It might be a generational thing but the old flag just looks wrong to me. I prefer our maple leaf flag. I love this song though. I wished this was sung more in ceremonial processions.
WRONG WRONG WRONG! THIS IS THE REAL LYRICS! In Days of yore, From Britain's shore Wolfe the dauntless hero came And planted firm Britannia's flag On Canada's fair domain. Here may it wave, Our boast, our pride And joined in love together, The thistle, shamrock, rose entwined, The Maple Leaf Forever.
"Oh Maple Leaf around the world, you speak as you rise high above - of courage, strength and quiet strength of the Canada that I love" ...."Bright flag revered on every ground, the Maple Leaf forever!" If that doesn't stir up a little pride in our frosty Canadian hearts, we're DEAD!
Considering Canada's diversity, why stop at one national anthem? Both are wonderful. "O Canada" fits formally, and "The Maple Leaf Forever" speaks of home to all Canadians. No, I'm not saying relegate it to hockey, but bring it forward. I love hockey, but I would LOVE to have a copy of Ann Murry singing this without the game in the background!
hmmm love how she mad the lyricis up the open in is Days of yor from Britains shore wolf the mighty hero came and planted firm Britannias flag on canadas fair domain, there may it stand our pride our joy the maple leaf for ever, god save our queen and heaven bless the maple leaf forever
No way. O Canada has no soul. I derive no feeling or inspiration from it. This is a better anthem by far. Especially the original version of the Maple Leaf Forever.
@SantaFe19484 "I don't hear anything is this version of the song that would the French."
I'm assuming the missing word here is "upset" or "offend". Well, that's just the point of the new lyrics. They don't gore anyone's ox. They just speak of how much we all love the country and why. For my money, we ought to make this new version the Flag Anthem, and retain O Canada as the National Anthem.
@Yoshuayovel "Look! It looks like the flag of Province of Ontario."
Or Manitoba, or Bermuda, or the old flag of Hong Kong. Yup, nothing like a unique, unmistakable flag that no one in the world could possibly mistake for anyone else's.
queen elizabeth has been a wonderful queen. but it's time to move on. no more monarchy! no sovereign who lives in another country! my heart is for canada - and none of it for the queen.
No. O Canada is the only one that's ever been official. The Maple Leaf Forever has, and always has had, the status of an unofficial national hymn; and, not surprisingly, has never enjoyed much affection in French Canada. In my opinion, promoting a "national anthem" that divides people instead of bringing them together is about as wise as using lard injections to ward off heart attacks.
@1988scottcarey "We need this anthem back and the Red Ensign!"
Well, first of all, these lyrics date from the 1990s. As far as the old lyrics and the Red Ensign go, neither was ever official. They belong to a different age, with different attitudes.
Never remove the Queen. Canada does not forget its responsibilities, nor its duties, to our Monarch. Though our minds may now be our own, our armies, our lives, and our hearts are at the Royal families disposal for all eternity.
In the last 5 years or so, every "special interest" group seems to have a beef with our current national anthem. It offends immigrants, muslims, women, martians, etc, etc. I suggest we start a petition to restore this beautiful song as our official national anthem. It only speaks of the beauty and strength of Canada. If anyone is offended by that, then get out, go home, and good riddance.
Does anyone know where Anne Murry's lovely voice can be found singing this rendition of "The Maple Leaf Forever"? I've hunted though everything amazon offers and elsewhere, and so far, nothing but this. Not that I don"t enjoy hockey (yes, even the ladies are cheering at the world's most violent sport), but is there anywhere I can find her singing this without a hockey game in the background? Love to anyone with an answer!
I don't know what you're talking about & who are they who had a Union Jack on their flag. I know we did, before the one we have now, which I think was beautiful. Love Anne Murray's version, she's wonderful as always.
@bobslay12 No, they did not. Polls conducted even in the 1950s demonstrated that even then the majority of Canadians wanted a flag that was clearly and uniquely representative of Canada, rather than one representative of, or prone to be confused with, some other country. The Red Ensign was one of the reasons Nasser was opposed to having Canadian troops placed as peacekeepers between Egypt on one hand, and the British (among others) on the other during the Suez Crisis: our neutrality was suspect.
@bobslay12 being an asshole is hardly righteous. colonial is a perjorative term that died, for canadians, in 1917. so not afraid, don't care for your attitude, your smugness or whatever tripe \you spout.and btw i'm a woman and probably older than you
@bobslay12 "Ohh yeah i forgot! Canada is the greatest country in the world and the only one that fought World war 1!"
Well, I didn't forget that Britain is the country that came whimpering to Canada for help in two world wars, and got it. Glad to help keep you free to spout your bullshit. Mind you, I have a feeling YOU'D be saying all the same things even if you'd wound up a part of the Greater Reich. You might have even preferred it.
@bobslay12 "At the time the majority of Canadians wanted to keep the Red Ensign."
Actually, no, they didn't. Hadn't for a long time. "In 1958, an extensive poll was taken of the attitudes that adult Canadians held toward the flag. Of those who expressed opinions, over 80% wanted a national flag entirely different from that of any other nation, and 60% wanted their flag to bear the maple leaf."
@bobslay12 I think what you meant to say, Bob, was, "Oops, I had my head up my ass and didn't know what I was talking about; silly me!" All the balloon juice in the world about how flags that aren't ours might happen to bear a resemblance to one another has nothing to do with the point that Canadians of the day wanted -- and got -- a distinct flag that's instantly recognized the world over... which is something you were WRONG about.
I want this exact version played at my funeral. I love Canada, hockey, Anne Murray, and since I'm a bit of a jackass, I think it would be funny..."Ladies and Gentlemen, last minute of play"
This song reminds me that I'm Canadian.......some of our families came from elsewhere.............but they came here to BE CANADIANS. God Bless the Maple Leaf Forever!
All the triumphalist schmaltz in the world about how great it is to be British stirs NOTHING in me as a Canadian. But when I hear Anne Murray sing "Within my heart, above my home, the maple leaf forever", THAT'S when my eyes tear up and I get a lump in my throat. That's about home. My home. And Canada IS our home. It's not just some 250-year, ongoing camping trip of a clan from somebody else's home, which is all the original lyrics make us out to be.
You can shout, whine, stamp your feat, and call up a mighty tempest, yet at the end of the day, it won't change the fact that Her Majesty is our Sovereign head of state and chief of the armed forces, nor will it change our status as a Commonwealth country, nor will it take Royal out of the Winnipeg Ballet, the Legion, the Artillery, Dragoons, or any of the other institutions.
Just as Ontario's motto says: "loyal she began, loyal she remains."
@Falwren And you can shout, whine, stamp your feat, and call up a mighty tempest, yet at the end of the day, it won't change the fact that nobody will ever sing these embarrassing lyrics in public ever again. Those days are over. Gone, like the Royal Mail, the Royal Canadian Navy, the Royal Canadian Air Force, etc. The lingering constitutional nicety of the Queen on the coins and the twenty are about the only regal realities left in Canada. We're effectively a republic already.
@broadband01 So far as I know, the Queen doesn't "own" any land in Canada. Public land is vested in the Canadian Crown (and not the British Crown, BTW), which is NOT the same thing as saying the person of the monarch. The literal crown itself is NOT the personal property of the Queen; it's the property of the state and is vested in current holder of the office.
@broadband01 The Crown is not the property of London, nor of the Rothchilds. It is the property of the British nation and is bestowed upon the officeholder appointed by the law as determined by Parliament; namely the Act of Settlement, 1701.
But let's assume for the purposes of discussion that you're right... then the question is all the plainer. What on Earth can a set of symbols, supposedly owned by the Rothchilds, possibly have to do with Canada, and why should we go on pretending they do?
@PatchesRips the crown is not the monarchy,it is a corporation of london bankers with rothchild being the major shareholder,he owns half the worlds wealth,including usa federal reserve bank,and wall street,,these bankersfamilies have operated in the city of london for centurys,,it is the worlds most powerful financial group,they own most of canadian,australian,new zealand land,they also finance indirectly most usa politicians,including obama and clinton,they are most powerful men on earth
@broadband01 "it is a corporation of london bankers"
No, the Crown is not a London corporation, neither in Britain, nor certainly not in Canada. It is the allegory used to connote the sovereignty of the nation, or the limited sovereignty of a sub-unit of that nation (such as a Canadian province or an Australian state). The actual crown is a symbol of that sovereignty, which is exercised by the person to whom it is entrusted; separately in each case, as in "the Crown in right of Ontario".
@PatchesRips the lord major of london has an involvement too,as does the queen and philip,not sure what there part is though,rothchild family has been a big friend of british royalty for centuries
@PatchesRips the monarchy is probably the only thing,that stands in the way of the rothchilds and co from selling of canada ,australia,new zealand,for all the queens faults,i do believe she cares about what happens to the commonwealth
@broadband01 If you actually believe my country is the property of a particular family -- be that family named Windsor or Rothschild -- then the most charitable thing I can say on the matter is that your head is rather too small for your hat.
...While I have your attention, could I perhaps interest you in the Brooklyn Bridge...?
@broadband01 "the canadian crown/british crown is the same thing"
It's not the same thing at all, in fact. They are separate sovereign offices, traditionally held by the same person. For instance, war is declared by auspices of the Crown. In the recent unpleasantness in Europe, the British Crown did so Sept. 3, 1939. The Canadian Crown did so Sept. 10. The Irish Crown never did so, and in fact, was extinguished altogether shortly after the war.
@bizbutton "Well, the Royal Canadian Navy and Royal Canadian Air Force are back"
Yeah. Several million dollars of your tax money and mine redoing their websites and letterheads, and stenciling new letters on the planes. Meanwhile our new fighters can't communicate from the Arctic. It's nice to see the Tories and people like you have their real priorities straight.
@Lewington1867 A marked improvement over the jingoistic, 19th Century chauvinism laced all through the original lyrics. This version is about MY Canada; it speaks to me and makes me want to dust the old song off and trot it out before the world; perhaps as the anthem of the flag.
I would die of embarrassment if the original lyrics were played on the world stage and purported to represent a vision of modern Canada. It's truly hideous and its disappearance from the national space well deserved.
Then please die already and reduce the surplus population. You're just embarassing yourself bandying about slanderous lies like that, but worst of all you're disgracing and dishonouring the memories of our veterans, many of whom, including my late grandfather and great grandfather adored the REAL song. They would not only be insulted by this emotionless garbage, but by your utter disregard for their sacrifices.
@Falwren "Then please die already and reduce the surplus population"
There's democracy, I see: "don't agree? You are "surplus"; so die." Yeah, you're taking ALL the right lessons from the Brits -- even the ironic ones.
"slanderous lies like that"
Do you even know what slander is? Or let me guess; it's just a really neat word you think adds ballast to bombast when you slosh it around and cheapen its actual use.
@Falwren Oh, you want to play pissing contests, do you? Okay. My father served in the Forces for 20 years. His father fought in Europe in WWII, and his in WWI. I have another great-grandfather who died in the Battle of the Somme. The first person in my family here was a Royal Marine. Are we done playing street cred yet? Good.
@Falwren (cont'd) It doesn't matter to me if your great-grandfather loved songs that reminded some of his countrymen they were second-rate by birth, or if he insisted on keeping blacks out of his theatres, Chinese out of his country, and women out of his voting booth. THAT was HIS Canada. THIS is MINE. I'm here now, and this is the Canada of people like me. It's become something different, and in my opinion, better.
Since when did I ever mention anything about racism or segregation? My grandfather, and all my ancestors were adamantly opposed to these wicked ideals and to say otherwise is malicious slander and fearmongering, as well a complete and utter lie on your part.
@Falwren "My grandfather, and all my ancestors were adamantly opposed to these wicked ideals"
Yeah, sure they were. Everyone opposed them. That's why most of them were part of public life in Canada into the 1960s, right -- because they were unpopular among people back then.
As Veterans' Day ends, I find only fit to post this song, sung by the wonderful Anne Murray.. if any of you great people of Canada read this, it's my pitifully small way of thanking you for two summers and two Xmases I had spent there.. This is my salute from across the border. I once stated that Ms Murray was not just singing a song.. I maintain that it was a woman, a Canadian woman saying to her country, 'I LOVE YOU'.. My heart is too full to continue; so, YOU GO! 'BIG MAPLE LEAF'..!!!
The original version was written in 1867 by Alexander Muir, and it actually acknowledges that we are a proud constitutional monarchy, while acknowledging things such as the war of 1812.
This version was written by a Romanian and accepted by an American Vietnam war draft dodger who didn't like the Britishness in the real version, and as you can see, this version is complete garbage and only talks about some airy fair freedom and land.
@Falwren Yeah, the original lyrics were written by and for Canadians in the mid-19th Century; the new ones by and for Canadians at the start of the 21st, where Romanian- and American-born Canadians can proclaim a love of Canada, rather than transplanted Englishmen baying about how great Britain is and how great it was overcoming a few thousand Habitants.
I'll take an ode to Canada's "airy freedom and land" over one about kissing England's ass every time.
Americans and Romanians are free and welcome to love Canada, but the ugly truth is that they will always be Romanians and Americans, not Canadians, and as such they should love Canada as it is and was founded, not as some new airy fairy place they want to make it. Your mention of Englishmen proves your ignorance, since there were equal to greater numbers of Scots, Ulster-Scots, Germans, Swiss and many others who settled in the area and were grateful for the rights they
@Falwren "Americans and Romanians are free and welcome to love Canada"
That's mighty white of you.
"they should love Canada as it is and was founded"
Ohh. So you love Canada as it was founded? You love a Canada where women, Natives, and Asians don't vote, where blacks can be denied amenities? You love a Canada that can't sign its own treaties or amend its own constitution or decide whether or not to go to war? You love a Canada where there IS no "Maple Leaf" on our flag?
If you even take a glancing look on the red ensign, either the 1890's version, the 1922 version, or the 1950's version, you will clearly see not just 1, but THREE MAPLE LEAFS. Yet again, being proud of my heritage does not mean I support segregation or racism, and your pointless attempts at derailing my clear point only speak for themselves.
@Falwren If you even take a glancing look at depictions of the Peace Tower in 1867 -- you know, at the foundation to which you hearken -- you won't see the Red Ensign atop it. Come to that, you won't see it there in photos from World War II, either.
Only Ann Murry can bring tears to my eyes, when she sings.. No, she's not just singing; it's just one more way of telling a great and glorious country of her love..And, I humbly add, from your neighbor across the lake, 'YOU GO! BIG MAPLE LEAF..!' A day never goes by when I don't feel the warmth and love that was given me when I was in that village of Salvage, in Newfoundland..
@zipper179 What I love about the new version is that it doesn't denigrate anyone else's country or say we're better than anyone else. All it says is 'this is a good place to live, I'm proud of it and glad I'm here, and hey folks -- the door is open'. That's Canada to me. :)
@PatchesRips And, that is the Canada that fills my heart, soul, my very being.. That is the Canada I'll love for always.. And, thank you, and all Canadians who might read this.. I hope it conveys the way I truly, and, deeply feel..
received as British subjects. I see you care little about the struggle our people made in the UEL expulsion and the War of 1812, not to mention WWI? The Confederation of Canada was founded under English Common Law, British customs, British traditions, and by people who were almost unanimously proud of their status as British subjects. I don't see why we can't be autonomous and individual, yet remain loyal to and proud of our past.
it doesn't throw away the past in doing so, but I realise bleeding heart liberal separatist sympathesizer ungrateful traitors like yourself wouldn't understand something like that.
If you hate Canada as it was founded and as it shall remain, then you are welcome to make use of another of our greatest freedoms:
@Falwren Sir, it is unfair to indicate that I have any kind of hatred, for amy nation and its people, let alone, Canada, and her peoples.. Why do I call her, 'Big Maple Leaf'..? If you've read any my posts, you will have seen my love and affection for your nation.. True, I am ignorant to much of her history.. But, when a people, especially those in little Salvage, Newfoundland, made me feel like one of their own, what can I feel, but joy..? I am not here to fight with the Canadian people. or you
@Falwren She's not from Canada, moron; can you read? She's talking about how grateful she is for the courtesy she was shown in Newfoundland -- during 9/11, if I remember correctly. "Freedom to leave"? What an ass you are. Freedom granted to you too. Take your sash back to Belfast and leave Canada for Canadians, not British wannabes.
Please find me a single line from the REAL version that denigrates anyone's country. And, no, Nouvelle France was not a country, and no, honouring Wolfe, just like honouring any hero, does not denigrate the losers, it just states a fact.
@Falwren "And, no, Nouvelle France was not a country"
Neither was Canada at the time. So it's a bit rich to insist Wolfe was sticking his pole into it in 1759.
"honouring Wolfe"
We're not talking about something abstract here. We're talking about the practical reality of crowing in a song about the military defeat and cultural subjugation of one part of our national identity by the other; literally harping on it. That is in no way an attitude conducive to national unity and co-existence.
"Cultural subjugation" what a pathetic con and a miserable lie. I would have laughed if it wasn't so cliched. Please look up the definition of subjugation in the Oxford English dictionary and then explain to me how this includes allowing people to maintain:
A) Their language
B)Their religion
C)Their civil law
and
D)Their culture
No mountain of persistant whining from you or anyone else will chnage the fact that France lost fair and square to Britain 250 years ago.
@Falwren Let me quote you a key part of the Durham Report:
"...the union of the two Provinces would not only give a clear English majority, but one which would be increased every year by the influence of English emigration; and I have little doubt that the French, when once placed, by the legitimate course of events and the working of natural causes, in a minority, would abandon their vain hopes of nationality."
This became policy. That francophones are still around is no thanks to Britain.
@Falwren A person would have to be completely ignorant of history, or proudly deaf to the sensibilities of others, to blithely imagine that what's being oh-so-elliptically referred to in the song is anything other than the subjugation of the Habitants by the British. I can assure you that French Canadians are entirely aware of what's being evoked in the song, even if you pretend otherwise: "Wolfe's just great! Who knows why? Who cares? 8)" It doesn't wash.
The very fact that you aren't even apparently from Canada completely nullifies any possible validity of your previous arguments. Oh, and just to be antagonistic:
Please read: "The Sash Canada Wore"
We stopped the Fenian raid in 1886 and we'll do it again.
Thank you for correcting my typo, as yes that should say 1866, a year prior to Confederation.
To answer your first question, yes in fact, I do, although I know that must erode your self esteem.
Even my latest ancestors left Ulster 6 years after confederation, and as such, it would appear to be that you're the one who should head back home to the potato fields.
@Falwren "Even my latest ancestors left Ulster 6 years after confederation"
And yet you're still not Canadian, you're just some transplanted Englishman blowing balloon juice about James Wolfe. You never LEFT the potato fields in the first place. You're still back there. Well, if you want to be British, there's the door, as you've reminded others. It's across the Atlantic, not here. So off you go.
you are a disgrace to your homeland,your countrymen fought ,side by side with us brits,we have always considered canadians brothers,you sir are a traitor to your nation
@broadband01 "you are a disgrace to your homeland"
My homeland isn't yours. I'd be a disgrace to MY homeland if I were to pretend it was.
"you sir are a traitor to your nation"
You, sir, are a grasping imperialist who can't get over the loss of the empire. And on the contrary; the traitors in my country are those who are loyal to yours, rather than mine.
"we have always considered canadians brothers"
That why you sold us those shitty subs a few years ago? Next time sell them to Argentina.
wtf,what a knob head,you are not a true canadian,i reckon your a yank in disguise,or a immigrant with a grudge against us brits for getting owned in empire days,also for your info,fucktard,we didnt lose the empire ,we gave it back,do you remember us fighting to save it? no
I'm hardly about to be told what a "true" Canadian is by some faded Col. Blimp. Go tell the blacks in Brixton they ain't Brits if you like, but don't you try to tell me what a Canadian is, limey.
"do you remember us fighting to save it?"
I remember us having to fight to save it for you, but you'd rather spend your days jizzing all over the Yankees for eventually showing up.
I find it hilarious that folks who are across the pond are lecturing you about who is a true Canadian and who is not....lol! I like the way you keep schooling these guys. Greetings from South of the border!
@suryavajra Hi there. Thanks for the kudos... oddly enough, I was watching a copy of HBO's John Adams when I read your comment. :D I'm for everybody's good heroes... but I think Canadian ought to be, and have to be, Canadians. Nothing's wrong with being close to the US and the UK, but we ought to do so as ourselves, not pale imitations.
Oh for sure...that's totally understandable! you ought to have your own identity and your own culture and not have to be anyone's imitation. It's silly for anyone to expect you guys to be that, which is why i find the whole attitide by the Brits to be a little paternalistic, like you guys are children of the mother country or something....
Damn straight...lol! So why are you lecturing Patches?? btw, it's my typing mistake. But it should read, you're hardly in a position to label a person from North America, a traitor to his country.
@suryavajra ah i see,lol,its comments i made weeks ago,and its the same guy ,good spot,actually i am in a position to comment.as half my family live in canada
@suryavajra ben franklins son[william] refused to participate in his fathers treason,he was arrested by the colonists and jailed,he is now buried in london[his home] a real british patriot,,he was the last royal gov of new jersey..the founding fathers were traitors
I don't think so....He could not sign a North American Union as it would go against the Constitution. We have a little thing called The Supremacy Clause, which means no North American Union and no Queen...lol!
GOD SAVE OUR QUEEN AND LONG LIVE THE TRUE NORTH STRONG AND FREE ;D
MenOnBirthControl 6 days ago
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Kevinsufacation 3 weeks ago
The last Red Ensign had red maple leaves and a modified harp. It was adopted in 1957.
ByzantineCalvinist 1 month ago
It might be a generational thing but the old flag just looks wrong to me. I prefer our maple leaf flag. I love this song though. I wished this was sung more in ceremonial processions.
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DofS1 1 month ago
@DofS1 its not wrong is revised and better
DTfromHELL 2 weeks ago
@DofS1 True enough, but I can't imagine that that version would have gone over too well in Quebec.
bluecollarcanuck 2 weeks ago
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1988scottcarey 1 month ago
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1988scottcarey 1 month ago
"Oh Maple Leaf around the world, you speak as you rise high above - of courage, strength and quiet strength of the Canada that I love" ...."Bright flag revered on every ground, the Maple Leaf forever!" If that doesn't stir up a little pride in our frosty Canadian hearts, we're DEAD!
filbertflange 1 month ago
Why is there a Ontario flag
cgfhjmk 2 months ago
@cgfhjmk It's the Red Ensign from 1921-1957
hockeyfreakofnature 2 months ago
@cgfhjmk It is the Red Ensign, which was our national flag until 1965, when it was replaced by the Maple Leaf Flag that is now known worldwide
filbertflange 1 month ago
Considering Canada's diversity, why stop at one national anthem? Both are wonderful. "O Canada" fits formally, and "The Maple Leaf Forever" speaks of home to all Canadians. No, I'm not saying relegate it to hockey, but bring it forward. I love hockey, but I would LOVE to have a copy of Ann Murry singing this without the game in the background!
iceprincessca100 2 months ago
So much better than Oh Canada.
The85Comedian 2 months ago
hmmm love how she mad the lyricis up the open in is Days of yor from Britains shore wolf the mighty hero came and planted firm Britannias flag on canadas fair domain, there may it stand our pride our joy the maple leaf for ever, god save our queen and heaven bless the maple leaf forever
303BoltAction 3 months ago
awesome track but i hate the way she says "maple"
DrVenganzaDulce 3 months ago
This song has more heart and soul than O Canada. It should be our anthem
ycats1812 3 months ago
Well, we should bring back "O Canada" and "God Save The Queen" at TV sign-off, then air "The Maple Leaf Forever!"
pookerville 3 months ago
Fuck you Anne Murry! God Bless Canada!
ImparatorEugenius 4 months ago
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wrobinson7 4 months ago
O Canada is better.
Swackers90 4 months ago
@Swackers90
No way. O Canada has no soul. I derive no feeling or inspiration from it. This is a better anthem by far. Especially the original version of the Maple Leaf Forever.
summer20105707 4 months ago
I don't hear anything is this version of the song that would the French. Why can't they keep as the national anthem?
SantaFe19484 5 months ago
@SantaFe19484 "I don't hear anything is this version of the song that would the French."
I'm assuming the missing word here is "upset" or "offend". Well, that's just the point of the new lyrics. They don't gore anyone's ox. They just speak of how much we all love the country and why. For my money, we ought to make this new version the Flag Anthem, and retain O Canada as the National Anthem.
PatchesRips 3 months ago
This song is much for inspiring and creative than O Canada! I guess this is somehow politically incorrect.
SantaFe19484 5 months ago
Look! It looks like the flag of Province of Ontario.
Yoshuayovel 5 months ago
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@Yoshuayovel "Look! It looks like the flag of Province of Ontario."
Or Manitoba, or Bermuda, or the old flag of Hong Kong. Yup, nothing like a unique, unmistakable flag that no one in the world could possibly mistake for anyone else's.
PatchesRips 3 months ago
Never heard this before, O Proud Canada, how I thank you
amckayceng 7 months ago
@amckayceng
Londres brûle-t-il?
(Ahahahahahah!!!)
yvonkcaouette 6 months ago
The Real Canadian Flag
burnley5960 7 months ago 2
@burnley5960 phhh maybe my toilet paper
darklifeproduction 4 months ago
With all due respect to Her Majesty, Our Queen, Anne Murray is Canada's Mom. She is, that freakin' great.
wrobinson7 8 months ago 2
in my heart where the spark still shines i feel a love for a land divine no other place feels the same to me, only here is where i am me
the others know of what i write,know that my words glisten bright
from this home i will sally forth
from my home the great white north
UpstairsMaid 8 months ago
queen elizabeth has been a wonderful queen. but it's time to move on. no more monarchy! no sovereign who lives in another country! my heart is for canada - and none of it for the queen.
UpstairsMaid 8 months ago
@colinh25 "was this the original canada anthem?"
No. O Canada is the only one that's ever been official. The Maple Leaf Forever has, and always has had, the status of an unofficial national hymn; and, not surprisingly, has never enjoyed much affection in French Canada. In my opinion, promoting a "national anthem" that divides people instead of bringing them together is about as wise as using lard injections to ward off heart attacks.
PatchesRips 8 months ago
We need this anthem back and the Red Ensign!
1988scottcarey 9 months ago
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@1988scottcarey "We need this anthem back and the Red Ensign!"
Well, first of all, these lyrics date from the 1990s. As far as the old lyrics and the Red Ensign go, neither was ever official. They belong to a different age, with different attitudes.
PatchesRips 7 months ago
Tears in my eyes!! It's probably no coincidence they use church organs in those hockey stadiums...
I hope I may bring my hopes and dreams to this beautiful country.
YukiNekoPrincess 10 months ago 2
Never remove the Queen. Canada does not forget its responsibilities, nor its duties, to our Monarch. Though our minds may now be our own, our armies, our lives, and our hearts are at the Royal families disposal for all eternity.
God Save the Queen, long may she rein.
ccAshercc 10 months ago 2
@ccAshercc
Says you.
All you Royal family nuthuggers do realize that Anne Murry's version got rid of all of the British aspects of the song, right?
RedCancer 8 months ago
@ccAshercc "God Save the Queen, long may she rein."
You probably meant "reign"... though "rein" is appropriate: it means using a harness on an animal to make it do what, and go where, you want.
PatchesRips 8 months ago
god save the queen
firefly361 10 months ago
Yo should get rid of the remainings of British impreialism and kick the Queen's ass out to really become free. I love Canada instead!
1963Luisito 10 months ago
quebec maple leaf forever,,lol,,,bring back the original words
broadband01 10 months ago
Fuck this liberal version. Fuck it
barricader6 10 months ago
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@barricader6 "Fuck this liberal version. Fuck it"
You mean it delights you so much you wanna make love to it? :)
PatchesRips 10 months ago
In the last 5 years or so, every "special interest" group seems to have a beef with our current national anthem. It offends immigrants, muslims, women, martians, etc, etc. I suggest we start a petition to restore this beautiful song as our official national anthem. It only speaks of the beauty and strength of Canada. If anyone is offended by that, then get out, go home, and good riddance.
wrobinson7 11 months ago
this version sucks! I hate that the Liberal Controlled CBC tried to change this song, the real version is the only version!
pteJames 1 year ago
Does anyone know where Anne Murry's lovely voice can be found singing this rendition of "The Maple Leaf Forever"? I've hunted though everything amazon offers and elsewhere, and so far, nothing but this. Not that I don"t enjoy hockey (yes, even the ladies are cheering at the world's most violent sport), but is there anywhere I can find her singing this without a hockey game in the background? Love to anyone with an answer!
iceprincessca100 1 year ago
I don't know what you're talking about & who are they who had a Union Jack on their flag. I know we did, before the one we have now, which I think was beautiful. Love Anne Murray's version, she's wonderful as always.
mariltn4 1 year ago
This has to be Canadas National flag once more!
At the time the majority of Canadians wanted to keep the Red Ensign.
bobslay12 1 year ago 7
@bobslay12 ...No.
GreyErmine 1 year ago
@bobslay12 No, they did not. Polls conducted even in the 1950s demonstrated that even then the majority of Canadians wanted a flag that was clearly and uniquely representative of Canada, rather than one representative of, or prone to be confused with, some other country. The Red Ensign was one of the reasons Nasser was opposed to having Canadian troops placed as peacekeepers between Egypt on one hand, and the British (among others) on the other during the Suez Crisis: our neutrality was suspect.
PatchesRips 10 months ago
@bobslay12 I have no interest in the ensign. I have no interest in being a 'colonial' or having a flag that makes us look like colonials.
UpstairsMaid 8 months ago
@UpstairsMaid
you are a colonial and dont need a Union flag in the corner to show it as its written on your forehead.
bobslay12 8 months ago
@bobslay12 no. it isn't. I was born free and canadian. you are still ruled by racism and imperialism. so in otherwords - piss off.
UpstairsMaid 8 months ago
@UpstairsMaid
awww whats the matter son? you afraid of the righteous?
bobslay12 8 months ago
@bobslay12 being an asshole is hardly righteous. colonial is a perjorative term that died, for canadians, in 1917. so not afraid, don't care for your attitude, your smugness or whatever tripe \you spout.and btw i'm a woman and probably older than you
UpstairsMaid 8 months ago
@UpstairsMaid
Ohh yeah i forgot! Canada is the greatest country in the world and the only one that fought World war 1!
bobslay12 8 months ago
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@bobslay12 "Ohh yeah i forgot! Canada is the greatest country in the world and the only one that fought World war 1!"
Well, I didn't forget that Britain is the country that came whimpering to Canada for help in two world wars, and got it. Glad to help keep you free to spout your bullshit. Mind you, I have a feeling YOU'D be saying all the same things even if you'd wound up a part of the Greater Reich. You might have even preferred it.
PatchesRips 7 months ago
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@bobslay12 "At the time the majority of Canadians wanted to keep the Red Ensign."
Actually, no, they didn't. Hadn't for a long time. "In 1958, an extensive poll was taken of the attitudes that adult Canadians held toward the flag. Of those who expressed opinions, over 80% wanted a national flag entirely different from that of any other nation, and 60% wanted their flag to bear the maple leaf."
PatchesRips 7 months ago
@bobslay12 Matter of fact, I looked it up. Gallup poll #270, August, 1958:
"Do you approve or disapprove of Canada having a National Flag, entirely different from that of any other country?"
APPROVE 85.3%
DISAPPROVE 14.7%
...so much for "the majority of Canadians" wanting to KEEP the Red Ensign! Then or now.
PatchesRips 7 months ago
@PatchesRips
The French and Dutch flag look the same, The German and Belgian flag look the same, The Irish and Ivory Coast flags looks the same ETC
so i guess those results were rigged by French seperatists or Canadians are very deranged people?
bobslay12 7 months ago
@bobslay12 I think what you meant to say, Bob, was, "Oops, I had my head up my ass and didn't know what I was talking about; silly me!" All the balloon juice in the world about how flags that aren't ours might happen to bear a resemblance to one another has nothing to do with the point that Canadians of the day wanted -- and got -- a distinct flag that's instantly recognized the world over... which is something you were WRONG about.
PatchesRips 7 months ago
This is my favorite version of Maple Leaf For Ever, an anthem most appropriate for modern Canada, and one to which all Canadians can relate.
Bosirant 1 year ago
That is just a terrible thing to say, You should be grateful to live in such a free country. Shame , shame, shame.
mariltn4 1 year ago
@mariltn4
are you saying cuz they had a union jack on there flag means their country wasnt free?
bobslay12 1 year ago
The brits and english need to fuck offfff
niggawaaat 1 year ago
@niggawaaat
you canadian fucks wont leave us alone!
you keep crying to us for some of our islands in the west indies.
bobslay12 1 year ago
@niggawaaat
If it wasn't for the Brits, Canada as it is today wouldn't exist.
I think it is you that needs to fornicate elsewhere!
sxi2010 11 months ago
I want this exact version played at my funeral. I love Canada, hockey, Anne Murray, and since I'm a bit of a jackass, I think it would be funny..."Ladies and Gentlemen, last minute of play"
wrobinson7 1 year ago
This song reminds me that I'm Canadian.......some of our families came from elsewhere.............but they came here to BE CANADIANS. God Bless the Maple Leaf Forever!
TommyD1979 1 year ago
I love O Canada, but the Maple Leaf forever is is very nice too!!
Kael7777 1 year ago
Long live a united indepent Canada.
Long live the Queen.
incandemon 1 year ago
All the triumphalist schmaltz in the world about how great it is to be British stirs NOTHING in me as a Canadian. But when I hear Anne Murray sing "Within my heart, above my home, the maple leaf forever", THAT'S when my eyes tear up and I get a lump in my throat. That's about home. My home. And Canada IS our home. It's not just some 250-year, ongoing camping trip of a clan from somebody else's home, which is all the original lyrics make us out to be.
PatchesRips 1 year ago
@PatchesRips
You can shout, whine, stamp your feat, and call up a mighty tempest, yet at the end of the day, it won't change the fact that Her Majesty is our Sovereign head of state and chief of the armed forces, nor will it change our status as a Commonwealth country, nor will it take Royal out of the Winnipeg Ballet, the Legion, the Artillery, Dragoons, or any of the other institutions.
Just as Ontario's motto says: "loyal she began, loyal she remains."
No surrender
GSTQ and FGAU
Falwren 1 year ago 12
@Falwren And you can shout, whine, stamp your feat, and call up a mighty tempest, yet at the end of the day, it won't change the fact that nobody will ever sing these embarrassing lyrics in public ever again. Those days are over. Gone, like the Royal Mail, the Royal Canadian Navy, the Royal Canadian Air Force, etc. The lingering constitutional nicety of the Queen on the coins and the twenty are about the only regal realities left in Canada. We're effectively a republic already.
PatchesRips 1 year ago
@PatchesRips thats what you think,,,,,the queen owns more than half the land in canada,rule britannia :O)
broadband01 10 months ago
@broadband01 So far as I know, the Queen doesn't "own" any land in Canada. Public land is vested in the Canadian Crown (and not the British Crown, BTW), which is NOT the same thing as saying the person of the monarch. The literal crown itself is NOT the personal property of the Queen; it's the property of the state and is vested in current holder of the office.
PatchesRips 10 months ago
@PatchesRips the crown is part of a corporation of the londion borough,owned primarily by sir rothchild
broadband01 10 months ago
@broadband01
Oh not this urban rumor....
suryavajra 10 months ago
@suryavajra :O)
broadband01 10 months ago
@broadband01 The Crown is not the property of London, nor of the Rothchilds. It is the property of the British nation and is bestowed upon the officeholder appointed by the law as determined by Parliament; namely the Act of Settlement, 1701.
But let's assume for the purposes of discussion that you're right... then the question is all the plainer. What on Earth can a set of symbols, supposedly owned by the Rothchilds, possibly have to do with Canada, and why should we go on pretending they do?
PatchesRips 10 months ago
@PatchesRips the crown is not the monarchy,it is a corporation of london bankers with rothchild being the major shareholder,he owns half the worlds wealth,including usa federal reserve bank,and wall street,,these bankersfamilies have operated in the city of london for centurys,,it is the worlds most powerful financial group,they own most of canadian,australian,new zealand land,they also finance indirectly most usa politicians,including obama and clinton,they are most powerful men on earth
broadband01 10 months ago
@broadband01 "it is a corporation of london bankers"
No, the Crown is not a London corporation, neither in Britain, nor certainly not in Canada. It is the allegory used to connote the sovereignty of the nation, or the limited sovereignty of a sub-unit of that nation (such as a Canadian province or an Australian state). The actual crown is a symbol of that sovereignty, which is exercised by the person to whom it is entrusted; separately in each case, as in "the Crown in right of Ontario".
PatchesRips 10 months ago
@PatchesRips the lord major of london has an involvement too,as does the queen and philip,not sure what there part is though,rothchild family has been a big friend of british royalty for centuries
broadband01 10 months ago
@broadband01 "the lord major of london has an involvement too"
Not in Canada. It's highly doubtful a municipal office has any involvement with the symbol of national sovereignty even in the UK.
PatchesRips 10 months ago
@PatchesRips the monarchy is probably the only thing,that stands in the way of the rothchilds and co from selling of canada ,australia,new zealand,for all the queens faults,i do believe she cares about what happens to the commonwealth
broadband01 10 months ago
@broadband01 If you actually believe my country is the property of a particular family -- be that family named Windsor or Rothschild -- then the most charitable thing I can say on the matter is that your head is rather too small for your hat.
...While I have your attention, could I perhaps interest you in the Brooklyn Bridge...?
PatchesRips 10 months ago
@PatchesRips the canadian crown/british crown is the same thing
broadband01 10 months ago
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@broadband01 "the canadian crown/british crown is the same thing"
It's not the same thing at all, in fact. They are separate sovereign offices, traditionally held by the same person. For instance, war is declared by auspices of the Crown. In the recent unpleasantness in Europe, the British Crown did so Sept. 3, 1939. The Canadian Crown did so Sept. 10. The Irish Crown never did so, and in fact, was extinguished altogether shortly after the war.
PatchesRips 10 months ago
@broadband01sir rothchild is a big friend of the queen by the way?also the queen is the queen of canada,a seperate title to queen of england?
broadband01 10 months ago
@PatchesRips Well, the Royal Canadian Navy and Royal Canadian Air Force are back!!!! God save our Queen and heaven bless the Maple Leaf Forever!
bizbutton 3 months ago
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@bizbutton "Well, the Royal Canadian Navy and Royal Canadian Air Force are back"
Yeah. Several million dollars of your tax money and mine redoing their websites and letterheads, and stenciling new letters on the planes. Meanwhile our new fighters can't communicate from the Arctic. It's nice to see the Tories and people like you have their real priorities straight.
PatchesRips 3 months ago
@PatchesRips
This is the best comment gracing this video. Take notice people.
RedCancer 8 months ago
Not the original words to the Maple Leaf Forever!
mikeycanuck 1 year ago
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@mikeycanuck "Not the original words to the Maple Leaf Forever!"
Thank God.
PatchesRips 1 year ago
Very much inferior to the real version.
Lewington1867 1 year ago
@Lewington1867 A marked improvement over the jingoistic, 19th Century chauvinism laced all through the original lyrics. This version is about MY Canada; it speaks to me and makes me want to dust the old song off and trot it out before the world; perhaps as the anthem of the flag.
I would die of embarrassment if the original lyrics were played on the world stage and purported to represent a vision of modern Canada. It's truly hideous and its disappearance from the national space well deserved.
PatchesRips 1 year ago
@PatchesRips
Then please die already and reduce the surplus population. You're just embarassing yourself bandying about slanderous lies like that, but worst of all you're disgracing and dishonouring the memories of our veterans, many of whom, including my late grandfather and great grandfather adored the REAL song. They would not only be insulted by this emotionless garbage, but by your utter disregard for their sacrifices.
Falwren 1 year ago
@Falwren "Then please die already and reduce the surplus population"
There's democracy, I see: "don't agree? You are "surplus"; so die." Yeah, you're taking ALL the right lessons from the Brits -- even the ironic ones.
"slanderous lies like that"
Do you even know what slander is? Or let me guess; it's just a really neat word you think adds ballast to bombast when you slosh it around and cheapen its actual use.
PatchesRips 1 year ago
@Falwren Oh, you want to play pissing contests, do you? Okay. My father served in the Forces for 20 years. His father fought in Europe in WWII, and his in WWI. I have another great-grandfather who died in the Battle of the Somme. The first person in my family here was a Royal Marine. Are we done playing street cred yet? Good.
(cont'd)
PatchesRips 1 year ago
@Falwren (cont'd) It doesn't matter to me if your great-grandfather loved songs that reminded some of his countrymen they were second-rate by birth, or if he insisted on keeping blacks out of his theatres, Chinese out of his country, and women out of his voting booth. THAT was HIS Canada. THIS is MINE. I'm here now, and this is the Canada of people like me. It's become something different, and in my opinion, better.
Just like the lyrics to the song.
PatchesRips 1 year ago
@PatchesRips
Since when did I ever mention anything about racism or segregation? My grandfather, and all my ancestors were adamantly opposed to these wicked ideals and to say otherwise is malicious slander and fearmongering, as well a complete and utter lie on your part.
Falwren 1 year ago
@Falwren "My grandfather, and all my ancestors were adamantly opposed to these wicked ideals"
Yeah, sure they were. Everyone opposed them. That's why most of them were part of public life in Canada into the 1960s, right -- because they were unpopular among people back then.
PatchesRips 1 year ago
As Veterans' Day ends, I find only fit to post this song, sung by the wonderful Anne Murray.. if any of you great people of Canada read this, it's my pitifully small way of thanking you for two summers and two Xmases I had spent there.. This is my salute from across the border. I once stated that Ms Murray was not just singing a song.. I maintain that it was a woman, a Canadian woman saying to her country, 'I LOVE YOU'.. My heart is too full to continue; so, YOU GO! 'BIG MAPLE LEAF'..!!!
zipper179 1 year ago
Why is this version different from others and which is more excepted?
tjswimlax 1 year ago
@tjswimlax
The original version was written in 1867 by Alexander Muir, and it actually acknowledges that we are a proud constitutional monarchy, while acknowledging things such as the war of 1812.
This version was written by a Romanian and accepted by an American Vietnam war draft dodger who didn't like the Britishness in the real version, and as you can see, this version is complete garbage and only talks about some airy fair freedom and land.
Falwren 1 year ago
@Falwren Yeah, the original lyrics were written by and for Canadians in the mid-19th Century; the new ones by and for Canadians at the start of the 21st, where Romanian- and American-born Canadians can proclaim a love of Canada, rather than transplanted Englishmen baying about how great Britain is and how great it was overcoming a few thousand Habitants.
I'll take an ode to Canada's "airy freedom and land" over one about kissing England's ass every time.
PatchesRips 1 year ago
@PatchesRips
Americans and Romanians are free and welcome to love Canada, but the ugly truth is that they will always be Romanians and Americans, not Canadians, and as such they should love Canada as it is and was founded, not as some new airy fairy place they want to make it. Your mention of Englishmen proves your ignorance, since there were equal to greater numbers of Scots, Ulster-Scots, Germans, Swiss and many others who settled in the area and were grateful for the rights they
Falwren 1 year ago
@Falwren "Americans and Romanians are free and welcome to love Canada"
That's mighty white of you.
"they should love Canada as it is and was founded"
Ohh. So you love Canada as it was founded? You love a Canada where women, Natives, and Asians don't vote, where blacks can be denied amenities? You love a Canada that can't sign its own treaties or amend its own constitution or decide whether or not to go to war? You love a Canada where there IS no "Maple Leaf" on our flag?
Really?
PatchesRips 1 year ago
@PatchesRips
If you even take a glancing look on the red ensign, either the 1890's version, the 1922 version, or the 1950's version, you will clearly see not just 1, but THREE MAPLE LEAFS. Yet again, being proud of my heritage does not mean I support segregation or racism, and your pointless attempts at derailing my clear point only speak for themselves.
Falwren 1 year ago
@Falwren If you even take a glancing look at depictions of the Peace Tower in 1867 -- you know, at the foundation to which you hearken -- you won't see the Red Ensign atop it. Come to that, you won't see it there in photos from World War II, either.
PatchesRips 1 year ago
This version Sucks! The original is better
pteJames 1 year ago
Only Ann Murry can bring tears to my eyes, when she sings.. No, she's not just singing; it's just one more way of telling a great and glorious country of her love..And, I humbly add, from your neighbor across the lake, 'YOU GO! BIG MAPLE LEAF..!' A day never goes by when I don't feel the warmth and love that was given me when I was in that village of Salvage, in Newfoundland..
zipper179 1 year ago
@zipper179 What I love about the new version is that it doesn't denigrate anyone else's country or say we're better than anyone else. All it says is 'this is a good place to live, I'm proud of it and glad I'm here, and hey folks -- the door is open'. That's Canada to me. :)
PatchesRips 1 year ago
@PatchesRips And, that is the Canada that fills my heart, soul, my very being.. That is the Canada I'll love for always.. And, thank you, and all Canadians who might read this.. I hope it conveys the way I truly, and, deeply feel..
zipper179 1 year ago
@zipper179
received as British subjects. I see you care little about the struggle our people made in the UEL expulsion and the War of 1812, not to mention WWI? The Confederation of Canada was founded under English Common Law, British customs, British traditions, and by people who were almost unanimously proud of their status as British subjects. I don't see why we can't be autonomous and individual, yet remain loyal to and proud of our past.
MY Canada also embraces the future, but
Falwren 1 year ago
@Falwren "Canada was founded... by people who were almost unanimously proud of their status as British subjects"
Yes: WERE. This isn't 1867 anymore. You may have missed that. Buy a new calendar.
PatchesRips 1 year ago
@zipper179
it doesn't throw away the past in doing so, but I realise bleeding heart liberal separatist sympathesizer ungrateful traitors like yourself wouldn't understand something like that.
If you hate Canada as it was founded and as it shall remain, then you are welcome to make use of another of our greatest freedoms:
The freedom to leave.
Falwren 1 year ago
@Falwren Sir, it is unfair to indicate that I have any kind of hatred, for amy nation and its people, let alone, Canada, and her peoples.. Why do I call her, 'Big Maple Leaf'..? If you've read any my posts, you will have seen my love and affection for your nation.. True, I am ignorant to much of her history.. But, when a people, especially those in little Salvage, Newfoundland, made me feel like one of their own, what can I feel, but joy..? I am not here to fight with the Canadian people. or you
zipper179 1 year ago
@Falwren She's not from Canada, moron; can you read? She's talking about how grateful she is for the courtesy she was shown in Newfoundland -- during 9/11, if I remember correctly. "Freedom to leave"? What an ass you are. Freedom granted to you too. Take your sash back to Belfast and leave Canada for Canadians, not British wannabes.
PatchesRips 1 year ago
@PatchesRips
That was made in a response to you, not her idiot. Please learn to read more carefully.
Falwren 1 year ago
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@Falwren "That was made in a response to you, not her idiot. Please learn to read more carefully."
Well, my handle's not "zipper179", and that's who you were replying to, goofus. So I think it's you who needs to learn to read more carefully.
PatchesRips 1 year ago
@PatchesRips
Falwren 1 year ago
@PatchesRips
Please find me a single line from the REAL version that denigrates anyone's country. And, no, Nouvelle France was not a country, and no, honouring Wolfe, just like honouring any hero, does not denigrate the losers, it just states a fact.
Falwren 1 year ago
@Falwren "And, no, Nouvelle France was not a country"
Neither was Canada at the time. So it's a bit rich to insist Wolfe was sticking his pole into it in 1759.
"honouring Wolfe"
We're not talking about something abstract here. We're talking about the practical reality of crowing in a song about the military defeat and cultural subjugation of one part of our national identity by the other; literally harping on it. That is in no way an attitude conducive to national unity and co-existence.
PatchesRips 1 year ago
@PatchesRips
"Cultural subjugation" what a pathetic con and a miserable lie. I would have laughed if it wasn't so cliched. Please look up the definition of subjugation in the Oxford English dictionary and then explain to me how this includes allowing people to maintain:
A) Their language
B)Their religion
C)Their civil law
and
D)Their culture
No mountain of persistant whining from you or anyone else will chnage the fact that France lost fair and square to Britain 250 years ago.
Falwren 1 year ago
@Falwren Let me quote you a key part of the Durham Report:
"...the union of the two Provinces would not only give a clear English majority, but one which would be increased every year by the influence of English emigration; and I have little doubt that the French, when once placed, by the legitimate course of events and the working of natural causes, in a minority, would abandon their vain hopes of nationality."
This became policy. That francophones are still around is no thanks to Britain.
PatchesRips 1 year ago
@Falwren A person would have to be completely ignorant of history, or proudly deaf to the sensibilities of others, to blithely imagine that what's being oh-so-elliptically referred to in the song is anything other than the subjugation of the Habitants by the British. I can assure you that French Canadians are entirely aware of what's being evoked in the song, even if you pretend otherwise: "Wolfe's just great! Who knows why? Who cares? 8)" It doesn't wash.
PatchesRips 1 year ago
@PatchesRips
The very fact that you aren't even apparently from Canada completely nullifies any possible validity of your previous arguments. Oh, and just to be antagonistic:
Please read: "The Sash Canada Wore"
We stopped the Fenian raid in 1886 and we'll do it again.
No surrender
Falwren 1 year ago
@Falwren "The very fact that you aren't even apparently from Canada"
Apparently. So you go and look up people's locations to see if they have a right to an opinion, do you?
"We stopped the Fenian raid in 1886"
1866. At least you've heard of the Fenian raids (well, ONE of them, at least, apparently); I guess that counts for something.
PatchesRips 1 year ago
@PatchesRips
Thank you for correcting my typo, as yes that should say 1866, a year prior to Confederation.
To answer your first question, yes in fact, I do, although I know that must erode your self esteem.
Even my latest ancestors left Ulster 6 years after confederation, and as such, it would appear to be that you're the one who should head back home to the potato fields.
Falwren 1 year ago
@Falwren "Even my latest ancestors left Ulster 6 years after confederation"
And yet you're still not Canadian, you're just some transplanted Englishman blowing balloon juice about James Wolfe. You never LEFT the potato fields in the first place. You're still back there. Well, if you want to be British, there's the door, as you've reminded others. It's across the Atlantic, not here. So off you go.
PatchesRips 1 year ago
@PatchesRips
you are a disgrace to your homeland,your countrymen fought ,side by side with us brits,we have always considered canadians brothers,you sir are a traitor to your nation
broadband01 1 year ago
@broadband01 "you are a disgrace to your homeland"
My homeland isn't yours. I'd be a disgrace to MY homeland if I were to pretend it was.
"you sir are a traitor to your nation"
You, sir, are a grasping imperialist who can't get over the loss of the empire. And on the contrary; the traitors in my country are those who are loyal to yours, rather than mine.
"we have always considered canadians brothers"
That why you sold us those shitty subs a few years ago? Next time sell them to Argentina.
PatchesRips 1 year ago
@PatchesRips
wtf,what a knob head,you are not a true canadian,i reckon your a yank in disguise,or a immigrant with a grudge against us brits for getting owned in empire days,also for your info,fucktard,we didnt lose the empire ,we gave it back,do you remember us fighting to save it? no
broadband01 1 year ago
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@broadband01 "you are not a true canadian"
I'm hardly about to be told what a "true" Canadian is by some faded Col. Blimp. Go tell the blacks in Brixton they ain't Brits if you like, but don't you try to tell me what a Canadian is, limey.
"do you remember us fighting to save it?"
I remember us having to fight to save it for you, but you'd rather spend your days jizzing all over the Yankees for eventually showing up.
PatchesRips 1 year ago
@PatchesRips
I find it hilarious that folks who are across the pond are lecturing you about who is a true Canadian and who is not....lol! I like the way you keep schooling these guys. Greetings from South of the border!
suryavajra 10 months ago
@suryavajra Hi there. Thanks for the kudos... oddly enough, I was watching a copy of HBO's John Adams when I read your comment. :D I'm for everybody's good heroes... but I think Canadian ought to be, and have to be, Canadians. Nothing's wrong with being close to the US and the UK, but we ought to do so as ourselves, not pale imitations.
PatchesRips 10 months ago
@PatchesRips
Oh for sure...that's totally understandable! you ought to have your own identity and your own culture and not have to be anyone's imitation. It's silly for anyone to expect you guys to be that, which is why i find the whole attitide by the Brits to be a little paternalistic, like you guys are children of the mother country or something....
suryavajra 10 months ago
@broadband01 He's just a goddamn liberal.
barricader6 10 months ago
@PatchesRips LOL! I totally agree! Canada > Britain
LivesForJihad 1 year ago
@broadband01
dude, you're hardly in a position a person from North America, a traitor to his country.
suryavajra 10 months ago
@suryavajra i am not from north america
broadband01 10 months ago
@broadband01
Damn straight...lol! So why are you lecturing Patches?? btw, it's my typing mistake. But it should read, you're hardly in a position to label a person from North America, a traitor to his country.
suryavajra 10 months ago
@suryavajra i am not lecturing anyone,,,i never said he was a traitor to his own country?wtf are you on about yank?
broadband01 10 months ago
@broadband01
I quote,
''you sir are a traitor to your nation''
suryavajra 10 months ago
@suryavajra why am i ?
broadband01 10 months ago
@broadband01
why are you, what?
suryavajra 10 months ago
@suryavajra ah i see,lol,its comments i made weeks ago,and its the same guy ,good spot,actually i am in a position to comment.as half my family live in canada
broadband01 10 months ago
@broadband01
Nope....I know the US was made through patriotism though.... ;)
suryavajra 10 months ago
@suryavajra ben franklins son[william] refused to participate in his fathers treason,he was arrested by the colonists and jailed,he is now buried in london[his home] a real british patriot,,he was the last royal gov of new jersey..the founding fathers were traitors
broadband01 10 months ago
@broadband01
Well Ben Franklin's son was a collaborator who was sent packing. Founding Fathers were patriots. Republicanism Forever.
suryavajra 10 months ago
@suryavajra when william was being escorted out of his residence by the colonists,he stopped,and kissed the union jack
broadband01 10 months ago
@broadband01
Well William was sent to be with his beloved Britain...lol!
suryavajra 10 months ago
@suryavajra type in [william franklin] on youtube,there is a re enactment of it
broadband01 10 months ago
@broadband01
I saw it...Well they were considerate to him before they escorted him out...lol!
suryavajra 10 months ago
@suryavajra they were all considerate fellows then
broadband01 10 months ago
@broadband01
That they were!
suryavajra 10 months ago
@suryavajra did you know,that bush had secretly signed a north american union,looks like your getting the queen back after all ,,,,lol :O)
broadband01 10 months ago
@broadband01
I don't think so....He could not sign a North American Union as it would go against the Constitution. We have a little thing called The Supremacy Clause, which means no North American Union and no Queen...lol!
suryavajra 10 months ago
@suryavajra did you know,that usa was made through treason?
broadband01 10 months ago
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