@CUALL8R I don't recall the inscription verbatim right now, but it was given as a gift to a then-young officer on December 24th, 1921. Such gifts of dueling swords were very common.
@CUALL8R - My grandfather found the sword, pistol and helmet in a bombed out building in Aachen, Belgium, in November of '44. I believe I may have misspoken during the video.
@Magixsable Two separate collectors, who the video, told me it was a deuling foil of the type awarded to German officers upon receiving their first commission up until the end of WWI. It then continued on in relative secret. The sword bears an inscription, dated December 23rd, 1921, that is from a loving family (lady?) to a young officer upon receiving his commission. It is in German, and references a German city.
You're right. After making this video some other responders put me on to some guys who are experts in military swords. One of them told me that this was a dueling club sword, and that the design on the basket was the emblem of the club, which *may* still exist. Haven't found it yet, though the inscription on the emblem has helped somewhat (it was a Christmas Eve gift). Thanks for commenting.
may it is not the Emblem of a club but of a fraternity which belongs to a University. Modern academic fencing, the "mensur," is neither a duel nor a sport. It is a traditional way of training and educating character and personality; thus, in a mensur bout, there is neither winner nor loser. In comparison to sport fencing, the participants stand their ground at a fixed distance.
The scar resulting from a hit is called a "smite" (German Schmiss), and was seen as a badge of honour, especially in the second half of the 19th century and the first half of the 20th. Today it is not easy for an outsider to identify mensur scars due to better medical treatment.
@robtran If you still dont know what the sword's inscription says,then maybe you should take it to Google Translate and translate the words and see what they say.
sad to say...my mothers maiden name is Schwerdtfeger.. how scary is that? While my dad's side of the family fought in the war for the usa..my moms side was buried up in a hole hiding from my dads side.. hooked up in the usa 30 years later... scary, it really IS a melting pot.. I am the end result... a blonde haired green eyed coon-ass from texas!
Well...I hope my grandfather didn't do anything to frighten your mom's side of your family. WWII was strange in that way. For example, my grandfather got to be friends with a German P.O.W. named Walter Kracow who had been born in Alsaice-Lorraine and could speak French (my family is French-Canadian). Walter had been a shipwright before being drafted, and had worked on the Bismarck. He gave my grandfather a bent rivet, but unfortunately my late Uncle Kenny lost it.
walther ppk's were also used by German officers, but nice sword!
make sure you take care of that, blades are going for big bucks these days and even more in the future, hold on to it. dont ever sell it or you will regret it for the rest of your life
as far as i know, this is a ceremonial university students sword. students use it to hit each other with it. the bell or how you call it, is that large because you cover your face with it. if you received a hit, the fight was over. scars received in a fight were a sign of honour. in germany we call student connections doing this " schlagende verbindung".
Thanks for this. I was told by a researcher I contacted that it was a "German dueling club sword", and that the design on the "basket" was probably the insignia of the club. Does that sound about right to you? A German friend of mine also mentioned the scar, which was/is supposedly deliberate and is now banned in Germany. I immediately thought of the evil German French Foreign Legion officer in Beau Geste.
My dad is into swords and guns too, but he hasn't got any items that are as old as those you have. Must be awesome to hold a piece of history like that in your hands! I'm really curious about what is written there on the sword! If you like you can write it to me, I'll be happy to translate it for you into English!^^LPX
Thanks for the sweet offer, but I've already managed to translate the parts that are still legible. The first part is illegible, the last part reads "To Werner Bruckhaus for your constant love - Tubingen, Christmas Eve, 1921" Oh and it turns out that it's a German *dueling* sword, not a military sword. I was told that the basket design might the emblem of dueling club still in existence. I'm trying to track it down.
I believe what you were calling a "pommel" is actually a basket style cross-piece. The pommel of the sword is usually a counter weight placed on the end of the hilt for balance. also, touching a blade with your fingers w/o wiping it down after may damage it further and cause more rust, so....yea watch that.
Sweet video response! Nice piece, also. I would recommend the following :
A. Type the inscription into an english to german translator such as the one at freetranslation(dot)com and perhaps you'll find an avenue of further researching the piece, and
yes. it must be. I forget which one supplanted the other. Both beautiful guns though, the Luger & P38.... My uncle has a fine example of a Luger with the gauged slot in the grip that indicates how many rounds you have left. VERY RARE!
Hi there. I have been a Military Collector for over 25 year's. I have never seen one of these Lugers. They are very rare. Col.Powell of the U.S. Army was the first to design the open window grip and the special mag. The cartridge counter was manufactured by DWM and is referred to as the 1902 "Fat Barrel 4" Luger. It was issued circa 1903 to the U.S. troops to test the operation of the Luger in military training. It was not accepted due to its small caliber. Only 50 were ever made. Take care V V
Only the swordpoint is dangerous, the blade couldn't slice butter. Besides, I keep it in storage not in my home. I don't want it stolen. Who knows the value of the thing??
That's so super-special-awesome! It'd be really interesting to find out what the inscription says... Geeze, you find a sword in your storage, I find a dancing Santa in mine... -_-'
If it was made in 1922 then its not Prussian. By 1922, the prussian states were long amalgamated into the German Empire and after WW1, the Weimar Republic. Don't worry though, it means its even more valuable and even rarer as the German Army was limited to just 100,000 men after 1918 up until Hitler came to power in 1933.
I do like the sword. Did you ever find out any history on it?
CUALL8R 6 months ago
@CUALL8R I don't recall the inscription verbatim right now, but it was given as a gift to a then-young officer on December 24th, 1921. Such gifts of dueling swords were very common.
robtran 6 months ago
Your grandfather wouldn't have found it in 1944. The USA didn't enter Germany until 1945
CUALL8R 6 months ago
@CUALL8R - My grandfather found the sword, pistol and helmet in a bombed out building in Aachen, Belgium, in November of '44. I believe I may have misspoken during the video.
robtran 6 months ago
btw that is kinda wrong pronounciation for prussian. you would actually proounce the u with a double'oo' sound.
TheGorale97 7 months ago
I'm German and I can tell you that the sword is not a German officer's sword but it is cool; D
Magixsable 1 year ago
@Magixsable Two separate collectors, who the video, told me it was a deuling foil of the type awarded to German officers upon receiving their first commission up until the end of WWI. It then continued on in relative secret. The sword bears an inscription, dated December 23rd, 1921, that is from a loving family (lady?) to a young officer upon receiving his commission. It is in German, and references a German city.
robtran 8 months ago
@robtran oops yes this can be I thought you mean the second world war
Magixsable 8 months ago
@Magixsable You can´t even tell him if it´s real or not!
You don´t know!
Did you build all the german swords?
Restart515 4 months ago
ich bin deutsch und ich kann dir sagen dass das schwert kein deutsches Officer's schwert ist aber es is cool;D
Magixsable 1 year ago
it was the P38!!! i was there :)
Rawego 1 year ago
1 september is my birthday date :) 8:30 :P
krzysiooniejadek 1 year ago
what did your grandfather serve in airbourne,seabourne(army)
Eshayzbra96 1 year ago
u mean a wather p38
TheNERFDUDE97 1 year ago
he did it just for vieuws i think man what a dumnb ass
bartyboy1010 1 year ago
can you say the inscription for me? i can translate it for you :)
xbeast133 1 year ago
My grandfather has a Walther P-38 taken off a "routed" nazi officer. After all this time he only fired 5 bullets
SPAZZO186 1 year ago
walther p38 is the other pistol's name
stukaforce 1 year ago
you were right the first time a walther ppk is 100% german NOT british
shwank1968 2 years ago
This is a German sword not Prussian. In 1922 Prussia no longer was a State.
j2henning 2 years ago
my greatgrandad fought in burma and he took a violin of a dead jap dunno what happened to it....
jaketaylor15 2 years ago
my great grandpa had an american browning 9mm pistol he also took from a group of american pows
fuckmyassgirl 2 years ago
post the sentences from the sword....i can translate it ;D
5*
EvilHappyMeal68 2 years ago
Have a great labour day?!?
Fuck you, you Commie bastard you!
AndreHiltre 2 years ago
That's not a German officers sword. It's a fencing foil.
stuka52 2 years ago
You're right. After making this video some other responders put me on to some guys who are experts in military swords. One of them told me that this was a dueling club sword, and that the design on the basket was the emblem of the club, which *may* still exist. Haven't found it yet, though the inscription on the emblem has helped somewhat (it was a Christmas Eve gift). Thanks for commenting.
robtran 2 years ago
it´s from a duelling student corporation.
may it is not the Emblem of a club but of a fraternity which belongs to a University. Modern academic fencing, the "mensur," is neither a duel nor a sport. It is a traditional way of training and educating character and personality; thus, in a mensur bout, there is neither winner nor loser. In comparison to sport fencing, the participants stand their ground at a fixed distance.
ozeangruen 2 years ago
The scar resulting from a hit is called a "smite" (German Schmiss), and was seen as a badge of honour, especially in the second half of the 19th century and the first half of the 20th. Today it is not easy for an outsider to identify mensur scars due to better medical treatment.
ozeangruen 2 years ago
@robtran If you still dont know what the sword's inscription says,then maybe you should take it to Google Translate and translate the words and see what they say.
Lazaro305201 1 year ago
YOUR MUM FENCES SOIL
joelgallagher12 2 years ago
the name was walther p38 i belive i could be wrong
xTHEREDHATx 2 years ago
LEARN EDITING
Broommaster2000 2 years ago
the "pith" helmet is called a picklehaube
imamazingohya 2 years ago
Cool video thanks for sharing.
jimjam69 2 years ago
You're most welcome!!
robtran 2 years ago
sad to say...my mothers maiden name is Schwerdtfeger.. how scary is that? While my dad's side of the family fought in the war for the usa..my moms side was buried up in a hole hiding from my dads side.. hooked up in the usa 30 years later... scary, it really IS a melting pot.. I am the end result... a blonde haired green eyed coon-ass from texas!
sheri226 2 years ago
Well...I hope my grandfather didn't do anything to frighten your mom's side of your family. WWII was strange in that way. For example, my grandfather got to be friends with a German P.O.W. named Walter Kracow who had been born in Alsaice-Lorraine and could speak French (my family is French-Canadian). Walter had been a shipwright before being drafted, and had worked on the Bismarck. He gave my grandfather a bent rivet, but unfortunately my late Uncle Kenny lost it.
robtran 2 years ago
you may have been thinking of walther p-38, thats what one of my grandpas got
navycomand 3 years ago
I think that's perhaps correct. Thanks!
robtran 3 years ago
is the mag infront of the trigger? it might be a c96, my favorite german handgun.
shorty962 2 years ago
heil from germany!!!
fragmentsofdead 3 years ago
I can read german so just right me what it says and I will translate it for you
cortese98 3 years ago
Hey, thanks! I knew it was a student's dueling sword, now I know it's name!
robtran 3 years ago
walther ppk's were also used by German officers, but nice sword!
make sure you take care of that, blades are going for big bucks these days and even more in the future, hold on to it. dont ever sell it or you will regret it for the rest of your life
Spion23 3 years ago
Thanks for the kind words!
robtran 3 years ago
wow pretty impressive im pretty sure the sidearm your thinking of was called the Walther P38 anyways nice vid thanks for posting
DYNASTYXLEGION 3 years ago
Thanks!
robtran 3 years ago
i love it how he allways sais that at the end of his videos
uzbek95 3 years ago
pommel, not pummel. and that would be the guard, the pommel's at the bottom. but, cool video, and cool sword! :)
musicalpooo 3 years ago
Thanks for the corrections, and your kind remarks!
robtran 3 years ago
hi there,
as far as i know, this is a ceremonial university students sword. students use it to hit each other with it. the bell or how you call it, is that large because you cover your face with it. if you received a hit, the fight was over. scars received in a fight were a sign of honour. in germany we call student connections doing this " schlagende verbindung".
morgenbier 3 years ago
Thanks for this. I was told by a researcher I contacted that it was a "German dueling club sword", and that the design on the "basket" was probably the insignia of the club. Does that sound about right to you? A German friend of mine also mentioned the scar, which was/is supposedly deliberate and is now banned in Germany. I immediately thought of the evil German French Foreign Legion officer in Beau Geste.
robtran 3 years ago
My dad is into swords and guns too, but he hasn't got any items that are as old as those you have. Must be awesome to hold a piece of history like that in your hands! I'm really curious about what is written there on the sword! If you like you can write it to me, I'll be happy to translate it for you into English!^^LPX
MeetTheEnd 3 years ago
Thanks for the sweet offer, but I've already managed to translate the parts that are still legible. The first part is illegible, the last part reads "To Werner Bruckhaus for your constant love - Tubingen, Christmas Eve, 1921" Oh and it turns out that it's a German *dueling* sword, not a military sword. I was told that the basket design might the emblem of dueling club still in existence. I'm trying to track it down.
robtran 3 years ago
I believe what you were calling a "pommel" is actually a basket style cross-piece. The pommel of the sword is usually a counter weight placed on the end of the hilt for balance. also, touching a blade with your fingers w/o wiping it down after may damage it further and cause more rust, so....yea watch that.
thebladesman 3 years ago
I stand corrected. Thanks for that, and for the other information.
robtran 3 years ago
Cool sword!
Zoisitetta 3 years ago
Thanks!
robtran 3 years ago
Sweet video response! Nice piece, also. I would recommend the following :
A. Type the inscription into an english to german translator such as the one at freetranslation(dot)com and perhaps you'll find an avenue of further researching the piece, and
B. Taking it to an appraiser.
Ultranothing 3 years ago
Thanks for the ideas!!
robtran 3 years ago
I could have sworn I said "Walther." Oh well...
robtran 3 years ago
the pistol..., do you mean the p38...?
mercoid 3 years ago
I think that's it, yes.
robtran 3 years ago
yes. it must be. I forget which one supplanted the other. Both beautiful guns though, the Luger & P38.... My uncle has a fine example of a Luger with the gauged slot in the grip that indicates how many rounds you have left. VERY RARE!
mercoid 3 years ago
Hi there. I have been a Military Collector for over 25 year's. I have never seen one of these Lugers. They are very rare. Col.Powell of the U.S. Army was the first to design the open window grip and the special mag. The cartridge counter was manufactured by DWM and is referred to as the 1902 "Fat Barrel 4" Luger. It was issued circa 1903 to the U.S. troops to test the operation of the Luger in military training. It was not accepted due to its small caliber. Only 50 were ever made. Take care V V
fangman666 3 years ago
God forbid anyone that tries to burgle your house with that by your bedside :)
iggy35 3 years ago
Only the swordpoint is dangerous, the blade couldn't slice butter. Besides, I keep it in storage not in my home. I don't want it stolen. Who knows the value of the thing??
robtran 3 years ago
That's so super-special-awesome! It'd be really interesting to find out what the inscription says... Geeze, you find a sword in your storage, I find a dancing Santa in mine... -_-'
VegasLyrics 3 years ago
A dancing Santa? I think you could get people to pay money to see that!
robtran 3 years ago
If it was made in 1922 then its not Prussian. By 1922, the prussian states were long amalgamated into the German Empire and after WW1, the Weimar Republic. Don't worry though, it means its even more valuable and even rarer as the German Army was limited to just 100,000 men after 1918 up until Hitler came to power in 1933.
TheSmiterer 3 years ago
WOW! Thanks for the head's up!!!
robtran 3 years ago
Good to see you back making vids, rob. 5*
sheffieldmvp 3 years ago
Hey thanks, but it hasn't been THAT long, has it?
robtran 3 years ago
That is too friggin' cool! Gorgeous heirloom. Gotta be valuable, too.
allmuppetcaligula 3 years ago
I've been poking around on eBay to find out whether it has any value or not. No luck thus far. Thanks for the kind remarks!
robtran 3 years ago