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  • @0:31 picture of bulava missles.... FROM WIKIPEDIA. lol sorry bro, but ya lost my trust right there regardless of whether or not the information shown is factual. If one of my profs in university caught me using wikipedia, even if it showed information as simple and indisputable as "gasoline is refined from oil", i would fail.

  • Nice Fanthomas season 2 is coming out :)

  • I saw this. Incredible.

  • not just Norway but worldwide my friend seen by millions...

  • could very well be harrp

    i would rather like to beleve its aliens but i have no proof so until then im going to beleve its harrp alot of the info sounds solid

  • Same spiral was seen in south east Australia June 5th 2010.... Now thats two spirals in 6 months?... hmmm....

  • Government is putting chemicals through the atmosphere.

    look up chemtrails.

  • the shape suggests the failure occurred well above the atmosphere, no wind and widely viewed. The rest is bullshit.

  • great info! LOL, Mr High sounds like he as a case of bongitis........ ..

  • Project blue beam look it up people

  • you can't understand the behaviour of vapour trails in different atmospheric conditions. so don't bother...

  • Scalar weapons... duh

  • -Plasma,or ionizator

  • Anyway, an artifacts of certain old cavern in africa, let see an illustration like this spirale. And in this time far away, the technologie of missiles, isn't not know.... deicide your truth... Excuse all for my english, i'm a canadien French... Thank you.

  • care to share the name of the cavern?

  • I wish people could see this video first, of this phenomenon, as it is NOT A Missle, clearly. Russian equivalent of haarp really located over that hill somewhere?????????????????????­??????????????????????if so, they are boasting some crazy shit. an ion vortex, warping the space? it's an ion beam, but at the end of the beam may be dark energy?

  • watch?v=Zx8i5EfmYU4

    Lets not get carried away people.

  • That simulation is worthless. I could make a simulation of a kid farting around in the sky on a hot air balloon, painting clouds that look just like the spiral. That doesn't mean that the simulation represents the truth.

  • @jerkoon How does it not? How does looking at a picture lead some people to call this an alien wormhole or something of the like? One of these conclutions has facts behind it, the other does not.

  • The simulation shows what COULD have caused these lights. That doesn't mean that's how it really happened. It's just one possible explanation.

    You're trying to state FACTS and you post a SIMULATION. Are you serious?

    But lets lay the facts out. Russia supposedly launched a rocket that samy day. The nearest conclusion : lights = rocket fail.

    But, every picture shows a perfect spiral. It's highly unlikely that the rocket spun out exactly in the right angle to all of the eye witnesses... isn't it?

  • Another interesting fact is that there has (for a long time already) been research in the area of creating holographic images in the sky. Holographic images would make more sense to why the spiral looks more or less the same from all angles.

    AND there's supposedly one of these research facilities right around the corner from where these lights occurred.

    Now, none of these facts prove anything. All we can do is speculate. What's more likely? What's unlikely?

  • @jerkoon There is no evidence at all to call this anything other than a failed rocket launch with the upper stage spinning in a microgravity environment leaking some type of fuel or fluid. You know sometimes there really is just a mundane explination for these things.

  • I just said: "none of these facts prove anything", didn't I?

    If you look at it objectively (which i doubt you are capable of) there is no SOLID evidence for it being a rocket either.

  • @jerkoon Ok then, tell me what you think this spiral was? I think it's just a failed rocket launch. But what do you think.

  • I don't know what is. Like I said all I can do is speculate. Since I'm not a rocket scientist I can't exclude the possibility of it being a failed rocket. I don't know if a rocket would look like that or not, but I certainly won't believe that theory ONLY because some government said that. I'm not a huge conspiracy person. But I do know that governments don't always tell the truth.

    I wish we had more pictures or videos of the phenomena, because those are the only sources that are 100% true.

  • I didnt hear Clif explain the connection to Obama and the lights. There are no coincidences in the media. Look at the sun symbolism behind Obamas 08 campaign. Look at the AOL TIME WARNER logo. the power of U. They are all related

  • For an extremely secretive alien race, you'd think they wouldn't want to leave a giant vortex when warping out of the.. atmosphere..?

    Maybe its an advertisment for Tom Cruise's new movie. You know how Meepzorp likes to support Hollywood

  • We are all clueless ? No Sherlock , we know more then you think we do . Wait until the ET's appear and then give ma a call .

  • My guess would be. Maybe its something to do with Blue Beam, HAARP,or the LHC (Large Hadron Collider)? Or maybe that's what "the powers that be" want us to think. Maybe its something the average person doesn't even know exist yet... I don't know, but I do find it interesting.

  • Nostradamus predicted something about a black hole

  • using black holes to swallow missiles is a neat idea!

    keep up the good work russia

  • Great vid, Most informative. It makes pefect sence that the Russians would want to showcase there Harrp project to the people who matter most in this situation. Kind of a secretive don't fuck with us, Kind of deal? Or a, Hey look! Now ours works to. Were ready when you are? I have trouble beliveing it will be easy to get American soldiers to attack American soil. But what if there not American?

  • I don't have sound on my computer, but from what I see, am I to understand that a Russian missile was headed for Norway and someone with out of this world technology thwarted world war 3?? By-the-way, I just saved a bunch of money by switching to Geico!

  • You're lucky you can't hear. The poster is a blithering idiot, who decides (for no particular reason) that the phenomenon could not have been seen if it were a missile launched from the white sea. If the missile were above the atmosphere, it would have been visible from Norway and the contrails would not be blown by the wind.

    Problem solved!

  • Hey seattle4truth, I am a fan.

    I have been studying HAARP the past few weeks before this was seen.. I had an idea what this was when I saw this on yahoo's home page.. but the revelation that it is a black hole created by HAARP technology used by the Russians to show their power is quite an interesting theory that has some weight to it.. thanks.

  • Listen it was a missile it is confirmed by all! xD stupid video

  • To quote Shakespare : "Something's rotten in the kingdom of Denmark"

  • Another thing is that the large atom smasher they built had it's first huge high energy impact that same day. So many variables. We will never know.

  • I'm impressed. You think like I do.

  • Look up the Philadelphia Experiment.Montauk Experiments,,where using Tesla's Technology (they took his lab work,patents and killed him in '48) were able to interupt Time/Gravity and send tangible objects through Time/Space.Tesla was the father of all complex electrics (electronics) and Edison was a mere sellout thief of his works.Tesla said that he interacted with Aliens,that's what started modern technology and the resulting indusrtrial Revolution.Our "Government" has stolen 1 million patents.

  • Hear, hear.. Hey, danielwetpaint: How did you know I've just read what appears to be Tesla's Autobiography?

    And how did you find out that I said the very same thing about him versus Edison just days ago to my wife?

    This is eerie... :-)

  • We need to talk Verifire.

  • Hey,,I typed "43" about Teslas death and it appeared "48".

  • Well.. You can write me.. I'm searchable on torrents by name, and usually there's a mail-address attached on the bottom of the comment. It won't show up in this page when I write it down, so I guess that's the way to get the address. "e-Mail address guard"? Go figure.. :)

  • ha ha, how much conspiracy nonsense can you possibly fit into one comment.

  • Ho ho, how much ignorance can you possibly fit into one head? I guess the answer to that would be... immeasurable..? But the rock will drop soon enough. Watch you head. Tinfoil hats or umbrellas won't cut it. Neither can 60 minutes..

    Fight the fluff. Think for yourself. Cheerio -)

  • hey look, I'm into a lot of stuff that would be considered non"mainstream" thinking, but that was a whole list of unsubstantiated things, the philadelphia experiment? I mean, seriously. Tesla was a great man, no reason to taint his memeory with silly claims. and before you flame me, yes I believe in aliens, but not the flying saucer, abducting rednecks kind.

  • OK. That's a 10-4, and good that you're into a lot of non MS stuff and all, but the little flaming came just as an answer to your own condescending tone in the reply.. :-)

    And silly Claims? Well, Tesla made some extraordinary discoveries on electron-fields, some of which he knew were not applicable until the future. Maybe I send you a copy of what seem to be his autobiography? I'll gladly attach it in a mail. No sweat :-)

    Then we could discuss further too..? I'd like that. Sorry if I hurt you...

  • yeah, I'd like that, I'm always looking for new knowledge to fill my head with:)

  • The first question I had when I saw this was ,"What exactly is it,that is there, where the blue light is hitting the ground?". What is there?

    THAT is what I want to know.

  • Is this guy being poisoned as he chokes to death on the phone during his interview? Jeez.

  • distortion of the steam depends on wind.... and wind depends on height/location. Obvious, the missile need to ascent, and so the earlier steam is at a lower height and wind distort it more. I don't see anything wrong with "not able to control a failed missile". And when a missle finally fails totally, all the light is dead and so you see a black hole. I don't know why people are still trying to deny this even with the truth is being told. It's a spiral, the missile just lost balance.

  • Whatever it was,it was a test,its always a test. Afterall they test before they display or take it a step further! More bizzare things to come,well seemingly bizzare anyway,we'll see. A portal.....wow could be!

  • Per favor: Que?

  • The "black whole" is the shock wave from the fuel exploding. It rapidly cleared all the spiral trail. It wasn't a black whole, it went away after 2 seconds.

  • Now that must be an awsome explosion. I mean. And explosion thats Not visible and without lights.

  • You don't need a fireball for a shockwave to occur. Explosions produce shockwaves, and its obvious that something rapidly pushed the spiral cloud away; it didn't warp into itself, it moved outward.

    I don't know the science of the everything. We don't have all the variables. How high it was, if it was even still in the interior atmosphere.

    But also note that its a massive ball of light. What do you mean 'no light visible'? Its bright as the moon.

  • What I mean is that there is no explosion.

  • @TheRealQawser How do you know there was no explosion? An explosion doesn't need to be fiery. How do you know the ball of light in the center isn't an explosive ball of fire? How do you know how large the light area was, how high the event was, or what part of the atmosphere it was in?

    You people seem to be making a lot of assumptions when all of this data is missing.

  • Well you have to have something that can be exploded for an explosion to occur. And when something explodes it does so in a big ball of fire. The light in the center isnt an explosion becouse it shines too long to be one.

  • When an out of controll rocket spins it spins in distorted circles or in different directions. How do u explain the 360 degree perfect circules for 12 minutes? Its IMPOSSIBLE

  • Yes? Thats why I dont think its a rocket.

  • Nor do you truly know that the explanation given is THE explanation. The truth is that most likely you will never know and the same is true for the rest of us.

  • Dont you find it extremely coincidental that china has the technology to make it snow 3 days in a row? Or that there are videos of strange clouds over russia...Or that this incident happened right under HARP...Remember if you control the weather you control the world. Russia china and US...there's a race going on right now and you are all clueless.

  • The spirals are perfect and not blown around because it's not in the atmosphere. Check out the simulation someone did of it, then you can stop the conspiracy theory stuff.

  • Check out all the stuff out there, try to connect the dots, then you're not that phlegmatic about it. Then you can stop the "There's nothing going on here people. Just move along."

    I'm still amazed that some people use the direct-link with "theory" every time there is someone saying the world "government(s?)" are conspiring and are engaged to be married and the bride is being handed over by big time bankers and "the World Teacher" and "Messiah" is being announced.. Oh well...

  • Radio guest cough fail!

  • Russians will not blow up the missile till it falls on ur head..looks like a missile that can hypnotize Obama ...from the sky...folks donot look at it..it will eat ur head!!

  • *Faceslam* Idiots

  • Where is that Bing Bang black hole underground machine that is being fired back up a few weeks ago?

  • Bah, it's Santa testing a new vehicle...

  • If it was a missile that exploded over Norway on Wednesday, then I am Pope Benedict XVI. Everyone on this planet knows what a failed missile looks like - failed missiles and rockets have occurred thousands and thousands of times throughout history. In my world, when something fails catastrophically, it fails chaotically. There was nothing catastrophic or chaotic about the Norway spiral. Nothing about the Norway spiral looked anything like a "failure".

    more proof:

    theworldriver.blogspot (. com)

  • Spiral event seen in Russia 2007:

    /watch?v=EMPnokYQTT8

    Spiral event seen in China

    /watch?v=ixLE3iuszbU

  • In this video: Bad amateur research!

  • want to see something weird? go to.. yahoo...images...type in... Christmas backround....go to page 3 there is a picture that looks just like this,its weird

  • Heres a simple explanation of how it all works:

    watch?v=mwxzvqRWOBo

    its gigajoules of ELV waves penetrating layers of cloud (HAARP Technology)

  • maybe theyre making something that destroys everytype of matter like a blackhole?

  • SURA is Russia's HAARP.

  • I think people have forgotten which Country actually won the race to space. Remember Yuri Gagarin or Sputnik?

    The Russians have always been at forefront of technological advances or discoveries.

  • and...the Russians aren't buying the "peak oil" hype either. Check what they are doing...presently ~

    Excellant deductions Seattle....and research...interesting ..~

  • america won the space race. just because russia launched a giant penis in space first they accomplished nothing. we landed on the freakin moon. something russia still has yet to do. the whole country of russia just plain sucks dick. stop being a sore loser.

  • @b11brabea

    And yet, Russia has some of the most amazing history ever. *Shakes head.*

    Anyways, I wouldn't doubt that HAARP would have something to do with this. How the hell could a Bulava Missile do that?

  • And maybe you haven't really grasped the bigger picture? If America "won the space race", what do you do about the proofs that show they didn't walk on the moon in -69? Oh, I forgot.. You want to believe they did.. Sorry I intruded your pod..

  • oh shit sorry i forgot to turn my skylight off dammit

  • interesting. Wonder if it could also be a test of the Project Bluebeam holography technology. What if there was an initial missile, but it was only used to spray the sky with barium stuff that then makes a very effective projector screen for HAARP type technologies to paint a picture on the sky?

    Maybe it was just a light show on the misty dark air (if it was misty or foggy at all) & was created with some flashy ground based laser projector?

    Missile? Not by the look of it.

  • I dont think it was a projection.. the missile delivered its payload, and the payload was manipulated for a while and eventually destroyed.

  • well I think I know the message they are sending

    Don't fuck with us

  • I totally agree with you GenXFuturist. The missle was the barium fog etc. to project the ionized/magnetic/Haarp tech up into the sky to that it could be visable. I also think, it is very reasonable to assume that it is P.Bluebeam, since there is a blue beam. It also is definately originating from the Haarp facility in Tromso, Norway.

  • aaahhah. 'failed missile' my ass!

  • They were calling batman you fuckers... get it straight.

  • LOL!

  • Calling Batman?,it's funny but this isn't anything to ridicule. It's futuristic technology happening right now,,and to be used against you. Too many odd things have been happening for decades that ulitmately fit together to make a whole. I think 2012 has relevence. Obviously HAARP is being used too. By the time you finally "get it",, it'll be too late. No matter what you do from this point on,,, it's still going to happen.

  • I'm sorry. You are right. No doubt about it. This is nothing to make fun of. But if you're like me and have been doing research on these guys for the time I have [not implying I'm THE authority on anything], you'd actually think the "Batman" joke was a little funny.. It's not that far fetched.. ..allegorically speaking.. You know..?

  • Yup. I think that's probably the best allegory here yet. Besides it's pretty funny.. LOL

  • wormhole

  • Wouldn't the spiral only happen if the rocket was spiraling straight towards the viewer? How was it that every viewer from every angle saw the same perfect spiral. Sorry, this is not a missile. It was something else. How stupid does this government think we are?

  • Can you read the world Santos in the spiral?

    .

    No, you cannot, because its to small.

    .

    SNPSM

  • Has anyone in the press ask the powers that be in Russia - "Why run this test at the time that it did?. I've only heard some noise that Russia confirming that yes they were running a test. But not why they did this at the time they did. I think it maybe a situation of playing head games on those at cophenhagen.

  • This is called Nibiru

  • hmm... my bad then. I kept thinking it was a projection. Either way. there is 1%who knows what this is. I dout the truth will be leaked out any time soon.

  • think about it, was it matter? could u touch the spiral or did it faze away slowly? no. Its a projection...

  • After the blue light disapeared there was still a spiral

  • Maybe the Spiral destroyed the missile...??

  • Why do all these fucking governments need to start shit none stop?! i dont understand! WTF IS WRONG WITH PPL!!

  • Hey, I tried to give you a thumbs-up, but pushed the wrong button. Sorry. So add +2 on your count. That's the truth. Sorry.. :-(

  • to say it was just a coincidence that this happened in Norway just when Obamarama was visiting is a little far fetched,also the location is perfect for Russia to show off some of there technology to the world,its in my opinion a complete joke to say this was a failed missile,the symetry of the spiral is too perfect also it would have went out of shape,it certainly looks like a statement to me

  • Great job Seattle. Something odd here. Keep digging for the truth.

  • You got that right

  • You can see the light source coming from the ground!

  • I've seen many rocket launches myself... this launched conventionally but it didnt fail... this device performed exactly as planned, whatever it was. I'm not buying the "focal lens" theory just yet, the blue spiral seems more like the booster portion was spinning the device up to speed, kinda like a gyro or turbine. You cant run a turbo on your car under a certain RPM..... "Spooling Up" is the terminology, same theory maybe?

  • this is your best video to date. 5 stars ...

  • This is excellent reporting seattlefortruth. You always do a great job. Your as objective as possible and you really do behave exactly like a good reporter should. I really appreciate it.

  • is anyone going to answer the fucking question? If blue beam is true, what do they do for places like NYC? You can't send jesus, allah, and who knows what else to the same neighborhood.

    Shame on you seattle for posting this garbage and believing it.

    Hey I got some ocean front property in Kansas for all you fools who believe this.

  • Well, the theory on what they will use it for may be faulty. However project blue beam is not fake. It is real. Do some research. Who knows how they will use it.

  • Your a tool for believing the Russians are a bunch of drunk fools that don't have electromagnetic superiority. That's what our gov WANTS you to think. Do some research on what they are capable of, and how long they've been doing this.

  • It's you're a tool, buddy.

  • the soviets have at least 2 harp programs that i know of they are right up there with us

  • So far you have the best argument on Youtube. Thank you for posting! 5 Stars

  • my money's on HAARP tech being used here.

  • what im trying to say is in the video it appears the whatever it is is spiraling to the right which means the smoke or what ever it is should be going the other way and if its going to the left its still backwards.

  • ok folks imagine what im saying.assume u let a bottle rocket go and it spirals counter clockwise. the trail of smoke should be opposite of the video spiral we are viewing on video and if its going the other way it should be vise versa. do you all see what i am saying?

  • From what i've heard... if this is a rocket and acts like that it has to spin at 8 times the speed of sound and wherever it fell down (most likely Norway, but no one's seen, heard or found shit there yet) it'd smack into the ground at 8 times the speed of sound leaving a comet trail a huge explosion and a humongous bang that would have been seen or heard from miles away immediately after the spiral seized to spin and admit the green light that came out of it

  • It is hard to believe a rocket spiralled perfectly, then left a hole.???

  • Could this be a project Blue Beam effect?

  • It appears to be so.

  • Jeff rense is a fake like alex Jones, they both work for Jesuits and Illuminati.

  • thought provoking, to say the least. ty

  • I live in Finland, if Russians would really have launched it from White Sea, our people would also have seen this.

    Plus, do you actually believe a missile would not be catch by Finnish, Swedish or Norwegian radar systems when launched?

    If it was, why are they silent? They have nothing to lose!

    So, missile thing is a nice cover up.

    It was something else, but i am not saying that it was UFO.

  • EISCAT/HAARP in Tromsø?

  • Thank you! I was wonder why my comment that this actually was taking place there, where they have a HAARP facility, was being ignored. It had to original from Norway, not Russia.

  • You're welcome, man! And if it were a rocket sent from Russia to Norway why didn't the Norwegian, Swedish or Finnish Airforce pick it up? Surely their radars must have seen this!

  • Yes, I think they knew it was coming and that is why they did the testing of rockets at the same time

  • UFO = ALIENS=DEMONS

    HAARP= DEMONS LEAD = HIDDEN TECHNOLOGY

    KING OF LIES = SATAN

    Evil never shows up as pure evil, it ALWAYS masks it self in half truths (beauty covering). This was all predicted in the Bible 2K years ago.

    Get right with the Lord - Read the King James Bible and cry out to Jesus. Pray directly to Jesus.

    God Bless

  • Yes this is true, and done by the Jesuits! they are RRC and mother Harlot of lies.

  • The colorized trails might be a result of some reaction in the ionosphere. And that "black hole" is most likely just the engine going out.

  • This image has been photoshopped. Look at some of the other videos. The image is very different from most of the others. Also, in some of the other images, you can really see that the spiral is made of smoke and there is distortion of the spiral. The spiral is much smaller than this one in the other images. Finally, look on Google images using keywords - missile failure spiral - and you will see images of similar events and trails from 2007.

  • That image was taken with a slow closing lens by a photographer who took the time to set up a professional camera.

  • Maybe it was taken by a Russian plant? REMEMBER, THEY WERE SHOWING THE TECHNOLOGY OFF. Of course they needed good pictures. It was still a real pic.

  • Those pix were taken in Norway! There were thousands of witnesses streching over 1000 miles

  • Don't get me wrong @roskkildahphreak, if something funky is going on in the skies of Norway, I am ready to hear it, but this was an unexpected event. How was it that this professional photographer had time to set up for this photo. In the videos I have seen, the event was very short lived. Also, professional or not, this image does not reflect the event as every other video shows it. Are we to disregard all the other video images?

  • Dear sir.

    From what i've heard the phenomena lasted for 10-15 minutes. And i suspect the media for choosing videos and footage that suit the official explanation.

  • I think I personally can not be certain what this event was. People who make the case that it was a missile, seem to make a fair case, but some strange things are going on with this event. To name a few, what is the blue beam extending up from the ground, why is the expanding black hole blacker than the sky around, why are there multiple versions, not just multiple angles, but completely different versions of the event. Like a criminal, if the gov wants to cover something up, they can and will.

  • According to my friend who was a 1st hand eyewitness (and other eye witness accounts i've heard) the beam was green and came OUT of the spiral.

    And that black hole spread almost across the entire sky.

  • EISCAT, a HAARP program lies just outside one of the norwegian cities where alot of the the footage was taken

  • So if this image was taken in Norway, then how did the photographer know the event was coming? How did the photographer have time to set up the camera? Did he / she take more images? Can we see the other images?

  • GREAT POST! ! !

  • Crazyness~

  • It makes sense that this was a Russian display of their capabilities...right when the eyes of the world were focused on that area already, because of Obama being there and the Copenhagen Summit.

  • dark matter and a black hole are 2 different things : D

  • ok if you listen to the raidio conversation the guy explains a bit about dark matter.. if it was dark matter (aka as a black hole) demonstrated by russia then that could explain the spining effect due to the gravitation of a black hole. a black hole bends light and the massive pull it had could of gatherd the surounding light from the city to show a vortex of light being bent and sucked twards the spining black hole, leaving spining light rays to follow.

  • Ilove the way this is all over the MSM.

    `NOT !

    Great post

  • Failed missile, my foot.

  • I have a question that i wish someone could answer. I am curious as to why Norway is so adamant on catering to O? I watched the ordeal at the Nobel Prize award in Oslo. The Norwegian guy introducing O seemed as though he was controlling or wanting to control the whole outcome with O getting the award. I now think this sky show was part of the "welcome". Could it have something to do with Norway not being in the EU? I hope so.

  • Actually, I just googled" HAARP in Norway", and there is a facility right there in Tromso!

  • Also, I believe that the US and Russia collaborate together on many things behind the scenes. It also looks to me that it is more likely coming from the HAARP facility that is in Northern Norway.

  • salida100, your comments are interesting but I differ with your idea of the ionizing beam being turned off to creat the dark center. If that were the case, why is it still "glowing" like a corona around the dark circle? It may be true that someone could go so far as to opague out the center of the beam, maybe, BUT if ionized waves characteristically glow, that would "bleed" into the dark center. I speculate it is something similar to the cloud "hole" pics we see on Chemtrail vids.

  • Hi roseysunrise - Your bleeding statement is correct. I dunno why the centre is dark.

    I don't know about "cloud hole pics". Maybe that is something like you get under a rainbow, where the sky under the rainbow is darker than above. (Due to scattering).

    I think you've got me stumped again.

    It's not that important of course, but still interesting.

    Thanks for reply

    Cheers

  • Folks, don't even bother to even waste a minute on this nonsense.

    Look at a 180 Degree angle in the opposite direction.

    Massive changes and adaptations in the monetary system, right behind your back.

  • Hi agilphilosopher - There is time for amusing yourself with this stuff too.

    I absolutely agree that it could be used as a distraction for the masses from "real news."

    I'm guessing most people here are aware of what's going on 180 deg away as well.

    Your point is relevant of course. Maybe your comment should be addressed to the male populace. The females can multi-task and deal with both things at the same time.

    Cheers

  • No problem mate.

    As long as our children don't start to believe in this, there's fun in their silly games of despair of loosing control over the uncontrollable.

  • Hi Agilephilosopher - I think i see what you mean.

    There're enough mythologies out there without having to create new ones.

    I agree, no point in worrying about stuff that you can have no effect upon anyway.

    Having said that, there are things afoot, by govmn'ts and their controllers that are not nice, and they seem to be accelerating things towards a not very nice place.

    People will need to help each other out with this financial nonsense too.

    Cheers

  • The color of the light is wrong for it to be a rocket. It looks electromagnetic or beyond electromagnetic to me

  • Exactly

  • Great vid as usuall my friend!

  • A pretty spirally thing - very nice.

    Yes - missile story is bollox.

    Could be a military display/test - sure. Could possibly be someone in their back yard playing with their home built ionising beam machine or something.

    Cliff High - possibly right, although the black hole theory is unnecessary. A rotating ionising beam, when it is switched off would likely give the same effect as the black hole bit.

    The spiral bit is excitement of air molecules which would likely propagate ...cont'd...