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  • do better. dry your own stuff.

  • Want another secret? The difference between expiration dates and best buy dates, if there is no expiration date, it doesn't expire. Proof? Go to Hormel's website, they tell you their canned goods have no expiration date, they say it will just lose taste over time. It is the law, if it will expire, it must have an expiration date, if it only has a best by date, it can literally last indefinately.

  • @johnmonk66 Thanks for sharing.

  • @johnmonk66 They loose their nutritional value over time. The best by date refers to how long the food will last and still retain 100% of their nutritional value, after that time it goes down dramatically.

  • @smky143 That is what I said

  • i do the bags,,not cuz of the price but im a single person, one day i might eat steaw, the next something else. #10 cans if you open it you got to eat the hole can within the time loted...so ill go with bags.to

  • @gpuckit Nice

  • thank you im starting to stock up and this helps

  • @scubasteve6100 Cool! Thanks for watching!

  • The question you are not dealing with is how quickly does the loss of nutrient value of the foods begin to be lost between the can and pouch. Though the caloric content of both would be left intact over extended periods, I suspect that the pouch is more likely to have a deteriation of nutrients,

  • @romanmel1 That is a fair question to ask. I dont have a way to test it. I would love to see someone do that test. Thanks for watching!

  • have to agree with bags just for the ease in portion management during any emerg. situation but would also need to consider the cost of the extra container, it's size and storage capabilities (# of bags that will fit) ... great vid TY

  • @dstryxx Thanks for watching!

  • I know #10 cans are enamel lined. I feel comfortable that the lining will not "break down" over several years. Will the Mylar bags lining "break down" over time? Will the Mylar bag break down and add impurities to the food? I myself really don't know? Does anyone on this blog know?

  • @snookumsjack Ive never heard of anything like that happening.

  • @snookumsjack One can also store the bags in a good container...

  • @Genemachine79 I cant dispute your logic. However, I dont trust how wide the shelf life labels are. With years difference they must be taking conditions under consideration. I still believe the mylar will last under the right conditions. Both bags and cans use the same product with the same oxygen absorber. But under normal circumstances wear and tear will break them down. Thanks for providing and intelligent argument on here and not troll comments!

  • @Genemachine79 long. Though without proper storage your absolutely right.

  • @Genemachine79 The main point of this video is the price difference. All shelf life is hypothetical because there has never been an independent 30 year study.  Number ten calls are more durable because they are made to hold weight. However, mylar with the right storage method such as in 5 gallon buckets I bet would last just as

  • Hey I watched some of your reviews for Mountain House and you are very thorough with your reviews. Good videos and good information.

  • @survivalgreen1 Thanks for watching reviews:). I try my best to put out unbiased, accurate information.

  • One word: SPAM. Cheap, high calorie, lasts forever.

  • @MrJmfitch Haha.  This was focused on just freeze dried food.

  • @LegendSexy I was a marketing major in college, so I find this interesting. The product is the same, but they sell it two ways. Cheaper to the camper/hiker in a convenient bag, that you can put the water in... they charge less. They put it in a can to appeal to mass-hording survival nuts (like me) and charge more. Marketing. A powerful tool. Next they will sell a tactical, survival pet rock... who knows, maybe I will fall prey... overall, strong point made by you. Good vid.

  • @MrJmfitch Thanks for watching:)

  • thumbs up!

    i would like to make quality freeze dried food. people interested in prepardness, survival would be just the type of people to me motivated enough to do this and save a mountain of cash.

    the issue with long term storage is fats and oils, which we definately need, i think they deteriorate even sealed from oxygen. in my reading, vacuum sealed hard winter wheat lasted 25 years but freeze dried meals much less. canned foods the shortest life span...

    but my info is old - y2k prepping

  • hey i don't think you are reading the serving amount right on the cans.

  • @werb1961 Absolutely it is right. If you dont believe me, go to the mountain house website and read the nutrition facts...

  • Great information. I often do compairison math like that and am amazed at how much info it produces. I love it that you put a video out about your findings.

  • @katiatomsk Ya it brings out the truth.

  • Great vid!! I appreciate the info!!!

  • @bobosantos1 Thanks for watching!

  • great video brother

  • @acromexicant Thanks for watching!

  • First, not all calories are created equal, and unlike most think, carbs will make your sugar go up, and will make you feel tired, and hungry in an hour. Don't believe it, take a test, I did, and if you want energy buy what you need to store, meat, veggies and a bit of fruit. Complete energy! Yes, you can eat carbs, but not the amount in the meals any of them make. MAKE YOUR OWN, cheaper, and more nutrition than any premixed meal. Pack in mylar bags. Cost less than any other way. Honest!

  • @Sheila6325 Calories are completely equal. Each calorie is equal in energy. Carbs are sugar chains. Some break down faster which makes your release insulin into blood stream. That is why you feel energetic. When glycogen levels are filled the rest is stored as lipids. Grains carry the highest ratio of CHO. However, its is important to have the vast majority of your diet in carbohydrates. They are your primary energy source of the body. Everything in moderation and youll be fine.

  • @LegendSexy If energy is your main concern, then a calorie can be a calorie, however if you want to be healthy, Nutrients will save your life. 1 slice of bread and 1 orange 2 5/8" are about the same in calories, same carb count, but if you eat bread for months, without an orange, you get SCURVY.

    High calorie count is not necessarily good nutrition! SURVY is proof of that! What makes up those calories, is as important as getting enough of them. Foods are not created equal, we need them all.

  • @Sheila6325 The reason I say "everything" in moderation because when there is a balanced diet nutrition is usually balanced. I agree man cannot live on bread alone. Most premade meals tend to have a balance efficient enough to keep you healthy.

  • @LegendSexy You Do make a great point here, about which items to buy at the best price, but lately I have noticed that so many are planning to live on beans, rice, and wheat, and are talking only calories, so I think it's also important, to remind people that they need more than high calorie, and total carbs in our diets. I guess becasue I have added more nutrition to my bags lately, I worried people will forget other items that are important too. Your videos are great, and all will benefit.

  • @Sheila6325 thanks for the kind words. In another video I suggest storing multiviatmins to make up for lack of nutrition in the diet. I also talk about storing a variety of food in my of my storage videos.

  • @Azuremaidens For the price they are worth it.

  • I paid $10 for a #10 can:

    samsclub. com/sams/shop/product. jsp?productId=prod1620354

  • @nottinmatterz2day For what? The link is broken.  Itd be cool to know.

  • @LegendSexy YOU NEED TO DELETE THE SPACES BEFORE CLICKING ENTER FOR THE LINK

  • Great video with information everyone needs to know. Thanks

  • thanks

    

  • I say first stock up with a mountain load of canned food......which will easily last over 5 years, and MUCH cheaper than freeze-dried stuff. Then maybe toss in some of this pricey stuff. Dont forget to stack tha Silver!!!!!

  • I have only gotten the bags cause they were only things that were available. The cans were on a 90 day back-order. This makes me feel much better on my decision to get the bags. I will be picking more up soon.

  • @1HerculePoirot I will be doing a video soon showing why I will never buy a number 10 can again unless it has powdered milk, eggs, cheese, or butter. I did a study between all major suppliers of freeze dried and dehydrated food and realized everyone is paying far too much money for the amount of calories they are receiving.

  • Great info! The math sounds about right, thanks for keeping us up to date.

  • I prefer cases of mre military issued. So i agree and may i suggest u compare the weight advantage = mobility.

  • @monkybit Yep Ill do it in a future video

  • thank you guy

  • Demcad sent me here!

  • Noo, but i have a recipe that reduces the teeth falling out caused by scurvy lol. It beasts that, ask the early settlers.

  • @stuttgurth just make pine needle tea..

  • @APRtunedAudi ORRRRRR you can go to a cannery and get some food thatll last 20-30 years for waaaaay cheaper. Check out providentliving

    New found respect (not that i didnt have any before) for the mormons.

  • This mountain house stuff is expensive. Whats the point?

  • great vid and thanks for sharing.. p.s.if people are worry about bags breaking they can always store in homemade  buckets survival kit

  • Great comparison vid bro! Thanks for sharing  :)

  • @rekjavicxxx Your welcome

  • great work

  • @semiautoriflelover Thanks buddy

  • Great Video thanks!!!!!

  • @StatenIslandPrepper Thanks for watching

  • I agree with legendsexy, the main benefit of the cans is that they are more durable than the bags, but if you look at serving size you actually get more in a MH 2 person bag. AND there are no #10 cans for the public,MH has a GOV. contract. Right from the lips of the clerk at MH!!! Has anyone tried THRIVE or HONEYVILLE FARMS?

    Contact me if you have. I have a mixture of cans+MRE's+bags. And LDS rice +beans+oats. But since I am not a believer in bugging out this is for any problem getting food.

  • @StatenIslandPrepper I know Beast has thrive and says its pretty good stuff.

  • Most people don't realize the big difference between freeze dried and dehydrated food, Besides FD being much more expensive, You almost always get a smaller # of servings per can, Yes FD is much lighter in weight than dehydrated but you get a lot more for your money with dehydrated. MH is the best FD but most the expensive FD I have found, I find a LOT more choices in food types in dehydrated as well.

  • @Zguitar1 Absolutely. In my opinion freeze dried food is something to add to widen your selection after enough staples have been stored. I also have a dehydrator and do my best to store it that way. Thanks for watching!

  • I would be willing to bet that this particular thing only applies to the cans that hold premade meals. If you buy the egg powder, the freezedried hamburger, the freezedried vegetables, all the things that are packed as a single ingredient, you get MUCH more bang for your buck versus the bags. I still buy the bags sometimes, you just cant beat the convenience for camping, hiking and bugout or emergency meals.

  • @Largewhiteguy1 I was interested after I read your comment so I went and did the math. Most of the meat products average 1800 calories per can. Each can costs normally 46 dollars at best. Its much worse than buying the meals surprisingly. Basically you are paying for about almost 50 bucks for enough calories to keep you alive for a day.

  • @dgerps No problem

  • I bet I missed it. But did you figure in how many servings there are in a can?

  • @kphifer1 Usually 10

  • I have been buying MH bags at wallmart every time I go. Now I have about 45 bags of MH stored in a tote. Much easier to use a bag then a can plus I cant even find MH cans anymore. Thanks for the info!

  • @urbansurvivor101 Thanks for watching!

  • Best video to date!

  • This is by far the most important video you have put out!

  • make more videos win you have some time i am buying some mountain house this week 

  • @MrJohn196741 I have several on other MH products if you want to look back through my videos:)

  • good video

  • @MrJohn196741 Thanks

  • wow your a genious!!!! keep up the good work now start a call on skype.....

    love yinglyca

  • @yinglyca lol

  • great vid brother....

  • @BLACKHEARTSE7EN Thanks:)

  • If its the same product. Why not just look at the quantity of ounces in each package. Then get a price per ounce. No need to get into calories if it is the same product.

  • @aaronbassplyr I decided to do it in calories because you can take that and apply it to your total basal needs. For example 6 ounces of salad has way less calories than 6 ounces of chocolate. So it was important to figure out what you could measure across the board. What it comes down to is how many calories will contribute to your diet.

  • @LegendSexy Still, if your comparing the same items, which you were. There is no need to calculate calories. If you were comparing apples to oranges that is ok. But you made the point of calculating the same product in different containers in calories. Which is unnecessary.

  • @aaronbassplyr I disagree whole heartedly and here is why. After taking a closer look on these, I noticed that serving size was different between both products eventhough its the same item. Because of this they are selling at two different rates per ounce. The only accurate way was to compare total kcal, cho, fat, and protein per package item. Im going to do another video soon showing all the major freeze dried food and dehydrated brands of number ten cans.

  • I would imagine that the calories you mentioned for the number 10 can MountainHouse is per serving, not the entire can. There is probably multiple servings in a can, so you would be saving money going with the can vs the bag.

  • @JERMBUGS Nope I took the total calories in each product- for the bag and can. The cans had 10 servings each and the bags had 2.5. You save much more with the bag. Its the same product in both items but for some reason serving sizes are different. So the only fair way was to compare total calories in the products.

  • @LegendSexy Thanks for the response and for clarifying. That is interesting, thank-goodness I haven't invested in the MountainHouse number 10 cans.

  • @JERMBUGS Thanks for you comment. It made me realize to annotate the video so others would understand.

  • Good info. dude...

  • @DOGPATCH63 Thanks bud

  • great info man. thanks

  • @weaponsandgear No problem

  • E=mc2  Economics= Mountainhouse X Cost Squared! It makes so much sense now! lol Thanks for the video Legend!

  • @meatloafzombie Lol excellent

  • I love the information you provided. I understand you were looking at calories only, correct? I think a question that should also be answered is how many servings per can vs. per bag. and also coast per serving. That is what I would be looking at as well. Those calories are going to be supplemented with other food sources too. I think that it would be prudent to have a mixture of both cans and bags for multiple reasons.

  • @westtexasprepper I also forgot, was it calories per unit, bag and can or calories per serving? Great video!

  • @westtexasprepper This was total calories per can and per bag. The cans have 10 servings each and the bags have 2.5. I took the total calories in each item.

  • lol, I just did a price comparison on another preppers channel and he deleted my comment!!!  Good lordy, is this just not common sense anymore? Good job as always.

  • @sc00b3rt Lol that sucks. Some people dont want to admit when they are wrong.

  • thanx for doin the hard work and passin the info on God bless

  • @cokeman250 You 2

  • Great work dude! Stuff a bunch of bags in a 5 gallon bucket and they should be fairly safe from puncture I would think!

  • @rooftopeagle Exactly

  • Interesting. 

  • @vladi420 Indeed

  • Thumbs up video~~John

  • @WORRO01 Thanks John

  • nice video!!

  • @TheJebus88 Gracias

  • 1:20, that's in one sitting!

  • @usframe Dude....read the SODIUM content...whuff

  • @usframe Nope thats the total amount of each package.

  • Nice work, thanks.

  • @Tardisius Thanks for watching buddy

  • Important video for long term survival. You & I think the same when it comes to math, i'm always telling people everywhere "hey, just do the math". My older brothers buy all their gas from fuel banks via their credit cards. At the pump I pay $3.89/gallon. At the fuel bank they pay $3.69/gallon. But, how much are they really paying with interest & for how many months? I submit it's no different or maybe more! For god sake their still paying for christmas shopping from last november!

  • @jasonmushersee Ya its a marketing tool to make consumers think they are getting a deal.

  • thanks for sharing,my wife and i mainly buy bag ,some things we will only buy in can for like long long term..only cause it is already packaged and will hold up ....keep prepping

  • @myroosterlounge Thanks for watching

  • WOW Math on paper. (QQ) Excellent!

  • @Kashmir2000is Lol ya I know most people forgot what that was.

  • @legendsexy Thanks for that info brother, I hadn't done the math but I had suspected just what your saying. Peace!

  • @minbound Spread the word buddy! Thanks for watching!

  • @neacie71 Thanks:)

  • On Mountain House's website, they say the pouches last 5-7 years and the #10 cans are 30 years. So I wouldn't say their expiration dates are equivalent. But good to know about the ounces.

  • @YokoWenis Ya Ive seen that. But you are getting the same product only in a different package. If you protect the package it will last just as long. One of my buddys put the bags in a 5 gallon bucket. Im sure that will protect it enough to last a long time.

  • @YokoWenis Just throw the pouches inside a larger mylar bag with an 02 absorber; then place it inside a bucket.

  • Real quick point; If your going to buy plastic packages, be sure they are "Foil Lined". Plastic is not an O2 barrier, this includes plastic pails not lined with Mylar. Foil lined packages will last about as long as cans, but another point is "Storage temperature". All dates listed for expiration have to do with best temp, generally within the 60's. Nutritional breakdown occurs at higher temps. When buying bulk, check the prices against the weight, sometimes it's cheaper to buy smaller packs.

  • @Originaldelsig Good points:)

  • @LegendSexy One other point to make; Vitamin C breaks down in a few years even when properly packaged. This is an issue that is seldom mentioned. Scurvy is a life threatening condition we haven't seen as we have many sources for it now, however, in the future we may suffer a lack of Vitamin C in stored foods. Thanks.

  • @Originaldelsig pine needle tea homey ;)

  • @stuttgurth Thats what these forums are for,.. the exchange of ideas. However, I personally would have to be spitting teeth before I drank Pine needle tea. Do you have a recipe that reduces the tanin?

  • @Originaldelsig really? spitting teeth? Pine needle tea is good. If its too strong for you liking just add rose hips.

  • @monkybit I can deal with Rosehips, the problem is finding them in a crisis situation. My friend who is deep into the "Rendezvous" lifestyle was doing Pine Needle Tea and I don't know if he used Jack Pine, White, Red Pine, Spruce or plastic Christmas tree, but it was kind of a cross between drinking turpentine, battery acid and licking a rats back side. I'm open to a lot of suggestions here as to what he did wrong and I've eaten things that would send Andrew Zimmer home.

  • Dude...great video..I added you as a friend, and please keep up the great content.

    Seeya

    Dude

  • @80spodcastchannel Thanks for watching

  • Dried foods are very expensive now. I featured this video on my channel.

  • @DEMCAD Thanks buddy. Ya they have gotten bad.

  • I don't store GM foods.

    I think in a few years they will be outlawed similar to smoking, and no one will eat them voluntarily.

    Good to see you thinking things through.

    I've actually been meaning to do a vid about food storage calories.

    -TEW

  • @theeastwatch Haha I like them. Ya I am going to do more videos along those lines also.

  • Great observation ,Iv done the math on the Thrive stuff, its always cheaper for the #10 can, thrive even has the pantry can, in between the bags and #10. Example, Our freeze dried chicken, is .85 per serving for pantry can but .70 per serving for 10#.

  • @beast12101 Nice to know. Thanks for watching!

  • LOVE the math!

  • @brendahere Thanks:) Share it to everybody please. I want this word to get out. Thanks again!

  • Daaayyyyummmn that's a sweet Gadsden you might say

  • @AZCustomMetal Haha its alright. Did you know you can hang it up. This guy named Brad told me.

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