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  • just bought a ctr,fast n well built but numb n boring to drive after 172 cup

  • TheVtieg6, this is the video, the focus rs is the fastest and the most radical of all, and i think is the same circuit, and the same driver...

    Top Gear - Civic Type R vs Focus RS vs Leon Cupra R ; find it on youtube , in cant paste the direct link, sorry

  • French crap, surprised the Clio made it round without electrics going!

  • in another video, the focus rs was faster, i dont understand...

  • @nsin

    What vid was that?

  • even if honda was slowest, i would prefer it, vtec forever... :P

  • Wtf is with driver in Clio, every corner bad angle!

  • more modding potential in the ctr too

  • clio...all day long

  • Hot hatch. now gimme dat honda!

  • Jap Crap! its all about the clio all day!

  • iv just sold a 172 cup n got a ctr,the clio more fun and adjustable but honda quicker,more stable n nicer as a everyday car

  • Clio 172 Cup going for it against a Civic type R & Impreza WRX @ Knockhill trackday 17/04/11

    Patse this into youtube and see how a 172 cup fares against a type R

  • @kceeal

    Around a track its done to the driver

  • @TheVtieg6

    You hit the nail on the head there. Both great cars

  • @kceeal

    Lol cant remember what i wrote but thanks anyway

  • HONDA POWER!

    3 wheel motion :)

  • honda is 1000000x betterrr

  • C) Hot Shot

  • I love type R's just soooo gutted I didnt see this on TV I would of participated in the competition 150 times over lol

  • end of the day...insurance!

  • I dreamt about owning a 182 since I was 15. Now Im 19 with a Type R... Wish I brought the 182... :/

  • @TREMAINE182 What's the point? Your insurance premium must be more than the cars value.

  • @liamcollister Nope, I paid £9,000 for the car and £2300 for insurance, my insurance runs out soon, the quotes I've had so far are £1900 roughly. I looked at getting a phase 2 Clio V6 on a £14,500 budget including P/Xing the CTR but in the UK you can't get insured on anything with more that 4 cylinders until you are 21.

  • @TREMAINE182 I know rich kids who are driving Range Rover sports (Supercharged V8) that are like 18, the Isle of Man uses insurance companies from the UK too =S

  • Having owned both cars I thought the clio had a better interior. Really comfy and easy to drive on b roads. Type R has an epic engine but looks like a mini people carrier. Now own an FN2 and its rubbish. Trading it in for a clio cup 200. I drive regular on tracks and have raced karts so please dont think im a 10 year old american kid posting shit in his basement. I prefer the renault because it suits my driving style. But the civic is the better car for reliability. Cant win everything.

  • @spoonracing2011 Are the clios reliabilty as bad as people say? im looking at some 5-6 year old clio 182s and wondering if they will give me a headache?

  • @dilawer321 Check its had the aux belt changed and got full service history. When test driving it stick it in third and lift your foot up and down on the clutch. Dont worry if you hear a loud bang. Its just the exhaust trying to come through the floor can be easily fixed with new mounts and bushes. Check all electrics work. Check xenons work auto lights and tap your finger on the sensor on front window to make sure auto wipers work. Have a look on the clio forum for known faults.

  • @spoonracing2011 Thanks bro il have a look on the forum

  • if u want a high revving hardcore track car pick the ctr,if u want a car with more poise,feel n supple chassis for challenging roads pick the clio

  • @HENRYHOBBS1

    Depends which Clio. The new RS Clio completely destroys Civic Type R`s on the track.

  • @Airox2009 the 182/172 cup better road cars.the new 200 clio better track and road car compared to the civic

  • Funny everyone else says the civic has duff steering tiff u fool.. Unlike the clio

  • 16,000 pound honda?????????

  • In a straight line there isn't much between these cars at all.. my mates 172 is only a bit slower than my remapped type R!

  • @TheAftermath1987 Some sense at last! You're right, very little between them. My 172 Cup almost identical pace with the Type R. The Cup was way more fun though! Both cars are very good.

  • d) Cum Shot

  • This would come down to the driver of the car on any given day. I own a 182 myself and I prefer the styling of it, I put the civic in a larger category (golfs and such) as it looks so much bigger compared to the clio. I'd say to all the people on here cussing the clio - drive one if indeed you are old enough for a license ;)

  • The Honda CTR just looks better and the engine sounds so much better than the Clio. Not to mention the engine can be revved so much higher than the Clio!!!

  • Type R is the best

  • civic = expansive !!!! for the difference i put a ITB on my clio and smoke you jap !!

  • @diegojwindowslive

    Well if your talking about brand new prices modding your cliop will void a warranty

  • driven both cars, the clio gets my vote for driver involvement

  • Atleast clio Rs's arn't common as much! LOLOLOLOL

  • stock civic beat the porsche.. thumbs up

  • Old Civic > New Civic

    Old Clio < New Clio

  • @ftpaddict

    New Clio > Old Civic > New Civic

  • dude....that car might have an awesome gear box and steering....it would improve 10 fold with a LOWER CENTER OF GRAVITY...i would GRANTEE from A DISTANCE. IT WOULD LOOK LIKE A VANN..

  • VTECH vs VA VA VOOM with VVTI lol. French shite.

  • Both are superb cars. I have a clio 182 because I dislike the chav chariot image of the civic and the wierd gearstick but that's just personal taste. The civic is also notably more pricy for a given age and mileage.

  • seriously? comparing a Honda with a Renault?

    A VTEC Type-R vs a french car? -.-"

  • @RicMpt If there was a big difference in time between the two laps, you might have a point. But there wasn't, so you dont.

  • @TuneMaestro

    I assume you never drove a Type-R in your life.

    I'm not comparing times. I'm talking about comparing a DOHC VTEC engine with a Renault engine.

    The Type-R could have lost the race... but don't compare it with a french piece of shit.

  • Hondas have fantastic build quality, clios dont. ive a clio i know, the moral....... you get what you pay for!

  • What people seem to be forgetting is the clio 182 cup was £13000 the type r was £16500+, so pretty much the same performance for £3500 grand less if you bought a new clio cup at the time, but as im now finding out with my clio at 40 000 miles the exhaust, rear shocks, discs front and rear, wheel bearings are knackered, the moral........ u get what you pay for!

  • king of hot hatches-- civic type r!

  • get both of these and a fiesta st 185, that would be a bloody good race.

  • @dangriffin118 i dont think it wud be. st185 is still slow and still cant handle as good as these 2 cars.!

  • if tiff didn't f**k the last couple of corners up they'd have probably been equal, both nice cars, i own a 182 and theres sod all in it, so why do people come on here saying they have a world beating ctr or clio rs?? Its all down to the driver anyway.

  • Go honda!!!

  • Tiff Needell is a cunt.

  • fuck japs!!! Renault Sport rules!!!

  • @TheHell666yeah renault is a peace of shit japan cars are the best in the world! ( to race )

  • 0.2 sec`s quicker wid 20 bhp more? shit chassis.6,8 sec`s too tiff not 6.5

  • @HENRYHOBBS1 the renault is lighter so the power to weight is nearly identical as Tiff says in the video. so the 18hp advantage is mute.

    and that beeing said who has the shit chassis?

  • Which such close result whats the point fighting?

  • clio is quiker is better the type r is ungly and slow

  • @williamsf7r56 cmon mate, don't be stupid.....Renault follow in the footsteps of Honda. They never did make good N/A engines so they have now resorted to forged induction.....sorry but LAME

  • @bassicuk1986 the new clio 200 is N/A n makes 197bhp,what u on about?

  • @HENRYHOBBS1 you maybe right but Honda have the F20C 240bhp from 2.0L. One of the most powerful bhp per litre (120) Renault had the 3.0 24v which produced less bhp....WEAK ...Im sorry but they are just unreliable pieces of shit!! WATCH the video above....The experts are in favour of the Honda.

  • @bassicuk1986 the experts? the ctr is ok on a smooth track but if tiff drove a ctr on a good b road he would soon change his mind,dead steering n a awful crashy ride! iv had one,the top end rush is fun but u soon get bored of that.u never get bored of a great chassis,ie:182.i like hondas but renaultsport make better day to day drivers cars

  • @HENRYHOBBS1 fair enough mate but ifI wanted a daily driver I'd get a Lexus/Mercedes/BMW......Renaul­ts have too many flaws. They're not aggressive enough for me....

  • @bassicuk1986 drive a 172cup or 182 trophy,there aggresive! a 05 ctr is 2k more expensive than a 182 too now a days

  • @bassicuk1986 what a dick ,clio 200 rs has a n\a 2.0 engine no turbo similar to v tec 203 hp and has so much torque better than v tecs..sorry nut renaults are better hot hatches than all

  • well the civic has more room and more power and a sexy look and the clio is nice and all but i would perfer the civic..

  • CIVIC HATCHBACK

    CLIO SMALL CAR

  • Renaults are OK but they're built so shit.....Hondas are always going to be better. No matter what

  • @ RtGKarma thanks alot for information i appreciate :)

  • what is the difference between ( Civic SI) & (Civic Type-R) ? anyone know ?

  • @AStateOfTranceMusic the type r is only in Europe and Japan and always seems to have more power, torque, options, and body style. Take the EP3 (the civic in the video) He said that it had 197bhp. In the United States it only has 160 Bhp. It's sort of a downer for the US. Hopefully the US regulations ease up and we stop getting shafted with cars.

  • I own the Clio from this video now :)

  • both cars got timed in EVO mag,ctr 6.8seconds to 60,clio cup 6.6,c tiff is so full a shit,he slid the clio round the last corner so it lost

  • both cars slid , short memory???

  • some hondas since the NSX-R have been so cool

    good honda!!!

  • I just love a good b road blast in my hot back, er i mean my hot shot!!!......or is it ah nevermind all i had to do was enter three times and i won!

  • @HKSFD35 there was a contest to enter your mum's minge, and everybody entered

  • obvious troll is obvious

  • Civic looks better than the clio, it looks meaner. clio is more of a girls car lol sorry too dissapoint clio fans, but thats what i think lol

  • never said it was, thats why i put more of, if you read it lol clio def looks more like a hairdressers car though outa the 2

  • rather own a jap car than a french car lol

  • @rossvision1

    i'm french, and you're right!

    a friend rs :

    27000km--> catalytic system dead

    50000-> water pump

    60000-> hydraulic steering...

    that's enough?

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  • @rossvision1 Impreza looks mean, Galant VR-4 looks mean, 911 looks mean. Plasticky Civic looks.. well... just plasticky.

  • @OhFishyFish i am comparing these two hatchbacks to each other, im not comparing to impreza or evo or something.

  • @rossvision1 Hairdressers car if you please! lol

  • @rossvision1

    What ??!!!

    The Clio RS a car for girls (especialy to coamer to this ugly Honda) ?? !!!

    lol

    it must be a typical "idiot unscholar little cock anti-french" roastbeef to dare say that LOL

  • @cumbas not anti french atall, reliability says it all im a afraid lol All i was sayin was a prefrence to what i would own. so don't take it as an insult to your country because its not. Looking at your channel i can see you are french and seem very patriotic, so you would like your country's cars lol

  • what a bad driver.

  • lol, yeah your callin the stig (tiff needell) a bad driver, what a dumbass

  • hvtecfreak-right said! ps- i did'nt saw yet the vid,now i will start

  • u just can not compare honda with renault ! eg2 owner !

  • thats a big problem with the clio`s.... i had a 172... terrible ratio`s from the gearbox... bad synchro`s too.... grated in 3rd gear all the time... bad electrical problems.... but none the less still a good hot hatch... good fun.... but not as good as a ep3, thats what i ended up changing it for....

  • 5th gear sucks, top gear rules

  • +18 hp where is ? RENAULT POWER

  • whats a common way of referring to a sporty hatchback?

    "Rice Rocket"... lol jk. HONDA FOR LIFE!

  • honda is the best

    the power of dreams

  • i wish i was in that competion car

  • to answer the question drive both cars,you'll find the 182 nippy but the gearbox is very shite

    the type r sounds amazing,looks 10x better,more reliable,better interior,brilliant gearbox,build quality the list goes on

    some prefer french cars and some like me prefer jap cars

    i like the 197 in white and black wheels but you cant beat a good gunmetal type r

    they should compare the clio williams with the ek9,close but again the civic is better

  • v2scoobystiwagon

    EK9 Type-R would rip apart a Clio Williams but thats because the EK9 is alot newer and powerful so you cant compare them.

    EK9 was launched in 1998 while the Williams was launched in 1992 so you should compare it against EG6 Civic VTI (158) Bhp which wasnt launched too long after.

  • but both are old,dated and both are icons for there marque.

    the williams has more torque than the civic so its a fair comparisan,plus the clio has a bigger engine

    i see what you mean by comparing age but i think the williams is my favourite clio and the ek9 is my favourite civic so its a good comparisan for me anyway...

  • please stop doing thos focus unfocusing in the beggining of the vid it's really annoying

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  • I prefer the EP3 Type R anyway, even if it had lost, the Clio 182 is a great car too though, but reliability wise its awful....

  • High performance Hondas are awesome =]

    Not big into the look of the EP3's and would probably never own one, but I'm impressed a car that tall and narrow can handle so well with those skinny tires.....

  • it looks tall and narrow because the video is compressed from its original size. I run 215 width tires on the stock rims, so it's not THAT narrow

  • haha he says the answer like 5 times during the vid

    one of the guys at my church has a black ep3 and it is the bees knees!

  • Very close race but the Clios reliabilty is the only thing that puts me off it.

  • clio sucks

  • what is the song 0:46 sec????

  • I have Clio182 - as Clarkson said - it jsut amkes you feel HAPPY!

  • exactly the reason why i bought one after my 172 lol

    to be fair tho it looks like he lost a lot of time in the clio at the last corner, probably wouldnt make a difference tho lol

  • Im surprised the clio got around the track without it breaking down...or at least something falling off....

  • lol hahah why are clios inriliable? I drov eone in portugal it wasnt bad. But ill take the type R over it any day

  • XRacer6

    Your not even old enough to spell properly nevermind drive lol

  • OK relax I messed up on typing. No big deal lol. Im 16, thats old enough to drive lol. I havent driven that exact model but I did get to get a feel for a it a little bit. Fun car.

  • XRacer6

    A normal Clio is nothing like the 182. Trust me it takes alot of experience to realize the potential of those cars. Both great cars but i would never buy a french performance car.

  • Yeah i get you. Both are fun. I think the one I drove was just the sport. It was fun, but as for the comparison scene here. Im with you Civic type R. I dont think french performance carsa are all that bad. But I like Japanese more.

  • haha skid.

  • that why the clio lost in hands of a proffesional driver, make yourself sound like a right muppet

  • Does anyone know the soundtrack at 46s of the clip? Thanx

  • queens of the stoneage - no one knows

  • Civic Type R easy, better top speed, stronger gearbox, better driving position, better built, more reliable, better resale value, nicer engine... Don't get me wrong the Clio is a nice car, but the Civic's just nicer lol.

  • most people fall into one catagory or the other. i agree with most of what you said and is probably the better car overall, i bought the clio because it has much more character and is alot more fun to drive also has more equipment inside

  • Renault???

    what a joke

  • ive had 2 renault clio 182 then i bought a civic type-r.... i had it for a year and ive just bought another 182, much better than the type-r, more fun to drive and much more to play with inside than the type-r... the only good thing that the type-r has on the 182 is nice seats... 182 any day !!!!!!

  • ??? yea but on a d-road run the type-r pulls on the clio every time even 4up the civic pulls from a clio with just a driver in?? plus there bulletproof you have to rev it harder than the clio there for more excitment

  • probably the best model of civic typer r (ep3)

  • Renault sucks, HONDA RULES

  • TOTALLY!!!!

  • Hallelujah!

  • does the ep3 type r have the same engine as the dc5 type r. Because they look the same and I think that the ep3 engine has lower rpm.

  • civictypeREP3

    Yes it uses the same K20 engine but slightly modified.

  • Someone know the song to 46sec ??

  • how can you complain with hondas reliablity fuel milage and 100hp per litre???? you cant.

  • Right, Renault and all the european's car are far of that

  • By the way, does anyone know the soundtrack played in the background during the Honda Civic Type-R benchmark?

    It sounds awsome!

  • odd they put these cars against each other... civics are to go against meganes, golfs etc. clios should be against 207s, or swifts...

  • Type R is great but the focus rs beats it round the track in the other fifth gear video

  • honda rulez.... i would prefer ivtec engine as the fuel consumption is very good and the performance is fantastic...

  • I actually have a 2002 type r. It's so much better of an ep2 than the american version of the "si" it's got the 197hp k20a4 thats in the new si's. And it has 5 lug and a six speed. but theres no sunroof. But it's a great car. I wish I could drive a clio so I know which one is a better car.

  • Nice to see a good honest comment.

  • I have an 02 Honda Civic Si and need new tailights. I would like to have the LED's. ANybody know a good site for black LED Tail lights?

  • type r got bigger bollocks.stay jap or german and your be the daddy.

  • both excellent car... i have a CTR but also love the clio 182 and the new 197 F1. can never understand why ppl slag off each other cars both cars are pretty even

  • @makaveliuk82 Well said - it depends what you own I guess but you are right, there is sod all between them and it comes down to the driver as to which is quicker in a 'race'. Both great cars.

  • "16,000 lb Honda" damn

  • haha! agentsmith it doesnt mean is weighs 16,000 lb is means that the car costs £16,000

  • 5th gear is much better than top gear. the guys at 5th gear can actually drive and not just go straight on a runway (and still lose it lol). only reason for liking top gear would be for the exotics they show that i will never see in real life. 5th Gear FTW!!

  • Clio = Kia

  • the track they use with the stig is looser (less tight) than this one.. the focus has lots more power so it will be better on a bigger track. the TypeR will be better on a tighter track..

  • Not really, the focus only has about 15hp more, which tbh, aint that much. Still love them both though (hopeing to get myself one of them at somepoint next year)

  • Renault what??? Is that even a car??? Looks like a matchbox toy.

  • you seem to know nothing about cars

    you are probably from america since those bastards do not accept french cars and they are great

  • you mean your clit hahahahahah

    fuck off

  • mate u prob aint even got a civic and if u have its defo not a type r it will be a little k reg with a tin can exhaust mug!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • clio is a vagina car

  • funny the civic type r is known as looking like a bread van

  • minivan coupe' hehe

  • lol u no

  • intresting, he says the focus rs is slower then the civic however in top gear the stig drove both cars and showed that the focus was much faster. oh well, civic still looks the part.

  • At the end of the day the type r is a lil quicker than the clio look at all the mods you can do to the Type R compared to the clio and the other down fall to the clio is that its french and crap and the Type R is Jap which will run forever