Tony Wilson, Kersal Flats and Slums Part 1

[salfordjc]

Frank Allaun what a loss to the movement and Salford when he died....................

[richiesking]

Im not a mancunian but i feel like crying when i see this.Tony was such a force for good and could easily have fucked off to London and made a shitload of cash but he wanted to better the condition of manchester and to live in his own city.RIP TONY you were a great man.

[Bignadim]

low rise slums!!! as they were graded replaced by less then savoury high rise flats that became slums them selves! failed lifts anti social behaviour no community sense!! old terraces had space for bathrooms and had backyards

[freethoughtmusic]

I remember scenes like this so well when I was younger although I wasn't from the great city of Manchester. It's part of the reason my family emigrated, to try for a better life; but England's still home, and it's funny. I still get nostalgic for those scenes. As neil73 said, those old slums,ugly as they were gave a sense of community which is now lost in modern cities for various reasons.

[neil73]

I remember areas of Leeds like this when I was a little kid. Back to back houses with 'flags' for pavement and cobblestreet roads, outside lavatories shared by four housesholds in the binyard, and some still even had coalfires. But the thing is that they had a better sense of community; everybody vaguely knew each other. You won't find that in cities in the UK anymore.

[rubberplantsandwich]

yep, Bramley is was still like that when I grew up there in the '70s, still is when I go back there now. Every other town in this country flattened their back to backs in the 60's. When I take my scouse wife back to Bramley she can't believe that back to backs still survive their. She laughs at the washing hanging our across the cobble stoned street and the yard at the end for the bins.

[neil73]

@rubberplantsandwich Weird, because I lived in Bramley for years and was up there today! The place is/has gone down hill fast. The Cardigan pub is falling to bits, more charity and pawn shops in the precinct (a sure sign of a poverty striken area) and gangs of teenagers, ages from 8 to early 20's roam the streets looking for trouble, or someone to go in the shop for them. Urban blight all over again. Strangely, Bramley is still a predominantly white area of Leeds.

[dark108x]

The obvious thing to me do have been done would have been to renovate the existing houses and avoid breaking up the communities, though I'm wondering in hindsight whether that would have been a good solution, or if these houses would still have been slums 20 years later.

[Ordsall66]

Tony Wilson is a legend.

They fucked up when they cleared the "slums" and replaced them with high rise flats.

[mepnomon]

a house for £5,000 ??? In order to buy it you need to earn more than £57 per week??? Seriously?!

[ianupton]

you goof. the average uk weekly wage in 1974 was only £27. history has repeated itself like todays unaffordable 6 to 12 x annual salary. now comes the downturn...

[TehKikapu]

@mepnomon Go back to pre WW2, and an average working class wage in london would pay off a small house in under a year....

[mepnomon]

@TehKikapu is that a result of inflation?

[TehKikapu]

@mepnomon I would say yes, but I expect it's a lot more complicated than that....

[GriefTourist]

Fascinating.

[thiaanthony]

thanks for posting this!

[timmyn101]

£5000 for a house.... SHIT!

[vaughanography]

WOW Impressive find

Tony Wilson R.I.P

[thunderflash82]

average house price 10,000 pounds. today it's like 400,000.

[britdude1961]

new buildings 2 replace old slums became slums themselves---some of fotage looks like 19th century not 1970s--me thinks tony wilson actually gave a shit--rip

[glaxev]

true makes me wonder whether or not the new "addordable" houses they are building will turn like.

[halsalli]

He was involved in the housing policies of northern towns like Burnley right up until his death

[FuckMUFCGOLFC]

I'm from London,the ONLY city in the Northwestern UK I'm pretty familar with is Liverpool,I have been to Manchester before,is this area in the vid within inner City Manchester or in the burbs??

[lepopnoir]

@FuckMUFCGOLFC Salford/Kersal are separate councils to Manchester. Salford is a separate city, but it is joined to Manchester by a road called Deansgate and the A6. It takes about 15 minutes to walk from central Manchester to central Salford. Central Manchester doesn't have housing like this anymore, or at all, but Ardwick is very close to the centre, and Ardwick is where they based Shameless (if that gives you any idea about housing).

Big love for this city :)

[korgkiller]

and we still have these problems today. fucking polititians.

[Wetdude3D]

Superb Granada report and with the fantastic Mr Manchester Tony Wilson.

Brilliant footage