Bach - The Passion According To Saint Matthew - Kommt, ihr Tochter BWV 244

[Ashbringer333]

Maravilhoso, realmente...



[Fredegunda7]

Das ist Fantastishe Herr Bach Master !!!!

[viniciusobomzao]

Bach is best of all musicians

[moltoallegro19]

Bach's music is superior to anything of this world.

[TheMrMaiden]

ISSO SIM QUE É MUSICA BOA DE VERDADE!

NÃO É IGUAL A ESSE LIXO IDIOTA QUE FABRICAM HOJE!

ETERNO BACH!

[clucaspik]

This work sums up 1000 years of musical development - pretty sure he knew.

[Drakopulous]

Bach ~ Björk - in no order

[jhutch1463]

My favorite choral work.

[imaginativelads]

Even if you don't believe in God, you have to admit he exists while you're listening to this. This kind of beauty is highly organized like the architecture from some divine source. I just came out of a nihilistic phase and I feel a liberation through such inspiration. I have made the choice to be a deist because the alternative is too dark and religion requires too little reason. In this music you can hear the voice of a man in love with love.

[HalfBornUnicornFetus]

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[imaginativelads]

@HalfBornUnicornFetus For the record, people should look at this guys post I quote him: Hey fucktard-the Unicorn is a magical creature,and is the Grand Wizzards gift to the choosen American people.Were better then you, and your not born here, your not American.America is for Americans, not just the whole world. My parents, and their parents, and their parents are all born and bred Americans. The Natives (and Im part Native) were not even people!The colonist came and formed the American race.

[imaginativelads]

@HalfBornUnicornFetus By the way, you spelled intellectual wrong. Apparently, you're not that bright. Oh, and you've been turned in for harrassment.

[svenzia]

Bach is the master

[Drakopulous]

@svenzia yup

[dedbusted]

Bach, Mozart, Beethoven ...in that order.

[musicalix]

@dedbusted .... chronological order?

[dedbusted]

@musicalix In order of preference.

[svenzia]

@dedbusted I agree

[manoelantoniojunior]

Bach is my god

[NovemVmbrae666]

the tempo is definitively slowed in this "version." I think that I tend to like the faster tempo more

[bstct]

Tempo is just right! How unusual and refreshing!

[drakadof]

It's wonderful, quiet and warm in the same accuracy as

[derkbosch1960]

GEWOON HEEL MOOI

[Un4givenSacrifices]

i think the most ironic thing about when bach was alive, is that he was rejected by the church musical community he was in. and his work didn't become famous until much later after his death. he doesn't even actually have a know burial site

[monteverdi1567]

@Un4givenSacrifices Actually JS Bach's whereabouts are known-- his remains were reburied after an autopsy shortly after WWII. You may be thinking of Mozart, whose burial site is indeed unknown. Bach was actually quite well known and respected in his lifetime. Like all men, he had his detractors, and his fame was not what it is today of course. His fame actually declined after his death and his music was only studied by other musicians until Mendelssohn's revival of the St Matthew Passion.

[DaruStyx]

great performance though i still prefer Klemperer's

[mlutheri1]

"It is clear that recordings featuring historical instruments have exposed musicians who play modern instruments to the developments in the field [of Baroque performance practice]. Fortunately, Bach's works as performed by Mengelberg and [Karl] Richter are a thing of the past." --Dr. Ton Koopman, conductor of the Amsterdam Baroque Orchestra.

I'm certain Dr. Koopman would add Klemperer to that list.

[3NUNS]

I disagree. Methinks that this performance is terrifically good.

[Hjadlowker]

Wonderful! All the drama and poetry lacking in too many performances nowadays. Long live Richter! Thank you so much... hadn't heard this performance for many many years.

[MarkPMus]

Guessing, that last chord sounds like a tierce de picardy to me. Not sure of spelling, but its when a piece in a minor key finishes on its related (not relative) major chord. So a piece in Bminor would end on B major.

[mozpiano2]

Only Bach could have used a simple Tirce Di Picardy at the end, and turn it into musical glory.

[Jonnybass7]

@MarkPMus It was because of the overtone series.



[MarkPMus]

Bach's stereo positions were fab! Seriously, I think is was called antiphony or something, but hear how sections of the choir have dialogue with each other. I should get to know Bach. I don't like the sound of the harpsichord particularly, which puts me off Baroque music in general, but this is really rich and beautiful. Was also put off by trying to decipher figured bass at college. A pity. I'm missing out.

[mozpiano2]

See! Its not just ABBA, but even Bach played with stereo positions back then!

[wcbroccoli]

"Even Bach"?

Bach didn't invent double chorus, spatial positioning of musical forces, dialogue between choruses or counterpoint.

"Stereo" was invented by audio engineers, not by musicians, in the 20th century to make audio recordings of a live performance sound more like the live performance.

[mozpiano2]

When did I or MarkPMus claim that Bach invented these things?? and Re stereo - if you cannot hear the stereo choral effects you are deaf! (Ditto I never said he invented stereo effects as well, I just said he played with them)

[wcbroccoli]

Stay focused. I never made that claim.

Bach isn't "playing with stereo positions", as you so naively put it.

What you call "stereo positions" is simply the consequence of the use of double chorus, something done long before Bach.

All instruments and voices in ANY piece originate from one position or another.

"Stereo" is not a musical effect. It's simply a recording technology created to make the

recording of a live performance sound like the like performance.

[Strongsad38001]

Once again, none of them said he invented any of that. Stop getting worked up over word choices and ENJOY THE GOD DAMN MUSIC. FUCK. Now you got me all worked up. Fuck you all.

[wcbroccoli]

1) Why are you getting worked up over comments made 8 mos. ago? And how could anyone's comments possibly interfere with anyone's listening experience. Comments are simply comments. No one is obliged to read or respond to them. You are free to listen and ignore the comments.

[wcbroccoli]

2) Once again, I was addressing the comments by MarkPMus and mozpiano2 that Bach was using "stereo positions" or "stereo choral effects". Those comments reflect a misunderstanding of "stereo" itself.

The fact that Bach uses two choruses that dialog --as did composers before after him -- does not constitute "stereo".

Stereo is a technology -- not a compositional technique --- used in recordings to give the ILLUSION of the spatial quality of the ACTUAL performance.

[Strongsad38001]

He was talking about how the different parts of the choir were meant to be placed on opposite sides of the listener to create that question/answer effect. And it's very annoying to scroll down while listening and instead of seeing intelligent conversations about the music, you see some guy freaking about because someone used the wrong word. Get over yourself. You should ask yourself why it was so hard to not start up about "stereo" in the first place.

[wcbroccoli]

Pointing out errors, adding information, or disagreeing is not "freaking out".

Get over yourself.

[Strongsad38001]

Oh. Well then I guess you just normally have this douchebag way of speaking with people.

[vdgplayer]

Why do people who are losing an argument always resort to name calling?

Dude, you are way out of line. You need to get a grip.

wcbroccoli is right on ALL counts.

[Strongsad38001]

Uhh, no? He isn't, actually.

[Strongsad38001]

Wow. Did you even read anything that I ever wrote? I SAID they picked the wrong word but it isn't too hard to understand what they actually meant! Way to tell us all what we already knew.

[vdgplayer]

I read it all.

I doubt they really know the difference between stereo and antiphony.

By their definition of "stereo", a live performance with 2 or more players doing different parts is "playing with stereo effects".

But in correct usage, "stereo" exists only in a recording of music, not in the music itself or in the performance.

[vdgplayer]

Uhh, no? He IS, actually.

[wcbroccoli]

He was NOT talking about how anything was "meant" to be placed.

He doesn't have a clue about what was "meant" or even was is. He talks about "sections of the choir" as though he's unaware that there are 3 choirs.

As usual, the two 4-choirs in this recording are both in FRONT of the listener, not "on opposite sides of the listener", which is you crude way of suggesting this is a surround sound experience.

[Strongsad38001]

Not a surround sound experience, stereo experience, hence their word choice. I meant to say that they were on opposite sides of the stage/organ loft when this was performed so that the question/answer effect was more noticeable.

[MarkPMus]

@wcbroccoli I was being a tad flippant with my first comment, which was why I followed it up with the word "seriously"! I was merely pointing out the marvellous dialogue between sections of the choir. Of course it is not the same as stereo!

[Drakopulous]

@wcbroccoli Two years later but can't resist: yes he did, and so did Buxtehude and others. Not being saucy, just saying for the record.