Being a WCW/ECW fan before i got into WWE its a shame to see everyone i grew up watching be so misused by WWE..Raven..DDP.. even Rhyno wasnt used as well as he shouldve been. man i loved seeing them in WWE but Vince could have used them a hell of alot better..he wasted alot of pure talent
Misused? In the WWE? You sure? Because the last time I checked he was a 25 time Hardcore Champion. Regardless of who liked him, his legacy is there. Raven was a fantastic wrestler & an amazing persona, he just wasn't easy to market at the time of your Rocks & Stone Colds etc. He still was on TV though & he still won matches.
Glad Raven ditched the facial hair. didn't work for him. I also don't see why people hate on his piercings and makeup. It's a cool image and he always had the skill to back it up.
Yeah thats the problem. Its a frigging wrestling match and all they talk about is a match thats going to happen in three days. I mean , There you have two former ECW wrestlers. Who both were ECW headliners. And the commentaters talk like they dont give a shit. That kind of sucks.
Yes , I know but this is friggin overdone. They are complimenting Rob Van Dams ass off. They really did not care shit about Raven in this one. And thats a damn shame.
@RetrOKiiD22 lots of different stuff really, but I've read that he's a big Pearl Jam fan. If you listen to some of his promos he quotes lots of song lyrics, from various genres of music too, just sometimes he does it very subtley. As far as I know he's filming a movie this year, should be back on TNA in the near future.
Sad to see Raven misused in WWE. He was in the best shape of his career here and all they do is build him for a feud with a guy who's missing his mop. Raven is looking brilliant in the ring and all the commentators are doing is plugging the PPV.
Jericho is a terrible commentator as all he does is make smart ass comments whilst making it obvious that RVD is going over in the match. Tremendously selfish of him.
Great short TV match that Raven gets no credit for.
@Rorshach1004 but keep in mind,even though I agree with you 1000% concerning the misuse of Raven in WWE,that RVD was being pushed massively bc he was over with the fans.He was being pushed for a title shot and run before someone decided to chanege their mind.Raven was sooooo awesome during this time period,and I would have loved to see them both get over
RVD vs Raven in original ECW...did it ever happen?
mancalledstinger 6 months ago
@mancalledstinger Did in WCW...Scotty Flamingo (Raven) vs Robby V
WiggyWarriorI 4 months ago
Y2J : stephanie mcmahon the queen of hardcore sadly the movies doesnt count though
LMAO jericho with a mic is just priceless
and the match was awsome shame it made raven look like a jobber
mk4013 6 months ago
WHERE THE HELL IS HEYMAN THIS IS ECW
HeelHardy25 8 months ago
Being a WCW/ECW fan before i got into WWE its a shame to see everyone i grew up watching be so misused by WWE..Raven..DDP.. even Rhyno wasnt used as well as he shouldve been. man i loved seeing them in WWE but Vince could have used them a hell of alot better..he wasted alot of pure talent
LilTwistaX 1 year ago 2
Misused? In the WWE? You sure? Because the last time I checked he was a 25 time Hardcore Champion. Regardless of who liked him, his legacy is there. Raven was a fantastic wrestler & an amazing persona, he just wasn't easy to market at the time of your Rocks & Stone Colds etc. He still was on TV though & he still won matches.
JacktheDragon10 1 year ago
@JacktheDragon10 26. but we're talking about hardcore championship, which means his title reigns werent that long.
LestatandBerial 9 months ago
Terry has HUGE nipples, those things were always poppin thru her shirts, bra, swimsuit, whatever she wore
F0Xhound009 1 year ago
Glad Raven ditched the facial hair. didn't work for him. I also don't see why people hate on his piercings and makeup. It's a cool image and he always had the skill to back it up.
ShirtlessGuy88 1 year ago
the old y2j was so much better, now hes just a jerk
bonlime 1 year ago
Raven was so popular with the fans and they didn't capitalize on it
TheEbhagzzz 1 year ago
raven looked better before with makeup and things...thumbs up if u agree
birdeye163 1 year ago
why was RVD selling his gut when his back hit the ramp? anyway jerichos commentary was awesome
liewwrestling 1 year ago
I hated how WWF referred to matches against raven as a "tune-up".
cstring420 1 year ago
raven has no wrestling skills
thasin48 1 year ago
@thasin48
Raven is an extremely solid wrestler. This match was just meant to put RVD over so he didn't hit many big moves.
TheAnonymousAnomie 1 year ago
saturn and raven had a great rivalry in wcw, this one in the wwf sucked ass.
HAZENPEPPER 2 years ago
Quote the Raven nevermore
DrGnockerz 2 years ago 3
They should of talk about the other match in an ordinary interview after the match. This is not professional.
ifyousayso8 2 years ago
kind of hard to focus on the match with the story being told in the background...
JonnyRev15 2 years ago 2
Yeah thats the problem. Its a frigging wrestling match and all they talk about is a match thats going to happen in three days. I mean , There you have two former ECW wrestlers. Who both were ECW headliners. And the commentaters talk like they dont give a shit. That kind of sucks.
ifyousayso8 2 years ago 5
The WWE commentators have ALWAYS done that!! A match is going on, and they'll talk about another match. Their brand of wrestling is story telling.
SinisterManiac 2 years ago
Yes , I know but this is friggin overdone. They are complimenting Rob Van Dams ass off. They really did not care shit about Raven in this one. And thats a damn shame.
ifyousayso8 2 years ago 3
Raven is the reason why iWant to join wrestling. iWant him to be my ring Valet/manager when iGo to TNA.
- Quote the Raven, nevermore.
RetrOKiiD22 2 years ago 5
i wanna have a dog collar match with him
DeidaraXL 2 years ago 2
@RetrOKiiD22 Raven is awesome. He's got great taste in music, too.
tremorinmysoul 1 year ago
@tremorinmysoul really.? what does he listen too.? and where is he.?
RetrOKiiD22 1 year ago
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tremorinmysoul 1 year ago
@RetrOKiiD22 lots of different stuff really, but I've read that he's a big Pearl Jam fan. If you listen to some of his promos he quotes lots of song lyrics, from various genres of music too, just sometimes he does it very subtley. As far as I know he's filming a movie this year, should be back on TNA in the near future.
tremorinmysoul 1 year ago
well its their loss. maybe its because he never had a six pack. but wwe's loss seems to be tna's gain at the moment.
technopath100 2 years ago 2
poor old raven. they really destroyd his character.
technopath100 2 years ago 4
yeah them bastards never had faith
iceman736626 2 years ago
Raven could have a good match with a mop
GoodieInDaHoodie 2 years ago 3
Jericho is a mediocre man, making good because he tried really hard.
Rorshach1004 2 years ago
Raven Ruls and RVD I MISS the WWF!
Cabalfreak 2 years ago 3
I MISS THIS THE OLD WWF
Aztekloko24 2 years ago 27
@Aztekloko24 i miss the old E C W
250xundertaker 1 year ago
RVD rules
robvandam91 2 years ago 5
Sad to see Raven misused in WWE. He was in the best shape of his career here and all they do is build him for a feud with a guy who's missing his mop. Raven is looking brilliant in the ring and all the commentators are doing is plugging the PPV.
Jericho is a terrible commentator as all he does is make smart ass comments whilst making it obvious that RVD is going over in the match. Tremendously selfish of him.
Great short TV match that Raven gets no credit for.
Rorshach1004 2 years ago 37
jericho though was good at interviews especially while in ecw.
bokprop420 2 years ago 3
@Rorshach1004 but keep in mind,even though I agree with you 1000% concerning the misuse of Raven in WWE,that RVD was being pushed massively bc he was over with the fans.He was being pushed for a title shot and run before someone decided to chanege their mind.Raven was sooooo awesome during this time period,and I would have loved to see them both get over
5starwrestlingradio 1 year ago
Y2J, RVD, Raven & Terri!
THe best of the best
Snwrestling 3 years ago
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rvd should go2 tna its more extrem than wwe
& i see alot of good competioton 4 him there!
economicdisorder 3 years ago
ECW !!!!! RVD and Raven are the best
angusmetal 3 years ago 4
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only rvd
rvd09ecw 3 years ago
damn rvd was so over wwe so damn screwed him fuck u wwe
jrumpi 3 years ago 4
This match could of been a great PPV classic.
TuclucLicada 3 years ago 2
Jericho does a nice job getting RVD over
StuBram2 3 years ago 3
yea i really admired how much good stuff y2j was asying about rvd. i doubt that hhh would ever say anything good about another wrestler
DORITO773 3 years ago
Haha brilliant, R2D2 90210?
eoinb57 3 years ago 2
What about Raven????????????
ShaneMullaney 3 years ago 9
Great match but wish they'd had a bit more time - felt like they had to rush everything a bit!
SCfnL29 3 years ago 2
The two best WWE hardcore champions in history!!
The two best hardcore wrestlers in history!
The two best ECW orginals in history!
My two heros and my two most favorite superstars ever!
Raven and RVD!!
ZachxZero88 3 years ago 4
It's clearly Terri's fault Raven didn't win.
TuclucLicada 3 years ago 3
Great match. Jericho is GOLD on the mic as usual.
Thewwekiller 3 years ago 7