Starcraft II Battle Report 2 (Part 1)

[0YtsanBlowout0]

I'm so glad the zerg look how they do now, they look ugly in this.

[joshuacmarr]

They sound like they are covering a football game instead of a video game, LOL!

"What a great move by that zerg player, that SCV could have totally blocked that drone from making that hatcher."

[MrBunny115]

Why David Kim has a Dominion Decal? That's op man and, btw nice video, they have changed so many features since now.

[xxkrismagus777xx]

loooool.

[RRadRussian]

Oh, my favorite battler report. It actually exposes that Terrans are somewhat overpowered to Zerg. I play random though.

[spartanpancho117]

omg david kim is awesome o.o

[MrLegoNinja1]

i dont have starcraft 2 I AM SO JEALOUS

[drkpl8]

4:00 dude with these 4 zergligns and 1 queen u would easily fuck that bunker up seriously i never saw ppl caring so much for 4 lings

[MULESLAX]

so the terran acnnot fire behind them while running away, kind of dumb. they should be able to move away from the zerglings and put fire on them at the same time like they could in real life.

[drkpl8]

@MULESLAX so when u say so then the zerglings should be able to attack with their claws while moving around a thor so a thor would be useless against a single ling

and then all units should be able to attack while moving?

marauders also have weapons and could shoot in RL while moving

a colossus could also do.

and a dark templar should be able to cloak and chase down an enemy while moving..

wow ur theory is really good why dont you contact blizzard so they create a starcraft 3 with ur dumb wishes

[MULESLAX]

@drkpl8 exactly my point, this game is far too simplistic and behind the times, you can't order you units to go prone, walk, direct suppressive fire. Adjust any sort of details. You just send your units in to be slaughtered and produce more. The most simplistic RTS structure, there's no innovation.

[drkpl8]

@MULESLAX which comment are u replying now to?

the one with the 4 zerglings or the one with your "realistic" units?

[MULESLAX]

@drkpl8 "My realistic units." It pains me, it pains me.

[giggsth]

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[MarkuzLee]

Lol, the spine crawler looks like a curly hair.

[theabyscries]

"Its looking very bad for the Terra player right now"

Oh Mr Commentator, you seem to have forgotten who the Terran player is

[FlipsGTS]

hehehehe...at one point he was commenting like "atherehecomesohandhewilldefen­dthiswillhedefendohmygodthisis­soexittingbaablablalblaballaaa­aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh...­ok nice move"

I like it when Reporters are getting driven like that ^^

[lucasvandam]

wauw this looks so ugly compared to the recent version. still a good game :P

[peterchamp]

OMFG I cant wait

[mkim1132]

at the end of july... 2010 it will be released.. i s

[snakyfloresty]

CMON SC2 IS ALMOST RELEASE ONLY 3 MORE DAYS!

[Pondsisini]

@snakyfloresty WHAT?

[Xport9]

@snakyfloresty

lol...suuuuuure

[Equinoxofmight]

これわなんですか。

[iNvATcs]

i hope it will get released soon its so amazing =D

[WeirdMinnesotaGuy]

So release it already!!!

[theteobaldo]

mm looks amazing, i hope that come a expansion like the oldtimes when comes the broodwar :D. SC4VER

[DeathByFoodTray]

reapers are midgets....? I've got nothing againts that, but.... still?

[baalthecsar82]

LOL, its like an NFL show but with sc units :o

[Aeregeth]

yeah i know, but if im right there's a guy who said something about WoW... or it was imagination... now i dont know ! =X

[edohofu]

um, this is a Starcraft video

[Chvab0]

no more hydra cheapfor hydra spam? or theres no hydra yer?

[Shazzrah88]

Unbalanced of what? at 08.02 zerg could won attaccking terran base (he had only 4 reapers vs 18 zerglings) , but to make the game (or the demostration in this case) more enjoinable he attacks the stone and so he gives another chance to the terran player.

[MrFrench7777777]

It seems as though terren is unbalanced. Anyways, yeah sc2 takes forever to come out. and YES THERE ARE HYDRALISKS .

[sporeandbryan]

You start off with 6 workers instead of 4 now

[MrSSdeathSS]

however they harvest less than in sc 1

[AQworldsVideos]

But they auto split and they move faster now

[joeypaint]

This reminds me of Red Alert 3. Wow, this game is a must buy for any RTS fan!

[vanuber]

i love starcraffttt

[landfill2]

06:48 to 7:00 is the funniest. the guy is just machine gunning his words. it soounds so funny.

[Trocker07]

LMAO

[landfill2]

wtf? no more hydralisk?

[Akaalis]

I think its best to stick with EA's C&C Line,thier physics engine seems more realistic and practical for some reason,SC 2 seems like the units will still encounter automated-navigational and congestion problems when armies get to a certain size where units are unable to get to thier designated waypoints because of excessive clutter.such chaos creates the need for unecessary micromanagment(extra work).the graphics are obivously more advanced but SC2 still has the same physics engine of SC1

[cody1895]

Lol C&C has been a ruined game ever since EA took over it's franchise. Let's look at the facts to compare why that was such a stupid comment.

Blizzard > EA - Blizzard is 3 times the company EA will ever be when it comes to quality.

SC2 is 10 years in the making.. There's a new C&C every year. RA3 was terrible.. So was the new tiberium wars. Online had many glitches, laggy, and quite unbalanced.

Any Blizzard game will always be better then anything EA will be able to create.

[Crazyfrankie666]

Agreed, I loved the old C&C so much and yet EA fucking ruined it like they ruined the football franchise by buying out the license to it.

[ohnocabbage]

Yes, lol, agreed. Because, Blizzard, unlike EA, puts a lot of time into their games. They don't send out crap games, Blizzard makes sure they are the best they can be.

:)

[rightwingnutjob2]

sry dude but generals will always beat every game blizzard puts out.its just too much fun.i love starcraft but starcraft 2 delayed way too long

[cody1895]

Lol in terms of popularity, balance, pro scene's and on going support to this day for every single one of their games.. Blizzard will ALWAYS be the best PC gaming company with no one to rival them ever. They have the two most popular RTS's ever made under their belt and the most played MMO in the world as well. Not to mention the millions of D1, and D2 fans. EA is shit and will always be shit. They do it for the money.. Blizzard does it cause they love gaming and money.

[joeypaint]

True... So... Blizzard is like the Gibson of the video game company... Well, without the price but guality over number.

[AXPshaggy]

i dont agree. i have been playing C&C since the beginning and it is just unrealistic when it comes to army size. and u talk about congestion with C&C there are so many units that it lags so badly. plus there is more strategy in SC b/c of the unit type quialities. this is a much more well rounded game

[KobaHo]

is this coming out soon???? someone tell me plz!!!

[kikedINhed]

no, if it does come out in 2009 it'll be around xmas. otherwise look towards feb/march of 2010

[yobob62]

near the end of the year

[steebelmoan]

They should stop talking so much...

[heedongchae]

uh, i just dont lyk the commentator

[fireemblemaddict128]

That's because most of the marines and firebats were at one point criminals, and that's just how criminals are portrayed.

scvs are civilians working to help the terran cause, while maintaining their citizen status.

[juggalojosh420]

i love how the terrain underlings such as scvs, marines, and firebats are gungho rednecks ahahahahhaha

[MitchellDaBoss]

These guys talk fucking fast

[Shindrah09]

You wouldn't want to make a living off of commentating a video game?

Even so, this is just a blizzard side project, the two commentators do other things for blizzard.

[wiglaugh]

No, you know, I really wouldn't. I would feel like a worthless piece of garbage every time I went into work.

[Samakain]

better than shoveling crap, but yes it would be a point where you'd have to question the choice that lead you to your job, and why your mother is a drinker.

[HumanTarget420]

Why not? Get paid, talk about what you know. Easy job. Someone jealous.

[wiglaugh]

Yes, easy. So fitting for the times and thought patterns of the current generation. Let's go do a job where we get to be lazy and get paid for it. Awesome. No, I'm really not jealous. This does, in fact, make me sad - but not because I wish I was in their place.

[HumanTarget420]

Jealous

[Skope111]

Why would you be watching a SC2 video if u didnt like video games. Because NO true gamer would consider working for blizzard as a bad thing.

[Dev1nWaDe]

From what I've seen in both korean and regular games of starcraft micro management is more important in the early stages of a match, when neither sides economy is fully functioning and every unit counts, but as the match progresses it becomes important to be good at macro-managing your base and troops to gain the advantage

[Shindrah09]

*micro-managing your base* is also called macro.

In short.

Micro - controlling your army well

Macro - controlling your base well.

[ExcessivePolyphony]

Uh... No. Not in the least bit. Micro is managing each individual unit or building [in this game, using powers], macro is when you manage all buildings to make platoons and you set them to hot keys [so selecting a group of units and making them all use their powers, would be macro. It has nothing to do with buildings vs. units and has nothing to do with how well you do it. You can horribly macro or micro, it's still macro or micro.

[ExcessivePolyphony]

In other words, macro means the managing the big picture and micro means individual unit management.

[ShAd0w456]

: D i do that!

[Shindrah09]

"Micro is managing each individual unit or building, macro is managing all buildings"

That sentence makes zero sense, because when your macroing your selecting buildings individually just very fast...... please explain how to micro a building. In your eyes the only form of macro is managing your army.... and apparently controlling a hot keyed group of say, hydras, is macro to you?

I shouldn't have put "well" in there though, your right about that.

[Shindrah09]

Controlling a group of hydralisks mid battle would be considered micro, just go watch a commentated game. If groups of hydralisks have good positioning and are controlled well the commentator will say "great micro"

[iSOBigD]

Micro means small, Macro means large, now stop arguing. When it comes to graphics, Micro details are things like pores and wrinkles while Macro details are things like muscles and other major, large details.

[ExcessivePolyphony]

It makes perfect sense! I just did it on Supreme Commander! I double click one air factory, thereby selecting them all and I tell all aircraft factories to produce whatever units I chose. For example, 4 selected aircraft factories are told to make 8 Units each totaling 32 units all together. I use a total of 10 mouse clicks instead of 36 [select factories 4 times, click units 32 times[. That's macro.  It makes perfect sense to me, so maybe you might want to reevaluate your shit.

[ExcessivePolyphony]

Another example is when you loop production. I do that a lot in Warzone 2100 and Earth 2150. I'm not showing off. I'm simply stating that Star craft isn't the only RTS in the universe and it just so happens that Micro and Macro apply to more games than just one!  Besides, I can probably multi-select factories in star craft to tell them to mass units. Your definitions were wrong and it'd be in your best interest to accept the mere fact that you do not know what you are talking about.

[Shindrah09]

There is no Multiple Building Selection in Starcraft 1.

[ExcessivePolyphony]

And that game was made 12 years ago. I'm hoping they'll include it into the newer installment coming up. In any case, sorry to get on your case like that. I just don't like people spreading false information about anything and not admitting when they are wrong. I don't think you are the kind of person that I thought you were and I'm sorry for treating you as though you were.

[Shindrah09]

Starcraft 2 will have MBS (Multiple Building Selectoin) and auto-mining (rally pointing to minerals) macro will be much easier.

[ExcessivePolyphony]

That's good to hear. Yeah, I figure, they'll incorporate things into Star Craft 2 and Diablo 3 that they didn't think of back in the day.

[SpokenwerD405]

get a life dude

[ExcessivePolyphony]

Spoken like a true winner...

[MrIdiotPro]

ROFL!!! THEYRE TALKING SO FAST! talk about bein excited

[311it3pwnage]

no offence to the starcraft makers but i think the overlords look like machines now and the creep looks like lava

[cartoonfitta]

I'm gonna buy a whole new computer, if my current one dosen't support this !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm serios

[amm2911]

they HAVE to bring back some of the essential aesthetic features of SC1, such as the wireframe diagrams and the pixelated text. They can still find ways to do that in high res.

[Thunder5299]

micro is very important in warcraft but macro dominates starcraft

[SoManySkinks]

Did you mean mircro both times? Macro isn't THAT great in starcraft.

[cloakster]

Sadly, no... macro usually > micro in the game.

Especially on money maps, especially on Fastest, which is all anybody plays. Sadly.

[purplefuzzythings]

Duhbduh no.

Considering how much the scv could have delayed that hachtery and changed the course of the game, I call bs.

[RustDemon79]

Macro is more important than mirco in Starcraft, hands down.

[CeloxUmbra]

All of south Korea disagrees

[manuelito1233]

I like that response.

Micro is for Red alert 3.

[ff11r]

any south korean would disagree. and you would agree with their disagreement only once you have seen one play. a normal korean school kid sc amateur is a like an instant pro outside korea

[GoatseObama]

I hope it runs well on my computer

[imlagginglikecrazy]

You may need a decent computer to play this but if you adjust the settings then it should run smoothly.

[GoatseObama]

Yeah i know i usally just go on low in most my games to get good fps

[Inev03]

Man . . . They need tasteless to Host for them. These dudes suck.

[Przeciskiwacz]

Comone Blizz make me happy ! Tell as whene finish this great game!

[ShadowFOX4u]

actually the sign up for starcraft beta just started.

go to Blizzard site and read.

[DEUSTCHMAN]

why he dont build siege tanks?, the tanks are the most powerful terran unit

[Przeciskiwacz]

Because it is show game, not real war

[atdsutm]

because the siege tanks in SC 2 has moved up the tier tree and its a bit farther than before.

it takes an armory now to get it, not a factory add-on. or maybe the seige tank may not e effective versus a zerg swarm

not to mention maruaders are a good early units that

[bongopin2]

becoase tanks wont wrk that well on zerg with the movment speed zerg poses if you like my answer then give me thumbs up

[purplefuzzythings]

hey, fuck you! learn english!

[bongopin2]

wth? i do speek english

[Molari]

I think in these battle reports, they avoid showing the higher level bigger stronger units, so when you buy it, you dont know everything already

[timallensux]

LOL they go so excited they r like B LAHLALALAL its not "blah blah blah" b/c they r slurring

[stomachlicker]

im in love : /

[jjpuszczyk]

me too i can't fucking wait

[xBattle4everx]

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[Lucky466]

clan DS in bnet east

[Nimnoms]

Heavy usage of tactics, I can't imagine going that deep into a game.

[twelvehaha]

its the only way to be good. its called micro managment.

in starcraft 1, a good player controlling 4 marines can kill 6 zealots just by out playing the opponent.

most games arent won by mass, most are won by the tiny battles, small groups vs small groups

[Nimnoms]

I just like seeing two huge armies plow into each other as blood spills all over the place.

[inSanity753]

Nobody can kill 6 zealots with 4 marines. Except the zealot-controller is a total idiot.

And actually, macro is more important than micro in StarCraft 1, although I do like micro more.

[GmanGregilla]

Hellion = Vulture + Firebat. There's your Firebat (and, also, Vulture, I suppose).

[undermyscore2006]

it like a vulture carrying a firebat

[lavon9305]

i feel like this should be called starcraft 3

[bejelouse]

You sir, are an idiot. Firebats have not been "replaced" by either of those units. The new Firebat is called a Hellion, which is a ground unit with a splash damage flame thrower.

[orest1s94]

true. however the helion is a completely diffrent unit (with the exception that it's armament is a flamethrower) helion is vehicle,it's faster,it has splash damage and.........something else i forgot T_T

[paradis31ost]

technically the firebat was replaced by the reaver as far as im aware, really though you could make an argument either way, reaver and hellion could both be good for light melee units. i think the reaver is a closer equivalent because they are infantry, they just didnt want to lose the CQ firebat att.

[heyyou7000]

wtf that was a fast queen

[jackasome58]

bankbro you dont know wat ur talken about starcraft 2 is comeing out this year and firebates should so come back

[Gooseheaded]

Firebats were replaced by Reapers, if I'm not wrong.

And, yes, you'r0e right. 2010? Nah. Maybe on, you know, February if something bad happens, but SCII will be probably out by the end of this year.

[lavon9305]

umm sc2 will be out by this fall maybe summer

[cseijif]

but mens, i think that we should make claims to blizzard to restore the firebat, it was the only frontal infantry, that competed with the zerglings and the zealots, with a nurse at the side of the firebat, he could beat 2 zealots, with no problem

[Leathertoast]

For anyone who might know: in the original Starcraft, the grid system was based on diagonal squares, not perpendicular ones. So in Starcraft II, will they still have the diagnonal-based grid system, or will it be like Warcraft III and be perpendicular squares?

[cseijif]

wtf are you talking about, i cant understand a cheaty word youre saying

[Cybrose]

i dont know of any hard data, but from what i can piece together i think they are using a hex based placement system, but your guess is as good as mine on this

[Bankbro]

starcraft 2 isnt coming out till near christmas of 2010

[Commandos12]

terran cannot be defeated!

[cseijif]

im with you men, terran are invencible they cant be defeat, they are soo cool...

[jmattbassplaya90]

Eh, I don`t know about the marauder being too powerful. To me, it seems to make up for the reaper not being too great. I personally miss the firebat which tore through zlots and lings =\

[GmanGregilla]

yo, the Firebat is, more or less, making a reappearance in the Hellion, which is, pretty much, a cross between a Vulture and a Firebat (a light, fast buggy with a flamethrower).

[jmattbassplaya90]

+1

Totally forgot about that one(assuming it`s still in the game).

[GmanGregilla]

Ya, I know what you mean. The Hellion might give off somewhat of an impression that it is like a pansy version of a Vulture, but, personally, I think its a great idea to cross the two units together...Its basically a fast, lightly armored flamethrower. Battle Report 1 features the Hellion fairly predominantly.

[mute220]

If they release them to fast then it wont really have anticipation for a new one but i would like 1 like ever month :D

[jambalolk]

Can't wait!

[nahcey]

6:50 the dude is rapping or something haha

[doorcf]

david kim has won the two battle reports

[telekiller7]

it feels like a watching a sports show. a 1st for me lol

[danberner]

this is nothing compared to those playing in korea. their plays are amazing. this is like starcraft fer noobs.

[Guanchen]

Too bad this game isn't made in korean huh. (sarcastic)

[brzrkr2057]

this reminds me of starship troopers alot.

[DontEatCream]

Terrible, TERRIBLE DAMAGE!

[10dude9]

Still no siege tanks WHAT A LAME!!!:/

[nokiafan4life]

there are seige tanks, ive seen them in the first demos

[SpicyHam]

MSG me a Beta key thx!

[nic0dem8D]

kool

[niharjhatn]

haha a lot made of that zerg move at 2:30... they should see some of the koreans play XD

Looks awesome, can't wait either

[undeadnightorc]

I am so dying to play this game. I would play it in it's current state and just let the upcoming patches fix any balance problems (like the original SC, which was far from balanced for the first 2-3 years). I think Blizzard are over-worried about playtesting before release.

[jujaso]

look like Halo Wars

[Vykrel]

starcraft came first actually

[jujaso]

Sure! is a Joke...I know...Look very nice.

[bobreeda]

i bet it could be taken down easily by a small group of zerglings. they'll fix it up when the game comes out. i think there'll just be one more battle report between the zerg and the protoss, and then the beta, or maybe even the game :D

[cptnemo20kl]

It just seems a little early to get access to a Queen. I remember it being a late-game unit. Hmm...

[kennyfantana]

SC1 and SC2 queens are completely different units.

[GmanGregilla]

Seems like a good idea, to me.

[GreazedKid07]

Im loving the nighthawk special ability when blizzard wanted to make some changes to the ghost aswell but i never seen a terran ghost in action because i heared he does a lot of damage and the special hunter seeker mine is very spine-crawling-ly mad since you can see its chasing after the zerg lol :D

[DementiaHunter]

2 time Matt Cooper loses,first time protoss and now zerg

[kennyfantana]

David KIM.

KIM.

hes korean.

you can't beat koreans unless you're a korean

[JBXyooj]

Haha yeah You don't fuck with the Korean when it comes to Starcraft.

[nintendoboy00]

the hydralisk have melee atk

[mute220]

Wow nice when did they release this

[MaxiMachine]

its not released yet

[LucidDreamingTricks]

It's cool how the zerg creep creeps into existence

[juanmisimo]

Damn Blizz. this is nice.

[Masterbeef57]

love to watch it but i pasued at 00:01 so i could watch on SC2 main website:D