Sooo, in regards to people interested in acting as a career (which I am not, I am in college btw), what exactly are you suggesting? Study that field in college just to graduate with student loans and four years of the time you could have been spending pursuing acting opportunities wasted in a classroom....Or are you suggesting studying something you have no interest in that will guarantee you a more stable job you have no interest in instead of doing what you love to do?
A university degree is an ENTRY LEVEL qualification; employers still have to take baby steps with you for your first 6+ months in any job. Professional qualifications better equip you, better prepare you, take less time and less money to complete, and give you more credence on your resume.
Oh come on. Mark Zuckerberg went to Phillips Exeter Academy, the most elite boarding school in the world, and he came from wealth already, not to mention he dropped out of HARVARD.
Libraries are free. Degree education is geared for morons who cannot look things up. It's the portfolio aka the showcase of your past works and skills that will get you hired.
Another point is that everyone these days has the degree. It has already lost its job qualification status.
Making the most money doesnt mean a better life. Those who earn a living doing something they would do for nothing because they love it, for enjoyment, they are the real winners at life. They never work. They could be wealthy or not.
If money wasn't controlled, you'd have more of a chance to be successful without a college degree and just the knowledge. But since this people have the fed on their speed line to bail them out, guess who has the money to give it to you, and guess what those people want, a college degree. Not saying it's impossible, just harder now then back then to make it, without a college degree.
@GarretSlarrity True on that. If you're really willing to work for it, a college degree is NOT needed. However like 3/4 of Americans don't want to -really- work for it. So they do need a college degree, or otherwise most likely be stuck in a minimum wage job.
@GarretSlarrity No, it does not make your point. In 1839 the world was not just a different place it was a completely and utterly inconceivable place for people of today. Its not even comparable.
It's not about whether you have a college degree or not, it's about creativity and innovation. A lot of people just don't have it, even if they are intelligent and rich.
So there are 63 extremely rich entrepreneurs who don't have college degrees, there are also millions of other entrepreneurs who get nowhere, or their idea gets stolen by an established company with the money to buy lawyers who can circumvent any patent filings...
Speaking as a dropout myself; I've met a TON of F*&^*ing IDIOTS with degrees/graduate-degrees, and an equal number of brilliant people with none. The college system in the US is simply a debt-trap for the poor, and a mating-ground for the well-off.
@akgregor Absolutely true. That is a fact, and should have the most thumbs up in this comment section. Goes to show that most Youtube viewers are dumb.
It's incorrect to say they didn't go to college. Many of them went to college but then dropped out. That's way different than not going in the first place.
You talk as if college is even an option for everyone. A whole lot of us are more concerned about whether we'll be able to afford rent this month or even be able to eat next week. I understand, though. The poor in this country are completely invisible to the elitist thought process.
the people on this list had a vision and a plan for their success and a bit of luck and the right opportunity coming up at the right time helps.. Being successful like these people did not just fall in their laps or happen by accident.
I went to college, but I don't have a degree. I still was able to move into a programming job after working on a HelpDesk for two years. I worked my way up to a senior software engineer in four years and now I have a six figure income. I always knew that I wanted to be a programmer ever since I was a kid. I realize I was very fortunate. College is expensive and I read that Computer Science courses aren't preparing the students for the real world. These kids come out too green.
The biggest thing you need to know about these people is that
1) They had an idea
2) They had a plan
and the 2nd part is probably 100x more important than the first. Sure you need an idea to do something innovative but if you don't have a plan you are going to fail.
Would rather be lucky than smart? Or are these the people who have no problems using others and taking the credit/money? They do not do this on their own
They are not rich because they didn't go to college. They are rich because they were 'better' than college (as in they did not need to learn to be motivated, think critically, an amazing ability to self learn).
Seeing that most employers went to college themselves, they usually won't hire you without a degree just because they chose to get one themselves. By doing your employers job better than they do without having a degree kind of makes them look like an idiot. But, if you know you want to start your own business and you won't accept failure, you might have what it takes to bypass college. But either way you need a plan.
Whoops. That hyphen was supposed to be a greater-than symbol. Having a career goal that doesn't involve going to college is better than going to without having a career goal.
Consider this..... the typical person who doesn't go to college, how much do they make? Now compare that with someone with a 2-year degree, then a 4-yr, then a 6-yr, then an 8-yr. What is your conclusion?
For the typical person, what is the logical choice?
many, many more ppl who dropped out to pursue their entrepreneurship, failed, lost all their money, and yeah... dropping out is definitely a gamble. might be worth it, but consider the risks
@AlicexMarilyn Because they would decrease their chance of their business succeding. They have to move fast in business, the thumbnail had zuckberg in it, I assume he didnt finish his degree, if he did that and waited a year or so to focus on facebook then something else would have taken the market.
@dharmahooligan56 But he was born at the right time and right place, not to say that he didnt work for it, but if he wasnt from around the silicon valley he probably would not have been so sucessful.
People have to keep in mind that the richest people who didn't go to college are extremely smart to begin with. If you are a C high school/college student and think about skipping college or dropping out of college to be the next bill gates, don't. It's not going to work out for you.
@spartan5127v2 You are equating grades with intelligence which is a common misconception. Grades are a result of memorization/repetition, time management, hard work, a stable home life, interest, drive, etc. I have only had a few classes (almost all in philosophy) which actually required any kind of real intelligence or thought.
@spartan5127v2 Exactly. They also already have to highly wealthy/connected friends to help them raise the seed money and visibility necessary to start a successful career/business really quickly.
@spartan5127v2 actually to become a great entrepreneur is not about being smart, entrepreneurship skills ie leadership skills, sale skills etc can be learned and developed. These people are the ones that end up hiring those "extremely smart" people. "A" students work for the "C" students, as the saying goes
@spartan5127v2 Thtas not true Einstein didn't do good in school and was a C student.He is only known becuase his mentor shared the same views as him trained him and looked after him. If it wasn't from his mentor we wouldn't be talking about Einstein.
@spartan5127v2 Who will become the next Bill Gates anyway?. Yeah they are extremely smart at what they did to made their fortune but it doesn't mean they we're straight A students, George W. Bush was far from it at Yale, Steve Jobs was no 4.0 student in high school himself, just because someone isn't a school person doesn't mean they won't succeed out in the real world, book smarts and street smarts are totally different.
correction they did go to college most of them went to harvard or yale or stanford or some really top level school, but they found that the school was only holding them back. So I think its not that they didn't go to college, they skipped college.
Go to college bitches.Even if it's an associate's degree, GET IT!!!!!!One year,two years,I don't care;just make sure you finish some classes.Get that shit on the resume !!!!!!
College has its place, and entrepreneurship has ITS place. Neither is really any better than the other. I mean, if you drop out to found, say, Goldman Sachs, was it REALLY worth it, esp. for society?
Peter Thiel's a fucking idiot. Yeah, if you're a budding entrepreneur w/ an "awesome idea" for a business, his plan to give you 100 grand or a million (or whatever it is) to create a startup SOUNDS GREAT. But what if you fail, and the company goes nowhere?? You'll kind of wish you HAD stayed in college instead of dropping out and not going through with the degree. Being an entrepreneur doesn't require such haste. Wait it out, graduate and THEN start a biz.
@whoo689 why would you call Peter Thiel an idiot? He's the one giving out 100 grand for anyone who wish to create a startup in their early 20s.. he doesn't force anyone to do so. The choices are theirs.
It's better to have a degree than not in terms of finding a job and being considered for certain jobs.
If you don't want college and a degree to be THE DEFAULT MINIMUMS for diff. career fields, CHANGE THE CULTURE of employment! Show these employers that "I don't need a college degree to work there." That's the only way it's gonna work out for ya if you skip college b/c of some nihilist or cynical bullshit (or whatever the word I'm thinking of).
All those idiots who say "college is a scam yadda yadda" seem to forget that, even if it IS "worthless", a LOT of employers aren't even gonna CONSIDER you unless you have something as basic as a Bachelor's degree! So, you know, your field of career options is much more limited. If you can afford it or can afford to take out the loans and can reasonably expect to pay them back after college, go for it. It's something to FALL BACK ON, at least. No one said college is the end-all be-all.
@IcyKitty No, because the dropouts or people who never attended in the first place who also financially succeed tend to be smarter than the vast majority of graduates. You shift your at-birtn class-ranking by a lot of hard and smart work. There is a little luck involved, but none of luck, hard working, nor smart working are by themselves sufficient for financial success in those who weren't born ultra-rich.
I'd like to know how many out of those 64 have stinking rick parents anyway so decided not to bother working hard cos they knew it was coming to them.
A very rich man once told me that having a college degree only shows that you can show up and commit to something for at least four years but from there on out, you'll be judged by your work ethic and attitude and your degree does not entitle you to a job.
The thing is 90% of us eventually turn out to be some hack job of a human being when we grow up, college or not. Sure, the work may require a moderately high amount of skill and it pays okay I'm sure, but you'll be tied up to a desk for eight hours and sitting in traffic and complaining about the weather and taxes and living in some cookie cutter suburban middle class house/apartment alongside other miserable hominids. My "dream" was to explore outer space. What a bunch of fantasy bullshit
@KissFromDaddy tons of different ideas, anything you want from an investor requires to knowing the right people at the right time, and education normally helps those investors to make an investment. Without it you'll have to have a proven track record of the product actually working... I know I can't start making or selling any of my ideas without having tons of cash so by the time I get that chance is when I have the money myself to invest into just starting up my business ideas...
Theres people saying college is about education not money but you could always be self educated by reading if thats the case. If you are going to college you better make some money.
Guys cut this bullshit idea of, you become a more well manner citizen when you get a college degree. If anything, it does the opposite and your job after school forces you to conform to the acceptable standard.
these guys are outliers that had advantages that most people don't, but they make a point with the college propaganda. Anyway in America you can live a nice life without a college degree. People who usually get degrees need to think about why they are getting it. if it is just to make money. plenty of fields they can go into without earning a degree if they want or need it regardless get it, but overall have a plan.
@epicmonkey96 im an engineer with a math major, and math majors make more fuckin money than english all day by 10 fold so go back to your english happy brain and be a fuckin teach or some shit LOL
@robertha Huh. I always thought those required English courses for Computer Engineering students like me and for those in related fields were just silly and that surely we didn't need them. Especially when they brought up the "No one will hire you if you can't communicate!" argument, the excuses felt thin to me. You however have proved a useful counterexample; now go take some more English classes (and a Bayesian probability theory course while you're at it).
@DeJach student is what you are, no shit undergrads and JC students need the English 101 and 102 to get into a BA program, but who gives a shit about comparative literature or critical thinking? after that wasted time of your life, youll be introduced to the following...
CHEM20A, CS31,
CS32, EE1, EE2, EE3,
EE10, EEM16,
MATH31A, MATH31B,
MATH32A, MATH32B,
MATH33A, MATH33B,
PHY1A, PHY1B,
PHY4AL, PHY4BL
wheres the English now Mr. COMPUTER ENGINEER?!?! if you forgot, communication is oral...
@robertha I would in general say that any one of those field-classes would be preferable to an ENG. But you need to work on your communication because unless you showed you were a hotshot many would avoid hiring you. I know liberal arts profs like to say they teach critical thinking, but without a probability course along with some knowledge in cognitive biases and heuristics they're just jerking off. (But engineers don't get that either, so everyone but the self-learner is screwed.)
@DeJach hiring is not an issue, that is why you got to college, its also the networking that makes it great, ive been working for close to 6 years already, and working on going back for an MBA degree /business administration/marketing. I guess youll have to worry if you start with nothing on youre resume but im 4 jobs deep since the age of 16 and everything has been a breeze. EZ BREeeEZZY SON!, TIP: Engineers are not sales men and work behind doors with a bunch of broken English individuals.
@robertha By the way, for an equally opaque list of classes I have to take (minus electives): MAT150, CS100&L, CS120&L, GAM100, ENG110, ART210, MAT200, ECE101L, CS170, CS170L, CS180, GAM150, PHY200, MAT140, CS225, CS315, ECE210, ECE220L, PHY270, MAT256, CS280, ECE200, ECE260, ECE270, MAT258, CS260, CS381, ECE300, ECE310L, MAT225, MAT340, CS365, CS370, ECE350, ECN350, ECE360L, ECE420, ECE410L, ECE460L. 154 credits minimum. They stick most ENGs in senior year so you focus on the project.
@robertha "Being a native English-speaker does not guarantee that you have language skills good enough to function as a hacker. If your writing is semi-literate, ungrammatical, and riddled with misspellings, many hackers (including myself) will tend to ignore you. While sloppy writing does not invariably mean sloppy thinking, we've generally found the correlation to be strong--and we have no use for sloppy thinkers. If you can't yet write competently, learn to." -- Eric S. Raymond
My bf is the smartest guy I know. He can tell you anything from world history, to any type of logical question, politics (global), economics, art history, programming, languages, etc. It's a shame he wouldn't be looked at twice for a job since he doesn't have his diploma.
i am going back to college eventhough i have a job just to make sure that i have a good degree before it becomes even more expensive and this is a ha bisky upload
My friend here is an actor and a Dr. She would give up her medical career for the right offer if it presented itself. I see more value and respect to her as a Dr myself. But she has a dream of being an actor and she has a foot in each door.
It's really something that needs to be looked at subjectively. Whatever it is that you want for your life... Some careers REQUIRE certain degrees...in that case you have to attend college. If you're open about job paths that don't require a degree, then college is really up to you. Do you not want it at all? Fine. Do you want to take college classes for fun? Fine. But keep in mind that it's a gamble and it can make or break your financial situation.
But Ana over the last God know how many TYT University episodes has hammered the point that a degree should be an investment...I totally disagree with that, i have a really good friend who is studying History and Ancient History...And the reason she wants to do that degree, is because she finds it interesting...
A degree should be for something that you like, and find interesting.
Because trust me, you can lose as much money from doing something you hate!
I dunno maybe its just an American thing, as in the UK though the fees have shot up, there will still be people taking classics, history, and even more obscure subjects, like i have a good family friend who took "Ancient and Norse literature". Though that was when you didnt have to pay. And we dont have "For profit colleges".
College degree in practically anything but liberal arts is beneficial These people beat the odds. If everyone could beat the odds then your probability is off.
It's funny how people only think of college as a way to make money post graduation. Forget the fact that you become a better citizen by becoming educated.
@Akhotnik I think it's because like something Ana said before. You don't go to college to become enlightened, you can do that online. For many, college is just a certification of their worth. I know I can have taught myself far more than my 12 years of public school education ever did if I had the power to.
@Thestralsxxx That is a very valid point. Information, especially on the net is relatively cheap, if not free, and available. However, really educating yourself is nearly impossible alone. Aristocrats many generations ago could pull it off because science(as well as the humanities) were not as advanced as they are now. Not to mention those people were extremely rich for their time. You cant give yourself the education an institution filled with professors can give you.
@Akhotnik That's all people care about these days: money, money, money. Even wannabe entrepreneurs only think about how much money they could make, not how they could change the world, which very few of them do.
@Akhotnik I have a JD and an LLM. I mainly 'drifted' into it. But I'm amazed that people have this crazy idea that ONLY college makes you educated. If yoj have the attitude of wanting to learn, you can easily educate yourself. Forget the richest 400. I can confirm I have met dozens of highly educated, super interesting and often very successful people (clients) who have no real education. e.g. The No. 2 at Samsung (CI Ryu) dropped out 9th grade and one of the smartest pple ever
@grnbbllntrck You're damn right. And I'm guessing someone is currently enrolled in college. There's no chance you've already graduated if you're saying that. By the way, I've added a goal and ambition to my life that I would need a college degree for. Kicking your ass. Unless you factor that I want to roll it up and use it as a weapon...on second though. Brb college
Because in 2011 all the information you need is available through the internet and possibly some seminars. When you're going to charge stupid amounts of money for a program. People are going to request a ROI.
@loveofphysics dude knowledge won't get u anywhere if u it doesn't make u money, or get u bitches. who cares if u know when and where david hume was born, in the end its all about the money, the women and for some people power and fame. i don't know why u'd go to college unless u wanted a decent job seriously. its not cheap u know
@loveofphysics Unfortunately, studying what you want can lead to living in a shitty house/neighborhood. :/ I definitely agree with you though it sucks that money has to be such a factor.
@loveofphysics < well if you have a graduate degree yet you can only work at Walmart, what's the point?
I mean, that doesn't make sense at all.
But to answer your question, the reason why it matters is because money matters, you need money to pay off your bills, student loans, etc. In short, money is everything.
I'm in the proses of inventing stuff ( useful stuff mind you) and i'm thinking of just drooping out and concentrate on that thoughts and opinions?
PS i have a 60 000 dollar security net just in case every thing goes to hell.
Partyffs 1 week ago
Sooo, in regards to people interested in acting as a career (which I am not, I am in college btw), what exactly are you suggesting? Study that field in college just to graduate with student loans and four years of the time you could have been spending pursuing acting opportunities wasted in a classroom....Or are you suggesting studying something you have no interest in that will guarantee you a more stable job you have no interest in instead of doing what you love to do?
nbumbury 3 weeks ago
My dad has always been a boss or a high level man in a company and has never went to college. He is just naturally good at leading.
Pondebong 1 month ago
A university degree is an ENTRY LEVEL qualification; employers still have to take baby steps with you for your first 6+ months in any job. Professional qualifications better equip you, better prepare you, take less time and less money to complete, and give you more credence on your resume.
BOZ11 1 month ago
Oh come on. Mark Zuckerberg went to Phillips Exeter Academy, the most elite boarding school in the world, and he came from wealth already, not to mention he dropped out of HARVARD.
NoremacTheGreat 1 month ago
the youngturks is a joke
ikillgophers 1 month ago
Libraries are free. Degree education is geared for morons who cannot look things up. It's the portfolio aka the showcase of your past works and skills that will get you hired.
Another point is that everyone these days has the degree. It has already lost its job qualification status.
fingrid 1 month ago
@fingrid fuck you, you are an idiot.
kazakhstanmkj 1 month ago
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@kazakhstanmkj Thank you.
fingrid 1 month ago
what about the wealthy ones?
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Making the most money doesnt mean a better life. Those who earn a living doing something they would do for nothing because they love it, for enjoyment, they are the real winners at life. They never work. They could be wealthy or not.
fantasy0coach 1 month ago
If money wasn't controlled, you'd have more of a chance to be successful without a college degree and just the knowledge. But since this people have the fed on their speed line to bail them out, guess who has the money to give it to you, and guess what those people want, a college degree. Not saying it's impossible, just harder now then back then to make it, without a college degree.
eethry 1 month ago
So, you're saying that it's just fine for US politicians to be actors, but it's bad if anyone else wants to be one?
Kevvo2011 1 month ago
John D. Rockefeller, the wealthiest human in world history, did not go to college.
GarretSlarrity 1 month ago 4
@GarretSlarrity
He was also born in 1839 when the average american didn't go to high school, let alone graduate from one.
ojisama8 1 month ago
@ojisama8 No matter what the average American did, it stills makes the point that college degrees are not needed to create wealth.
GarretSlarrity 1 month ago
@GarretSlarrity couldn't agree with you more. People need knowledge about money itself, and not just work hard for it all their lives
snapplelemon 1 month ago
@GarretSlarrity True on that. If you're really willing to work for it, a college degree is NOT needed. However like 3/4 of Americans don't want to -really- work for it. So they do need a college degree, or otherwise most likely be stuck in a minimum wage job.
Sanquinity 1 month ago
@Sanquinity Well if you don't want to work for it then there is no question that you can not create welath.
GarretSlarrity 1 month ago
@GarretSlarrity No, it does not make your point. In 1839 the world was not just a different place it was a completely and utterly inconceivable place for people of today. Its not even comparable.
So no, your point is really, really bad.
Hamhark98 1 month ago
@Hamhark98 The laws of economics never change. If it could be done in the past, it can and will be repeated.
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It's not about whether you have a college degree or not, it's about creativity and innovation. A lot of people just don't have it, even if they are intelligent and rich.
BannedUfos 1 month ago
that also means 85 % of the 400 did...I like those odds better
therealallpro 1 month ago
So there are 63 extremely rich entrepreneurs who don't have college degrees, there are also millions of other entrepreneurs who get nowhere, or their idea gets stolen by an established company with the money to buy lawyers who can circumvent any patent filings...
loveofphysics 1 month ago 4
I'd have been more impressed if Gates went to Howard
gzm858 1 month ago
entrepreneurs are driven and have lots of connections. without the support, you won't get far.
priceandpride 1 month ago
Speaking as a dropout myself; I've met a TON of F*&^*ing IDIOTS with degrees/graduate-degrees, and an equal number of brilliant people with none. The college system in the US is simply a debt-trap for the poor, and a mating-ground for the well-off.
akgregor 1 month ago 2
@akgregor Absolutely true. That is a fact, and should have the most thumbs up in this comment section. Goes to show that most Youtube viewers are dumb.
Kevvo2011 1 month ago
Bill Gates was a HOWARD dropout...The point is : He got into Howard at the first place...
Everybody is not that smart. So college RULES ! :D
auzer1000 1 month ago
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akgregor 1 month ago
@auzer1000 Harvard not Howard.
Moionfire 1 month ago
@Moionfire
lol ok :D
auzer1000 1 month ago
@auzer1000 It's Harvard, not Howard.. so yeah, you clearly need a college education.
IncentiveMediaTV 3 weeks ago
It's incorrect to say they didn't go to college. Many of them went to college but then dropped out. That's way different than not going in the first place.
kpopgrrl 1 month ago
You talk as if college is even an option for everyone. A whole lot of us are more concerned about whether we'll be able to afford rent this month or even be able to eat next week. I understand, though. The poor in this country are completely invisible to the elitist thought process.
BillMilliron 1 month ago
the people on this list had a vision and a plan for their success and a bit of luck and the right opportunity coming up at the right time helps.. Being successful like these people did not just fall in their laps or happen by accident.
trscott1975 1 month ago
The odds are against you. If you didn't figure that out on your own, then do yourself a favor and don't drop out of college.
MysteriousMayonaise 1 month ago
I went to college, but I don't have a degree. I still was able to move into a programming job after working on a HelpDesk for two years. I worked my way up to a senior software engineer in four years and now I have a six figure income. I always knew that I wanted to be a programmer ever since I was a kid. I realize I was very fortunate. College is expensive and I read that Computer Science courses aren't preparing the students for the real world. These kids come out too green.
SuperToughnut 1 month ago
these people were smart and lucky- luck being the main thing
rcgrcg123123 1 month ago
The biggest thing you need to know about these people is that
1) They had an idea
2) They had a plan
and the 2nd part is probably 100x more important than the first. Sure you need an idea to do something innovative but if you don't have a plan you are going to fail.
skwaag5233 1 month ago
Would rather be lucky than smart? Or are these the people who have no problems using others and taking the credit/money? They do not do this on their own
IcyKitty 1 month ago
@IcyKitty No they're just those special rare people who come up with a good plan without the need for college. Mind you they're as rare as diamonds.
MrFluffyducky 1 month ago
They are not rich because they didn't go to college. They are rich because they were 'better' than college (as in they did not need to learn to be motivated, think critically, an amazing ability to self learn).
lisa89 1 month ago
Seeing that most employers went to college themselves, they usually won't hire you without a degree just because they chose to get one themselves. By doing your employers job better than they do without having a degree kind of makes them look like an idiot. But, if you know you want to start your own business and you won't accept failure, you might have what it takes to bypass college. But either way you need a plan.
Crazea 1 month ago
Whoops. That hyphen was supposed to be a greater-than symbol. Having a career goal that doesn't involve going to college is better than going to without having a career goal.
mochalex 1 month ago
Having a career goal that doesn't involve college - going to college without a career goal.
mochalex 1 month ago
Consider this..... the typical person who doesn't go to college, how much do they make? Now compare that with someone with a 2-year degree, then a 4-yr, then a 6-yr, then an 8-yr. What is your conclusion?
For the typical person, what is the logical choice?
asdfgoogle 1 month ago 5
@asdfgoogle that's true for most typical average people, yes.
IncentiveMediaTV 3 weeks ago
many, many more ppl who dropped out to pursue their entrepreneurship, failed, lost all their money, and yeah... dropping out is definitely a gamble. might be worth it, but consider the risks
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ttzz2003 1 month ago
You don't need to go to college to learn how to steal and cheat people out of their money, but it DOES help now and then.
OtakuRebel 1 month ago
Unless your family is rich dropping out of college is a dumb idea.
Stamps600 1 month ago
how important is uni though because in england we get GCSE which is better than a GED and people go to college at 16 then go to uni at 18
sirbestnameever 1 month ago
Most of them come from well connected wealthy families too.
flake452 1 month ago 99
@flake452 If they had come from such wealthy families, then why wouldn't they go to college. It would be so easy for them, so why leave it out.
AlicexMarilyn 1 month ago
@AlicexMarilyn Because they would decrease their chance of their business succeding. They have to move fast in business, the thumbnail had zuckberg in it, I assume he didnt finish his degree, if he did that and waited a year or so to focus on facebook then something else would have taken the market.
flake452 1 month ago 2
@flake452 Steve Jobs didn't.
dharmahooligan56 1 month ago
@dharmahooligan56 But he was born at the right time and right place, not to say that he didnt work for it, but if he wasnt from around the silicon valley he probably would not have been so sucessful.
flake452 1 month ago
@flake452 YEAH DUH! Of COURSE!!!! either be born into wealth education and that is how it works of course.
kazakhstanmkj 1 month ago
People have to keep in mind that the richest people who didn't go to college are extremely smart to begin with. If you are a C high school/college student and think about skipping college or dropping out of college to be the next bill gates, don't. It's not going to work out for you.
spartan5127v2 1 month ago 70
@spartan5127v2 Luck and ruthlessness also helps.
Ganahim 1 month ago
@spartan5127v2 You are equating grades with intelligence which is a common misconception. Grades are a result of memorization/repetition, time management, hard work, a stable home life, interest, drive, etc. I have only had a few classes (almost all in philosophy) which actually required any kind of real intelligence or thought.
Nayr747 1 month ago 2
@spartan5127v2 Exactly. They also already have to highly wealthy/connected friends to help them raise the seed money and visibility necessary to start a successful career/business really quickly.
jcharit1 1 month ago
@spartan5127v2 actually to become a great entrepreneur is not about being smart, entrepreneurship skills ie leadership skills, sale skills etc can be learned and developed. These people are the ones that end up hiring those "extremely smart" people. "A" students work for the "C" students, as the saying goes
snapplelemon 1 month ago
@spartan5127v2 Thtas not true Einstein didn't do good in school and was a C student.He is only known becuase his mentor shared the same views as him trained him and looked after him. If it wasn't from his mentor we wouldn't be talking about Einstein.
ave383 3 weeks ago
@spartan5127v2 Who will become the next Bill Gates anyway?. Yeah they are extremely smart at what they did to made their fortune but it doesn't mean they we're straight A students, George W. Bush was far from it at Yale, Steve Jobs was no 4.0 student in high school himself, just because someone isn't a school person doesn't mean they won't succeed out in the real world, book smarts and street smarts are totally different.
MrDodger3222 3 weeks ago
correction they did go to college most of them went to harvard or yale or stanford or some really top level school, but they found that the school was only holding them back. So I think its not that they didn't go to college, they skipped college.
kazekage321414 1 month ago
Degrees don't ensure success. Statistically, they only multiply its probability over those unwilling or incapable of achieving one.
manonthemount 1 month ago
Go to college bitches.Even if it's an associate's degree, GET IT!!!!!!One year,two years,I don't care;just make sure you finish some classes.Get that shit on the resume !!!!!!
sesshoumaru3st 1 month ago
Mark Zuckerberg got rich and tried to betray and betrayed a LOT of people on the way.
I know how clever he is in screwing people over. And I am NOT just talking about the zuckerberg movie. There are things that were NOT in that movie.
Clanki 1 month ago
FUCK SIX PACK SHORTCUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GracieHK 1 month ago
College has its place, and entrepreneurship has ITS place. Neither is really any better than the other. I mean, if you drop out to found, say, Goldman Sachs, was it REALLY worth it, esp. for society?
whoo689 1 month ago
Peter Thiel's a fucking idiot. Yeah, if you're a budding entrepreneur w/ an "awesome idea" for a business, his plan to give you 100 grand or a million (or whatever it is) to create a startup SOUNDS GREAT. But what if you fail, and the company goes nowhere?? You'll kind of wish you HAD stayed in college instead of dropping out and not going through with the degree. Being an entrepreneur doesn't require such haste. Wait it out, graduate and THEN start a biz.
whoo689 1 month ago
@whoo689 why would you call Peter Thiel an idiot? He's the one giving out 100 grand for anyone who wish to create a startup in their early 20s.. he doesn't force anyone to do so. The choices are theirs.
IncentiveMediaTV 3 weeks ago
It's better to have a degree than not in terms of finding a job and being considered for certain jobs.
If you don't want college and a degree to be THE DEFAULT MINIMUMS for diff. career fields, CHANGE THE CULTURE of employment! Show these employers that "I don't need a college degree to work there." That's the only way it's gonna work out for ya if you skip college b/c of some nihilist or cynical bullshit (or whatever the word I'm thinking of).
whoo689 1 month ago
All those idiots who say "college is a scam yadda yadda" seem to forget that, even if it IS "worthless", a LOT of employers aren't even gonna CONSIDER you unless you have something as basic as a Bachelor's degree! So, you know, your field of career options is much more limited. If you can afford it or can afford to take out the loans and can reasonably expect to pay them back after college, go for it. It's something to FALL BACK ON, at least. No one said college is the end-all be-all.
whoo689 1 month ago
Ya but its no different than all kids who think they're going pro in sports
timoback3000 1 month ago
ma dad's boss never completed 12th
beachboys1992 1 month ago
I would rather be lucky than smart?
IcyKitty 1 month ago
@IcyKitty No, because the dropouts or people who never attended in the first place who also financially succeed tend to be smarter than the vast majority of graduates. You shift your at-birtn class-ranking by a lot of hard and smart work. There is a little luck involved, but none of luck, hard working, nor smart working are by themselves sufficient for financial success in those who weren't born ultra-rich.
DeJach 1 month ago
I'd like to know how many out of those 64 have stinking rick parents anyway so decided not to bother working hard cos they knew it was coming to them.
pef23 1 month ago
Liking the new TYT video quality and background visuals :-) Ana looks amazing in HD ;-) keeping it real
samsun8 1 month ago
A very rich man once told me that having a college degree only shows that you can show up and commit to something for at least four years but from there on out, you'll be judged by your work ethic and attitude and your degree does not entitle you to a job.
neversawthatcoming 1 month ago
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The thing is 90% of us eventually turn out to be some hack job of a human being when we grow up, college or not. Sure, the work may require a moderately high amount of skill and it pays okay I'm sure, but you'll be tied up to a desk for eight hours and sitting in traffic and complaining about the weather and taxes and living in some cookie cutter suburban middle class house/apartment alongside other miserable hominids. My "dream" was to explore outer space. What a bunch of fantasy bullshit
nipplewort 1 month ago
I want to be an entrepreneur... but I have zero capital or can prove to any investors to be taken serious without any college education
Snakekilla12 1 month ago in playlist Watch Later News vids
@Snakekilla12 What are you selling?
KissFromDaddy 1 month ago
@KissFromDaddy tons of different ideas, anything you want from an investor requires to knowing the right people at the right time, and education normally helps those investors to make an investment. Without it you'll have to have a proven track record of the product actually working... I know I can't start making or selling any of my ideas without having tons of cash so by the time I get that chance is when I have the money myself to invest into just starting up my business ideas...
Snakekilla12 1 month ago
Theres people saying college is about education not money but you could always be self educated by reading if thats the case. If you are going to college you better make some money.
Tony007corp 1 month ago
You are cherry picking data to suit your arguments.
nivashkumar3 1 month ago
College teaches you how to work for some one else, not how to have someone else work for you.
ThatGuy1208 1 month ago
@ThatGuy1208 Bingo...
KissFromDaddy 1 month ago
How many have phd or mba?
nivashkumar3 1 month ago
Guys cut this bullshit idea of, you become a more well manner citizen when you get a college degree. If anything, it does the opposite and your job after school forces you to conform to the acceptable standard.
Gripsock 1 month ago
@Gripsock Sshhh, don't destroy the preciously fragile boxes these people are living in when trying to justify the expense.
DeJach 1 month ago
@Gripsock
> "you become a more well manner citizen"
> "conform to the acceptable standard"
Exactly.
ieatwiteoutforfun 1 month ago
@ieatwiteoutforfun :D
Doesn't mean I'm a bad citizen. D:
Gripsock 1 month ago
@ieatwiteoutforfun wait... a sec. neither of those statements were improper.
Gripsock 1 month ago
wasnt zuckerburg going to Harvard though.
StoneTNo5 1 month ago
@StoneTNo5 He dropped out.
Mdmartin444 1 month ago
@StoneTNo5 He dropped out before he got his degree.
TheBoredProle 1 month ago
Good thing history books have already been written, because absolutely no fucking one wants to study it.
MultiUniv3rsal 1 month ago
@MultiUniv3rsal I do. I plan on majoring in it.
TheBoredProle 1 month ago
these guys are outliers that had advantages that most people don't, but they make a point with the college propaganda. Anyway in America you can live a nice life without a college degree. People who usually get degrees need to think about why they are getting it. if it is just to make money. plenty of fields they can go into without earning a degree if they want or need it regardless get it, but overall have a plan.
lordblazer 1 month ago
I love Ana's neckalace
Gr4yW0rld 1 month ago
just noticed....Rick looks exactly like Mark Zuckerberg!!!!
nedmzad 1 month ago 20
@nedmzad I think Rick is also Jewish like Zuckerberg.
jacqueline716 1 month ago
@nedmzad LOL!! you just noticed that :DDD
chillytoes1 1 month ago
@nedmzad rick who?
applebaj 1 month ago
@applebaj The guy in the Young Turks,
nedmzad 1 month ago
DIPLOMA DOES NOT PROVE INTELLIGENCE, DIPLOMA PROVES YOUR NOT A LAZY SHIT
robertha 1 month ago 35
@robertha CHECK YOUR GRAMMAR, IT PROVES YOU'RE NOT A LAZY SHIT.
epicmonkey96 1 month ago
@epicmonkey96 im an engineer with a math major, and math majors make more fuckin money than english all day by 10 fold so go back to your english happy brain and be a fuckin teach or some shit LOL
robertha 1 month ago
@robertha Huh. I always thought those required English courses for Computer Engineering students like me and for those in related fields were just silly and that surely we didn't need them. Especially when they brought up the "No one will hire you if you can't communicate!" argument, the excuses felt thin to me. You however have proved a useful counterexample; now go take some more English classes (and a Bayesian probability theory course while you're at it).
DeJach 1 month ago
@DeJach student is what you are, no shit undergrads and JC students need the English 101 and 102 to get into a BA program, but who gives a shit about comparative literature or critical thinking? after that wasted time of your life, youll be introduced to the following...
CHEM20A, CS31,
CS32, EE1, EE2, EE3,
EE10, EEM16,
MATH31A, MATH31B,
MATH32A, MATH32B,
MATH33A, MATH33B,
PHY1A, PHY1B,
PHY4AL, PHY4BL
wheres the English now Mr. COMPUTER ENGINEER?!?! if you forgot, communication is oral...
robertha 1 month ago
@robertha You're an idiot.
PSNBloodraid 1 month ago
@robertha I would in general say that any one of those field-classes would be preferable to an ENG. But you need to work on your communication because unless you showed you were a hotshot many would avoid hiring you. I know liberal arts profs like to say they teach critical thinking, but without a probability course along with some knowledge in cognitive biases and heuristics they're just jerking off. (But engineers don't get that either, so everyone but the self-learner is screwed.)
DeJach 1 month ago
@DeJach hiring is not an issue, that is why you got to college, its also the networking that makes it great, ive been working for close to 6 years already, and working on going back for an MBA degree /business administration/marketing. I guess youll have to worry if you start with nothing on youre resume but im 4 jobs deep since the age of 16 and everything has been a breeze. EZ BREeeEZZY SON!, TIP: Engineers are not sales men and work behind doors with a bunch of broken English individuals.
robertha 1 month ago
@robertha By the way, for an equally opaque list of classes I have to take (minus electives): MAT150, CS100&L, CS120&L, GAM100, ENG110, ART210, MAT200, ECE101L, CS170, CS170L, CS180, GAM150, PHY200, MAT140, CS225, CS315, ECE210, ECE220L, PHY270, MAT256, CS280, ECE200, ECE260, ECE270, MAT258, CS260, CS381, ECE300, ECE310L, MAT225, MAT340, CS365, CS370, ECE350, ECN350, ECE360L, ECE420, ECE410L, ECE460L. 154 credits minimum. They stick most ENGs in senior year so you focus on the project.
DeJach 1 month ago
@robertha "Being a native English-speaker does not guarantee that you have language skills good enough to function as a hacker. If your writing is semi-literate, ungrammatical, and riddled with misspellings, many hackers (including myself) will tend to ignore you. While sloppy writing does not invariably mean sloppy thinking, we've generally found the correlation to be strong--and we have no use for sloppy thinkers. If you can't yet write competently, learn to." -- Eric S. Raymond
DeJach 1 month ago
@robertha diploma doesn't prove you're not a lazy shit. trust me, lot's of college grads that are lazy as fuck.
runtubefantasy 1 month ago
@robertha Exactly. No body needs a fancy sheet of paper to prove you're smart
arc175 1 month ago
@robertha Not even that. Some people are still incredibly lazy who get a degree and are just lucky.
RudeBoy9179 1 month ago
@robertha It also proves that you have been taught a certain amount of knowledge which is why its obviously important.
metaitachi 1 month ago
My bf is the smartest guy I know. He can tell you anything from world history, to any type of logical question, politics (global), economics, art history, programming, languages, etc. It's a shame he wouldn't be looked at twice for a job since he doesn't have his diploma.
NeccoWecco 1 month ago
my friend went to college to be an actor
kazooga1234 1 month ago
I know a lot of people who make six figs without having gone to college.
kfinnguy 1 month ago
@kfinnguy well youth dont have those oppurtunities the people u know did.
Ayohima 1 month ago
i am going back to college eventhough i have a job just to make sure that i have a good degree before it becomes even more expensive and this is a ha bisky upload
kazooga1234 1 month ago
My friend here is an actor and a Dr. She would give up her medical career for the right offer if it presented itself. I see more value and respect to her as a Dr myself. But she has a dream of being an actor and she has a foot in each door.
scottclements78 1 month ago
@scottclements78 is she doing the splits.lol.okay bad joke......
Ayohima 1 month ago
@Ayohima haha, nah she is doing pretty good. She is hot too.
scottclements78 1 month ago
It's really something that needs to be looked at subjectively. Whatever it is that you want for your life... Some careers REQUIRE certain degrees...in that case you have to attend college. If you're open about job paths that don't require a degree, then college is really up to you. Do you not want it at all? Fine. Do you want to take college classes for fun? Fine. But keep in mind that it's a gamble and it can make or break your financial situation.
Numbuh7 1 month ago
I don't mean to be a Debbie downer...
But Ana over the last God know how many TYT University episodes has hammered the point that a degree should be an investment...I totally disagree with that, i have a really good friend who is studying History and Ancient History...And the reason she wants to do that degree, is because she finds it interesting...
A degree should be for something that you like, and find interesting.
Because trust me, you can lose as much money from doing something you hate!
rorrt 1 month ago
@rorrt She's high maintenance. All she cares about is money.
ieatwiteoutforfun 1 month ago
@ieatwiteoutforfun
She looks it.
lol
I dunno maybe its just an American thing, as in the UK though the fees have shot up, there will still be people taking classics, history, and even more obscure subjects, like i have a good family friend who took "Ancient and Norse literature". Though that was when you didnt have to pay. And we dont have "For profit colleges".
rorrt 1 month ago
Most Actors already have thier careers. going before they graduate high school.
Salvysahagun 1 month ago
@DaWaff1eman I hope you know that liberal art degrees include math and science...
IntelligentsiaUS 1 month ago
College degree in practically anything but liberal arts is beneficial These people beat the odds. If everyone could beat the odds then your probability is off.
DaWaff1eman 1 month ago
How many of those rich college grads inherited the wealth?
keithrockerboblewis 1 month ago
@keithrockerboblewis
According to Forbes Magazine 1/3 inherited part of thier wealth and less then 20 are living directly off inherited wealth.
Salvysahagun 1 month ago
It's funny how people only think of college as a way to make money post graduation. Forget the fact that you become a better citizen by becoming educated.
Akhotnik 1 month ago 55
@Akhotnik I think it's because like something Ana said before. You don't go to college to become enlightened, you can do that online. For many, college is just a certification of their worth. I know I can have taught myself far more than my 12 years of public school education ever did if I had the power to.
Thestralsxxx 1 month ago
@Thestralsxxx That is a very valid point. Information, especially on the net is relatively cheap, if not free, and available. However, really educating yourself is nearly impossible alone. Aristocrats many generations ago could pull it off because science(as well as the humanities) were not as advanced as they are now. Not to mention those people were extremely rich for their time. You cant give yourself the education an institution filled with professors can give you.
Akhotnik 1 month ago
@Akhotnik lol. people who go to college to learn lol.
TheAce1082 1 month ago
@Akhotnik schools dont actually educate if u didnt know...
Ayohima 1 month ago
@Akhotnik Yeah, because people that can't afford college are of a lesser quality.
fredwasnothere 1 month ago
@fredwasnothere Yeah, I didn't say people without education are of lesser quality.
Akhotnik 1 month ago
@Akhotnik Money makes the world go round. Without it, life is rough. Money > everything else.....
poestasis7 1 month ago
@Akhotnik Becoming a better citizen is all fine and good, but it sure as hell won't pay off those student loans.
agnosticallyatheist 1 month ago
@Akhotnik That's all people care about these days: money, money, money. Even wannabe entrepreneurs only think about how much money they could make, not how they could change the world, which very few of them do.
JIYkp 1 month ago
@Akhotnik ya I don't care if I get a certificate saying what I learned. I would go to learn something for myself.
gmsquared 1 month ago
@Akhotnik I have a JD and an LLM. I mainly 'drifted' into it. But I'm amazed that people have this crazy idea that ONLY college makes you educated. If yoj have the attitude of wanting to learn, you can easily educate yourself. Forget the richest 400. I can confirm I have met dozens of highly educated, super interesting and often very successful people (clients) who have no real education. e.g. The No. 2 at Samsung (CI Ryu) dropped out 9th grade and one of the smartest pple ever
BlackLabelSlushie 1 month ago
@Akhotnik “If you want to get laid, go to college. If you want an education, go to the library.”- Frank Zappa
neversawthatcoming 1 month ago 2
if you have goals and ambitions in life you need a college degree
grnbbllntrck 1 month ago
@grnbbllntrck You are a fucking moron. Your goals and ambitions are as limited as your grammatical skills.
SeriouslyPissedOff 1 month ago
@SeriouslyPissedOff hahaha i sense hostility for no reason.... although i'm guessing someone dropped out of college :P
grnbbllntrck 1 month ago
@grnbbllntrck You're damn right. And I'm guessing someone is currently enrolled in college. There's no chance you've already graduated if you're saying that. By the way, I've added a goal and ambition to my life that I would need a college degree for. Kicking your ass. Unless you factor that I want to roll it up and use it as a weapon...on second though. Brb college
SeriouslyPissedOff 1 month ago
Why is higher education in this country solely measured by how much money it returns post-graduation?
loveofphysics 1 month ago 63
@loveofphysics because its expensive as hell
payasoinfeliz 1 month ago
@loveofphysics Because people need to have a good job to pay off the massive amount of debt they'll have after graduating.
SumFreshDkaf 1 month ago
@loveofphysics
Because in 2011 all the information you need is available through the internet and possibly some seminars. When you're going to charge stupid amounts of money for a program. People are going to request a ROI.
gamerfromcanada 1 month ago
@loveofphysics dude knowledge won't get u anywhere if u it doesn't make u money, or get u bitches. who cares if u know when and where david hume was born, in the end its all about the money, the women and for some people power and fame. i don't know why u'd go to college unless u wanted a decent job seriously. its not cheap u know
TheAce1082 1 month ago
@loveofphysics because higher education is way too expensive
Ayohima 1 month ago
@loveofphysics Why would you waste over $100 grand if you weren't going to make it back?
fredwasnothere 1 month ago
@loveofphysics Because money is a measure of the amount of influence and power someone has.
epicmonkey96 1 month ago
@loveofphysics Unfortunately, studying what you want can lead to living in a shitty house/neighborhood. :/ I definitely agree with you though it sucks that money has to be such a factor.
coolsteven2 1 month ago
@loveofphysics Because if you made just as much or more with just a high school degree there would be no point in going to college.
HaysuusisaG 1 month ago
@loveofphysics < well if you have a graduate degree yet you can only work at Walmart, what's the point?
I mean, that doesn't make sense at all.
But to answer your question, the reason why it matters is because money matters, you need money to pay off your bills, student loans, etc. In short, money is everything.
NTtheLion <