I have been a traditionalist and it has worth, but without the inner spiritual (and psychological) change, all the chants, schedules, prayers, and historic decorations is an elaborate hobby.
This is beautiful.... the gift of time the English author spent on Papa's island meant (as we came to see), that Mr. N will not become lost or fall into a pit, but rather shall sail on to Heaven by His Mercy and Grace. The Rosary was such a fitting and most loving gesture! Thank you for the splendid video, so enjoyable!
Looking through the comments, there seem to be a lot of haters.
Ignorant people, despisers of Christ and his Church.....I think this must be one of the greatest ringing endorsements that Traditional Catholics can recieve.
If the world persecutes and reviles you as it did with Christ, then you must be doing something right.
I have a lot of time for Traditional Catholics.
They go against the flow to do what they believe is truly right, in an unselfish way.
@mpbest9 I believe you intelligence is certainly lacking. The very word "Inherit" means to obtain from somewhere or someone else, so you totally missed the point, Goyam! We will inherit the Earth FROM YOU!
@proudfreemason The world is Christ's and the fullness thereof. You who speak like a zionist, gentile hating jew, will inherit flames. Yes, inherit, I know the word well, obviously you do not. It is your hour, Judas, the hour of shadows.
@mpbest9 Your words of full of emptiness and in consequence. The roost from which you appeal from, is absolutely full of holes and so far fetched that even a blind-man (Mentally) can see chinks through his other 5 senses. Don't you see, can you not form an opinion of your own? Can you not sense that Religion was put forth to create CHAOS? It is our means to create some sort of ORDER out of the CHAOS with which you have all propagated under false pretense. Trust it, that what you preach is wrong!
@proudfreemason The word "Goyim" means (in modernity) non-Jew. You, Sir are a Salian Frank. Despite whatever pipe dreams you would like to believe about your bloodline, it has nothing in common with the Hebrew bloodline. You even misspelled the word - Goyim!
"We have to recognize that Jewish blood and the blood of a goy are not the same thing." - Rabbi Ginsburg “Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel" - Rabbi Yosef
@michaelrose93 First off you pathetic fool and obviously not very well "read". Pick up a book and realize that there are many explanations to a word, yours not being correct. You use ONE MAN's blurb as an example and propel it like it's fact. Your again, NOT FOOLING ANYONE! You insist on being beaten up verbally?
goy [gɔɪ]
n pl goyim [ˈgɔɪɪm], goys
(Non-Christian Religions / Judaism) a Jewish word for a gentile
@proudfreemason I was quite aware of the origins of the word 'goy' when I wrote that, which is why I wrote "Goyim means (in modernity) non-Jew". Let me break that statement down for you - 'In modern times, goyim has come to mean non-Jew'. The word has not been used to mean 'nation' for many years silly. Don't you know how to use a dictionary? See, the top part is the definition. The part where it says 'from' is the etymology, big word - sorry. Etymology means it's origin, not it's modern use.
This will be my last communique to you. Speaking with you has absolutely no resolve. I am speaking to a Person with no Moral compass and obviously someone hell bent on promoting his Church. I am not here to deny you your Church, what I am saying is that YOUR CHURCH is causing a lot of wrought and turm-oil across the lands. One World Religion makes sense. You can pray to whomever you like + everyone can then get along and forget religious intolerance.I know it would work for me.Bye forever
This will be my last communique to you. Speaking with you has absolutely no resolve. I am speaking to a Person with no Moral compass and obviously someone hell bent on promoting his Church. I am not here to deny you your Church, what I am saying is that YOUR CHURCH is causing a lot of wrought and term-oil across the lands. One World Religion makes sense. You can pray to whomever you like + everyone can then get along and forget religious intolerance.I know it would work for me.Bye forever
@proudfreemason My Church? Haha - Who said I go to church? I have not gone to church for 26 years! You are the one who claims to go to church - AND the one who claims that "religion is a bad creation of man". Bit confused aren't ya laddy? No, not really, since Luther's symbol was a Rose-Croix! You are however the weakest propagandist for the Order I've ever encountered. You make Masons look like arrogant pricks. Fortunately you do NOT represent all - many Masons are respectable people. 93 93/93
@proudfreemason < "The Freemasons SHALL INHERIT THE WORLD!!!" As opposed to the peacemakers? So the Freemasons are NOT the peacemakers? Fascinating. . . .
@michaelrose93 Mr.Rose, I have asked you to go about your business. If you wish to keep on pretending to be a warrior of good that's fine, but your not fooling anyone. Yes, "WE SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH"! Freemasonry is what is needed on this Planet. Wars/Turm-oil and outright Law of the Jungle is rampant in EVERY MAJOR CITY. Freemasonry teaches Brotherly Love, Relief and Truth. If these principles were followed which they will or face the consequences we have Utopia on Earth! SO MOTE IT BE.
@proudfreemason I would like to believe Masonry is to bring a utopia. Why should I however? Many of the wars and turmoil you speak of are a direct result OF Masonry. When is all this to end? In both French AND Russian revolutions, guys are running around wearing phrygian caps. . . Ordo ab Chao? The Russian revolution was horrible. What is to be the fate of the world? "Americana?" or "The new Soviet"? America is currently marching to the left. Things are getting worse, NOT better. - Great Work!
@michaelrose93 I state "BROTHERLY LOVE" for those whom walk with us - For ALL the others, something needs to change and it will, trust us. Imagine a place of worship where you have 7 different types of Religion under one roof without conflict, now that is called proper and right. Religion is a bad creation of Man, there should be no separation. The way to GOD is through one-self, not through "halving your pay check" and "opening doors for the elderly". Wake up, your a Dinosaur spiritually!
@proudfreemason You are so self-contradictory. You say "Religion is a bad creation of Man" - but just recently you also said "I am a Christian. In fact, I literally JUST GOT BACK FROM MY CHURCH about 10 minutes ago". Interesting. So were you lying then or lying now, or do you EVER tell the truth?
@michaelrose93 haha - So, this is where your intelligence GLEAMS THROUGH!! Christianity IS NOT a Religious organization, is it? What a pathetic fool you are. You sir, need to listen when a Man speaks and not soak your Brain with opinionated streams of nothingness. As I stated, RELIGION is a creation to divide - The Catholic Church is the biggest example of that. To believe in Christ as our savior does not mean I have to be Catholic/Protestant or any other organized religion.ONE RELIGION WORKS!
@proudfreemason "ONE RELIGION" Eh? Sounds familiar - sounds Catholic even, since that was Rome's idea first! Anyone find it a bit odd how the Jesuits were banned in 1773, and in 1776 old Weishaupt (Jesuit Jew) pops up, OR that Knigge accused him of being a 'Jesuit in disguise' when he broke from the Order in 1784? "The Jesuits". . ."the intelligencia of the Church were and in some cases still are Freemasons" - Nelson King FPS. / Blavatsky also spoke clearly in 'Isis Unveiled' of the collusion.
One of the most beautiful videos on YT. God bless these wonderful, gentle men of God and their deep and passionate concern for all of us on this earth, and their longing for us all to be heaven with Jesus forever.
Bit dramatic really, isn't it? They agreed two things - to change the date they calculated Easter on, and the tonsure of their head shaving for the monks. Both hardly ground shaking events, which even Cummian, an abbot among the Irish contigent, agreed where really trivial. Far more important was uniformity with the rest of the Church which the Irish were a part of as much as anyone else.
i was so lucky to meet 6 of the brothers on board a flight from Rome, we talked and laughed together, I was the flight-attendant, and at the end of the journey I received a beautiful rosary from them! Very special to meet these monks.
They are special people! Thank you Brother Ivan for the youtube site and your mail address! Super!
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to the young man in the monastery : ¨flee for your life; flee for your soul; go sow your seed ... in a virgin and have children ... five of them ... monasticism ... a load of bollocks
True traditionalists do not follow Vatican II and the blasphemy of the pope. For when man claims himself equal to God or denies Jesus Christ as our savior, he is an Antichrist.
Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. Matthew 15:3, 6, 7 "Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? [Y]e made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition. Ye hypocrites."
It seems to me that your philosophy is hypocritical, as Traditional Catholics are holding on to the teachings of Christ. When quoting Colossians 2:8 it is Protestants and Novus Ordos that cheat with vain deceit according to the traditions of men, according to the elements of the world, and not according to Christ. By their fruits you shall know them eh? Who is the hypocrite twisting scripture to your personal interpretation?
@Oblationem Why are traditional catholics so pathetic? Why do have such a hard time dealing with reality???? You are so pathetic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TML7777777 You need to learn how to state the facts or your opinion, rather than making YOU statements and calling names. It is not I that ends up looking pathetic.
@Oblationem Why doesn't your " champion" go to Germany and proclaim the "truths about the holocaust" if you are so sure of yourselves. By the way, when it comes to growing up, try looking in the mirror oh wise one!
I dont think he is going to go to Germany because if you speak the truth about the Holocaust in Germany, they will put you in prison. Freedom of speech that goes against the German governments position is not so free. There is no debating the issue. They will tell you what to think. The German Government hasent changed all that much have they? You will obey
Even the Auschwitz museum has lowered the number of Jews killed there from 4 million to 1.5 million, and Red Cross records reveal far fewer than 1 million deaths, it does not bode well for the number six million. Unless there’s a new kind of math where six million minus any sum must always equal six million.
@Oblationem The lower numbers are due to the fact that the Soviets "purposely overstated the number of non-Jewish casualties at Auschwitz-Birkenau," according to the Simon Wiesenthal Center. Holocaust deniers insist that the number of Jews killed therefore be lowered by at least 2.5 million. However, the plaque had never been used as an accurate historical source by mainstream historians. As early as the 1950s, Raul Hillberg estimated 1.1 million Jewish deaths in Auschwitz.
As well as in personal correspondence, the ICRC has addressed this misrepresentation by several other means. In 1975, the ICRC wrote to the Board of Deputies of British Jews in London regarding Harwood's citations, stating:
The figures cited by the author of the booklet are based upon statistics falsely attributed to us, evidently for the purpose of giving them credibility, despite the fact that we never publish information of this kind.
Would you like to see the fruits of Vatican II, do a search on YouTube under "Vatican II fruits" or "Vatican II" and you'll see it for your self.
If you want to know more about the Catholic Religion, I would suggest to read "The Catechism of the Council of Trent" and "Sources of catholic dogma by Dezinger".
You can also read writings from the following Saints:
1. Thomas aquinas
2. Cure de Ars
3. Alphonsus maria de liguori
And make sure you have your "Douay-Rheims " Bible.
WOW! The Novus Order Mass is 100% vatican aproved and is legit: These guys might as well be SSPX. You can be traditional, but do not ignore the Novus Ordere as it is the common norm for Worship, these are not real Catholic monks.
You're incorrect in calling them heretics. They don't deny any dogma/doctrine of the Catholic Church. In recent years Vatican officials have also clarified that the SSPX is not schismatic, but in an irregular (and I'll add unhealthy) canonical situation. We should try and foster a charitable climate toward the SSPX and pray for their speedy regularization. They can (and will be) a great asset to the Church in the future.
I guess you are rght, I only say that because their allegance isn't to Rome like it should be. I guess ouyr Church could use a bit of reconstruction, if only the Tridentine Mass were more prevelant every single SSPX would be in allegance with Rome. However with the attrocites I have seen (not 1sr hand perse) with Novus order (clown Masses, you can find these on youtube) I am not surprised they broke away.
so do I, but not all VII priests are like that, you are making a general assumption based on a small sample. That is like saying all Muslims are suicide bombers.
It's not based on a small sample, this is based on Vatican II priests that I meet in California, Texas and Mexico, and unfortunately many if not the majority believe in many of the heresies mentioned above.
It's rare to find a Priest that accepts all dogmas of the Catholic Church, many of them are old priests.
So its "unacceptable" to receive Communion under both species? and this notion is 2000 years old? Really? What did Jesus use at the Last Supper? And all other non Catholics are going to Hell? of course they are! Especially those 'evil Christ killing" Jews! right?
A few of the Transalpines were with some Fraternity priests in Austin on New Years Day. I was part of a schola that sung chant for the mass. It was an extreme privilege as you might imagine. It was actually my first Solemn High Mass, as the Parish I belong to only have enough clergy for Low Mass and Missa Cantata. But oh my, what a way to experience my first Solemn High Mass. It was extraordinary, no pun intended! :P
@Rabbitpen I spent Dec 30-Jan 2 in San Antonio. I saw the TAR at the Alamo, from a distance, and was fascinated by their attire/habits. I then was at St Mary's Catholic Student Center at Texas A&M in College Station and I ran into the very same gentlemen. i went and spoke with them and was very pleased to meet such representatives from such an order. I believe it was God's doing that I had the privilege to see them twice in a weeks time in two distant cities. It was divine providence.
Good video, but these monks are no longer Traditional Catholics. They have given-up fighting for the true faith and sacraments and have accepted Roman Protestantism. Sad but true. There is no Deo Gratias here. God didn't have anything to do with this, it was of their own free will.
@Oblationem For the love of God, pray the rosary and let go of your pride. The Vicar of Christ reigns, not perfectly, not even ideally, but he does reign.
We recently meet five of the brothers at the FSSP Seminary in Denton,NE, they are amazing people. Their stories about their paths to the Monastery were devinely inspiring. God Bless them all.
If you are not Catholic, there will be no reason that will convinced you about the Catholic Church.
The only thing I can tell you is that the Catholic Church up to today has been using Latin as the Language, and since the Church is assisted by the Holy Ghost we can't contradict it otherwise we would assume that it doesn't have any divine origin, therefore everything would be susceptible to change.
And finally, the Church can't contradict itself, Vatican II and NO contradicts its Dogma.
Jesus spoke in parables, made it simple for the people to understand Him with clarity....and BTW He preached in ARAMAIC not Latin.
Latin was the language of the Roman Empire and didn't become the language of the Church until the 4th Century. The Early Christians in the Catecombs were NOT officiating the "Tridentine Mass" in any way shape or form.
It's no up to you or me to decide if there's reason or not use Latin. Check the Church teachings in this regards, specially the documents of the Council of Trent (which was a dogmatic council).
Jesus preached in aramaic, but later on (and remember, the Church is assisted by the Holy Ghost) the Church adopted Latin as the official language.
In regards the Tridentine Mass, many of the liturgy goes back even to the days of the Catecombs, I'll point out which parts in another reply.
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This group has joined the world and the modern conciliar church. So, treat all the traditional features as pure theatre and know that their underlying theology is now modernist and at odds with the true Catholic faith that existed before the terrible Vatican 2 reforms.
The priest said that the spiritual is as real as the table. But you can see, measure, weigh, touch the table. The spiritual isn't necessarily the way he thinks or believes it is. He believes there is a hell and I don't. If we debate the weight of the table, it can be settled by weighing it. With the spiritual, we have to die to find out who is right.
this presumes that both sides believe that "weighing" DOES give the actual weight of the table. it still involves a measure of faith or trust in the weighing machine, the person doing the weighing, and how to interpret the weighing. the difference is that we AGREE quite easily on how weighing works, but we do NOT agree on how to "measure" the existence/indicators of the spiritual realm.
They had been affiliated with SSPX but are now reconciled with the Roman Catholic Church after petitioning the Holy See . In June 2008, Pope Benedict XVI accepted their petition and declared them in "canonical good standing" within the Roman Catholic Church. After this, their official name was changed to The Sons of the Most Holy Redeemer (F.SS.R.) and officially a new congregation was setup by the church hierarchy. They now have a monastery in New Zealand as well.
I tell you my fellow Christians, that all the sins in this world is accountable to the churches, for if they only unite and upheld free giving instead of buying and selling, there could be no robber and thieves among them, nor is there a chance for athiestic view to rise. The Way of God had suffered abusive speech from the enemies of God because the churches are harlot.
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lt's too bad all of them are unfortunately heretics and schismatics, for they are part of the SSPX, which is a schismatic and heretical association in itself, and because they recognize a manifestly heretical apostate as a true Pope, Ratzinger, and because they are in communion with him and the Novus Ordo, which is not the Catholic Church, but a fake posing as the Church.
They should have adopted the sedevacantist position instead, which is the only true and Catholic position right now.
Yes, indeed Iknow the difference between a living and a dead language. Obviously, you don't. I also know the difference between a learned and unlearned person.
I just now got to this page,,, But do you think that you will earn points by bragging on yourself and putting someone down maybe you know the differnce of a learned and unlearned language but I guess younever learned it is easier to catch flies with honey or use this as a learning experience and teaching someone or as the scripture says a soft answer turneth away wrath instead you come off as someone who thinks he is all that
Latin...a dead language? Let me quote Abraham Lincoln: "It's better to keep one's mouth shut and let others think of you as a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."
It makes me sad that the posts here are basically parties throwing insults at each other.
The video shows a a non-believer being touched by a few simple gestures and gifts from those deeply rooted in their faith, and you have reduced it to a juvenile argument over the use of Latin.
V2 did not abolish the use of Latin, it enabled the use of the vernacular.
Mad, angry, not quite there yet and then let´s search for the Latin equivalent...hmm. Look to Christ :-) Just enjoy God`s creation. Stop hating. And I don´t smoke pot :-) Peace. But I will not go to Scotland cause I know they hate krauts. Still there are other places to go to. But peace man!
"..the actual Church will worship the Living God via living languages."
The Mass isn't about "understanding". It's about faith. For centuries the Latin Mass was of benefit to peasant and scholar alike, because it's efficacy wasn't linked to intellect. It was an act of devotion, not an intellectual exercise. I have no problem with good English translations, but Latin unifies and connects Western Christians to all that went before. Does a blind and deaf person not benefit from the Mass?
you cannot love what you do not know. Why should one privileged group who understands Latin "understand" and so many that don't be so excluded? Following your logic all, priest and people of God, should worship in a language that neither understand and just let "faith" preside.
It's not a question of intellect, thats your slant, its a question of participation. Why should one privileged order be more of a participant than another via an excluding language?
What on earth are you harping on about, kangeroo boy?
Haven't you read what the church has been saying about the importance of sacred languages, especially Latin, for the last two millennia even up to this present day.
Why this, why that - Dummy. Do some reading to understand 'why'. Get an education.
Hey, bonehead, try reading the Gospel some time. You'll find that the Lord was no mincer of words. Nor was he particularly fond of hypocrites - "Rabid" indeed, Mr. love and peace anti-insult kangeroo-hugger.
You might want to get some help with your reading comprehension too. You do realise you just asked another 'why' question don't you? Grow up. You're not a two-year-old pining for mommy's attention any more. Get an education. Read a book. Read an encyclical if you want to know 'why'.
All "living" languages evolve. "Mad" was the word for "crazy" in Shakespeare's time. Now it means "angry." Latin is only "dead" in terms of evolution, but the great benefit is that what Latin words and phrases meant hundreds of years ago still means the same today. Preserving true meaning!
God does not favor one language over the other. Latin is the official language of the Church and is tied with tradition, reverence, and beauty--now who wouldn't want to pray with such a beautiful language?
It seems that some of you did not get my point. I know that "mad" still means "crazy" today. I was merely pointing out a difference between the evolution of language and, as you pointed out, regional differences that affects the understanding of people towards the same thing. Latin is no longer affected by these evolution that it has now become universal.
If you know it means 'crazy' then don't make inaccurate statements in future, such as: '"Mad" was the word for "crazy" in Shakespeare's time. Now it means "angry."'
Language is intimately related to human being. Just as human being is not static, so too with the language in and by which we engage with the world, in which our understanding develops. A fixed language reveals a static human being. Why too, in such a dynamic relationship between human being and God, should a static language inhibit that relationship? Rather all living languages should be the norm of worship, otherwise we commit the sin of Babel, and restrain God to one mode of grammar.
Latin presents a constant in terms of understanding the vulgate & many other church documents written with it. The intended meaning & context of each writing is preserved because Latin no longer "evolves" & retains its original meaning through the centuries. We know the context & meaning of the writings because of this constant instead of wondering what the writings mean depending on the evolution of the language every time period. This does not imply, at all, that other languages are inferior.
Yes it is indeed useful for such research, that's true, but language is always more than just a tool with which to interpret texts which is why there is a great need to discuss whether a now dead language is appropriate in expressing a living relationship of faith and worship. In such context too we need to ask if a language which was once that of prestige and power, and then one of compulsory adherence says anything about the Gospel? The Gospel conditions the practice not the other way round.
I love the old Latin Mass, and old devotions, hymns, chant, nuns in habits and all the rest. Those who embrace these things though, while at the same time mouthing anti-Semitic diatribe and other extreme right wing comments, make Traditionalists look like a bunch of lunatics. Hate and self righteous smugness have been part of tradition too, sad to say.
How can a mere langugae, a dead langugae at that, be "incorruptable"? You show clearly the reactionary idolatry of its worship of linguistic form.
I'm happy for you lot to wander off and have your own idolatrous static rituals, if that is your need, but the actual Church will worship the Living God via living languages.
But is that because of language or other actual reasons?
Maybe actual problems like clerical abuse (and the appalling resistance to accounatability by hierarchy) are more to blame, or the creeping totalitarianism that has stunted theological creativity and insight. Regardless of the current problems, that doesnt excuse making the problem worse by retreating into baroque theatre so to appease spiritual immaturity and myopia. This is a symptom of decline rather than of confidence.
I think that the language is the cause of the clerical abuse, it destroyed the unity of the church and everyone started doing whatever he wanted to do.
And yes, i am aware that there are parts of the Church that have celebrated in other languages than Latin long before, but they have own long lasting traditions that are preserved rigorously, and didn't come from a sudden break.
if language is the cause of clerical abuse I want to see church defense teams use that in court. "No your honour , it wasnt the fault of Father so and so here on trial, or of the hierarchy that knew and yet maintained their structural privilege, it was , um, er, because they dont worship in Latin anymore."
I hope you can see how foolish and callous your point is.
I think too that you will find that clerical abuse has been perpetrated both before and after the trivial changes in language.
jesus was Aramaic speaking, but Hebrew was hardly an alien language to him, it was one of the native languages of israel.Latin is not a native language to anywhere other than the Vatican bureacracy and rabid conservatives.
But following your logic,Hebrew should be our liturgical language rather than latin - the language of Imperial Rome.
You and others simply want such a dead language so to reinforce your own sense of separateness, locking the Good News away in rigid formulae and cultic secrecy.
LOL, but it has changed many times despite the hubris of a declaration in 1570 to hold back the tide of Spirit. Do you think that the mass should remain in stasis according to the needs of a very particular time of the Church? Do you not know how much the Tridentine mass was different to mass of previous centuries? Why do you reactionaries cling to one small period of the Church as if that was all there ever was and has been since?
There HAVE been variations in the Mass, but all pre-Vatican I and II variations or rites shared common elements: the priest functioned AS a priest and intercessor; priest and people faced east and the altar together; Latin was used; "sacrifice", reverence, and the Real presence were stressed; historical continuity was palpable; the Virgin and saints were not marginalized in the liturgy; faith was elevated over an intellectual "understanding" of the Mass.
thankfully biblical scholarship has (since Vat 11) been allowed to properly inform liturgy, hence the "intercessory" role has been minimized allowing the actual worshipping community to be included rather than as obedient spectators. Why should virgin and saints be kept as near central to the mass? It is not a matter of so called intellectual priority, rather one of recognising mere cultural accretions irrelevant to the mass and how the People of God had been excluded from worship.
wow how amazing is that! he was so moved! I didn't like the American guy saying he 'earned merit' to gain salvation...perhaps he meant well but his explanation leaves a lot to be desired. Salvation is not earned but given. We receive Faith and we do good works - charitable works on the way to salvation. We aren't brownie point type of people..
I'm happy these folks rejoined the Catholic Church. They display, I think, real holiness - and that leads you right back to Jesus and the Body of Christ with its vicar.
Remember that monks are to focus on God. Times of silence, especially during meal time, helps to keep that. There are times of community recreation when talking is permitted along with some relaxation. Hope this helps †
Nobody that witnessed Jesus wrote anything down. Coincidence?
We don't even know if he was the son of God because we only have second hand accounts. No witnesses wrote ANYTHING down about him, which is especially strange given that the Romans crucified a guy which set off earthquakes and darkened the sun.
Then the earliest Christian writer, Paul, claims that Jesus never even EXISTED on earth.
Then you have the dead sea scrolls written before & after Jesus that mention NOTHING about him also.
Laudetur Jesus Christus!
I would really like to visit these beautiful traditional Catholic persons. May God bless them with many vocations.
henrikhankhagnell 3 months ago
great video
want2becatholicmonk 3 months ago
award worthy --thank you for this .
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niwanthiumara 9 months ago
That was a great video, especially at the end.
pskahill 9 months ago
What a likable man the host is... There is an example of an unbeliever who is not of bad intent. I'm sure God will lead him.
arthurhowardpl 9 months ago
I have been a traditionalist and it has worth, but without the inner spiritual (and psychological) change, all the chants, schedules, prayers, and historic decorations is an elaborate hobby.
andrjsh 11 months ago
I hadnt heard of this community. Certainly thriving . . . but fundamentalists?
newgeorge 1 year ago
This is beautiful.... the gift of time the English author spent on Papa's island meant (as we came to see), that Mr. N will not become lost or fall into a pit, but rather shall sail on to Heaven by His Mercy and Grace. The Rosary was such a fitting and most loving gesture! Thank you for the splendid video, so enjoyable!
TheJbach 1 year ago
Looking through the comments, there seem to be a lot of haters.
Ignorant people, despisers of Christ and his Church.....I think this must be one of the greatest ringing endorsements that Traditional Catholics can recieve.
If the world persecutes and reviles you as it did with Christ, then you must be doing something right.
I have a lot of time for Traditional Catholics.
They go against the flow to do what they believe is truly right, in an unselfish way.
Cathain78 1 year ago
What an absolutely, fair, and beautiful production. Those are traditional Catholics, touching a man.
TheBaneOfAmbiguity 1 year ago
No, The Freemasons SHALL INHERIT THE WORLD!!!
proudfreemason 1 year ago
@proudfreemason it was never yours to inherit.
mpbest9 1 year ago
@mpbest9 I believe you intelligence is certainly lacking. The very word "Inherit" means to obtain from somewhere or someone else, so you totally missed the point, Goyam! We will inherit the Earth FROM YOU!
proudfreemason 1 year ago
@proudfreemason The world is Christ's and the fullness thereof. You who speak like a zionist, gentile hating jew, will inherit flames. Yes, inherit, I know the word well, obviously you do not. It is your hour, Judas, the hour of shadows.
mpbest9 1 year ago
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proudfreemason 1 year ago
@mpbest9 Your words of full of emptiness and in consequence. The roost from which you appeal from, is absolutely full of holes and so far fetched that even a blind-man (Mentally) can see chinks through his other 5 senses. Don't you see, can you not form an opinion of your own? Can you not sense that Religion was put forth to create CHAOS? It is our means to create some sort of ORDER out of the CHAOS with which you have all propagated under false pretense. Trust it, that what you preach is wrong!
proudfreemason 1 year ago
@proudfreemason Get behind me satan. Your words are poison. Drink the poison yourself.
mpbest9 1 year ago
@mpbest9 Bible thumping will get you no where...Here or Celestial speaking..You are BRAINWASHED!
proudfreemason 1 year ago
@proudfreemason The word "Goyim" means (in modernity) non-Jew. You, Sir are a Salian Frank. Despite whatever pipe dreams you would like to believe about your bloodline, it has nothing in common with the Hebrew bloodline. You even misspelled the word - Goyim!
"We have to recognize that Jewish blood and the blood of a goy are not the same thing." - Rabbi Ginsburg “Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel" - Rabbi Yosef
michaelrose93 1 year ago
@michaelrose93 First off you pathetic fool and obviously not very well "read". Pick up a book and realize that there are many explanations to a word, yours not being correct. You use ONE MAN's blurb as an example and propel it like it's fact. Your again, NOT FOOLING ANYONE! You insist on being beaten up verbally?
goy [gɔɪ]
n pl goyim [ˈgɔɪɪm], goys
(Non-Christian Religions / Judaism) a Jewish word for a gentile
[from Yiddish, from Hebrew goi people]
goyish adj
So, as you can see your
proudfreemason 1 year ago
@proudfreemason I was quite aware of the origins of the word 'goy' when I wrote that, which is why I wrote "Goyim means (in modernity) non-Jew". Let me break that statement down for you - 'In modern times, goyim has come to mean non-Jew'. The word has not been used to mean 'nation' for many years silly. Don't you know how to use a dictionary? See, the top part is the definition. The part where it says 'from' is the etymology, big word - sorry. Etymology means it's origin, not it's modern use.
michaelrose93 1 year ago
This will be my last communique to you. Speaking with you has absolutely no resolve. I am speaking to a Person with no Moral compass and obviously someone hell bent on promoting his Church. I am not here to deny you your Church, what I am saying is that YOUR CHURCH is causing a lot of wrought and turm-oil across the lands. One World Religion makes sense. You can pray to whomever you like + everyone can then get along and forget religious intolerance.I know it would work for me.Bye forever
proudfreemason 1 year ago
This will be my last communique to you. Speaking with you has absolutely no resolve. I am speaking to a Person with no Moral compass and obviously someone hell bent on promoting his Church. I am not here to deny you your Church, what I am saying is that YOUR CHURCH is causing a lot of wrought and term-oil across the lands. One World Religion makes sense. You can pray to whomever you like + everyone can then get along and forget religious intolerance.I know it would work for me.Bye forever
proudfreemason 1 year ago
@proudfreemason My Church? Haha - Who said I go to church? I have not gone to church for 26 years! You are the one who claims to go to church - AND the one who claims that "religion is a bad creation of man". Bit confused aren't ya laddy? No, not really, since Luther's symbol was a Rose-Croix! You are however the weakest propagandist for the Order I've ever encountered. You make Masons look like arrogant pricks. Fortunately you do NOT represent all - many Masons are respectable people. 93 93/93
michaelrose93 1 year ago
@proudfreemason
Whereas the righteous shall inherit the Kingdom of Heaven.
Enjoy your corrupt world while it lasts. The only light you have recieved comes from the fires of Hell.
For your father has nothing more to offer you.
Cathain78 1 year ago
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michaelrose93 1 year ago
@proudfreemason < "The Freemasons SHALL INHERIT THE WORLD!!!" As opposed to the peacemakers? So the Freemasons are NOT the peacemakers? Fascinating. . . .
michaelrose93 1 year ago
@michaelrose93 Mr.Rose, I have asked you to go about your business. If you wish to keep on pretending to be a warrior of good that's fine, but your not fooling anyone. Yes, "WE SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH"! Freemasonry is what is needed on this Planet. Wars/Turm-oil and outright Law of the Jungle is rampant in EVERY MAJOR CITY. Freemasonry teaches Brotherly Love, Relief and Truth. If these principles were followed which they will or face the consequences we have Utopia on Earth! SO MOTE IT BE.
proudfreemason 1 year ago
@proudfreemason I would like to believe Masonry is to bring a utopia. Why should I however? Many of the wars and turmoil you speak of are a direct result OF Masonry. When is all this to end? In both French AND Russian revolutions, guys are running around wearing phrygian caps. . . Ordo ab Chao? The Russian revolution was horrible. What is to be the fate of the world? "Americana?" or "The new Soviet"? America is currently marching to the left. Things are getting worse, NOT better. - Great Work!
michaelrose93 1 year ago
@michaelrose93 I state "BROTHERLY LOVE" for those whom walk with us - For ALL the others, something needs to change and it will, trust us. Imagine a place of worship where you have 7 different types of Religion under one roof without conflict, now that is called proper and right. Religion is a bad creation of Man, there should be no separation. The way to GOD is through one-self, not through "halving your pay check" and "opening doors for the elderly". Wake up, your a Dinosaur spiritually!
proudfreemason 1 year ago
@proudfreemason You are so self-contradictory. You say "Religion is a bad creation of Man" - but just recently you also said "I am a Christian. In fact, I literally JUST GOT BACK FROM MY CHURCH about 10 minutes ago". Interesting. So were you lying then or lying now, or do you EVER tell the truth?
michaelrose93 1 year ago
@michaelrose93 haha - So, this is where your intelligence GLEAMS THROUGH!! Christianity IS NOT a Religious organization, is it? What a pathetic fool you are. You sir, need to listen when a Man speaks and not soak your Brain with opinionated streams of nothingness. As I stated, RELIGION is a creation to divide - The Catholic Church is the biggest example of that. To believe in Christ as our savior does not mean I have to be Catholic/Protestant or any other organized religion.ONE RELIGION WORKS!
proudfreemason 1 year ago
@proudfreemason "ONE RELIGION" Eh? Sounds familiar - sounds Catholic even, since that was Rome's idea first! Anyone find it a bit odd how the Jesuits were banned in 1773, and in 1776 old Weishaupt (Jesuit Jew) pops up, OR that Knigge accused him of being a 'Jesuit in disguise' when he broke from the Order in 1784? "The Jesuits". . ."the intelligencia of the Church were and in some cases still are Freemasons" - Nelson King FPS. / Blavatsky also spoke clearly in 'Isis Unveiled' of the collusion.
michaelrose93 1 year ago
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Domodeath 1 year ago
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DreamsofMajesty 1 year ago
One of the most beautiful videos on YT. God bless these wonderful, gentle men of God and their deep and passionate concern for all of us on this earth, and their longing for us all to be heaven with Jesus forever.
VictoriaRu29 1 year ago 2
What about the Celtic Christian church ? How about the pre whittby Celtic church. ?
tenorismo 1 year ago 2
@tenorismo
What of it? They came to accept the Latin date for Easter and carried on with their loyal service to the Church.
Cathain78 1 year ago
@Cathain78 What of it ? they had to surrender to the latins at the synod of Whitby.
tenorismo 1 year ago
@tenorismo
"Surrendur to the Latins?"
Bit dramatic really, isn't it? They agreed two things - to change the date they calculated Easter on, and the tonsure of their head shaving for the monks. Both hardly ground shaking events, which even Cummian, an abbot among the Irish contigent, agreed where really trivial. Far more important was uniformity with the rest of the Church which the Irish were a part of as much as anyone else.
Cathain78 1 year ago
@Cathain78 Either the latin church or Invasionand the sword.
tenorismo 1 year ago
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DreamsofMajesty 1 year ago
i was so lucky to meet 6 of the brothers on board a flight from Rome, we talked and laughed together, I was the flight-attendant, and at the end of the journey I received a beautiful rosary from them! Very special to meet these monks.
They are special people! Thank you Brother Ivan for the youtube site and your mail address! Super!
cubosensaj 1 year ago 6
They are no longer the Transalpine Redemptorists of Papa Stronsay, but now are the Sons of the Most Holy Redeemer
TheEcumenator 1 year ago
These monks are really cool. And they're even better nowadays, because they are in full communion now.
ToleDragoon 1 year ago 2
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to the young man in the monastery : ¨flee for your life; flee for your soul; go sow your seed ... in a virgin and have children ... five of them ... monasticism ... a load of bollocks
3NUNS 1 year ago
@3NUNS Did you seriously put under your own description of yourself "Polymath"?
rumpranger65 1 year ago
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the biretta ... the devil´s hat
3NUNS 1 year ago
the biretta ... the devil´s hat
3NUNS 1 year ago
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what are they doing ? finding happiness in misery ...
3NUNS 1 year ago
I am not catholic, but these monks are followers, for sure!
InDefenseofChrist 1 year ago
True traditionalists do not follow Vatican II and the blasphemy of the pope. For when man claims himself equal to God or denies Jesus Christ as our savior, he is an Antichrist.
ksplucker 1 year ago
Salvation is through Christ alone nothing we Humans can do can earn us Salvation.
rrond8th 1 year ago 2
Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. Matthew 15:3, 6, 7 "Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? [Y]e made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition. Ye hypocrites."
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
It seems to me that your philosophy is hypocritical, as Traditional Catholics are holding on to the teachings of Christ. When quoting Colossians 2:8 it is Protestants and Novus Ordos that cheat with vain deceit according to the traditions of men, according to the elements of the world, and not according to Christ. By their fruits you shall know them eh? Who is the hypocrite twisting scripture to your personal interpretation?
Oblationem 1 year ago
@Oblationem Why are traditional catholics so pathetic? Why do have such a hard time dealing with reality???? You are so pathetic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TML7777777 1 year ago
TML7777777 You need to learn how to state the facts or your opinion, rather than making YOU statements and calling names. It is not I that ends up looking pathetic.
Oblationem 1 year ago
@Oblationem Unlike you, I don't back a idiot who denies the holocaust !!! Like every other traditional catholic you are a coward!
TML7777777 1 year ago
@TML7777777
Whos the idiot? Show us all where he has denied the holocaust. Study up and grow up.
Oblationem 1 year ago
@Oblationem Why doesn't your " champion" go to Germany and proclaim the "truths about the holocaust" if you are so sure of yourselves. By the way, when it comes to growing up, try looking in the mirror oh wise one!
TML7777777 1 year ago
I dont think he is going to go to Germany because if you speak the truth about the Holocaust in Germany, they will put you in prison. Freedom of speech that goes against the German governments position is not so free. There is no debating the issue. They will tell you what to think. The German Government hasent changed all that much have they? You will obey
Oblationem 1 year ago
@Oblationem What? They do allow the truth, 6 million Jews died. What are you talking about?
MattMystrieo 1 year ago
@MattMystrieo
Even the Auschwitz museum has lowered the number of Jews killed there from 4 million to 1.5 million, and Red Cross records reveal far fewer than 1 million deaths, it does not bode well for the number six million. Unless there’s a new kind of math where six million minus any sum must always equal six million.
Oblationem 1 month ago
@Oblationem The lower numbers are due to the fact that the Soviets "purposely overstated the number of non-Jewish casualties at Auschwitz-Birkenau," according to the Simon Wiesenthal Center. Holocaust deniers insist that the number of Jews killed therefore be lowered by at least 2.5 million. However, the plaque had never been used as an accurate historical source by mainstream historians. As early as the 1950s, Raul Hillberg estimated 1.1 million Jewish deaths in Auschwitz.
TheAntiV 2 weeks ago
@Oblationem
As well as in personal correspondence, the ICRC has addressed this misrepresentation by several other means. In 1975, the ICRC wrote to the Board of Deputies of British Jews in London regarding Harwood's citations, stating:
The figures cited by the author of the booklet are based upon statistics falsely attributed to us, evidently for the purpose of giving them credibility, despite the fact that we never publish information of this kind.
TheAntiV 2 weeks ago
@Oblationem
That is one of the most blatant lies I've read on YouTube.
Trying to DENY the Holocaust in Germany will see you thrown in jail.
You have obviously never been here.
What a liar!
Giesabrekk 1 year ago
Would you like to see the fruits of Vatican II, do a search on YouTube under "Vatican II fruits" or "Vatican II" and you'll see it for your self.
If you want to know more about the Catholic Religion, I would suggest to read "The Catechism of the Council of Trent" and "Sources of catholic dogma by Dezinger".
You can also read writings from the following Saints:
1. Thomas aquinas
2. Cure de Ars
3. Alphonsus maria de liguori
And make sure you have your "Douay-Rheims " Bible.
garciadelacadena 2 years ago 2
WOW! The Novus Order Mass is 100% vatican aproved and is legit: These guys might as well be SSPX. You can be traditional, but do not ignore the Novus Ordere as it is the common norm for Worship, these are not real Catholic monks.
cheesemonkey1990 2 years ago
Actually, they were SSPX affiliated, and are now in full communion with the Church thanks to Pope Benedict.
The Novus Ordo Mass was written by Freemason Annibale Bugnini. Long live Pope Benedict XVI. Thank God for Summorum Pontificum!
BeachCoop 2 years ago 2
thats good, SSPX are heretics in my book.
cheesemonkey1990 2 years ago
You're incorrect in calling them heretics. They don't deny any dogma/doctrine of the Catholic Church. In recent years Vatican officials have also clarified that the SSPX is not schismatic, but in an irregular (and I'll add unhealthy) canonical situation. We should try and foster a charitable climate toward the SSPX and pray for their speedy regularization. They can (and will be) a great asset to the Church in the future.
BeachCoop 2 years ago
I guess you are rght, I only say that because their allegance isn't to Rome like it should be. I guess ouyr Church could use a bit of reconstruction, if only the Tridentine Mass were more prevelant every single SSPX would be in allegance with Rome. However with the attrocites I have seen (not 1sr hand perse) with Novus order (clown Masses, you can find these on youtube) I am not surprised they broke away.
cheesemonkey1990 2 years ago
The SSPX and all other break away ''catholics" are just as good as Protestants, no?
NativeNewYorkGuy 2 years ago
Is that a Luther's book?
garciadelacadena 2 years ago
@cheesemonkey1990
They now accept the validity of the OF. They have been reconciled to Rome not so long ago. They actually now criticize the SSPX.
BlackCappa 2 years ago
good to know.
cheesemonkey1990 2 years ago
The Novus Ordo is the result of a product of Vatican II and the process of a creation a new Religion.
I've talked to many Vatican II priests, and they are heretics, among a few heresies the believe are:
- All religions are path to Salvation.
- Purgatory doesn't exist.
- Hell doesn't exist.
- It's acceptable to have communion under both forms. (Witnessed this by my self and I am sure that more than one will say that this is ok)
I believe in the Church of more than 2000 years and its dogmas.
garciadelacadena 2 years ago
so do I, but not all VII priests are like that, you are making a general assumption based on a small sample. That is like saying all Muslims are suicide bombers.
cheesemonkey1990 2 years ago
It's not based on a small sample, this is based on Vatican II priests that I meet in California, Texas and Mexico, and unfortunately many if not the majority believe in many of the heresies mentioned above.
It's rare to find a Priest that accepts all dogmas of the Catholic Church, many of them are old priests.
garciadelacadena 2 years ago
So its "unacceptable" to receive Communion under both species? and this notion is 2000 years old? Really? What did Jesus use at the Last Supper? And all other non Catholics are going to Hell? of course they are! Especially those 'evil Christ killing" Jews! right?
So much TRADITION and NO Christianity.
NativeNewYorkGuy 2 years ago
3:15 YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE CATHOLIC TO BELIEVE IN GOD!!! Ignorant brit.
cheesemonkey1990 2 years ago
God gave us a Religion, and its our obligation to practice it in order to serve him in the way it pleases him.
garciadelacadena 2 years ago
The cows are so cute! I love Jersey cows. :3
God bless!
burgy76 2 years ago
A few of the Transalpines were with some Fraternity priests in Austin on New Years Day. I was part of a schola that sung chant for the mass. It was an extreme privilege as you might imagine. It was actually my first Solemn High Mass, as the Parish I belong to only have enough clergy for Low Mass and Missa Cantata. But oh my, what a way to experience my first Solemn High Mass. It was extraordinary, no pun intended! :P
Rabbitpen 2 years ago
@Rabbitpen I spent Dec 30-Jan 2 in San Antonio. I saw the TAR at the Alamo, from a distance, and was fascinated by their attire/habits. I then was at St Mary's Catholic Student Center at Texas A&M in College Station and I ran into the very same gentlemen. i went and spoke with them and was very pleased to meet such representatives from such an order. I believe it was God's doing that I had the privilege to see them twice in a weeks time in two distant cities. It was divine providence.
vanhecht 2 years ago
@vanhecht Oh, that's amazing! Divine Providence indeed!
Rabbitpen 2 years ago
They have come to full communion with Rome!
Deo Gratias!!!
TheEcumenator 2 years ago 22
@TheEcumenator Yea that is good news!Thanks Benedict XVI!!! He'll be in the UK soon!!!
Bebekoualy 1 year ago
@TheEcumenator Deo Gratias
ashpod84 1 year ago
@TheEcumenator
Good video, but these monks are no longer Traditional Catholics. They have given-up fighting for the true faith and sacraments and have accepted Roman Protestantism. Sad but true. There is no Deo Gratias here. God didn't have anything to do with this, it was of their own free will.
Oblationem 5 months ago
@Oblationem For the love of God, pray the rosary and let go of your pride. The Vicar of Christ reigns, not perfectly, not even ideally, but he does reign.
williamwallac94 1 month ago
We recently meet five of the brothers at the FSSP Seminary in Denton,NE, they are amazing people. Their stories about their paths to the Monastery were devinely inspiring. God Bless them all.
rolltideinn 2 years ago 2
I belive they are now with the FSSP and not the SSPX anymore.
dacatholicbandorgan 2 years ago 2
It shouldn't matter at all what language prayers and Mass are said in at all - God understands.
LeHiGuy1 2 years ago
Well using Latin-the Official language of the Church which Christ founded doesn't hurt.
dacatholicbandorgan 2 years ago 6
Jesus nor any of the Apostles spoke Latin....Latin the language of the Roman occupiers was repudiated by the Jews in Palestine.
Not 1 book of t he NT was written in Latin
And the liturgical language of the early Christians was Greek, even in Rome.
It seems that all this talk about "tradition" leaves out one important factor> GOD.
Where is God in all this ritual and tradition?
Does God really care about Latin? or about the "smells & bells" ? Phariseeism lives on, I see!
NativeNewYorkGuy 2 years ago
It does matter because the Church it's Universal and as such should have a Universal Language.
I would recommend you to "experience" the Tridentine Mass and then compare it against the Novus Ordo, you'll have a pleasant surprise.
garciadelacadena 2 years ago
@garciadelacadena True the Church is Universal. Universal does not uniform as it encompasses many cultures and languages.
Latin in Africa or the Mexican highlands?
If the Church must have a liturgical language maybe it should Aramaic not Latin.
The NO is canonical, if you prefer the Latin go for it but no need to knock the rest.
I have attended a few Tridentine Masses and found it quite boring to be totally honest.
NativeNewYorkGuy 2 years ago
If you are not Catholic, there will be no reason that will convinced you about the Catholic Church.
The only thing I can tell you is that the Catholic Church up to today has been using Latin as the Language, and since the Church is assisted by the Holy Ghost we can't contradict it otherwise we would assume that it doesn't have any divine origin, therefore everything would be susceptible to change.
And finally, the Church can't contradict itself, Vatican II and NO contradicts its Dogma.
garciadelacadena 2 years ago
I am Catholic but see no reason to use Latin.
Jesus spoke in parables, made it simple for the people to understand Him with clarity....and BTW He preached in ARAMAIC not Latin.
Latin was the language of the Roman Empire and didn't become the language of the Church until the 4th Century. The Early Christians in the Catecombs were NOT officiating the "Tridentine Mass" in any way shape or form.
Yes, its been susceptible to change all along.
NativeNewYorkGuy 2 years ago
It's no up to you or me to decide if there's reason or not use Latin. Check the Church teachings in this regards, specially the documents of the Council of Trent (which was a dogmatic council).
Jesus preached in aramaic, but later on (and remember, the Church is assisted by the Holy Ghost) the Church adopted Latin as the official language.
In regards the Tridentine Mass, many of the liturgy goes back even to the days of the Catecombs, I'll point out which parts in another reply.
God Bless!!
garciadelacadena 2 years ago
Latin is a dead language, therefore incorruptible.
It is used universally throughout the world by Catholics, the basis for most European languages.
The Tridentine Mass, and a form(s) like it, has been used close to 1600-1800 years.
The Other Eastern Rites are similar.
Tridentine was Canonized by Pope Pius V
It cannot be altered or substituted.
Yet, Christs Own words were change in the Canon
Vatican 2 was a Judeo-Masonic Hijacking and it has been devastating
THE PLOT AGAINST THE CHURCH-Pinay
StSimonOfTrent 1 year ago
I have lost all belief in God, but not good people. This video has made a big difference in my life. Thank you.
irishjock33 2 years ago 8
With respect may I ask why have you "lost all belief in God"?
HolyCatholicApostoli 2 years ago
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This group has joined the world and the modern conciliar church. So, treat all the traditional features as pure theatre and know that their underlying theology is now modernist and at odds with the true Catholic faith that existed before the terrible Vatican 2 reforms.
OliverWessex 2 years ago
Every way of keeping the tradition are useless if you give a step away from Peter.
fedegr33 2 years ago 2
Amen!
11000001100000 2 years ago
The priest said that the spiritual is as real as the table. But you can see, measure, weigh, touch the table. The spiritual isn't necessarily the way he thinks or believes it is. He believes there is a hell and I don't. If we debate the weight of the table, it can be settled by weighing it. With the spiritual, we have to die to find out who is right.
clearjr1 2 years ago
this presumes that both sides believe that "weighing" DOES give the actual weight of the table. it still involves a measure of faith or trust in the weighing machine, the person doing the weighing, and how to interpret the weighing. the difference is that we AGREE quite easily on how weighing works, but we do NOT agree on how to "measure" the existence/indicators of the spiritual realm.
alveolate 2 years ago
They had been affiliated with SSPX but are now reconciled with the Roman Catholic Church after petitioning the Holy See . In June 2008, Pope Benedict XVI accepted their petition and declared them in "canonical good standing" within the Roman Catholic Church. After this, their official name was changed to The Sons of the Most Holy Redeemer (F.SS.R.) and officially a new congregation was setup by the church hierarchy. They now have a monastery in New Zealand as well.
boomalat 2 years ago 2
That means the do not claim the new mass is invalid, well good thing they have left the SSPX and joined with the church.
karpov89 2 years ago
The first christians were Greeks. They would not have said mass in latin. Jesus did not speak latin.
For the Superior to say that the language is the same as 2000 years ago is misleading.
Washing dishes "earns you merit and leads to salvation" This simplist view from the mouth of an initiate who thinks he has a priestly vocation?
Love the raft race.Love the "philosophical" discussion.
Adam seems to leave with a more open mind!24h is so short a time to form an opinionnabout this community.
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I tell you my fellow Christians, that all the sins in this world is accountable to the churches, for if they only unite and upheld free giving instead of buying and selling, there could be no robber and thieves among them, nor is there a chance for athiestic view to rise. The Way of God had suffered abusive speech from the enemies of God because the churches are harlot.
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conceil8 2 years ago
Oh, my Dearest Fathers and Brothers!
They are my friends!
Kalyna777 2 years ago
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lt's too bad all of them are unfortunately heretics and schismatics, for they are part of the SSPX, which is a schismatic and heretical association in itself, and because they recognize a manifestly heretical apostate as a true Pope, Ratzinger, and because they are in communion with him and the Novus Ordo, which is not the Catholic Church, but a fake posing as the Church.
They should have adopted the sedevacantist position instead, which is the only true and Catholic position right now.
Nekrohol 2 years ago
Is that Emma Thompson narrating?
daphluvsrickman 2 years ago
i like biscuits what kind of biscuits do you think the monks like
my guess is rich tea :)
phan22 2 years ago
No.
romankatholic 2 years ago
sounds like it!
omoteshuto 2 years ago
Beautiful, peaceful, an outward life of inner happiness. As a Catholic, this video makes my heart calm and serene. Very nice indeed.
gateofsunrise 2 years ago 4
A beautiful and inspiring film.
KSudbury 2 years ago 3
I love this video ! "Blessed are the peacemakers; for they shall inherit the world"
stancan2 2 years ago 11
@stancan2 So said by Sam Colt to his sixgun.
madisonelectronic 1 year ago
@madisonelectronic LOL I hope Sam Colt was not misquoted...
stancan2 1 year ago
rebecca, while you are tossing out scriptures, you might want to look at that which begins with..."judge not lest you be judged for whatsoever..."
doothless 2 years ago
Yes, indeed Iknow the difference between a living and a dead language. Obviously, you don't. I also know the difference between a learned and unlearned person.
doothless 2 years ago
well maybe you could restrain your knee jerk insults and simply explain the difference.
aussiewasteland 2 years ago
I just now got to this page,,, But do you think that you will earn points by bragging on yourself and putting someone down maybe you know the differnce of a learned and unlearned language but I guess younever learned it is easier to catch flies with honey or use this as a learning experience and teaching someone or as the scripture says a soft answer turneth away wrath instead you come off as someone who thinks he is all that
akrebecca001 2 years ago
Latin...a dead language? Let me quote Abraham Lincoln: "It's better to keep one's mouth shut and let others think of you as a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."
doothless 2 years ago
well doothless, you shouldnt have posted then. :) Do you know the difference between a living and a dead language?
aussiewasteland 2 years ago
It makes me sad that the posts here are basically parties throwing insults at each other.
The video shows a a non-believer being touched by a few simple gestures and gifts from those deeply rooted in their faith, and you have reduced it to a juvenile argument over the use of Latin.
V2 did not abolish the use of Latin, it enabled the use of the vernacular.
iandunin 2 years ago
Mad, angry, not quite there yet and then let´s search for the Latin equivalent...hmm. Look to Christ :-) Just enjoy God`s creation. Stop hating. And I don´t smoke pot :-) Peace. But I will not go to Scotland cause I know they hate krauts. Still there are other places to go to. But peace man!
TheZimzalabim 2 years ago
you should go to Scotland and meet the warm and friendly kraut loving people :)
domchristian 2 years ago
"..the actual Church will worship the Living God via living languages."
The Mass isn't about "understanding". It's about faith. For centuries the Latin Mass was of benefit to peasant and scholar alike, because it's efficacy wasn't linked to intellect. It was an act of devotion, not an intellectual exercise. I have no problem with good English translations, but Latin unifies and connects Western Christians to all that went before. Does a blind and deaf person not benefit from the Mass?
lichtbroeder 2 years ago
you cannot love what you do not know. Why should one privileged group who understands Latin "understand" and so many that don't be so excluded? Following your logic all, priest and people of God, should worship in a language that neither understand and just let "faith" preside.
It's not a question of intellect, thats your slant, its a question of participation. Why should one privileged order be more of a participant than another via an excluding language?
aussiewasteland 2 years ago
What on earth are you harping on about, kangeroo boy?
Haven't you read what the church has been saying about the importance of sacred languages, especially Latin, for the last two millennia even up to this present day.
Why this, why that - Dummy. Do some reading to understand 'why'. Get an education.
yodasbro 2 years ago
Ah yes, the loving witness of the rabid conservative. Forget the Gospel, privilege and insult is the norm.
So then yodasbro, explain to me why God would prefer us to worship in Latin.
aussiewasteland 2 years ago
Hey, bonehead, try reading the Gospel some time. You'll find that the Lord was no mincer of words. Nor was he particularly fond of hypocrites - "Rabid" indeed, Mr. love and peace anti-insult kangeroo-hugger.
You might want to get some help with your reading comprehension too. You do realise you just asked another 'why' question don't you? Grow up. You're not a two-year-old pining for mommy's attention any more. Get an education. Read a book. Read an encyclical if you want to know 'why'.
yodasbro 2 years ago
All "living" languages evolve. "Mad" was the word for "crazy" in Shakespeare's time. Now it means "angry." Latin is only "dead" in terms of evolution, but the great benefit is that what Latin words and phrases meant hundreds of years ago still means the same today. Preserving true meaning!
God does not favor one language over the other. Latin is the official language of the Church and is tied with tradition, reverence, and beauty--now who wouldn't want to pray with such a beautiful language?
happykatkat 2 years ago
'Mad' still means crazy in English. Well, real English anyway. Only in American English-lite does it mean 'angry'.
andy4009 2 years ago
It seems that some of you did not get my point. I know that "mad" still means "crazy" today. I was merely pointing out a difference between the evolution of language and, as you pointed out, regional differences that affects the understanding of people towards the same thing. Latin is no longer affected by these evolution that it has now become universal.
happykatkat 2 years ago
If you know it means 'crazy' then don't make inaccurate statements in future, such as: '"Mad" was the word for "crazy" in Shakespeare's time. Now it means "angry."'
andy4009 2 years ago
Language is intimately related to human being. Just as human being is not static, so too with the language in and by which we engage with the world, in which our understanding develops. A fixed language reveals a static human being. Why too, in such a dynamic relationship between human being and God, should a static language inhibit that relationship? Rather all living languages should be the norm of worship, otherwise we commit the sin of Babel, and restrain God to one mode of grammar.
aussiewasteland 2 years ago
Latin presents a constant in terms of understanding the vulgate & many other church documents written with it. The intended meaning & context of each writing is preserved because Latin no longer "evolves" & retains its original meaning through the centuries. We know the context & meaning of the writings because of this constant instead of wondering what the writings mean depending on the evolution of the language every time period. This does not imply, at all, that other languages are inferior.
happykatkat 2 years ago
Yes it is indeed useful for such research, that's true, but language is always more than just a tool with which to interpret texts which is why there is a great need to discuss whether a now dead language is appropriate in expressing a living relationship of faith and worship. In such context too we need to ask if a language which was once that of prestige and power, and then one of compulsory adherence says anything about the Gospel? The Gospel conditions the practice not the other way round.
aussiewasteland 2 years ago
I love the old Latin Mass, and old devotions, hymns, chant, nuns in habits and all the rest. Those who embrace these things though, while at the same time mouthing anti-Semitic diatribe and other extreme right wing comments, make Traditionalists look like a bunch of lunatics. Hate and self righteous smugness have been part of tradition too, sad to say.
lichtbroeder 2 years ago 2
How can a mere langugae, a dead langugae at that, be "incorruptable"? You show clearly the reactionary idolatry of its worship of linguistic form.
I'm happy for you lot to wander off and have your own idolatrous static rituals, if that is your need, but the actual Church will worship the Living God via living languages.
aussiewasteland 2 years ago
" (...) the actual Church will worship the Living God via living languages. "
funny that the "actual church" is dying in this process, eh?
4WCmOozpni 2 years ago
But is that because of language or other actual reasons?
Maybe actual problems like clerical abuse (and the appalling resistance to accounatability by hierarchy) are more to blame, or the creeping totalitarianism that has stunted theological creativity and insight. Regardless of the current problems, that doesnt excuse making the problem worse by retreating into baroque theatre so to appease spiritual immaturity and myopia. This is a symptom of decline rather than of confidence.
aussiewasteland 2 years ago
I think that the language is the cause of the clerical abuse, it destroyed the unity of the church and everyone started doing whatever he wanted to do.
And yes, i am aware that there are parts of the Church that have celebrated in other languages than Latin long before, but they have own long lasting traditions that are preserved rigorously, and didn't come from a sudden break.
4WCmOozpni 2 years ago
if language is the cause of clerical abuse I want to see church defense teams use that in court. "No your honour , it wasnt the fault of Father so and so here on trial, or of the hierarchy that knew and yet maintained their structural privilege, it was , um, er, because they dont worship in Latin anymore."
I hope you can see how foolish and callous your point is.
I think too that you will find that clerical abuse has been perpetrated both before and after the trivial changes in language.
aussiewasteland 2 years ago
why then did Jesus use Hebrew when it was not the native language?
fizmath 2 years ago
jesus was Aramaic speaking, but Hebrew was hardly an alien language to him, it was one of the native languages of israel.Latin is not a native language to anywhere other than the Vatican bureacracy and rabid conservatives.
But following your logic,Hebrew should be our liturgical language rather than latin - the language of Imperial Rome.
You and others simply want such a dead language so to reinforce your own sense of separateness, locking the Good News away in rigid formulae and cultic secrecy.
aussiewasteland 2 years ago
LOL, but it has changed many times despite the hubris of a declaration in 1570 to hold back the tide of Spirit. Do you think that the mass should remain in stasis according to the needs of a very particular time of the Church? Do you not know how much the Tridentine mass was different to mass of previous centuries? Why do you reactionaries cling to one small period of the Church as if that was all there ever was and has been since?
aussiewasteland 2 years ago
There HAVE been variations in the Mass, but all pre-Vatican I and II variations or rites shared common elements: the priest functioned AS a priest and intercessor; priest and people faced east and the altar together; Latin was used; "sacrifice", reverence, and the Real presence were stressed; historical continuity was palpable; the Virgin and saints were not marginalized in the liturgy; faith was elevated over an intellectual "understanding" of the Mass.
lichtbroeder 2 years ago
thankfully biblical scholarship has (since Vat 11) been allowed to properly inform liturgy, hence the "intercessory" role has been minimized allowing the actual worshipping community to be included rather than as obedient spectators. Why should virgin and saints be kept as near central to the mass? It is not a matter of so called intellectual priority, rather one of recognising mere cultural accretions irrelevant to the mass and how the People of God had been excluded from worship.
aussiewasteland 2 years ago
Adam's sincerity is palpable. Excellent video.
Vicar General implies non-bishop where "the break" with Rome is not a tear.
Hkepfer 2 years ago
I want to live in that kind of life.. ^_^
jericho019 2 years ago 4
wow how amazing is that! he was so moved! I didn't like the American guy saying he 'earned merit' to gain salvation...perhaps he meant well but his explanation leaves a lot to be desired. Salvation is not earned but given. We receive Faith and we do good works - charitable works on the way to salvation. We aren't brownie point type of people..
babyboinz2k 2 years ago
I wonder if a lay person like myself gets a chance to live here temporarily just for the experience.
thewayoutisin 2 years ago
I'm happy these folks rejoined the Catholic Church. They display, I think, real holiness - and that leads you right back to Jesus and the Body of Christ with its vicar.
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GodIsReal101 3 years ago
Nice documentary, thanks for Sharing "trady". By the way, is that true? The monks cant speak to each other during certain times?
FreezingMoonFog 3 years ago 2
Yes that is true. In many monastic communites there are times of silence. †
EvangeliumVitae1 2 years ago
Oh, wow. Ok, thanks.
FreezingMoonFog 2 years ago
Remember that monks are to focus on God. Times of silence, especially during meal time, helps to keep that. There are times of community recreation when talking is permitted along with some relaxation. Hope this helps †
EvangeliumVitae1 2 years ago
I see, yeah, thanks alot.
FreezingMoonFog 2 years ago
They want to keep you poor, so that you can not afford to leave.
coffeefish 3 years ago
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Nobody that witnessed Jesus wrote anything down. Coincidence?
We don't even know if he was the son of God because we only have second hand accounts. No witnesses wrote ANYTHING down about him, which is especially strange given that the Romans crucified a guy which set off earthquakes and darkened the sun.
Then the earliest Christian writer, Paul, claims that Jesus never even EXISTED on earth.
Then you have the dead sea scrolls written before & after Jesus that mention NOTHING about him also.
galtyyy 3 years ago
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MazBee 3 years ago
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I wasnt aware that the Good News was about adherence to an imperial language.
aussiewasteland 3 years ago