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  • just out of interest, what happened with Jace during Kacen's birth? Was she there? how did she go?

  • Everyone made her go upstairs to her room... My moaning might have scared her (or so I was told, haha) At one point she got SUPER FUSSY, I wanted out of the birth pool to comfort her, but they told me not to focus on this baby and I couldn't all I could do was focus on how I wanted to make her better... so everyone asked Lisa (my friend) to take Jace for a car ride, which that she screamed the entire way of minus the last second of them pulling back up to the house.

  • I think by the time they got back or directly after (b/c not once did I see her) I was in the bedroom pushing... I remember asking about her and they said she was on the couch w/ Lisa watching TV falling asleep... at this point I was YELLING, and she wasn't the slightest bit of phased by it come to find out. Perhaps all that yelling I do at her Daddy every day helped, haha j/k ;)

  • cool, ty Lucy :D (we planned to have my son at my daughters birth it he was home but as it turned out it was a kindergarten day, so my step dad took him to childcare at about 7am (after I had been in early labour for a few hours) and we picked him up at about 5 (4 hours PP)

    LOL at the yelling at Joel helping

  • When you have a hospital birth do they take the baby away from you? If they do is there a time limit on how long they keep the baby before they give the baby back? Why is it good to wait for the cord to quit beating before you cut it?

  • Yes, My hospitals "claimed" they had to, as for the newborn exam, and she had to go to the nursery while I got cleaned up, so she could get cleaned up and have a few test done to make sure everything was okay but then she was brought back. They tried to take her again for 2 other test during our 2 day stay but I put my foot down and said hell no, so they came to my room and did them. She roomed in w/ me. Never stayed in the nursery. When she wasn't next 2 me (test/bath) my husband was w/ her.

  • I CANNOT believe the hospital let you go two days without eating.. that's just wrong! I would go with home birth if I went throught that too!

  • i think u should do the "family member" thing to break her from you n ur hubby lil by lil and not have her present during the birth but at a fam or friends house so that ur husband can be there all for you and you should also have only you and ur husband for the birth and go with the intimite thing u wer thinking =} thats my advice to you =] hope i helped

    *good luck*

    ♥mel bel♥

  • Personally, I like your hair short! It's really cute! But, I do see your point about the ponytail thing. Been there, done that. But, anyways, it's cute and don't let other people's criticism get you down!

  • what is a cheese straightner?

  • It's a Chi not cheese

  • oh ahahah lol I swear it sounded like you said cheese lol NEVER MIND hehe

  • You could prolly take ur daughter to a daycare for maybe 2 hrs a day and break her into getting to be social. That way when u give her to a family member or friend during ur birth, u might not have a problem. She will deff. cry for about a week for like 15 mins, but then she'll get used to the kids around her...

    Hope this helps.

    Its what we did with our sis.

    XOXOX

    JULIE

  • Today she let our friend Lisa hold her (during pics) for like an house and didn't fuss until she got sleepy and wanted her Daddy and Daddy ONLy, not even me. We were all UTTERLY SHOCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!! So we might have a solution after all!!!!!!! :)

  • Thats great!!

  • how old are you?

  • 25 yrs

  • That is like the exact same thing as me my hair is naturally like wavy and i WILL NOT leave the house looking likr that i look terrible!

  • Have you thought about looking for a doula to care for you while you are in labour? I'm sure you can find one in training, or nearly certified that can reduce their fee :)

    Best of luck.

  • i think your hair looks great, and as a hair stylist, you have an amazing hair cut for your face. you look great!

  • Yes it does. It's funny because when my husband talks about an old memory from high school, he always says oh wait a minute you where there for that. lol It's cute.

    But I feel lucky to have the opportunity to be in a good strong marriage with no huge problem that we can't work out of. So good to meet another young couple that have been with each other from teen to adult and even after kids still be so in love!  ~Heaven~

    It's funny to cause with the kids it makes me feel so old.

  • Hello.

    I have been watching your video's for some time now. I wish that I had recorded all of my pregnancies like you have. You look really great by the way! I have three kids. My daughter is 7 soon to be 8, then there's my son who is 5, and then the baby who is 19 months old soon to be 2. I have been with my husband since I was 16 as well and where still going strong. Takes a some work but it's worth it! It will be 10 yrs in October!!

    Can hardly wait till you "pop" lol.

  • How wonderful! It is 9 years for us this year. we won't hit the bit 10 yr Anny till next year. A decade, can u believe it? Seems like such a long time when u were only 16 when ya'll meet uh?

  • you have lovely hair maybe you could try to sweep alllll your hair back into a light tail and grip loose bits in maybe ? unless it's too short i know the feeling haha and all my friends have had the bob cut and say exactly the same lol

  • best thing to do for jacelyn is get her used to new ppl. she is in stranger anxiety phase. best way I've learned is try & get her a babysitter who is young and really loves kids (around 17-19). Start by just going to the grocery store for 45 minutes a few times. then progress to over an hour. then get another babysitter & do the same thing. that way she is used to being gone without, a new person, and can start to get rid of that anxiety. this will also help her when she's in that clingy phase

  • i totaly agree you need to work her into it befor you have the baby !!

  • She is old enough for it to effect her.

    Psychologically, it could have many different effects on her.

  • I'm so excited to see someone else around my age doing a homebirth! My husband and I are so excited about ours! It sounds like our ''birth plan'' is the same! This is our first baby tho, so I bet I will be in longer labor than you but who knows. Good luck to you and thanks for all the helpful videos!~Jess

  • I think its awesome that your having a home/water birth. I think Jacelyn is going to have to grow out of that phase herself. If you try a lot of those strategies that will make her cry, then hello tantrums,lol. I understand about the whole intimate birth. Did your MIL want to be ther when you had Jace? Your absolutely right, Your body will tell you whats best.

  • Another great thing I have seen done and have tried myself is to provide your child with a photo of you and your husband. (maybe two, one for each hand!) Children this age, as I'm sure you know, love to carry things around. Jacelyn will feel comforted being able to see you even when you are not there. If you really want to get into it, make her a book she could read with a caregiver. :-) Hope that helps! Great videos!

  • I can't help but to comment on the issue of separation. I am a student currently studying early childhood and working with young children. I cant tell you how often this topic comes up. Someone already said that you should ease Jace into being with someone else. They are right on. Studies show that if you keep a positive attitude around whomever will be with Jace, she will be more likely to go to them with little anxiety. (harder than it sounds, I know) . . .

  • i love u're videos!

    i like u're hair lol!

    what are u going

    to not geet pregnat again?

  • Tell your little man, that if it's okay with him he could always come during the night when his sister is sleeping lol. I'll keep you in my prayers. and don't forget things that we worry about often seem to work themselves out.

  • Do you have a close friend close by? If so you can have them come over and play with jace as much as possible with you in the room at first, then as she gets use to that person walk out of the room starting in small time frames, Then working up to longer. Then when it's time to have baby boy, That person can come over and be in whatever room she plays with Jace in. That would give Jace something to do even if it's just a few min's here and there during the labor.

  • I think if you are at home your daughter will be more comfortable. Plus in 3 months time she might grow more independent ( my daughter has in the last 2 months ) but anyway, I am hoping to have the same type of birth experience with our next baby.

    Oh by the way, I think your hair looks good long or short ! but I know what you mean about not leaving the house without your hair straightened. I am the sam way ! My hair used to be long, then I cut it and now I am trying to grow it back out again lol

  • ... I literally did NOT sleep the whole night, and I would not let the nurses take my baby to the nursery, I wanted her with me at all times. So it was pretty rough and I never want to go through that again ! lol That is a big reason why I decided a home birth this time would be the best thing for me and my family. ...

  • Your Birth plan sounds so much like mine ! My kids are very attached to us because we don't have much family around either and they are always with us so I worry about the same thing. When I had my daughter and my mom had to take my son for the night (he was 2 years old ) he through a huge fit for her and would not sleep ! So the next night she gave up and he had to stay in the hospital room with us. My hubby ended up sleeping on the floor because my son would sleep no where else. continued.....

  • Well my daughter has been around my mom since she was a new born so she loves her. She was scared of my dad at first but after a few visits she got use to him. I would say who ever is going to watch her get her familiar with them.

  • do you have a myspace?

  • I think your hair is CUTE short! I like it both short and long! You can get away with both! LOL I always like mine a little shorter, because when it's long all i do is pull it back anyways, so i just get it shorter! LOL That is funny my mom was holding one leg, and my husband was holding the other! HAHA! I could NEVER have my in laws or anyone in there! LOL

  • Sounds like an excellent birth plan! We had 3 homebirths similar to what you described and I wouldn't do it any other way. When I hear some women tell t heir hospital birth experience (even those who were happy with it), I can't help but think, wow, how different, and how much they're missing.

  • See, that is how my daughter does, too. She will hurt herself or the one holding her if she can't be with me. When I was working she would stay with my in-laws, but since I quit, they have kinda stopped coming around (they only live 5 mins away), and she only sees them if we go to them. And when we do, she acts that way. She is not so bad with my dad in law, but with my MIL, she is awful. I think part of it is because she senses that she doesn't really want much to do w/ her anymore

  • Just try it with your mom or close friends right now and no matter how much she cries just let he she will get over it and it won't hurt her. She has learned that when she cries you guys will give in. Just be firm with ehr and she will be fine.

  • My Mom isn't around enough to do that, she lives too far away, and they never drive up here, the only time they see her is when we drive down to them. Perhaps that is way she fears them?

  • You absolutely have to force your daughter to stay with other people and allow other people to hold her despite her crying and throwing fits. My daughter was the same way and my doctor told me it's because I have allowed her to be that way by taking her back from people when she starts crying. If you start now in three months she will be a lot better with it by then.

  • Except for the fact that my daughter will wiggle her way free by slinging her arms and hurting who ever is holding her, and cry so hard she bust vessels in her eyes.... So we were told to not do that. It poses too much of a health threat to her. And the tears/cries only gets worse w/ time, not better.

  • Hi Lucy! I have been watching your vids for a while now, but just now got around to commenting. First, I wanted to say that you and your family are so inspiring. I love little Jace! I also wanted to say that my daughter is the same way, and she is almost 3 now. She was fine when I worked, but since quitting my job 8 months ago, she is ultra clingy. I wish I had an answer, but sadly I am still trying to figure that one out myself. Good luck to you, and God bless!

  • Hi Lucy, I watch your videos regularly cause they're very interesting and ... well...real. I'm not pregnant and don't plan to get pregnant any time soon, I'm just interested in the topic as a woman that plans to have babies one day. The whole home-water birth sounds real comfy and intimate (and you mentioned that intimacy is very important to you), but since you are having a photographer, a camera person,..can it really be that intimate? or will it be intimate at all??? Best wishes :)

  • Yes, they actually stay in the shadows, in the background, at a distance. I had basically the same at my birth w/ my daughter, and I never once saw the camera...

  • Maybe try to hire a nanny or someone you would want to be there to help with Jacelyn during the birth, but do it now so Jacelyn can get used to him/her. Have the nanny (or sitter, whatever) come over for a few hours once a week and just hang out and help out, or 1 hour a few days a week. That way Jacelyn is used to him/her by the time the birth comes around. That could get kind of expensive, so maybe plan on having your mom or mother-in-law there just to help with Jacelyn. Just a thought! ;)

  • Water birth is wonderful, I had one with my 3rd baby, it is so much calmer, I had my husband and a friend(a massage therapist) massage my back and that helped with pain relief and that helped a LOT afterwards I wasn't nearly as achey post partum as I was with my other three. Good luck with it all, I love your videos these are going to be wonderful for your children when they are older, you have their (and your) journey so well documented :)

  • Hey Lucy, this is Sabrina(from facebook we chatted on there not to long ago) anyways I have videos now..so hope you check em out! Well I only have one right now, but yea. They are mainly about TTC and my past with eating disorder. Just thought Id tell ya :-) Id love to hear your responses to my TTC vids especially, since you were on the pill and all and it messed up your cycles and what not.

  • well i know with my nephew we would set him somewhere and if he threw a fit we would walk away it is hard at first but hey it paid off. and i would let your mom and or joel's mom be there so they can somewhat attend to jace needs and he can be with you if you do this method then by the birth she wont be a persistent the less temper the better lol

  • have you thought about a doula to help you out during labor? it wouldnt take the place of your husband but it would allow him to be two places at once so to speak :)

  • Yes, but thats just more money, haha. We're already going to have a house full w/ 2 midwives, a birthing photographer, as well as a camcorder person, much less to add a doula, and or my mom and MIL, lol. Too much estrogen! I think I would give it mroe thought if I knew someone personally who had a doula and suggested it, could talk to me about the exp and how it was worth it. I'm not even sure what one would even cost.

  • I think what you are doing is great!!!!!!!! we are made to do this, but I think for myself I could not but then again am not prego yet so we shall see, I am a whimp lol

  • I think it's great that you're going to do a homebirth. Your ideas about birth are very similar to my own, so it's refreshing to hear from someone who is not so stuck on being in a hospital, unless absolutely necessary. I hope your plan goes out the way that you want it to! :)

  • you want your daughter and husband with you during delivery. who ever takes care of her during labor. have them come before hand so jacelyn can be comfortable with them while you are in labor. start an hour a day if jacelyn has a lot of trouble trusting people. just start like that and adding more everytime. You never know how long is labor. "i don't know if i made myself clear."

  • I feel the same way about our two boys, 2 and 4years old. My 2 year old is 100% mommas boy. And we are having a homebirth as well with this baby which happens to be our last also since this one is a girl! I am having mixed emotions about who is going to be there as well. I dont think it would be a good thing for us if my husbands mom or mine were there only because they are not really 100% towards the birth that I want!

  • Love the sound of ur birth plan, cant wait to see the vid about it in a few months time! RE: ur hair... I think its pretty rude people r saying u looked better with longn hair!!! Yeah, long hair looked good but so does the short!!! Whose business is it anyway???

    And, totally off topic- i was just wondering how long it takes for your nearly 10min videos to upload?

  • Hey I'm heading for my PHD in Child Psychology and she is acting the way she should for her age range. Some act out more than others. Jacelyn just happens to be that type. Around 12 months children worry about object permanace typically of the mother figure. Tell her that you will come back when you leave then she will learn that. This phase can last for 1-4 months. Do a play dates and tell her you will be back later leave her for an hour and come back her crying is ok. Hopefully this will help.

  • I can't believe anyone would tell you that you looked *better* with long hair! We're lucky you're as open as you have been about your life. I think your long hair was adorable and you rock the bob 'do you've had going on too. I always think the people who have the best styles are the ones who aren't afraid to try something different every now and then, ya know? Its grows back! Oh, and you seem a lot less annoyed now that your'e not swatting your bangs out of your face all the time too!

  • After this video I can not wait to see the birth video it sounds like it's going to be very beautiful and inspirational!!

  • well my son was the same age as jace will be when my daughter was born. we tried to have him in the room with us and he was just so scared. my boyfriend had to leave to take him somewhere and ended up missing my daughter being born. i did have my mother their but i was upset that he missed it. So i would def. have someone there that can help with jacelyn.

  • Girl you should bring out those waves just some gel and ant-frizz serum will do you good.

  • I've tried....it's a no-go. lol I have a fro. A wavy fro.

  • well it's whatever works for you :)

  • im not syaing you have to do it but what i think you should do if you can is get your mom or loels mom to stay with your guys for a while so that jace can get used to that person that way she can stay with them while your giving birth idk just a thought becasue if you dont introduce her to them soon she will freak ....i love your bith plan

  • I wish that was an option, BUT my mother had told us she would be here to help when Jace was born and flaked out last minute and left us hanging. We asked my mother in law if she could with no notice and luckily she dropped everything to come stay 3 days with us. She works n can't afford to take off more than that, my mom doesnt work but is too concerned with her own life currently, and would never stay with us.... she would do a hotel which is pointless....

  • As for the problem of Jacelyn's being too clingy... I had a cousin whose daughter was exactly the same. Then, they figured out that using music to distract their daughter into interacting with others (aunties, cousins etc) helped, as she was too busy dancing and singing to notice mummy had left the room. It took a couple of weeks but eventually she did gain some ability to be away from mummy for more than 10 minutes.

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  • Oh my gosh, 2 days without food? That's insane. I think I'm gonna have to sneak some snacks into the hospital - I would get VERY angry if I they were to deprive me of food. Apparently, dates help. This was a cool video, one of your most useful (for me). It really puts me at ease to hear of such a relaxed approach with you going with your instincts - makes me not worry about planning out every single second of my own birth plan.. I was starting to freak myself out. Thanks for a fab video!

  • Hospitals do it in fear of a c-section, and fluids getting in ur lungs or something like that, so that is their reasoning, but they area also so quick to do a c-section, so... go figure. Well I guess I just really trust the fact us woman have been doing this for ever, God personally designed our bodies to birth and feed our offspring, and I trust and have all faith in him that he'll guide me through what is natural and expected to be.

  • Lucy you look gorgeous no matter what length your hair is .. So don't listen to people yammering.

    I cut all my hair off too and its WAY harder to take care of. I cant wait till I can have a ponytail again. Ponytails make like so much easier.

    As for Jace being super clingy with you and your husband... I think its a phase that she will just have to grow out of herself. She loves and you trusts you both so that's why she is so clingy.

    PS .. your birth plan sounds perfect.

    Love ya

    Danielle

  • I love all of your videos, I watch a lot of them regularly. I think it's awesome that you keep track of everything on here. I'm in my 3rd pregnancy, week 12, and I have a lot going on right now as well. It's great that you guys are getting your boy! My husband and I are hoping for a boy since we have girls already.

    Anyways, take care and keep up the good work. :)

  • I know what you mean about not being able to eat while in labor...It's not easy, especially with a long labor! About Jace, the only suggestion I can give to get her used to other people caring for her is to...well...have other people care for her once in a while. :) Like maybe she could stay with relatives for an hour a week or something? Just to accustom her to the idea of being cared for by someone else. Might be hard in the beginning, but she'd get used to it before too long.

  • They all live 3-4 hrs away, and I can't even go to the bathroom w/ out being directly next to me, in our own home, w/ out her freaking out. She stands at the door, bangs on it, yells, screams, and what not. She gets so worked up, she has actually busted a blood vessel in her eyes a few times... She's hurt her self other ways as well. I'll even talk to her through the door, nothing seems to help.

  • Hmm...well her hurting herself is definitely not good! The only other thing I can think of is finding a child care environment you could work her into...like at first you'd go there with her for 1/2 an hour and play with her there so she gets used to the place, then try stepping out the door while she's playing, then when she gets more comfortable eventually leave her for 15 mins or something, and keep working up slowly. There's a daycare here that charges $5 an hour per kid.

  • There was ONE TIME, I had Lisa & her 2 kids over, Nathan who is I think 3 or 4 yrs old, that Jacelyn LOVES, well I had to shower, so I hopped in, left the bathroom door open, but she only came to check in on me once, other than that, she played nice in the living room w/ Nathan/Lisa/Victoria w/ out making a fuss, but I think it was simply b/c she knew she had access to me, if she needed to see me. So I've thought about asking Lisa/Nathan to come over, but I'm not sure that is a good atmosphere

  • Darn character limit! LOL. As for the daycare thing, the only drawback is that if you go into labor at night, the place may not be open...but maybe just by having the experiences there, she'll be more amenable to having others take care of her besides you and Joel so you could have someone at your home to help out with her. Another option is hiring a doula to support you while Joel is taking care of Jace. GL with whatever you choose!

  • For her son, and the age he is at.... She's fine when there are other kids around, it's adults she freaks out about though.

  • I really like how you have your plan made out. You have a good head on your shoulders! I'm so excited for you! I bet Jacelyn will love being a big sister =]

  • Lucy, you didn't have an epidural with your daughter, right? All natural?

  • yaya first to comment and yeah im ot pregnant but still yeah that seems like it would help

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