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  • the game is okay.. Its not the best fighting game but still fun to play.

  • lols i guess its just street fighter with tekken characters as well

  • the graphics are horrible, its like half real half cartoon, looks like jet set radio did on dreamcast which was fine for thats style of game but not for this game - they kinda look like theyre made outta metal its weird looking

  • @Rockysbeats Well Namco is making a Tekken X Street Fighter with Tekken graphics and all ? c:

  • This is a whole NEW game and should be appreciated as such. I have been a Tekken fan since Playstation, I've been a Street Fighter fan since arcade...this game is Street Fighter with Tekken characters, they did nothing to compromise and combine gameplay, it's still side scrolling, cell shaded, but the characters look "3D" IMO Street Fighter sold out when they "merged" with the Capcom style of animation, and Tekken just sold out now. I wont run out and buy it but if I get the chance I'll play

  • The characters are only as good as the person controling them.

  • I would kill them all by turning off the power on my console.

    Stupid Youtube comments war /

  • @SoopsD Lmfao!!! Well said!

  • looks like i have to wait until mortal kombat 10 comes out to be able play a good fighting game.

  • this game looks AWFUL.... Tekken downgrade?

  • @Mature I agree. This games sucks really bad.

  • that guy dont know how to play heihachi!! i bet someone better will kill ryu

  • Heihachi and Akuma Dream teams are all over in this game

  • is he rly having trouble throwing a fireball with ryu? jesus how many years have we had to practice that one move come on noobcake go back to FF XIII 2

  • these guys suck

  • pass. i'll wait til they come out with street fighter XX tekken in a few months.

  • players of thsi match are terrible.

  • damn no dragunov :(

  • they need a lot more characters

  • @kof2002kof they dont turn into devils?? or am i wrong lol and kazuya is strong he can take anything you throw at him no matter how strong you say akuma is :)

  • Am I the only person who when they first seen videos about this game wasn't like "TEKKEN IS SO 1337! IT WOULD TOALLY LIKE KICK SF'S ASS!" or like "OMG WHY WOULD CAPCOM EVEN CONSIDER THIS GAME A GOOD IDEA?! TEKKEN IS 4 NUBS SF IS WAY BETTARZ!". Seriously guys? If the creators of both games are on good enough terms to make this game (and Tekken X Street Fighter), don't you think they would expect their fans to be as well? Grow the fuck up and just enjoy the games for what they are!

  • @DrMinion333 dont get involve with kids arguments. -_-'' let them be.

  • @DrMinion333 fuck the haters. this game is fantastic.

  • @Killuminati267 If you spam in SSF4AE you WILL get owned by someone who actually knows what they are doing. Every game.

    Go watch the EVO 2011 SSF4AE finals, basically verifies everything I've said.

  • @Killuminati267 Go play some SSFIVAE online, and you'll see. Tekken is for wannabes, Street Fighter is the only fighting game worth talking about, mechanically that is. Why do you think they are using the SF/SSF4 template on SFxT?

    Because it's a better more eSport oriented system. And it's fairly balanced, Tekken on the other hand...pff.

  • Ryu forever.

  • goku super saiyan 4 will beat the crap out of anyone in this game dragon ball gt for the win

  • STREET FIGHTER WOO WOO!

  • heihachi looks so damn panicky, in tekken his stance looks so fucking CALM, ready to kick anyone's ass

  • i like both sf and tekken but face it all u sf fans, TEKKEN rules and u know it. It will take one mishima(including jin coz hes son of kazuya) to beat akuma ryu or ken. ok, oni sooo strong but devil jin/kazuya will fuck him up soo bad and u know it so shut up coz no sf charecter will beat a mishima (and ryu is stronger then akuma anyway so atleast y not back him up coz u sf fans r dumbb dnt even know ur own game)

    last words i love sf and tekken but i had to back tekken

  • street fighters better??? whaha what a joke. tekken chars are way more better, jin can transform 2 times. first time in devil and second in some super sayian devil. dont believe me? go watch tekken blood revenge movie. in that movie jin transfrom in it. devil jin owns everyone in SF and the best is that he gets stronger and stronger. akuma may be a deamon but a deamon cant beat the devil. devil is way more powerfull than some deamon. only wish that jinpachi or azazel were in the game

  • there are not enough characters, their should be 50 plus characters, that would make me more likely to buy it

  • @gingy717 Fanboy alert

  • street fighters better case closed

  • @kof2002kof Kazuya - Devil Kazuya ! Akuma - shin akuma - Oni ! aKUma means demon ! While kazuya n Jin can be the Devil themselves ! Case closed :)

  • I have to say tekken is better than street fighter dont get me wrong they're both good games but tekken has a way better story line and more believable fighting styles (excluding devil gene forms)

  • akuma and ryu have the satsui-no hadou(dark hadou) power, is the same of devil version of jin and kazuya, so jin wasn't the strongest fighter of the game, but ryu try not to use the satsui power and he dont

  • @MyrenzoJR JUST LIKE ARNULFO500 SAID, RYU AND AKUMA ALSO HAVE DEVIL VERSIONS WHO ARE SO FUCKING FAST, YOUR JIN WOULD JUST WASTE HIS TIME AND STAMINA TRYING TO LASER BEAM THEM, AND ALSO EVEN GOUKEN WOULD KICK JINS ASS !

  • @gingy717 ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID !!? WHAT ABOUT ALL THE ULTRA AND SUPER COMBOS SF GOT, TEKKEN WOULDNT LAST A SECOND FROM GETTING HIT OF ANY SF CHARACTERS ULTRA. KEN AND AKUMA WOULD SMASH UP DEVIL JIN AND KAZUYA, SO WHAT IF THEY CAN FLY ? KEN WILL JUST UPPERCUT THEM BACK TO CONCRETE WHICH ALONE WILL HURT !

  • @duraccelb Whoa, all caps rage.

    It all comes down to one thing. Can Ryu, Ken, Akuma, Oni, or Evil Ryu fly? No. So, what's stopping Devil Jin from just flying high into the air and spamming lasers? Nothing.

  • @MyrenzoJR Couldnt have said it better myself.

    Devils would spam lasers and Jinpachi/ Orge would spam FIRE from high in the air. It would obliterate all of Street fighter.

    TEKKEN WINS.

  • @allosauras HAHAHA Ken & Ryu's Shroyuken will take care of Junpachi and Ogre in the air. LMAO. Devil's Lazer wouldn't hit Akuma/Bison w/ their Teleport abilities ... Strategy = BOO BOO !!!

  • I hope The Controls Will Still Be The same When I Chose One Of The Tekken Characters

  • everyone makes huge props to Devil Jin,Devil Kazuya,Ogre,Jinpachi and Azazel but the thing is the only one in all of thoes to not have lost a fight is Devil Jin so technically Akuma is the only hope for the Street Fighter world...or Evil Ryu to the rest well not so much oo yeah and Gouken and Oro

  • Finally i am going to see Guile (main in sf) vs Kazuya (main in tekken)

  • Ryu face a planet eater on umvc what are u saying?, akuma can Break a Mountain and mash a meteor what are you say, You can Life up boulders ten times his weight what are u say?, ryu Metsu Shin shoryuken can Break someone Jaw what are you saying,Evil you can Get hit by bullets what are u saying, Oni can whip out a Whole forest what are u saying, Kazuya got throw into a Vocano *dead* need scientist to bring him back

  • i want to see street fighter vs mortal kombat or tekken vs mortal kombat just for the fatalities. theyd be fuckin sweet

  • Something todo before tekken tag 2

  • WILL THIS EVEN HAVE CUSTOMIZABLE CHARACTERS?????

  • There are missing some Chartres that am disappointed

  • i think they shouldnt have used the SF4 art style for this game. it makes almost all the tekken characters look weird and lame.

  • This game will blow away Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom. Period!

  • mortal kombat vs tekken EPIC

  • Tekken > Street fighter.. Tekken wins

  • @AndrewSun15 Street Fighter > Tekken (:

  • Whoever is paying Ken sucks!!!

  • nice character select screen.

  • this is going to be so gay unless they make this with the tekken ingen

  • @MrWHOGIVESAFUK There making another version called Tekken X Street Fighter which will have the Tekken engine.

  • why doesnt any1 tag ?, and is there blanka

  • it would be awesome if they have one of nintendo's punch out characters in it. it totally fit cause its cartoony.

  • That can't be full roster, is it?

  • @falcon8534 i hope not, it's probably just limited for the demo.

  • In a way I would say it'd not far to tekken users to play the game like a street fighter 4 game but i mean cmon guys its a game just play it till u master it and stop crying about it.

  • whiles yall were arguing diago mastered kaz and ryu team.... might as well start talkin about tekken x street fighter

  • Game interests me, this video though there's just not much of a fight happening here. Nuff said.

  • Yay its ssf4 with tekken characters....capcom gets more original with each passing year -.-

  • This had better not be the entire roster. I don't know about ya'll but this roster is too short for me.

  • Oh man! Bullshit!

  • Fuck this,. why graphics of street fighter ..... tekken graphics is better...... and street fighter girls will be more sexy if they just used the real-life graphics of tekken

  • @aldeeoink oh don't worry, we will have tekken graphics in HYPER SFxTekken : the ultimate world championship edition

  • Where AKUMA?!? If Akuma isn't in this game, then F this game.

  • @eddiecrespo28 YOU RIGHT MAN I DONT BUY ANY STREET FIGHTER GAME WITHOUT AKUMA !!!

  • im prettey sure theres gonna be a Super Street Fight X Tekken Arcade Addition

  • hey guys i have proof that M.Bison and Ling Xiaoyu are in go on to my channel it is real not fake

  • WHERE TEH FUCK IS PAUL! AND JIN!

  • lars should be in this in fact all tekken characters and all street fighter characters should be in this

  • WHERE IS LAW!!!

  • is anyone else half expecting a darkstalkers X soul calibur crossover ?

  • P2 Y U NO switch ? 0.o

  • hey guys i have proof that M.Bison and Ling Xiaoyu are in go on to my channel it is real not fake

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  • street fighter fans will like this more than tekken fans

  • @myco578 no shit dumbass its called streetfighter x tekken the other one is tekken x streetfighter for tekken fans

  • WTF THIS ASS GAME NEVER ADDS THE ORIGINALS OF SF. WHERES E HONDA, BALROG, ZANGIEF, OR YUN. SCREW THE NEW CHARACTERS LIKE IBUKI AND POISON BRING BACK OLD

  • @FoofaProductions Err... Zangief is already in and Balrog has been hinted at. No one really cares about E. Honda and Yun should stay the hell away from this game.

    And Yun isn't part of the "originals" as you say, he's from the same game as Ibuki.

  • @Santoryu92 Yea i knew that Zangief was in the game i was just ssaying that instead of putting people from Final Fight like Poison, and stop geust host like Cole, they should put people that are well know in Street Fighter. And what do you mean by hinted at. Does it mean they were about to put him in the game. But whoops i made a mistake of putting Yun as original and Ibuki new she looks new to me. But putting Abel, Rolento, Poison, and Hugo in the game are not needed in the game.

  • seriously there were like 5 consecutive haidokens.. u a noob?

  • Where the hell is Jin Kazama?

  • Kotaku put up a post showing a in-game scrreen shot with icons of Bison and Xiaoyu in the background.

  • THEY SHOULD USE THE FUCKIN' TEKKEN PEEPS!!!!!!

    EVERY FUCKIN' DUMBASS KNOWS THAT TEKKEN FORMAT IS MUCH MUCH BETTER!!!!!!

  • @Jakol118 LOL!

    tekken format is better? all the biggest fighting game tournaments have street fighter as the main game and all others as a side thing

  • WTF??!! where's Feng Wei, Jin Kazama, Bison and many others? i bet Capcom will launch this game and after 5 months will come another one with all chararters!!

  • @GuSz2 You do know M. Bison is confirmed...Jin is confirmed as well. And more exiting characters will be added before the game releases (as a suprise).

  • @joinmebowser9000 I hope so, or it's gonna be desappointing!!

  • where's our main person Jin?

  • When's tekken vs streetfighter coming out?I'm not that much of a street fighter fan

  • @saar0006 that could be a very long time since street fighter characters will have to adopt to the 3D playing field. i have no idea how they will do this or even if it will work

  • Tekken destroys Street fighter. The Tekken Graphics, fight moves, storyling and movies own Street fighter.

    They should have made this Tekken style not Street fighter style.

  • @gingy717 Your version comes next called tekken x street fighter so no worries :)

  • @Redey59 Awesome, cant wait for the Tekken version of this to come out. I didnt even know one was being made.

    You made my day man XD. Know the release date?

  • @gingy717 I would have no idea when tekken x street fighter comes only thing i know is that it wont be soon since there hasent been shown anything yet

  • @gingy717 This is ''STREET FIGHTER'' x Tekken NOT ''TEKKEN'' x Street Fighter. They are two different games. If you dont like Street Fighter go somewhere else

  • @gingy717 master Street fighter: years of experience

     Master Tekken: learn the combos on the combo list.

  • @gingy717 What Capcom and Namco should do is set an option or DLC for the game to have it Tekken style gameplay.

  • @gingy717 theres going to be two versions Street Fighter vs Tekken (Streefighter style engine) and Tekken vs Street Fighter (Tekken style namco engine). Im Buying the tekken one, which will come out after the capcom version has been releassed

  • @Goldenboyfoxx Yeah I know now, next time ill search wiki before commenting lol.

    I done the same thing b4, I asked people when pokemon was coming out on 3ds not realising one was already out o.o

    Anyway thanx for the reply. Im gonna buy the namco/tekken game to. I think it comes out about half way through the year but until then im buying street fighter for 3ds to get experience with fighters from street fighter aswell. My Tekken fighters are Kazuya, Lee and Nina, all tekken gods on my T6. XD

  • @gingy717 They are making 2 games StreetFighterXTekken and TekkenXStreetFighter. This one is being made by capcom, TekkenXStreetFighter is being made by Nacom.

    I like both games the Street Fighter graphics are unique. I prefer the graphics of Tekken though, T also has more moves and they look cooler, but SF characters would destroy T characters in a fight because SF characters have long-ranged and short ranged moves/combos but T characters have only short ranged. I'm going to buy both games.

  • @ACULimoncelli10 Tekken charicters would destroy street fighters.

    Devil Jin, devil Kazuya, Ogre, Azazel, Jinpachi all have long range attacks and they would destroy any street fighter charicter.

    The Street fighterxTekken (capcom) opening shows Kazuya single handedly destroying Ryu and Ken. Kazuya even uses a long range laser blast.

    Even the Street fighter designers know Tekken charicters would win, Lol.

  • @gingy717

    If Tekken or Street Fighter was more realistic, Alisa's chainsaws would cut somebody into bits, Cody's knife could slit someone's throat, Nina/Anna's Bazookas could blow up someone, Sagat's fire would burn anybody....

    if it was in that way realistic and all of the SF characters and all the T characters would fight Street Fighter characters would win! Give me any T Character/s and I will tell you a way that 1 S F character could beat them.

    And Tekken is just a copy of SF+Moral Combat

  • @ACULimoncelli10 If sf fighters are so much stronger why does The Street fighterxTekken (capcom) opening show Kazuya single handedly destroying Ryu and Ken?

    Ill tell u why, because the sf creators know tekken is better. I named many tekken fighters that would destroy any sf fighters (Devil Jin, devil Kazuya, Ogre, Azazel, Jinpachi).

    Actually READ my comment and respond to it, dont just write random shit.

    Tell me why the Street fightersxTekken opening shows Kazuya beating Ken and Ryu?

  • @gingy717

    their power is not even measured in the same way but sf characters have an advantage and I don't know why they made the trailer that way.

    Also I was going somewhere with my other comment, if it way in that way realistic any sf character could destroy any Tekken characters.

    Also the Creator of Tekken even admitted to copying and slightly altering street fighter and mortal combat characters. I prefer Tekken but the sf characters are better

  • @ACULimoncelli10 sf has to much useless character n i rather play alpha 3 then this crap i hate ssf4 it was really pointless to me

  • @IrNOobI

    i dont think that sf is the best fighting game but it is the original. I prefer Tekken 6 to ssfivae

  • @ACULimoncelli10 king of fighters is the original

  • @ACULimoncelli10 Nothing beats 3d strike fag, its perfect!

  • @ACULimoncelli10 Well I dont think sf fighters are better but ur entitle to your opinion. I mean Akuma is strong and would be tough, but devil Jin and devil Kazuya (true form) are SOOOOO strong. Have you seen Tekken Blood vengeance, the 3 way battle with Heihachi, Jin and Kazuya and Devil Jin vs Devil Kazuya? They are EPIC fights, what sf fighters could beat them with little water blasts?

    I think Tekken fighters are stonger but i cant wait for the games to come out, ill find out.

  • @allosauras

    1) they are gi balls

    2) Oni, he could singled handedly defeat every Tekken character

  • @ACULimoncelli10 i doubt oni could defeat full devil jin, devil kazuya or jinpachi. especially jinpachi. oni is lame compared to shin akuma

  • @eftultima

    Oni is more powerful than shin Akuma. Oni is when Akuma has embraced the full power of the Dark Hado, it controls him but it makes him ridiculously powerful, where as Shin Akuma is the most power he can use while in control of himself.

  • @ACULimoncelli10 You are wrong.

    allosauras, eftultima and myself all know you are wrong. Devil Jin or Devil Kazuya are more then a match for any street fighter, espessially 'IF Tekken and Street fighter were realistic'. The swift, laser shooting TRUE devil forms of Jin and Kazuya from blood vengenance would easily kill Ryu, Oni, Akuma and Ken.

  • @ACULimoncelli10 The Devil forms of Jin and Kazuya can fly as fast as a jet, shoot laser blasts that cut metal, teleport and they would win ANY fight.

    How can weak Gi balls and slow, flightless fighters match a true Devil? Slow water blasts will never hit the flying/ swift Tekken Devils in a realistic fight.

    Face it, Devil Jin + Kazuya will rule the Sf world.

    Ken and Akuma = Devil Kazuya's BITCH.

    Ryu and Oni = Devil Jin's BITCH.

    Ogre, Azazel and Jinpachi will dominate the rest.

  • @gingy717 haha dude same opinion like me. the devils are to exaggerated for SF. tekken 4 ever

  • @gingy717

    Ryu and Ken are shit.

    Some of the Tekken characters are insanely powerful but I know how Oni could defeat the Devils, Ogre, true Ogre and Azazel, but I don't think that Oni and Jinpachi would fight, their goals are the same so I think that there would be a chance of them teaming up, if they ever met.

  • @ACULimoncelli10 i played with oni. he lacks many of akumas moves which makes him suck ass.

  • @eftultima

    if it were more realistic he could kick anyones ass in under 20 moves.

  • @gingy717 its a game, not the end of the world

    (even though i agree haha)

  • @gingy717 Dam right man

    Dont forget about Jun's devil, Unknown and the wolf spirit. They look really strong aswell, I bet unknown will defeat Akuma and the other sfers.

  • @gingy717 bitch please

  • @gingy717 no sense , they are different games and Devil form it's not so OP you are talking no sense where you see they teleport,cut metal and fly fast as a jet?

  • @Lumoreno321 If you watch Tekken Blood Vengeance you will see Devil Jin and Kazuya's true devil forms. In the fight between them they do fly as fast as a jet and devil Kazuya teleports to avoid a punch.

    In the Street fighter x Tekken trailer where Kazuya and Nina fight Ryu and Ken, Kazuya blasts the large robot Nancy with a laser beam. This robot is made of METAL so the beam can cut through metal.

    Watch Blood Vengeance and the trailer, its not non sence.

  • @gingy717 it's non-canon both '-' i think the laser has the power of a hadouken , he can fly but not fast as a jet and cannot teleport

  • @gingy717

    im thinking will they put in devil jins lazer beam? because you cant step to the side so how would they block it when its the jumping lazer?

  • @REALKILLADEALRECORDS Well I have seen Kazuya use his laser blast more then once in street fighter x tekken trailers.

    He uses it once in the trailer when he destroys the nancy robot and again in game play while fighting a street fighter so im sure devil Jin and Kazuya will have laser blasts.

  • @gingy717 Yeah. Devil Jin and Devil Kazuya and lasers and wings and blah blah blah. Cool for ten year olds. When Bison was around, Kazuya was shitting his diapers.

  • @gingy717 yeah ok. Devil jin n kazuya shoot pupu beems from their eyes. can devil jin n kazuya peform a 1000 hit combo less faster then the humen eye can capture known as the raging demon? hell no. and those aren't little water balls they'er throwing at ya, those are HELL BALLS! Evil Ryu and akuma would own devil jin and kazuya anyday.

  • @gingy717 No offense bud but before you say something like that, watch the SF movies and Oni's intro/ending. Your comparison is completely one-sided lol. And yes, Oni can fly and can make volcanoes erupt with only his presence :). In my opinion, they are equally strong. lol

  • @gingy717 Dear god, if Ogre, Azazel and Jinpachi are in then we would die due to them sucking us in the game somehow!

  • @gingy717 Akuma and Ryu have also there devilish version! Shin akuma and evil ryu. They are faster than bullets and explosive like nukes. So fuck a tekken grappling dick grabbing rubbing mofo's!

  • @gingy717 ryu can also be a devil but he choses not to

    akuma is one already but holds back, he can turn in to shin akuma

    if thats not enough then Oni version can andle jin or kazuya.. you dont know crap about street fighter.

  • @kof2002kof im more a tekken fan and i agree with u their

  • @kof2002kof lmao your talking video game characters beating up other video game characters as if they were actual people lmao what a faggot.

  • @gingy717 Doubtful, Akuma is the master of the fist. He does nothing else but train. He can land one thousand punches in a blink of an eye and each hit kills the soul. He can set an entire forest on fire with a single punch. He destroyed a Submarine because it interfered with his training under the ocean. And that's not Oni Akuma either.

  • @HL5IHarrier *He can set an entire forest with a single Hadouken.

  • @gingy717 It seems you are uneducated about the power of SF characters. if you ask me I would say the C. Viper is at least on par with the devil characters of tekkin, and she can fly as well with the use of her special boots. But the yoga Master in SF uses his mind to fly, he doesnt need wings, or special boots, and he can teleport as well, a few characters in SF can do this, including Seth. Akuma also has some God like powers and Im sure he could blow Devil jin out of the sky.

  • @Zofnok @gingy717

    That's what i was trying to explain. I do prefer tekken but the characters in sf are overall more powerful that characters in T, e.g. Chun-li can stop a moving car with her bare hands, Yang and Yun can both create clones of them selves that copy their moves (Ibuki can also do this but very weakly), Oni has the power to destroy time, Makoto has a punch that could split a diamond, Dudley can create a tornado with his fist, C.Viper has a flame-thrower in her shoe.

  • @gingy717 spoken like a true Tekken fan bitch

  • @gingy717

    Ken has a kick that can set a forest on fire, Yuri destroyed a Mall by blinking, Sagat can withstand being shot, Akuma can survive being drowned in lava, evil Ryu's entering animation is him ripping out his heart.

    Akuma is Japanese for demon, he is already as powerful (probably more) than Devil Jin/Kazuya, Oni means true demon in Japanese and is used only for extremely powerful demons.

  • @gingy717 You haven't played SSFIV online have you? SF is far more technical than any Tekken game will ever be, and tbh SF is the only fighting game worth talking about.

    Will be intereresting seeing the Tekken characters though.

  • @DarkhorseSJ Just try to materise one Tekken character juggles in Tekken 6 before "bullshiting" like this!

  • @ProudOcelot That's exactly what I'm talking about. "Juggling" is not only imbalanced but also skill less as it doesn't rely on tactics to bait an enemy out to get an attack opening or clever use or abilities (such as Focus Cancels/EX guard breakers/etc), all you need is one air throw and from there you can "juggle" easily.

  • @gingy717 Shut up this is just a game and the characters will be balanced, no one cares if they can far a lightning bolt.

    And I'm a huge tekken fan, i'm not really into street fighter.

  • @gingy717 by your reasoning then its not even worth playing tekken unless your those above characters as you'd be beaten in one hit....

  • @gingy717 What you're failing to understand is that the first three frames of the shoryuken are invincible. Your argument is invalid.

  • @magnaxilorius this is street fighter x tekken not the other way around the namco version will obviously make tekken characters better just saying

  • @smileyface664 I was troll'in. You broke it!

  • @gingy717 if we talk about TRUE EVIL....the tekken posseses it ALL !!! HAIL THE TEKKEN !!!!

  • @ACULimoncelli10 its just a game you stupid nerd

  • @ACULimoncelli10 Just for fun, im gonna message you when I play the games in like 3 months, then I can prove tekken fighters are stronger, XD. I bet my combo's with Lars, Nina, Lee and kazuya would destroy any sf fighter.

    Anyways nice talking to you.

  • @allosauras

    will you read my comment again, I said IF they were realistic then sf characters would win