go kill yourself and shove 999 cocks up your ass you fucking disgrace of a human being, God i can't stand these billionaires who are obsessed with controlling us and giving them the ultimate breaks, 9-9-9 plan is a fucking joke, a high school economics class can debunk that shit plan in a matter of minutes, what sickens me is that people supported him, i fear this country i really do, Mitt Romney is no different, Ron Paul 2012!
Lies, lies, lies...fabricated by Big GOVT loving statists who want America to continue on its "glidepath to implosion". Reform of the tax code is the enemy of their agenda.
Once America has collapsed, then it's time for Martial Law and communism at last. Yes, we WILL be a great country...then! LOL
LOL! Well i guess those who work under the table get a free pass.No taxes to pay but benefit from those who do pay taxes and a healthcare system to boot.Keep voting Democrat then.Have fun!One more thing young turks ,Obama funded by the very people who got bailed out.So your arguement just fell flat on its face.
His 9-9-9 plan would be the biggest shift in wealth from the poor and middle class to the rich in history. He doesn't have a clue about foreign policy. He thinks being gay is a choice. He would not appoint a Muslim to any position in his administration and he is against abortion EVEN in the case of rape and incest. Cain blames the unemployed for being unemployed while business have cut 14 million jobs. Herman Cain is a humongous hemorrhoid....
I don't get it. this how I'm doing the math. I made last year about 40,000 the IRS keep 9,200=23% I spend like 4000.00 in goods with a 7% sale tax thats $280 in tax. Under this plan I will pay 3,600.00 in income tax vs 9,200 and 280 vs 360, if I'm doing the math correctly I saving 5,520 under the Cain plan.
He tells people that his 999 plan will decrease taxes for the poor, while actually it increases taxes for income levels below $200,000.- and decreases taxes only for those with an income greater than $200,000.-
What if all Americans only buys used goods? Wouldn't that put new goods on the shelf and not create new jobs? And, where do I find used underwear if I can't afford new underwear!
@goldmakers The only place I can think of when purchasing used panties is at the Goodwill! If Cain gets his way it looks like The Goodwill will replace Nordstroms! LOL
@goldmakers Well, if the ex chairman of the Federal Reserve gets elected you best get you Goodwill credit card out...that is if they take credit? LMAO
Progressivism (anti-liberty "liberalism") is advocating changes or reform through GOV'T action.
Give any POLITICIAN the money & power to "redistribute & regulate" & they will ALWAYS benefit THEIR “special interest” campaign backers; Wall Street, Military-Industrial Complex, Marxist Union Bosses & Giant "Green" Corps, Big Oil etc.
Progressivism aka “Big Gov’t” CREATES Political Cronyism.
FIAT (counterfeit) debt-currency from the Fed just FUELS THE FIRE!
@jesushatesyoutoo No it is not food is not taxed unless it is imported. By the way take a moment and think about your name. Then answer this: If a Christian wrote a name that intentionally degraded someones belief would they be a Christian? I you rail ever so cleverly on someone by mocking their faith, what are you;a hater?
@goldmakers From the Drudge Report, CNN's Candy Crowley, Will food or clothing would be exempt. "Nope," he said. "If they need to buy a car or a home or some hard goods that are used, they pay no taxes." watch?v=CZ_PGX7N57E.
So you don't know what the fuck you are talking about! Degrade your belief? Read my profile? "Congratulations to you when you are hated and persecuted." "Whoever does not hate father & mother AS I DO, cannot be my disciple". JESUS
@jesushatesyoutoo You are a railer! Thats by the way is judging your fruit. I see you do not respect your elders(pastors) within the body of Christ. You say your Christian then act like one. I don't believe very much of what CNN reports. By the way Cain is just going to change his mind and never do any of these things if he could get elected. i don't believe that there will be an election. At least not one that will represent the US an independent Country. Try a different tone with people.
@goldmakers Wow, where do I start? How am I NOT respecting my elders? The body of Christ? Please tell where Jesus says worship his body? Eucharist is a remembrance, of Jesus. What does the old Testament say about graven images and idols? When did I say I'm a Christian? I gave you of video of Cain speaking those very words yet you don't believe? "many prophets and righteous men longed to see what you see but did not see it, and to hear what you hear but did not hear it." (Matthew 13:1-23)
@jesushatesyoutoo using scripture out of context doesn't make you smart or Christian. You were right he did say that food was included. I did not hear that before. You assumed I should have. I don't follow the man. The Body of Christ according to Ephesains: are the members of the church, not the physical body, but the spiritual body which in whom all who are bapstised with the Holy Spirit are. John chapter 3. We are of one body in Christ. 1 Cor chapter 13--the fruits of the Spirit is evidence.
@goldmakers Where this all started was YOU stating that food was not included. You say you don't follow the man yet you make bold statement on his plan. A plan you don't know anything about. It seem you do that a lot.
Not out of context, Luke 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in REMEMBRANCE of me.
He personally said NOTHING except remember him and his teaching.
So , people whom needs furniture for their new house needs to pay more , those whom purchase fresh food needs to pay more and those whom needs clothings for their children needs to pay more.
If his elected - America would be littered with cardboard houses and instant noodles will become the staple food of America.
This guy is a fool. Listen to 1:02 to about 1:30. Rich people buy more food than middle class and more expensive food. Also it's all new GOODS, not just food! Is it that hard to understand. Do you people not agree that the more money you have the more new stuff you buy and the more luxury items you buy. Just more stuff in general. So saying we take the burden is just incorrect. Just go calculate it for yourself and you'll see. I'm a low income family just incase you might be wondering.
On a final point, Ron Paul has his beliefs but he has stated many times he will never push his beliefs on anyone else the same way he expects others to not push their beliefs on him. Unlike Cain that has said many times he would never hire a Muslim in his cabinet. I hope you dig deeper on the issues and change your mind. Peace!
@vincentca2004 Bullshit! Go to Paul's Campaign website and read his statement of faith his push to enact the Sanctity of Life Act, which would put into FEDERAL law that life starts at conception. And give that zygote every right as a breathing citizen. That would make abortion illegal not just a states issue. He also is Pushing the We the People Act, which allow prayer in the public sector. Although silent, Non believers would be forced to stand wait until the group finished praying!
@jesushatesyoutoo By your name on here i see why you are afraid of having people practice their religious beliefs where they see fit. Dont people pray in public already? Get over yourself, nobody will be forced to stand still. The positives of Ron Paul outweigh the negatives by 100:1 and the ones that look into his stances realize this right away.
@vincentca2004 Afraid, NO! Okay, lets stop everything and make you wait while a Muslim prays 5 times a day. I bet you'd go for that wouldn't you? Yes, they will ass wipe! If I'm at a public meeting what do you want me to do sing Stairway to Heaven while the religious pray? The only positive of Ron Paul was he was against the Iraq war. That's it!! You didn't even bother to go to my channel and read my profile did you? 8% is all the polling power the has. That has been very consistent.
@vincentca2004 Interestingly, you don't refute what I posted about Paul forces his beliefs on us. You just say "well everything else is okay". READ THE FUCKING CONSTITUTION!
Redevote your time on Cain speaking about muslims. He has said it just once and he justified his comment. If someone was a radical Islamist would you have him run your finances or even be near anything important to you? Two of my best friends are Muslims but that doesn't change the fact that it's scary to think about radical muslims. Go find Cain's response to why he said he wouldn't hire a Muslim in his cabinet. He spoken about that specific comment multiple times.
Cont...The dept of education has only massively increased tuition in the whole country and tests and scores have been getting worse for the past 30 years. School zoning has been a total failure and is the best way to divide the rich and the poor. Let the states decide what is best for their students in terms of education and allow the parents to decide which school to send their children to. Competition will massively improve educational standards.
I see why the front page has this video with 300 views....Hermain Cain being TOTALLY EXPOSED here. What/who else do the banksters up their sleeves to throw at the people?? Its a game of darts, throw any shit at the board until one sticks.
you cut 30 seconds from him talking and try to bash his plan. So raising taxes is a bad thing? everyone pays taxes, that includes the rich, the rich that spend more on luxury stuff, if we have to pay more for food then time to cut some coupons out and suck it up. I find it a great plan and maybe people should listen to what he has to say about it a little bit more.
@TheDalinkwent i'm a sheep? you are just listening to the guy that is bashing him not Cain, he is taxing everyone equally, the rich have to pay for stuff too, i find it a far plan and it seems like the best anyone has came up with so far
@dragonmamga, This is why you are sheep. Somes people sales tax in already below 9% and some pay none at all. MEANING THEY"RE TAXES WOULD GO UP!!! Cain even admitted that his plan would raise taxes on the poor and middle-class but justified it by cutting the payrole tax which negates the tax cut's in the first place. Cutting people's payroll tax also means less money for SS and other benefits, so Cains bullshit plan means nothing longterm.
jenny that sounded like somthing lewis black would say I'm laughing way out loud that was great funny lets just hope this jerk dosn't get elected I don't even know why he's where he's at now used food I'm still laughing
@Jenny010132 Yes. As for other used goods: last I checked thrift stores will charge sales tax depending on what state they're in & if they're not non-profit. What would be an option to avoid this? Yard sales? It'd be better if certain items were barred from having sales tax such as food, gas, diapers, Rx, & other essentials. Of course a few essentials such as clothes would be problematic b/c someone could just abuse it & go on a shopping spree & get clothes they don't need, but you get my point.
@Jenny010132 Well Herman isnt the poster boy for putting his thoughts to words correctly.
Lets try this idea, thousands of all you can eat buffets have food left over every nite and they throw it out, in addition in many places the sanitary laws stipulate that the food must be fresh every 4 hours, so all that food goes right in the garbage as well. Kind of a waste dont you think.
People have tons of food in their friges that just goes to waste every day.
@Jenny010132 that was the funniest I was litterally laughing out loud "Where am I supposed to find used FOOD" that just great humor even though the topic isn't. First it was sarah palin now herman cain blurting out thier IQ and that whole republican debate panel there's definatley something wrong with those people bachmann she has a law degree?? and newt genrich is mentaly challenged I can't believe the american people would vote for any of these people into any office
Herman Cain is the Definition of a House N**ga. a poor farm boy from the south who came from humble beginnings as a chauffeur, barber and janitor ta being a former Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank , CEO of ''Godfathers Pizza" and a Republican A**hole with a stick up his butt like he never heard of hard time and struggle . sucka wouldnt get ma vote
it should be very simple 99% over 1% means the 99% should win the overall vote agianst these dumbass republicans heres 7 republicans arguing over the same damn thing one thinks he's a little better they all want to keep or reform tax's which means tax's go up and then they want the people that don't have jobs because of the republican party in the first place to get private insurance what if the shoe were on the other foot who the hell pays for thier health care we do
His comments on Outfront were even better. He said that the middle class wouldn't be hurt by the sales tax because under his plan there's no sale tax on used items. So the middle class is supposed to live on hand-me-downs from the rich? He also considers corporate deductions on their 9%. He did mention maybe deductions for the poor but not sure how that would work on sales tax. Deducting it from the income tax means you are out that money for the year. Kinda defeats the point of being simple.
Ron Paul opposed Federal Reserve cronyism and corporate bailouts when the Establishment in both parties pushed them! He has a plan to Restore America. But the media is blacking him out - fight back by supporting the Black THIS Out moneybomb Oct 19!
@Taikaru Ron Paul wants to get rid of Roe v Wade. He is against Net Neutrality. Thinks there is no separation of church and state. Wants to get rid of the Dept of Education among many other idiotic ideas. Sorry but his stance against the bailouts is not going to convince me to vote for him.
@kubush He does not agree with government mandates based on collectivism and in the case of Roe v Wade he believes the business owner should have the right to decide what is best for his business or not including who to serve if it is in the service industry. Net neutrality sounds good from the name but if you dig deeper it is a way for the government to get control of the internet and censor or tax whatever they deem inappropriate. It does the opposite of what people believe.
@Taikaru primary Reminder : If you are a disillusioned Dem or unaffiliated, and you live in one of 18 or more closed primary states , U will not be able to vote Ron Paul in the critical primary! Some states are : AZ,ALAKSA,CT,CO,DE,DC,IL,FL,OR,OK,NE,NC,SD,UT,NY,PA,LA,KY,WV,DC, a few more .Do not be cheated out of a vote; don't cheat Ron Paul out of the nomination
According to the free market economists Cain has hidden taxes in his proposal. He says that there is no payroll tax but there is a 9% payroll tax. The way it works is that corporations are not allowed to deduct the wages of their employees. The corporations will simply take the difference from the workers. Cain is not cutting government. He is simply shifting some of the burden from the rich to the poor.
Um, dont we, as a consumer society want people to spend more on goods? doesnt that help the economy? wouldnt we actually want people to spend more?freaking idiot
@alphacause Hermain Cain isn't stupid, it's just not his plan. He's a puppet that is being funded and he will have difficulty trying to explain the 9 9 9 plan because it probably doesn't even make sense to him.
I think this plan would be ok if there was an exemption on all food, clothing, housing and basic needs. Or make it so that the first $30k spent would not be subject to the tax. Getting rid of tax code and IRS would be a great step.
The 999 plan does work - when Cain reduced the pepperoni supremo from $10.00 to $9.99 it sold twice as fast ... great inspiration from a great thinker
Guess I'll just have to start buying my daughter used diapers, and recycled baby formula. Herman cain please sit down, and be quiet you're just a Koch-bot.
I don't get his logic of "more people will pay less taxes" Is there some giant sector of people simply not paying taxes because they're too high, I'm pretty sure the government makes you pay your taxes. Taxes aren't like a product where if the price is to high no one will pay in. Or if he's just talking about people evading taxes because they're too high, those people are still going to evade their taxes.
@Videogamehistorian00 Actually, a sizable portion of people are exempt from federal income taxes because they have income below or near the poverty line. What it comes down to is that he wants to tax people in poverty because he feels that the only reason that poverty exists is the laziness of the impoverished.
Isn't he the one who said the wall street protesters were lazy because they lost their jobs? How can anyone get a job in this country now? Please tell me.
Hmmmmm so the people that spend money on new goods will get taxed, so in other words me and my daughter just have to starve and I can never buy either of us new clothes or gas for my car or anything basically and I won't get taxed to death.
That's because you don't consider the middle class and poor as people. You only believe corporations and the wealthy are people. WE DON'T WANT YOUR VERSION OF THE CAIN MADNESS!
@cynisturb Youre right about the things you said but its not fast enouogh and will produce setback. Strip the FBI and you will produce white dollar crime, strip pentagon and you will lose a lot of military export. So the only fast and efficient way you can go is to raise the taxes.
Your creditors dont question your ability to pay, they question your will to pay, that is much worse.
@aon10003 To which post(s) are you referring? I don't recall mentioning anything about wanting to strip the FBI. And I do want taxes to go up for the wealthy now, and everybody else when the economy is good.
Lets give all the money from the working class to the non-working class. That should be fair and help eveyone. Or maybe just the money they don't need past the cost of living. That would be better.
No you clown, you disqualify yourself from any public office whenever you speak. If most people DON'T pay taxes now, andyou will force them to pay taxes (Steal from them in Republican terminology), MORE PEOPLE PAY MORE IN TAXES.
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It's not that fucking hard you U.S far-right clown. It seems, the reason your top economists 999 plan didn't have any sources is because you have no clue what the heck it is about.
Look at the pretty watch. Watch it swing back and forth. Back and forth. Relax, you are going to buy stuff now. You are going to go down to Walmart and spend your money. And you will pay taxes on that spending. And my friends the Koch Bros will back up the 666/999 plan. Relax, it will be good for Amerika. Now go back to sleep, and forget we ever had this conversation...
I've watched other Cain interviews. He's suggesting that the rich buy new stuff while middle class and poor buy everything at garagesales, flea mkts, Goodwill, Craigslist, and so on. Food? No, he said people can grow their own food in their garden. As if people can grow enough food to live off of year 'round in their TINY APARTMENT. Remember, the Koch bros are libertarians. Therefore, every idea Cain has is a LIBERTARIAN IDEA straight out of the Ayn Rand playbook as interpreted by the Koch bros!
Herman Cain is TRULY Sarah Palin's DICKLESS and BALLESS BITCH and PUSSY! Palin is VASTLY SUPERIOR to this Uncle Tom ass-clown in every single way. Palin can PWN him and EXPOSE HIS PUSSY for the whole world to see!
He even says it, the moron. Who will pay more? People who spend money on "New Goods". That's the people who already don't have the money. He acts like the problem is reckless, rampant consumer spending. That's the OPPOSITE of the problem. The problem is the consumer doesn't have money to spend, so business don't create new jobs because they have no new customers, which makes them tighten their belts further, which shrinks the economy exponentially.
It's all in the way you order the words, it's not "More people will pay less in taxes", it's "People who have more will pay less in taxes."
This is a stupid plan. Everyone knows it. Herman Cain knows it. I think the SNL skit recently about this was actually pretty accurate, Cain didn't expect anyone to take it seriously.
People who have to spend most of their money on supplies will pay more. People who have money left over will pay less. The rich having more money doesn't grow the economy.
@dEdGrimley Like Gregory, I don't think you understand the concept of embedded costs. Consumers are already paying a significant markup on the price of goods they buy because of our high corporate tax rate. This cost is greater than the 9% sales tax his plan will impose and is hidden from the consumer. Cain's plan would make this cost less and transparent. The rich are unlikely to pay less under Cain's plan because he also eliminates most loopholes.
As I don't feel that I need to defend my arguments, I'll just point out that most major independent economists agree with me. But I'm sure you're secretly a Nobel laureate.
@dEdGrimley No, I am not a Nobel Laureate. I just took an honest look at Cain's plan and see its merits. One of his selling points for the plan is it simplicity. It is so simple that anyone can understand it. I am sure you could also if you made the effort. Did you know that the plan eliminates the FICA tax and the Medicare tax? These taxes combined are more than 9% for a middle class american.
When you spend a majority of your income on essentials, like the poor and lower-middle class do, everything you buy would cost that much more.
I haven't heard whether this plan would eliminate state sales taxes, but in the event that it does, the states are all screwed. In the event that it doesn't, an additional 9% charge would cripple the economy.
If you want to eliminate SS and Medicare, give that a try. You've definitely talked me out of this clownery now.
@dEdGrimley All you have shown is that you don't understand Cain's plan. You don't understand the concept of embedded costs. You don't know that federal and state taxes are unrelated. You believe it eliminates SS and Medicare. You already pay existing taxes in the price of things you buy. Cain just changes the way those taxes are collected. Cain's plan reforms federal taxation. State taxes are not changed. SS and Medicare are not changed. The plan only changes how they are funded.
If there's a federal sales tax on TOP of the state sales tax, which is what I've just said, and I don't see how you could've even confused that, that's insane. What would happen if a state increased their sales tax by 9%? It doesn't matter who's collecting it to the consumer, that's a huge increase, $.09/$1. The most I've ever heard of is 2.
You're talking a lot about how I don't get this, so tell me how an additional 9% sales tax on everything helps the poor and middle class.
@dEdGrimley tubelarr is just as confused as Cain was at the debate , not realy just trying to double talk his way out of the truth with the apples & oranges horse shit like Cain was .....LOL
@dEdGrimley No doubt not only is it a Koch inspired scam that sounds good on the surface , it's also the biggest recipe Iv'e seen in a while for a some what of a quick fix for Fed goverment revenue problems that ends in economic stagnation, how many industrys are going to expand when theres a extra 9% tacked on building supplys, and tooling required for expansion.Loop holes are bad but when you take tax encentives / deductions out of the picture how in hell are you going to get buisness to grow?
@dEdGrimley From what I gatherd from the gurus on the matter and Cains interveiw is he's claiming a family of 4 making 50 grand would pay around 4 grand on taxes, but once the numbers are crunched on money spent , food ,houseing ,transportation , clothing exc. it would add up to another 5K in a tax burden.. Chile is suposedly his model and from what I can gather they have around a 27 % poverty level according to one model used to figure income disparity & poverty levels...
@tubelarr Gusseing form the last GOP debate Herman Cain dosent understand his 999 plan either ,not enough to defend it anyway, it's a Koch idea you can bet on that Btw 9+9 = 18% and you know your going to spend some of it doubleing the tax burden of the people who spend the most of their income the poor & middle class while people like the Kochs spend less of their income eh , it's a Koch promoted sham of the typical GOP idea of making the lower classes pay and not the rich & corporations !....
@kamphwagon1 Cain explained it in this interview. A debate doesn't allow an in-depth explanation. He suggested you do the calculations yourself. Have you done so? Currently the average middle class american pays 6.5% in FICA taxes, 2.9% in Medicare taxes and 6% in income taxes or 15.4%. Under Cain's plan that person would pay18% or less.. The difference that remains is offset by the lower corporate tax and the employer's 6.5% share of the payroll tax and their likely outcomes.
@tubelarr Ahh just as I figured just a shell game he he with a social security / medicare abolishment hidden giveing corporations a even bigger tax break ..Likely outcomes says it all ! Cain is promoting a ponzi pymriad tax scam devised by some Koch bean counter scam artist , any way you cut it the fat cats pay less while working folks pay more with his fundie fucktard 999 plan , the math says your geting fucked both times..Cain being a Koch sucker speaks volumes about his integrity , NONE !
@kamphwagon1 So you are admitting that you had no idea what Cain's plan was before I informed you? You have pretty strong opinions about something you know nothing about. What do they call it when someone has a lack of knowledge about a subject? Help me out here. Oh yeah, ignorance. Allow me to inform you that your characterization of the plan as a shell game and a ponzi pyramid are equally ignorant. Hey, at least your are consistant. Good for you.
@tubelarr No I pretty much knew what it was , mostly checking you out, to see what part of this pyrimid scam you thought was so grandeso, it sounds good to folks untill they figure out theres no deductions and every one pays regardless of income meening the folks whom have to spend most of their income get fucked the most, taxed twice at the federal level +state & local taxes on the same dam dollar..Only the corporations & the rich wind up paying less.It's a fucktard Koch scam thats all it is !
More liberal media propaganda - the rich so do have to spend money on goods - remember Republican Congressman John Fleming a couple weeks back saying he was struggling on what he had left after you factor in the $200,000 he had to spend per year to feed his family?
go kill yourself and shove 999 cocks up your ass you fucking disgrace of a human being, God i can't stand these billionaires who are obsessed with controlling us and giving them the ultimate breaks, 9-9-9 plan is a fucking joke, a high school economics class can debunk that shit plan in a matter of minutes, what sickens me is that people supported him, i fear this country i really do, Mitt Romney is no different, Ron Paul 2012!
bodybuilder718 1 month ago
obama is doing the same fuckn thing
localSickened 2 months ago
@localSickened lmfao not really
crunkCholo 2 weeks ago
Lies, lies, lies...fabricated by Big GOVT loving statists who want America to continue on its "glidepath to implosion". Reform of the tax code is the enemy of their agenda.
Once America has collapsed, then it's time for Martial Law and communism at last. Yes, we WILL be a great country...then! LOL
Cokie907 2 months ago
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Ron Paul for president, thank you.
pinkzeppelin1982 3 months ago
RON PAUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lilshontaycandy 3 months ago
I hate TYT, but Cenk's spot on.
j03y2fly 3 months ago
Bill Clinton for president
guythatcomments 4 months ago
LOL! Well i guess those who work under the table get a free pass.No taxes to pay but benefit from those who do pay taxes and a healthcare system to boot.Keep voting Democrat then.Have fun!One more thing young turks ,Obama funded by the very people who got bailed out.So your arguement just fell flat on its face.
RebelsLiberator 4 months ago
Ah, who needs food, right? So overrated.
Kendrahf 4 months ago
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His 9-9-9 plan would be the biggest shift in wealth from the poor and middle class to the rich in history. He doesn't have a clue about foreign policy. He thinks being gay is a choice. He would not appoint a Muslim to any position in his administration and he is against abortion EVEN in the case of rape and incest. Cain blames the unemployed for being unemployed while business have cut 14 million jobs. Herman Cain is a humongous hemorrhoid....
rocky19421 4 months ago
I don't get it. this how I'm doing the math. I made last year about 40,000 the IRS keep 9,200=23% I spend like 4000.00 in goods with a 7% sale tax thats $280 in tax. Under this plan I will pay 3,600.00 in income tax vs 9,200 and 280 vs 360, if I'm doing the math correctly I saving 5,520 under the Cain plan.
joub007 4 months ago
I don't understand why old people are at the protests, like we see behind Cenk in the video. Aren't they enjoying their retirement life? :o
MisledTrick 4 months ago
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He tells people that his 999 plan will decrease taxes for the poor, while actually it increases taxes for income levels below $200,000.- and decreases taxes only for those with an income greater than $200,000.-
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croakingembryo 4 months ago
Why is it that every politician is either stupid or evil? Did someone piss off a gypsy or something?
WolfsStorm 4 months ago
Nein!
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Domzdream 4 months ago
What if all Americans only buys used goods? Wouldn't that put new goods on the shelf and not create new jobs? And, where do I find used underwear if I can't afford new underwear!
TheNova1960 4 months ago
@TheNova1960 well things would change much seeing that is what most of us are doing now! Except the underwear thing.
goldmakers 4 months ago
@goldmakers The only place I can think of when purchasing used panties is at the Goodwill! If Cain gets his way it looks like The Goodwill will replace Nordstroms! LOL
TheNova1960 4 months ago
@TheNova1960 LOL I liked your video you were playing currently. Ya I got friends over there. I got Good will near me in Falmouth Maine.
goldmakers 4 months ago
@goldmakers Well, if the ex chairman of the Federal Reserve gets elected you best get you Goodwill credit card out...that is if they take credit? LMAO
TheNova1960 4 months ago
Progressivism (anti-liberty "liberalism") is advocating changes or reform through GOV'T action.
Give any POLITICIAN the money & power to "redistribute & regulate" & they will ALWAYS benefit THEIR “special interest” campaign backers; Wall Street, Military-Industrial Complex, Marxist Union Bosses & Giant "Green" Corps, Big Oil etc.
Progressivism aka “Big Gov’t” CREATES Political Cronyism.
FIAT (counterfeit) debt-currency from the Fed just FUELS THE FIRE!
Kill the root, END THE FED!
yakyakyak69 4 months ago
9 pizzas with 9 topping all for 9.99. Typical bullshit from a Pizza CEO who's pizza sucks!
jesushatesyoutoo 4 months ago
Food is not part of the tax
goldmakers 4 months ago
@goldmakers YES IT IS!!!!!
jesushatesyoutoo 4 months ago
@jesushatesyoutoo No it is not food is not taxed unless it is imported. By the way take a moment and think about your name. Then answer this: If a Christian wrote a name that intentionally degraded someones belief would they be a Christian? I you rail ever so cleverly on someone by mocking their faith, what are you;a hater?
goldmakers 4 months ago
@goldmakers From the Drudge Report, CNN's Candy Crowley, Will food or clothing would be exempt. "Nope," he said. "If they need to buy a car or a home or some hard goods that are used, they pay no taxes." watch?v=CZ_PGX7N57E.
So you don't know what the fuck you are talking about! Degrade your belief? Read my profile? "Congratulations to you when you are hated and persecuted." "Whoever does not hate father & mother AS I DO, cannot be my disciple". JESUS
jesushatesyoutoo 4 months ago
@jesushatesyoutoo You are a railer! Thats by the way is judging your fruit. I see you do not respect your elders(pastors) within the body of Christ. You say your Christian then act like one. I don't believe very much of what CNN reports. By the way Cain is just going to change his mind and never do any of these things if he could get elected. i don't believe that there will be an election. At least not one that will represent the US an independent Country. Try a different tone with people.
goldmakers 4 months ago
@goldmakers Wow, where do I start? How am I NOT respecting my elders? The body of Christ? Please tell where Jesus says worship his body? Eucharist is a remembrance, of Jesus. What does the old Testament say about graven images and idols? When did I say I'm a Christian? I gave you of video of Cain speaking those very words yet you don't believe? "many prophets and righteous men longed to see what you see but did not see it, and to hear what you hear but did not hear it." (Matthew 13:1-23)
jesushatesyoutoo 4 months ago
@jesushatesyoutoo using scripture out of context doesn't make you smart or Christian. You were right he did say that food was included. I did not hear that before. You assumed I should have. I don't follow the man. The Body of Christ according to Ephesains: are the members of the church, not the physical body, but the spiritual body which in whom all who are bapstised with the Holy Spirit are. John chapter 3. We are of one body in Christ. 1 Cor chapter 13--the fruits of the Spirit is evidence.
goldmakers 4 months ago
@goldmakers Where this all started was YOU stating that food was not included. You say you don't follow the man yet you make bold statement on his plan. A plan you don't know anything about. It seem you do that a lot.
Not out of context, Luke 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in REMEMBRANCE of me.
He personally said NOTHING except remember him and his teaching.
jesushatesyoutoo 4 months ago
Food, gas, and other bare essentials should be exempt from sales tax. It's high where I live (TN).
Eizara 4 months ago
"People whom pays for new goods..."
So , people whom needs furniture for their new house needs to pay more , those whom purchase fresh food needs to pay more and those whom needs clothings for their children needs to pay more.
If his elected - America would be littered with cardboard houses and instant noodles will become the staple food of America.
UnholyDarknessZ 4 months ago
They want to destroy the middle class, elitist bastards
tfay2100gmaildotcom 4 months ago
So basically, Herman Cain wants to do what Democrats wanted to do in the first place?
ETLyrics1 4 months ago
Aren't higher taxxes what Obama was calling for? Cenk defended Obama's higher taxes but now disses Cain?
ObowMao666 4 months ago
Just say NO to KOCHCAIN!!!
RON PAUL 2012!!!
EndTheFedRes 4 months ago
its not the 999 plan its the 666 plan believe me
Mrdukeofnuke55 4 months ago
Herman's a coke head.
TheFunkadelicFan 4 months ago
This guy is a fool. Listen to 1:02 to about 1:30. Rich people buy more food than middle class and more expensive food. Also it's all new GOODS, not just food! Is it that hard to understand. Do you people not agree that the more money you have the more new stuff you buy and the more luxury items you buy. Just more stuff in general. So saying we take the burden is just incorrect. Just go calculate it for yourself and you'll see. I'm a low income family just incase you might be wondering.
MrDerrcolton 4 months ago
@h9d58 i aggree, but i don't live in the US
Widchard 4 months ago
Cenk FTW
Widchard 4 months ago
Cenk on the road FTW! He does the news items outside, JUST as good as inside. That's because Cenk's the MAN!
SinisterSkip 4 months ago
coke funded!!! yep he worked for them so did his dad!
victorazanedo 4 months ago
how about 99% tax for the top 1% and 9% tax for everyone else?! Anyone agree with me?
h9d58 4 months ago
On a final point, Ron Paul has his beliefs but he has stated many times he will never push his beliefs on anyone else the same way he expects others to not push their beliefs on him. Unlike Cain that has said many times he would never hire a Muslim in his cabinet. I hope you dig deeper on the issues and change your mind. Peace!
vincentca2004 4 months ago
@vincentca2004 Bullshit! Go to Paul's Campaign website and read his statement of faith his push to enact the Sanctity of Life Act, which would put into FEDERAL law that life starts at conception. And give that zygote every right as a breathing citizen. That would make abortion illegal not just a states issue. He also is Pushing the We the People Act, which allow prayer in the public sector. Although silent, Non believers would be forced to stand wait until the group finished praying!
jesushatesyoutoo 4 months ago
@jesushatesyoutoo By your name on here i see why you are afraid of having people practice their religious beliefs where they see fit. Dont people pray in public already? Get over yourself, nobody will be forced to stand still. The positives of Ron Paul outweigh the negatives by 100:1 and the ones that look into his stances realize this right away.
vincentca2004 4 months ago
@vincentca2004 Afraid, NO! Okay, lets stop everything and make you wait while a Muslim prays 5 times a day. I bet you'd go for that wouldn't you? Yes, they will ass wipe! If I'm at a public meeting what do you want me to do sing Stairway to Heaven while the religious pray? The only positive of Ron Paul was he was against the Iraq war. That's it!! You didn't even bother to go to my channel and read my profile did you? 8% is all the polling power the has. That has been very consistent.
jesushatesyoutoo 4 months ago
@vincentca2004 Interestingly, you don't refute what I posted about Paul forces his beliefs on us. You just say "well everything else is okay". READ THE FUCKING CONSTITUTION!
jesushatesyoutoo 4 months ago
@vincentca2004
Redevote your time on Cain speaking about muslims. He has said it just once and he justified his comment. If someone was a radical Islamist would you have him run your finances or even be near anything important to you? Two of my best friends are Muslims but that doesn't change the fact that it's scary to think about radical muslims. Go find Cain's response to why he said he wouldn't hire a Muslim in his cabinet. He spoken about that specific comment multiple times.
MrDerrcolton 4 months ago
Cont...The dept of education has only massively increased tuition in the whole country and tests and scores have been getting worse for the past 30 years. School zoning has been a total failure and is the best way to divide the rich and the poor. Let the states decide what is best for their students in terms of education and allow the parents to decide which school to send their children to. Competition will massively improve educational standards.
vincentca2004 4 months ago
I see why the front page has this video with 300 views....Hermain Cain being TOTALLY EXPOSED here. What/who else do the banksters up their sleeves to throw at the people?? Its a game of darts, throw any shit at the board until one sticks.
vincentca2004 4 months ago
you cut 30 seconds from him talking and try to bash his plan. So raising taxes is a bad thing? everyone pays taxes, that includes the rich, the rich that spend more on luxury stuff, if we have to pay more for food then time to cut some coupons out and suck it up. I find it a great plan and maybe people should listen to what he has to say about it a little bit more.
dragonmamga 4 months ago
@dragonmamga, You guys really are sheep. So Cain raising your taxes on food, but lowering taxes on the richest people is a great plan to you?
TheDalinkwent 4 months ago
@TheDalinkwent i'm a sheep? you are just listening to the guy that is bashing him not Cain, he is taxing everyone equally, the rich have to pay for stuff too, i find it a far plan and it seems like the best anyone has came up with so far
dragonmamga 4 months ago
@dragonmamga, This is why you are sheep. Somes people sales tax in already below 9% and some pay none at all. MEANING THEY"RE TAXES WOULD GO UP!!! Cain even admitted that his plan would raise taxes on the poor and middle-class but justified it by cutting the payrole tax which negates the tax cut's in the first place. Cutting people's payroll tax also means less money for SS and other benefits, so Cains bullshit plan means nothing longterm.
TheDalinkwent 4 months ago
Cenk is the man.
Solarfactor 4 months ago
cain is a fucking house nigger
AndrewMacedonia 4 months ago
God Herman Cain is retarded
BGP333 4 months ago
Republicans: beyond hypocrisy, beneath contempt.
Silberdachs 4 months ago
jenny that sounded like somthing lewis black would say I'm laughing way out loud that was great funny lets just hope this jerk dosn't get elected I don't even know why he's where he's at now used food I'm still laughing
sailboatdreamer 4 months ago
Used goods? Where am I supposed to find used FOOD? Used food is called feces. Herman Cain is literally telling the poor to EAT SHIT!
Jenny010132 4 months ago 61
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@Jenny010132 - "Herman Cain is literally telling the poor to EAT SHIT!"
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Have you never had a Godfather's pizza?
47f0 4 months ago
@Jenny010132 LOL.
Stingerbillion 4 months ago
@Jenny010132 Yes. As for other used goods: last I checked thrift stores will charge sales tax depending on what state they're in & if they're not non-profit. What would be an option to avoid this? Yard sales? It'd be better if certain items were barred from having sales tax such as food, gas, diapers, Rx, & other essentials. Of course a few essentials such as clothes would be problematic b/c someone could just abuse it & go on a shopping spree & get clothes they don't need, but you get my point.
Eizara 4 months ago
@Jenny010132 Well Herman isnt the poster boy for putting his thoughts to words correctly.
Lets try this idea, thousands of all you can eat buffets have food left over every nite and they throw it out, in addition in many places the sanitary laws stipulate that the food must be fresh every 4 hours, so all that food goes right in the garbage as well. Kind of a waste dont you think.
People have tons of food in their friges that just goes to waste every day.
debateyourfaith 4 months ago
@debateyourfaith In other words there is enough food being thrown out every day to feed the hungry in the US.
Ok here's a fun fact, there are more churches in the US than there are homeless people in the US
These facts bring up a couple of serious questions
WHY are there hungry people in the US
WHY are there homeless people in the US
debateyourfaith 4 months ago
@Jenny010132 that was the funniest I was litterally laughing out loud "Where am I supposed to find used FOOD" that just great humor even though the topic isn't. First it was sarah palin now herman cain blurting out thier IQ and that whole republican debate panel there's definatley something wrong with those people bachmann she has a law degree?? and newt genrich is mentaly challenged I can't believe the american people would vote for any of these people into any office
sailboatdreamer 4 months ago
@Jenny010132 That's the Tea Party for ya these days, sadly enough.
TheResilient5689 4 months ago
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Herman Cain is the Definition of a House N**ga. a poor farm boy from the south who came from humble beginnings as a chauffeur, barber and janitor ta being a former Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank , CEO of ''Godfathers Pizza" and a Republican A**hole with a stick up his butt like he never heard of hard time and struggle . sucka wouldnt get ma vote
jayx531 4 months ago
it should be very simple 99% over 1% means the 99% should win the overall vote agianst these dumbass republicans heres 7 republicans arguing over the same damn thing one thinks he's a little better they all want to keep or reform tax's which means tax's go up and then they want the people that don't have jobs because of the republican party in the first place to get private insurance what if the shoe were on the other foot who the hell pays for thier health care we do
sailboatdreamer 4 months ago
His comments on Outfront were even better. He said that the middle class wouldn't be hurt by the sales tax because under his plan there's no sale tax on used items. So the middle class is supposed to live on hand-me-downs from the rich? He also considers corporate deductions on their 9%. He did mention maybe deductions for the poor but not sure how that would work on sales tax. Deducting it from the income tax means you are out that money for the year. Kinda defeats the point of being simple.
RealitysSuccessor 4 months ago
The Ax D Whiteman show published a critique of the Cain plan showing it will lead to job growth and the elimination of the national debt in 9 years.
ChristianMission 4 months ago
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FriesMinus 4 months ago
BLACK THIS OUT RP2012
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Taikaru 4 months ago 30
@Taikaru By introducing social Darwinism to the economy?
AtomicBoom22 4 months ago
@Taikaru Ron Paul also wants to dismantle the IRS which my father works for. Ron can go suck a d%#k
Babylauncher3000 4 months ago
@Babylauncher3000 You a retard? ARE YOU A RETARD?
mrkotfw 4 months ago
@Babylauncher3000
IRS is a parasite organization.
You should be ashamed, not proud.
SHEEPLEwhisperer 4 months ago
@Taikaru Ron Paul wants to get rid of Roe v Wade. He is against Net Neutrality. Thinks there is no separation of church and state. Wants to get rid of the Dept of Education among many other idiotic ideas. Sorry but his stance against the bailouts is not going to convince me to vote for him.
kubush 4 months ago
@kubush He does not agree with government mandates based on collectivism and in the case of Roe v Wade he believes the business owner should have the right to decide what is best for his business or not including who to serve if it is in the service industry. Net neutrality sounds good from the name but if you dig deeper it is a way for the government to get control of the internet and censor or tax whatever they deem inappropriate. It does the opposite of what people believe.
vincentca2004 4 months ago
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doogleandalix 4 months ago
I'd rather have Ron Paul's 0-0-0 plan. Zero Fed, zero wars, zero bailouts.
ccricers 4 months ago
wtf, people who buy new stuff?? lmao at that.
bigz008 4 months ago
i wish cenk could interview herman for an hour without the possibility for herm to storm out, crying because he was asked a real question.
and than i want this interview being broadcasted at primetime on each channel. *dreaming*
brotmann86 4 months ago
I can't believe nobody has noticed that Cain stole this tax idea from the game Sim City.
Krash845 4 months ago
@Krash845 I can't believe you people even believe that liberal garbage!!!
Marakulous43 4 months ago
According to the free market economists Cain has hidden taxes in his proposal. He says that there is no payroll tax but there is a 9% payroll tax. The way it works is that corporations are not allowed to deduct the wages of their employees. The corporations will simply take the difference from the workers. Cain is not cutting government. He is simply shifting some of the burden from the rich to the poor.
bigboywasim 4 months ago
And Herman blasts Mitt for kissing up to Wall Street.
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!
In all upcoming elections: FIND THE LEAST BOUGHT BASTARD AND VOTE THEM IN.
TheLookingOne 4 months ago
Yeah, a regressive sales tax in a *consumer* based economy....
mind-numbingly brilliant |: (
daneblan 4 months ago
When you have to re-ask a question thats been asked of you thats becuz you need to think up a real quick lie!
lilfreeway21 4 months ago
sorry immature, but the 666 plan wtf, they flipped it to hide!!!!
DjTurtleSoup 4 months ago
I think Ben Stiller is promoting him.
islandbrat72 4 months ago
Hurricane Hermy Cain the one and only "Black Walnut"!
lapere 4 months ago
Um, dont we, as a consumer society want people to spend more on goods? doesnt that help the economy? wouldnt we actually want people to spend more?freaking idiot
nibblerseven 4 months ago
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nibblerseven 4 months ago
Nothing like a good ol' regressive tax plan.
sfm073 4 months ago
Herman Cain received a Bachelors degree in mathematics. Apparently, they were grading on a curve.
alphacause 4 months ago
@alphacause Hermain Cain isn't stupid, it's just not his plan. He's a puppet that is being funded and he will have difficulty trying to explain the 9 9 9 plan because it probably doesn't even make sense to him.
zebbedi 4 months ago
I think this plan would be ok if there was an exemption on all food, clothing, housing and basic needs. Or make it so that the first $30k spent would not be subject to the tax. Getting rid of tax code and IRS would be a great step.
goldstockbull 4 months ago
He don't have his Republican "messahs" around to tell him what to say
NewOrleansboii 4 months ago
dont drink koch!!! im NOT lovin it!
SmackNcrack01 4 months ago
Someone better call 911 on Herm Cain's 999 plan because it's as good as dead.
cne08 4 months ago
im not american...is it wrong that i really really want cain to actually become president? it would be awesome to watch..
gl3110 4 months ago
@gl3110 Go for it. I'm pretty sure you'd be 1000% OVER qualified from all the bloody candidates here....
TheLogicman1 4 months ago
I think that we should change/append the the name of the plan to the "Tax the Poor" plan.
jufulu 4 months ago
Will Republicans' greed overcome their racism so that they'll come out for Cain?
RadarKat73080 4 months ago
How am I doing Koch brotha's? X[]
athews1976 4 months ago
if they tax unprepared food that's insane, not even Canada does that.
mikel1982 4 months ago
the 999 plan also guarantees everybody one free large soda
Ericthebearjew1 4 months ago
From months of empirical analysis, I have reached one ultimate conclusion: Herman Cain sucks more Koch than Marcus Bachmann.
UncontestedTruth 4 months ago
I swear if this fuck makes into office I'm going to mexico.
WhereIsReligion 4 months ago
that nigga won't win anyway
TurkiyeCumhurbaskani 4 months ago
Republican TV known as Fox News is very racist how are they handling Cain being #1. Rush L must be sick to his stomach.
derberg19486 4 months ago
The 999 plan does work - when Cain reduced the pepperoni supremo from $10.00 to $9.99 it sold twice as fast ... great inspiration from a great thinker
rocky19421 4 months ago
I thought 999 plan = 9 pizzas with 9 toppings for $9! Hey its recession proof!
deeppurple28 4 months ago
But didn't a similar 9-9-9 plan work great in Uzbeki-Weki-Dirka-Dirka-Stahn-Stahn-Stahn?
And it was only 3 pages.
KesselRunner606 4 months ago
Guess I'll just have to start buying my daughter used diapers, and recycled baby formula. Herman cain please sit down, and be quiet you're just a Koch-bot.
stryderblaze80 4 months ago
They're all funded by the Koch Brother....oh,wait, Ron Paul isn't....
volumedealer1 4 months ago
999 or 911 plan?
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datniggami6 4 months ago
Herman Cain : Elect me, and your pizza is free!
sargetech 4 months ago
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Larry Kings brother
TheChainsOFMisery 4 months ago
I don't get his logic of "more people will pay less taxes" Is there some giant sector of people simply not paying taxes because they're too high, I'm pretty sure the government makes you pay your taxes. Taxes aren't like a product where if the price is to high no one will pay in. Or if he's just talking about people evading taxes because they're too high, those people are still going to evade their taxes.
Videogamehistorian00 4 months ago
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@Videogamehistorian00 Actually, a sizable portion of people are exempt from federal income taxes because they have income below or near the poverty line. What it comes down to is that he wants to tax people in poverty because he feels that the only reason that poverty exists is the laziness of the impoverished.
PolitcalIslam 4 months ago
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@Videogamehistorian00 You will understand when you turn 12.
PolitcalIslam 4 months ago
He's Obama junior because he says he will change.
Charlie12241 4 months ago
Isn't he the one who said the wall street protesters were lazy because they lost their jobs? How can anyone get a job in this country now? Please tell me.
Charlie12241 4 months ago
Hmmmmm so the people that spend money on new goods will get taxed, so in other words me and my daughter just have to starve and I can never buy either of us new clothes or gas for my car or anything basically and I won't get taxed to death.
WAKE THE FUCK UP AMERICA PLEASE!!!!!
kwatson813 4 months ago
"most people will pay less"
That's because you don't consider the middle class and poor as people. You only believe corporations and the wealthy are people. WE DON'T WANT YOUR VERSION OF THE CAIN MADNESS!
cynisturb 4 months ago 34
@cynisturb Youre right about the things you said but its not fast enouogh and will produce setback. Strip the FBI and you will produce white dollar crime, strip pentagon and you will lose a lot of military export. So the only fast and efficient way you can go is to raise the taxes.
Your creditors dont question your ability to pay, they question your will to pay, that is much worse.
aon10003 4 months ago
@aon10003 To which post(s) are you referring? I don't recall mentioning anything about wanting to strip the FBI. And I do want taxes to go up for the wealthy now, and everybody else when the economy is good.
cynisturb 4 months ago
where can we find the rest of that interview??
grambosix 4 months ago
Fucking communist stealing from people, now he wants to steal from even more people to feed his pizza empire.
underbjorn 4 months ago
Lets give all the money from the working class to the non-working class. That should be fair and help eveyone. Or maybe just the money they don't need past the cost of living. That would be better.
jimisback 4 months ago
Interviewer: You now pay more in taxes.
Pizzaboy: More people pay less in taxes.
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No you clown, you disqualify yourself from any public office whenever you speak. If most people DON'T pay taxes now, andyou will force them to pay taxes (Steal from them in Republican terminology), MORE PEOPLE PAY MORE IN TAXES.
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It's not that fucking hard you U.S far-right clown. It seems, the reason your top economists 999 plan didn't have any sources is because you have no clue what the heck it is about.
underbjorn 4 months ago
I read a word of wisdom today:
"Do you want to know what Jesus thinks of money? Just look at the kind of people he gives it to."
audadvnc 4 months ago
Look at the pretty watch. Watch it swing back and forth. Back and forth. Relax, you are going to buy stuff now. You are going to go down to Walmart and spend your money. And you will pay taxes on that spending. And my friends the Koch Bros will back up the 666/999 plan. Relax, it will be good for Amerika. Now go back to sleep, and forget we ever had this conversation...
audadvnc 4 months ago
People smoking pot end up in jail while this guy is running for president. I don't want to live on this planet anymore
MrG0TH1ER 4 months ago
I've watched other Cain interviews. He's suggesting that the rich buy new stuff while middle class and poor buy everything at garagesales, flea mkts, Goodwill, Craigslist, and so on. Food? No, he said people can grow their own food in their garden. As if people can grow enough food to live off of year 'round in their TINY APARTMENT. Remember, the Koch bros are libertarians. Therefore, every idea Cain has is a LIBERTARIAN IDEA straight out of the Ayn Rand playbook as interpreted by the Koch bros!
cynisturb 4 months ago
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Herman Cain is TRULY Sarah Palin's DICKLESS and BALLESS BITCH and PUSSY! Palin is VASTLY SUPERIOR to this Uncle Tom ass-clown in every single way. Palin can PWN him and EXPOSE HIS PUSSY for the whole world to see!
ecwaufisxtreme 4 months ago
You have two options, rise taxes or go bancrupt.
aon10003 4 months ago
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@aon10003 They're the same thing. You know nothing about economics.
force3264 4 months ago
@aon10003 or strip the sick, poor and old of their benefits. don't forget the military budget, either.
ccsmiley2 4 months ago
He even says it, the moron. Who will pay more? People who spend money on "New Goods". That's the people who already don't have the money. He acts like the problem is reckless, rampant consumer spending. That's the OPPOSITE of the problem. The problem is the consumer doesn't have money to spend, so business don't create new jobs because they have no new customers, which makes them tighten their belts further, which shrinks the economy exponentially.
I know I'm preaching to the choir here and all
dEdGrimley 4 months ago
It's all in the way you order the words, it's not "More people will pay less in taxes", it's "People who have more will pay less in taxes."
This is a stupid plan. Everyone knows it. Herman Cain knows it. I think the SNL skit recently about this was actually pretty accurate, Cain didn't expect anyone to take it seriously.
People who have to spend most of their money on supplies will pay more. People who have money left over will pay less. The rich having more money doesn't grow the economy.
dEdGrimley 4 months ago
@dEdGrimley Like Gregory, I don't think you understand the concept of embedded costs. Consumers are already paying a significant markup on the price of goods they buy because of our high corporate tax rate. This cost is greater than the 9% sales tax his plan will impose and is hidden from the consumer. Cain's plan would make this cost less and transparent. The rich are unlikely to pay less under Cain's plan because he also eliminates most loopholes.
tubelarr 4 months ago
@tubelarr
As I don't feel that I need to defend my arguments, I'll just point out that most major independent economists agree with me. But I'm sure you're secretly a Nobel laureate.
dEdGrimley 4 months ago
@dEdGrimley No, I am not a Nobel Laureate. I just took an honest look at Cain's plan and see its merits. One of his selling points for the plan is it simplicity. It is so simple that anyone can understand it. I am sure you could also if you made the effort. Did you know that the plan eliminates the FICA tax and the Medicare tax? These taxes combined are more than 9% for a middle class american.
tubelarr 4 months ago
@tubelarr
When you spend a majority of your income on essentials, like the poor and lower-middle class do, everything you buy would cost that much more.
I haven't heard whether this plan would eliminate state sales taxes, but in the event that it does, the states are all screwed. In the event that it doesn't, an additional 9% charge would cripple the economy.
If you want to eliminate SS and Medicare, give that a try. You've definitely talked me out of this clownery now.
dEdGrimley 4 months ago
@dEdGrimley All you have shown is that you don't understand Cain's plan. You don't understand the concept of embedded costs. You don't know that federal and state taxes are unrelated. You believe it eliminates SS and Medicare. You already pay existing taxes in the price of things you buy. Cain just changes the way those taxes are collected. Cain's plan reforms federal taxation. State taxes are not changed. SS and Medicare are not changed. The plan only changes how they are funded.
tubelarr 4 months ago
@tubelarr
If there's a federal sales tax on TOP of the state sales tax, which is what I've just said, and I don't see how you could've even confused that, that's insane. What would happen if a state increased their sales tax by 9%? It doesn't matter who's collecting it to the consumer, that's a huge increase, $.09/$1. The most I've ever heard of is 2.
You're talking a lot about how I don't get this, so tell me how an additional 9% sales tax on everything helps the poor and middle class.
dEdGrimley 4 months ago 12
@dEdGrimley tubelarr is just as confused as Cain was at the debate , not realy just trying to double talk his way out of the truth with the apples & oranges horse shit like Cain was .....LOL
kamphwagon1 4 months ago
@kamphwagon1
Since I won't get to say it often: Romney's right. It's not comparing apples and oranges, it's combining them.
dEdGrimley 4 months ago
@dEdGrimley No doubt not only is it a Koch inspired scam that sounds good on the surface , it's also the biggest recipe Iv'e seen in a while for a some what of a quick fix for Fed goverment revenue problems that ends in economic stagnation, how many industrys are going to expand when theres a extra 9% tacked on building supplys, and tooling required for expansion.Loop holes are bad but when you take tax encentives / deductions out of the picture how in hell are you going to get buisness to grow?
kamphwagon1 4 months ago
@kamphwagon1
I'm not sold on the whole "Loophole closing" aspect. I highly doubt there wouldn't be a plethora still around.
dEdGrimley 4 months ago
@dEdGrimley From what I gatherd from the gurus on the matter and Cains interveiw is he's claiming a family of 4 making 50 grand would pay around 4 grand on taxes, but once the numbers are crunched on money spent , food ,houseing ,transportation , clothing exc. it would add up to another 5K in a tax burden.. Chile is suposedly his model and from what I can gather they have around a 27 % poverty level according to one model used to figure income disparity & poverty levels...
kamphwagon1 4 months ago
@tubelarr Gusseing form the last GOP debate Herman Cain dosent understand his 999 plan either ,not enough to defend it anyway, it's a Koch idea you can bet on that Btw 9+9 = 18% and you know your going to spend some of it doubleing the tax burden of the people who spend the most of their income the poor & middle class while people like the Kochs spend less of their income eh , it's a Koch promoted sham of the typical GOP idea of making the lower classes pay and not the rich & corporations !....
kamphwagon1 4 months ago
@kamphwagon1 Cain explained it in this interview. A debate doesn't allow an in-depth explanation. He suggested you do the calculations yourself. Have you done so? Currently the average middle class american pays 6.5% in FICA taxes, 2.9% in Medicare taxes and 6% in income taxes or 15.4%. Under Cain's plan that person would pay18% or less.. The difference that remains is offset by the lower corporate tax and the employer's 6.5% share of the payroll tax and their likely outcomes.
tubelarr 4 months ago
@tubelarr Ahh just as I figured just a shell game he he with a social security / medicare abolishment hidden giveing corporations a even bigger tax break ..Likely outcomes says it all ! Cain is promoting a ponzi pymriad tax scam devised by some Koch bean counter scam artist , any way you cut it the fat cats pay less while working folks pay more with his fundie fucktard 999 plan , the math says your geting fucked both times..Cain being a Koch sucker speaks volumes about his integrity , NONE !
kamphwagon1 4 months ago
@kamphwagon1 So you are admitting that you had no idea what Cain's plan was before I informed you? You have pretty strong opinions about something you know nothing about. What do they call it when someone has a lack of knowledge about a subject? Help me out here. Oh yeah, ignorance. Allow me to inform you that your characterization of the plan as a shell game and a ponzi pyramid are equally ignorant. Hey, at least your are consistant. Good for you.
tubelarr 4 months ago
@tubelarr No I pretty much knew what it was , mostly checking you out, to see what part of this pyrimid scam you thought was so grandeso, it sounds good to folks untill they figure out theres no deductions and every one pays regardless of income meening the folks whom have to spend most of their income get fucked the most, taxed twice at the federal level +state & local taxes on the same dam dollar..Only the corporations & the rich wind up paying less.It's a fucktard Koch scam thats all it is !
kamphwagon1 4 months ago
Clown Fest
sushanalone 4 months ago
More liberal media propaganda - the rich so do have to spend money on goods - remember Republican Congressman John Fleming a couple weeks back saying he was struggling on what he had left after you factor in the $200,000 he had to spend per year to feed his family?
StevenBee2 4 months ago
@StevenBee2 Troll, right? :-D
tsruikk 4 months ago