Duchamp "Fountain"

[DarrenWarrenD14]

Callmeyang and gracer99 are both douchbags

[beradification]

praise for pierre pinoncelli

[callmeyang]

Many people call Art, what they dont understand or cant interpret.

Everything is a matter of perspective. And things only have the importance you want to attribute to them...

Life itself is the Art.

Every individual, creature or plants are on different planes of understanding and existence.

The guy that smashed the toilet. Obviously assumed himself as the fool.

Peace.

[gracer99]

@callmeyang art is not life, art is life transformed, life elevated, to a state of beauty or transcendence in some form. By your criteria, if the toilet was art, than the smashed toilet the guy made is equally art and there is no loss.

[callmeyang]

@gracer99 Thanks! I agree!

And the guy that smashed the toilet is now part of the art or the object :)

peace.

[gracer99]

@callmeyang no, you obviously don't agree or you wouldn't have said "life itself is art" and called the guy who smashed the toilet a "fool."

[callmeyang]

@gracer99 Hi! I still think it was foolish of the guy that smashed it. Duchamp intention is to provoke and make a clear statement. If you understand the piece of art "Life elevated, deconstructed, whatever"... you will just move on and appreciate it for what it is. I still think he assumed himself as the fool. he had nothing to win or loose by smashing it. But now he is part of the story behind the object.

[gracer99]

@callmeyang you're quite full of sh*% if you don't mind me saying. I never said art was life "deconstructed" now your just putting words in my mouth to suit your faulty reasoning. Art is life elevated to a state of beauty.

[callmeyang]

@gracer99 so far i havent said any fowl words, unlike you that even called me a Nazi. What is the diference of Deconstructing or Elevated. You got the point.

The same word in different languages may be perceived in a multitude of manners. Stop trolling please.

[callmeyang]

@gracer99 We dont have to agree or conform to one thing. Words are just words. They can influence and have different impact and meaning. The fact i agree with you earlier is because i think your statement is also right and just makes the picture clearer thats all... Lets not fall in absolutism.

When i say "Life Itself is the Art" is because some dont appreciate or pay attention to little details, which most artists do.

Peace.

[gracer99]

@callmeyang 300 years from now art historians (and the general public for that matter) will be looking back at this period with disgust. It will be seen as a great intellectual scourge, a hijacking of art by nihilism and relativist pretense. In much the way historians look back at the nazi period of german history, so too will we look back at these examples of "modern art" and shudder. You'll be one of the nazi's I'm afraid.

[callmeyang]

@gracer99 Since you speak for all art historians and the general public... So be it!

[callmeyang]

for gracer99 - what i mean with Life ItSelf is the art is:

We all know what reality is but we cant describe it. What is art for some, may not be for others. That is the question. Personally i like duchamp because he didnt limit himself and he was quite a thinker, along with Buckminster Fuller and many others.

[beradification]

@callmeyang Contrary to popular belief, Duchamp was not a very influential thinker in artistic circles in the 20th century, he simply claimed that he was and used the PR industry to sell his 'taste'.

[rosemutt]

Duchamp had another concept of the readymade called the "reverse readymade." His example is using a Rembrandt as an ironing board. By urinating in Fountain, the Italian artist was simply making Duchamp's piece into a reverse readymade, reversing it from a work of art into a useful object, but ironically back to a use for which it was originally created--a brilliantly Duchampian gesture!

[beradification]

@rosemutt Your wasting your time on childish stuff, check out Dali if you want to see a real artist in action

[asoberprep]

Its f**** toliet this world is a joke lol

[theugly1]

This video is great! It really helped me with a project I'm doing on Duchamp. Just one thing: the original manufacturer of the urinal was 'Mott' which isn't true. 'Mott' did make urinals, but they were a much higher grade than the one fountain is, which is another point of interest: Why did Duchamp have a low grade urinal pose as a high grade one?

But, seriously, this is a really good video.

[anythinggoesjoe]

WHAT LOST ANYONE know what happened to it

[bathrobeHearts]

hahahahHA It Got Lost >.>

[thalegend2001]

Great stuff man, I wish I could have you in class again after seeing that

[glassberg]

Interesting...