Source Mapping Tutorial 7 - Stairs and Ladders

[Mrcena111]

how do i see if the map is`nt large as monster?? can i put people to see the diference?

[johnny1bucket]

does anyone know how to make ladders for tf2

[m1up]

You sound like you're dying in this video. Thank you for your last breaths being that of how to make ladders and stairs, I needed the help.

RIP.

[kanimate]

I really like the information he's giving us, it's great. But WTF, ITS SO INTENSE. HIS VOICE. THE MUSIC.... I can hardly bear to watch. sorry.

[Amarthification]

Thanks SO much for this!

[Jepserjeppe]

i cant make my blocks smaller than about a half the size of the Info_player_start block. so my stairs are always gigantic

[xsixstring7]

You are like the Bob Ross of Source Mapping. So calm.

[skinkslayer]

i love the relaxed voice lol, lots of sigh/talking going on.

[dragonorf]

what do i press to copy and paste or cut, instead of going to the top part

[HaxorDude]

stairs r cool, but did you know you can make slopes by blicking on a selected item twice and move the dot?!? O.o oh maybe you have...watever...just sayin

[lineage415]

did someone died? (talking about the music)

[MrTargaszewskii]

@lineage415  i died

[TheNorweagian]

wtf i cant find Func_ladder! help!!

[GodSkull08]

i cant get it to go to 8-16 inchs the smallest i can get it is 64 each help plz

[CameronoremaC]

@GodSkull08 You need to change your grid size. Use your [ & ] keys to decrease and increase the grid size.

[PublicSting]

What is the song playing in the background?

Great tutorial btw, really helped me out

[invadercheeze]

Moonlight Sonata by Beethoven, I think. Wonderful music.

[StoneCOLDcrazy69]

Moonlight sonata by Beethoven

[invadercheeze]

You should narrate nature videos.

[Dimbark]

im a noob mapper, how do I see exactly what the map looks like? I only see little see-thru boxes and lines that are all different colors.

[Vaatrad]

If you can only see the wire-frame of brushes or solid colour instead of texture in the camera view your camera is in the wrong mode. Click on the word 'camera' in the top left of the camera view and select '3D Shaded Textured Polygons' from the menu.

[Dimbark]

Awesome!!! Thanks dude!! I've been trying to do that for months!!! U rock!!! I'm gonna rate and subscribe!

[nthvfs]

man, I can't find the func_ladder, what shoul'd I do? plz help me :D

[Vaatrad]

If you are mapping for CS:S you can just use a brush with the invisible ladder texture on it. If you are mapping for another game say and I'll PM you a link to a tutorial.

[nthvfs]

Oh, sure, I was mapping for hl2-episode two (to use in garry's mod), so I guess this was the problem. So which func or... brush shoul'd I use to make it work?

[vkl12051]

@Vaatrad I am mapping on Source engine 2009 TF2. And I am trying to make stairs but I can't get the inches on 8.0. How can I change this?

[Dimbark]

what entites are u using?

[soldierfronter]

i finished my map how can my clan leader get it in to our server?

[DaBakerOfCake]

It is units and not inches, correct.

[HL2FX]

Units not inches :S

[Janneeh45]

nice vdeos but too hard tutorial for me

[ZabuzaSOULESS]

no XD

[relicright]

do you know how to make a ladder for hl2 dm ladder??

[Vaatrad]

See:

developer . valvesoftware . com / wiki / Working_Ladders.

[Remove the spaces from that to get the link. YouTube doesn't allow links to be posted in comments.]

[Berniebud]

i don't have a func_ladder in my class options. whats going on?

[lksolid]

I don't either???

[Vaatrad]

If you are mapping for CS:S just use a brush with the invisible ladder texture. If not then see: developer . valvesoftware . com / wiki / Working_Ladders.

[magicalmike2]

Perfect for what I was looking for. Been scouring youtube for an hour or two (and getting distracted) for a stair tutorial that featured suspended steps.

I couldn't quite imagine how to do them or make them look natural. Also, the measurements that you give are a REAL help, thanks!

[GeeWizzVideos]

one sounds very delightfully posh

[Rel7eGaDe]

you patched at 3:12 XD

great vids man

great song choices

11/10 !!

[gamefreakydude]

how do you make it that small? the minimum i can make is 64x0

[Vaatrad]

Use the square bracket keys, [ and ], to change the grid scale.

[327JSJ723]

actully no IT WORK THANK YOU BLAD!

[327JSJ723]

omg it wont work the step just comes big

[lolzorone]

There isn't even a func_ladder in my hammer editor :-/

[Vaatrad]

What game are you mapping for?

[ilikerct3]

same i have that problem as well i am maping for hl2 dm

[lolzorone]

dude no offense but i cant listen to this shit, your accent is way too heavy.

[SilvahDot]

Wow thanks a lot man, subscribe and 5/5 :).

[MCsab007]

I like youre voice man XD

best tutorial ever!

[Nauticus89]

"You're" means "you are"

[FeelGoodIncadmin]

How do you extend the stairs diagonally like that? If you did say, sorry, didn't hear you.

[Vaatrad]

Shift+V enters vertex manipulation, is that's what you meant.

[sd006]

What music is that playing in the background? Sounds familiar.

[Vaatrad]

Its Piano Sonata No.14 by Beethoven, a.k.a. the Moonlight Sonata.

[ThatSovietGuyFan]

You sound like some maniac talking to their victims, lol

[billybobjoe198]

24< Is what bots are programmed for.

[casiopilot]

i love ur voice its like the commentery guys voice and thanx a lot man with out u i would have no clue on how to use sdk but now i am geting there thanx

[slmarker]

Your tutorials are the best. Could you please make a tut on radars (mini map) or send me to a tut that is for radars

Thank you

[hannon52]

no hes not whispering these videos are the best on youtube!!!!!!!!great vids man thx

[jontecool92]

Speak up dude, you're whispering in your tutorials

[bigbeartooth]

how u make rain

????

[Vaatrad]

Tut.12.

[ZzColinzZ]

what is the hot key so I can make the diagonal brush? like when you were making the bottom of the stairs slanted?

[Vaatrad]

Shift+V.

[salomonsk8r2003]

Moonlight Sonata...beautiful.

[chrisstorvik]

that stair will create a million visleaves. how do you make brushes func_detail?

[Vaatrad]

Ctrl+T.

[Leathertoast]

Merry Christmas, and thanks for the help!

[gjermundgb]

How do you make a texture as small as a staircase?

[Wazanator500]

Thanks dude your videos really helped me!

[andarsjukir]

whenever i open hammer the 3d camera is black no matter what i do it sjust black, just like my map in game :/ please help

[Vaatrad]

You have done the 'Map -> Entity Report -> Go To' fix that was covered in Tut.1, yes?

[casiopilot]

my sters come out to big pleas help

[Vaatrad]

The following two keys control the grid size:

[

and

]

[VeeTeeVier]

I love your video's, and the music is awesome.

[arnoke123]

if i want to run it i get an error:

Command Failed.Windows reported an error:

The system can't find the wanted file

(or something like that, my pc is set in dutch so i have to translate it..)

[Vaatrad]

Try refreshing SDK from the SDK menu.

[Doug52392]

There was probably an error compiling your map, so the system couldn't find the .bsp file because it failed to compile. Check the compile logs and fix any errors it throws out.

[justo151]

does any one know how to make a night sky

[eljameo1000]

hi. great vid. i liked it. one prob tho, func_ladder isnt there. i looked down the page and found another guy had the same problem. do you have any alternitives?

FYI: i was on HL2 single player engine was HL2, EP1

can anyone help? i'm still trying to work it out another way

[cheesecakeNL]

i also cant find func_ladder please help me 2.

[Vaatrad]

For CSS I think you can get away with just using the invisible ladder texture on a brush rather than making it a func_ladder.

[turshija]

*high*

[nickginhb]

how do u find out the hieght and width of everything? i cant get the stair height right??????

[Vaatrad]

The sizes of the brushes should appear in the grid views. I'm not sure where the option is to turn it on if it is off.

[RODER1CK]

How do I make handrails?

[Vaatrad]

You can make them out of brushes (making them a func_detail will improve performance). Alternatively you can use props. You may want to make the prop non-solid and then surround the prop with a playerclip textured brush so that the prop can be stood on and shot through.

[dwarvmater]

Hi, the func_ladder isn't listed in my tool list, though i tried just to write it then... But no effect, the ladder doesn't fuction as one. Can you help me at this?

[Vaatrad]

What game are you mapping for?

[dwarvmater]

i am mapping for HL2

[pnpcoffee]

i was wondering i can't find func_ladder in hammer when i am mapping for HL2dm. so what is the easy way of making a ladder in hammer for HL2dm ?.

[Vaatrad]

I'm not sure how to make ladders of HL2DM.

[JiBii14]

great video :D

[Nuka5]

same problem as below!

[dskoi]

i cant find func_ladder please help!!!! and then again does this kind of ladder work for tf2? if not tell me were to find a tut about making ladders for tf2

[Vaatrad]

Ladders in TF2 might well be different but I don't know about the specifics of mapping for TF2.

[randomassmovies]

yo dude i wanna make a zm map but making staris is to hard for me lol how do i make ramps and room underground

[Vaatrad]

Tut.5 covers manipulating brushes, including making ramps.

[ps3mon]

To make sure you don't have to jump make sure the server cvar (in the server you are making the map for) sv_stepsize is atleast the height of your steps. Everybody hates the old noob stairs that you have to jump between steps on.

[kaanxxx]

waht do you mean by and keys?

[Vaatrad]

Try [ or ].

[kaanxxx]

What is the (or) jeys , please explain!!!!!

[Vaatrad]

[ ]

[kaanxxx]

I cant make any brushes , below size 64 ??? help!

[Vaatrad]

Try the [ and ] keys.

[N7eightyeight]

Dude, you are great. I'm not done going through your tutorials, but I really understand and am getting better! Thank you!

[JockeSweed]

very helpful, Thanx alot :)

[69partyboy25]

most helpful vid of them all so far...

thx amillion again :)

[jameswaller13]

for some reason when im making an object i have to drag it to the exact length, width and height instead of having the adjustable squared grid which helps to get exact fittings using the [] keys, any help?

[Vaatrad]

Look for the Snap-to-Grid option.

[LotusChili]

how did you make the grid so small?

[Vaatrad]

As covered in Tut.1 the square bracket keys control the grid-size.

[8ratchet8]

i can't find the func_ladder!

[Vaatrad]

If you are mapping for CS:S try without.

[8ratchet8]

the problom is i mapping for hl2dm but i have find another way now :)

[iikepotatoes]

Can you make a video of how to change .map to .bsp beause all of the maps i make for cs 1.6 come out as (.map) not (.bsp).Please if you can it will help many people that may have the same question and me too =)

[Vaatrad]

You have compiled the map, right?

[puredeath323]

dude...when i create a game on css and i pick to go on the map i created my brother cant play it, its not on his LAN list...WTF help!

[Vaatrad]

You might have a space in the filename.

[curtisford14]

yeah like if you saved it good map it woudent work but if you named it good_map that should work :S

[doritosquad]

lol you help so much

[DANIGURL0421]

i love your tutorials thanks for putting them up

[8ratchet8]

usafull nice :) 5\5

[Jetset1964]

Howd you get the arches in your walls? what tut explains that?

[Vaatrad]

Tut.5 tells you everything you need to know about manipulating brushes. All you need to make any shape is a few brushes and some imagination.

[kyle7412]

ahhh thanks man!

[Tkilminster]

it says Cmodel loader *map file name* invalid or not found

[Tkilminster]

i have does not work

[Vaatrad]

Hm. I don't know then.

[Tkilminster]

no i dont its just it says map not found or invalid

[Vaatrad]

I'm not sure. Try changing the filename.

[Tkilminster]

when i compile mine and then go on css in the console it says my map is invalid or not found. plz comment on my profile

[Vaatrad]

You might have a space in the filename.

[dasok1]

hey wat program do u use to record your videos

cheers

[Vaatrad]

I use BB FlashBack from Blueberry Software.

[sas213rd]

hey vaatrad

i was waondering could u make a tut about makin glass the you can see through one side but not the other. eg like the glass in css surf maps

cheers

[Vaatrad]

See Tut.6 for how to apply different textures to different faces of one brush.

[OlloX3]

nice map

[munnymike]

how do you get those yellow dots again? I want to make them have a diagonal bottom

[Vaatrad]

Shift+V.

[riickypker]

It realy doesn't work to make stairs i don't know how to get the burshes so smal as yours? :S

Every time i try it it's around the same hight as the people.!? please help

[Vaatrad]

You need to change the grid size.

[riickypker]

Oh yes i found it :P tyvm.

5/5

[electro5]

How do i save my project as a bsp file

[Vaatrad]

You need to compile it. This is covered in Tut.1.

[shame2119]

How do you curve the wall you've made in the middle. The passage at the right at 02:49 in the video?

[Vaatrad]

It isn't really curved, it's just made from a few brushes.

[shame2119]

Oh okay thx

[TheLoser6]

I feel so rude, at first I couldn't watch any of your tutorials because of your voice, not the accent but the whisper like your trying to sound creepy or something. After I got use to it, Your tutorials are Ace! Thank your for your help.

[SniperXdude]

Thanks ;P completed my map with the ladder : cs_JPG:AimBattlestadiumv1 ;P thanks man

[archey66]

the ones he has

[archey66]

where do i gt the texture?

[Vaatrad]

Which texture?

[lawls99]

wow this really helped :D thank you i have just done my first map which was poolparty_v2 and it looked great :d i recommend that map if you want something simple

thanks again limpers

[Johnhawkes]

i dot have func ladder

[Vaatrad]

Try just using the invisible ladder texture and not making the brush a brush-entity.

[mattcscz]

lol vaatrad im mr matt im gonna need ya help on hammer some time =)

[skeetman3030]

i cant find funk ladder and im trying to make a map for css

[Vaatrad]

See if it works without it. If it doesn't just type it in.

[greenday07ryan]

Use a really thin brush with tools/toolsinvisibleladder as the texture, and put it just infront of the brush you want to be your ladder, as an alternative.

[pakadots]

nice tutorial, thank you.

[GANON199]

I cant find func_ladder?

[Vaatrad]

What mod are you mapping for?

[PsychoX77]

How do you make the step so small? I can only make my like 5 times that size!

[Vaatrad]

As covered in Tut.1 you can change the grid size with the [ and ] keys.

[Darktunak]

How do you make it go diagonal?

[Vaatrad]

Make what go diagonal?

[Darktunak]

I ment the back of the stairs how to make it run down slanted but i found out how to make it. :D

[cssmapper]

i want to double subscribe you!(lol)

[Fluffybelly]

It wont let me load the video, it does that circley thingy and it wont load, can you help?

[Vaatrad]

Try a different browser (Firefox or IE) or restarting your browser or resetting your router or just clicking the link in the video description box and downloading the video.

[ArmidlioX]

You make the best Hammer Tutorials i can find. Even the ones on the main website for SDK dont have as good ones as yours

[Pezmcadult]

I have followed your tutorial to this stage. However at this stage when I compile css does not load the map, it opens and establishes connection to server. Then crashes and gives up. After looking in console it leaves the error message: check for errors. On Alt + P, Hammer Finds No Errors At All, Whats going on?

[Vaatrad]

Does it crash CS:S?

[Pezmcadult]

Nope it jsut goes back to the menu screen (create server, options etc...)

[Pezmcadult]

rapidshare com/files/81610541/thingy.vmf.­html

[Vaatrad]

You probably have a space in the filename.

[Pezmcadult]

nope its called thingy

[Proz428]

How do i make a thing To go in like middle of a thing instead of having it in a corner?

[Vaatrad]

No idea what you are on about.

[Proz428]

I mean the like the spawn points You can make exactly over the Floor but i can just make a 1 meter above o.O

[Vaatrad]

Try [ and ].

[Proz428]

What?