Vaka vanha Väinämöinen, tietäjä iänikuinen... Kokeilkaapa muuten itse lausua Kalevalan runoja tämän vanhan mitan mukaan, on helvetin vahvaa settiä ja jotenkin se vaan soljuu suomalaisen kieleltä luonnollisesti ja etenkin voimakkaasti. Tulee härö fiilis, kuin sais suoran yhteyden johonkin jo menetettyyn.
@TheDevilbound thx for your answer, now get off your pitiful high horse, there's no need to insult when one asks a question. The picture is then an excellent CGI, but it could've been a photomanipulation just as well.
Indeed it might have been traded stuff - I guess we never know how they got in that lake.
In the Viking age many Scandinavians served as bodyguards to the Byzantine king - that might have explained the items from the Byzantine Empire in Scandinavia
No offense - but I think you might have to look at a map - the Netherlands and Denmark has never shared a border - Denmark only border Germany.
Netherlands border Germany - Belgium, Luxemborg and France
Sorry, my bad. I tend to get often confused with Danes and Dutch. And borders have kinda changed during the centuries.
But minor (haha) issues aside, yes, Varangians certainly went to Byzantium. And also founded what Russian nowadays is called Novgorod. The original name is Holmgård. A Finnish "battle metal" band Turisas has told the story nicely. Just look for Holmgård and beyond. Is here in YT, too.
@Joonavainio The borders has changed and Denmark was once a much larger country but never in our history have we bordered the Netherlands. Our largest extent was probaly when we controlled entire Scandinavia in the Kalmar Union. Other wise we have had several smaller empires - and we are the only nation in the world to conquer England.
Yeah, Kalmari Union was one of the first Scandinavian Unions. And the Hansa before that. I see you are interested in our common European history. I'll send you a private mail to give my messenger contact info if you wish to chat.
And by the way, we are the only continental nation which was never conquered in WW2 :)
@Joonavainio The Hansa League wasnt an union in that way - it was a merchant union which protected ships from pirates. the Kalmar Union was 3 kingdoms ruled under one crown (The Danish crown)
England was conquered by Denmark in the 11th century.
Our history of war is mostly shamefull from 1700-1945. The only thing that has always been strong in our history is our navy.
Erm, this is not actually a rune song as inspellsong. It is just a lullaby. Nuku, nuku nurmilintu... Seriously, you Finnish guys don't recognise it?
And I ain't even Karelian, but Tavastian. Nice take on that one. Would prefer one with a kantele at strings with the flute, though. Nothing quite matches a kantele's crisp sound.
Well, it is about fifty-sixty. Which was first? The lullaby or someone using it to rhythm the Kalevala metre? Maamme is originally a German drinking song, as we know.
But anyway, it's not a big issue was the hen before the egg. Nice tune and nice rendition in any case.
Scientifically speaking, there is no question egg was before a hen, so I agree. Because some critter that was certainly very henlike laid an egg where the chick hatched from. Crossing the line between not hen - hen.
they all believed in the same gods and customs untill the rise of the roman empire. most people have the opposite view though, they know that runes are known to norway sweden and finnland but skip over gemany. Well at least that's the way around me but I'm surrounded by Scandinavians.
@Metaldude1945 it would take more then 500 characters to explain why but all northern countries had runes. and they all worshiped the same it wasn't until the conquering of the northern lands by rome and the church that we started to see a drastic difference.
That simply is not true. The Fenno-Ugrian mythology is a wholly different beast from the Germanic-Nordic. Of course they influenced each other over time. And didn't see much of Romans here. Romans never ever "conquered" the Nordic countries. Judging by their historical accounts they didn't even visit as even Tacitus knows jack shit of Scandinavia. Get your history straight, please. Tourists are, of course, welcome.
@Joonavainio never said the myths were the same the gods names were pronounced teh same but had different myths about them. it's part of why germany still has donnerstag or thunders day the day of the week dedicated to thor. and rome never did conquer scandanavia but the government of scandanavia still fell to the church which was the point i was trying to make. Germany lost to rome and scandanavia eventually fell to the church. And yes i know Scandinavia still has a lot of pagans
I appreciate your interest in Nordic mythology. Both Finnish and Germanic. But I must say the names for the gods were not generally related either. Or do they have Ukko, Rauni, Tapio, Pekko, Mielikki, Hiisi and such as related names in Norse mythology? I don't think so.
Romans never conquered Germania east of Rhine. No offence, but please get at least some facts straight.
@Joonavainio Couldnt help replying to this - I remember reading about finding many Roman weapons and armor in a Danish lake (Rome never conquested Denmark) - archeoligists later found out it was victory spoils dumped in a lake - guess what happed to the Roman soldiers that met the Danish norse people :)
It is no wonder one can find Roman stuff so near as Denmark. Ceertainly they visited Denmark, although did not annex it. Also, the findings can be spoils of war or just traded. Finland has a lot of Byzantine coins in grave findings, for example. Prolly thanks to Varangians.
@Joonavainio Yeah you're right - The Romans did visit Denmark but didnt wage war against us - their armies never got this far north but Ive heard tales of their ships visiting Denmark
But Id rather think that some Romans soldiers came to Denmark - met the Danes and got killed, there after the Danes dumped their bodies/equipment in a nearby lake and here we are. That make more sense to me
Ive heard about an Budda statue from India reached as far as Scandinavia because of trade.
Your speculation of the origin of Roman stuff in Denmark makes sense. So does trading as well. If you use Finland as an example, most grave findings seem to be just traded or "souveniers" from trips to Byzantium. Some claim Caligula built a copy of the Alexandria lighthouse near the Dutch-Danish border of today.
Yes, there is a connection between Finland (and rest of Scandinavia) and the Far East.
The movie Jade Warrior is one fictional example of that. Recommended.
@Joonavainio this is part of why i still wish to visit my ancestral home of norway but all in all sorry bout the confusion explaining the differences in myth is why i said it would take more then 500 carachters to explain.
One can also read H.W.Longfellow's The Song of Hiawatha along this melody, since its author was influenced by (the German translation of) the Kalevala to use trochaic tetrameter in his epic poem as well.
I have the only (98-year-old and nowadays rare) Finnish translation of TSoH, and I've read both parts of it as well as the original (on the Internet for free) along this melody and, unsurprisingly, the Finnish fits better; Finnish language is naturally trochaic while English is iambic.
@aivopark Why? Many people watching this do not know about any of it, please share your information instead of being angry. People like to learn sometimes.
been reading the runes from lönnroths book w/ o that melody and it sounded odd , incomplete and hard to grasp also tedious at times.
but singing it along this melody, and all of a sudden the message gets transported nicely. the old way of transporting stories, news and legends is singing - in the days before the books and newspapers.
No, the word rune does not mean the markings in this context . The Kalevala poems are called runes in the oldest English translations, and the way these poems were performed is called rune-singing. It´s probably just an anglicized derivation of the Finnish runo, but I´m not sure.
@soanoen Well, Kalevala and Kanteletar are the primary sources and contain the best known poems. You could always check out your local library for editions in your language. But if it´s the original you want, you should get the Finnish ones.
At the moment I have not the time. I'am very busy at the Conservatory but after the exams of the studends I will make a (private) video only for you my friend.
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Vaka vanha Väinämöinen, tietäjä iänikuinen... Kokeilkaapa muuten itse lausua Kalevalan runoja tämän vanhan mitan mukaan, on helvetin vahvaa settiä ja jotenkin se vaan soljuu suomalaisen kieleltä luonnollisesti ja etenkin voimakkaasti. Tulee härö fiilis, kuin sais suoran yhteyden johonkin jo menetettyyn.
Verilepakko 2 weeks ago 2
Please give me a link to this photo (1:45). It's awesome!
cyrakin00yoyo 2 weeks ago
@cyrakin00yoyo get the youtube downloader for firefox and you can screencapture it off VLC media player. that's what i am gonna do.
crazymedic7 1 week ago
@crazymedic7 Ok thanks for help ;]
cyrakin00yoyo 1 week ago
European mythology is the best I am from Peru but I love the mythology and above the metal
marduk284 2 weeks ago
Damn is 1:45 a real place???
timmytapeworm13 2 weeks ago
Kaunista-
arkhibas 3 weeks ago
is that last photo, with the sharp-angle mountains, in finland?! what is the name of the place?
Rosmarella 1 month ago
@Rosmarella Dumbass that is CGI. Google it.
TheDevilbound 4 weeks ago
@TheDevilbound thx for your answer, now get off your pitiful high horse, there's no need to insult when one asks a question. The picture is then an excellent CGI, but it could've been a photomanipulation just as well.
Rosmarella 3 weeks ago
the one disliker must be satan..
PaTZi300 1 month ago 6
@PaTZi300
It was Äijö.
HelsinkiXdrunkcore 1 month ago
@PaTZi300 Satan?! I sure hope you mean Hiisi
Lirquin 1 month ago
what idiot would dislike such a beautiful melody ? -.-
shit924 1 month ago 2
@shit924 Maybe they don't like Enska's interpretation.
nodeterin 2 weeks ago
hermosa melodia :) ♥!!!
TheVithe88 3 months ago
I allways hope to see a dream:
Väinämöinen and Odin fighting
Ukko and Thor fightning
It would be epic. Im proud of the mythologies we have in north
TheQneb 3 months ago 7
@TheQneb Ukko(Perkele)= Odin/Thor ^^
TheDevilbound 4 weeks ago
Love it
diamadtiel 3 months ago
I'm reading the Kalevala while listening to this. So epic!
jaksi7c8 3 months ago 6
hehe and estonians have Kalevipoeg :D
NoLifer2 3 months ago
There ain't no better way to spend these cold autumn nights here in Finland than sit under the bright stars and listen to this song.
Rukihairio 4 months ago 11
0 dislikes. wow.
nannaew 5 months ago
Indeed it might have been traded stuff - I guess we never know how they got in that lake.
In the Viking age many Scandinavians served as bodyguards to the Byzantine king - that might have explained the items from the Byzantine Empire in Scandinavia
No offense - but I think you might have to look at a map - the Netherlands and Denmark has never shared a border - Denmark only border Germany.
Netherlands border Germany - Belgium, Luxemborg and France
Blackie3391 6 months ago
@Blackie3391
Sorry, my bad. I tend to get often confused with Danes and Dutch. And borders have kinda changed during the centuries.
But minor (haha) issues aside, yes, Varangians certainly went to Byzantium. And also founded what Russian nowadays is called Novgorod. The original name is Holmgård. A Finnish "battle metal" band Turisas has told the story nicely. Just look for Holmgård and beyond. Is here in YT, too.
Joonavainio 6 months ago
@Joonavainio The borders has changed and Denmark was once a much larger country but never in our history have we bordered the Netherlands. Our largest extent was probaly when we controlled entire Scandinavia in the Kalmar Union. Other wise we have had several smaller empires - and we are the only nation in the world to conquer England.
Never heard of Holmgård before?
Blackie3391 6 months ago
@Blackie3391
Yeah, Kalmari Union was one of the first Scandinavian Unions. And the Hansa before that. I see you are interested in our common European history. I'll send you a private mail to give my messenger contact info if you wish to chat.
And by the way, we are the only continental nation which was never conquered in WW2 :)
Joonavainio 6 months ago
@Joonavainio The Hansa League wasnt an union in that way - it was a merchant union which protected ships from pirates. the Kalmar Union was 3 kingdoms ruled under one crown (The Danish crown)
England was conquered by Denmark in the 11th century.
Our history of war is mostly shamefull from 1700-1945. The only thing that has always been strong in our history is our navy.
Blackie3391 6 months ago
Erm, this is not actually a rune song as inspellsong. It is just a lullaby. Nuku, nuku nurmilintu... Seriously, you Finnish guys don't recognise it?
And I ain't even Karelian, but Tavastian. Nice take on that one. Would prefer one with a kantele at strings with the flute, though. Nothing quite matches a kantele's crisp sound.
Joonavainio 8 months ago
@Joonavainio
It's originally from Kalevala:
"Vaka vanha Väinämöinen,
tietäjä ijän ikuinen.."
sillilaari 8 months ago
@sillilaari
Well, it is about fifty-sixty. Which was first? The lullaby or someone using it to rhythm the Kalevala metre? Maamme is originally a German drinking song, as we know.
But anyway, it's not a big issue was the hen before the egg. Nice tune and nice rendition in any case.
Joonavainio 8 months ago
@Joonavainio
Good points. I agree.
(egg before hen) :oD
sillilaari 8 months ago
@sillilaari
Scientifically speaking, there is no question egg was before a hen, so I agree. Because some critter that was certainly very henlike laid an egg where the chick hatched from. Crossing the line between not hen - hen.
But wait... what if it was a rooster?
Joonavainio 8 months ago
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Thumb me up if you bought Kalevala too :D
toncarmelo 9 months ago
they all believed in the same gods and customs untill the rise of the roman empire. most people have the opposite view though, they know that runes are known to norway sweden and finnland but skip over gemany. Well at least that's the way around me but I'm surrounded by Scandinavians.
hailpazuzu 9 months ago
@hailpazuzu The Finnic tribes had no runes.
BalegardOfficial 8 months ago
Wait, the Finnish people had runes? They weren't a Germanic people, so i assumed they didn't have runes. Anyone inform me please!?
Metaldude1945 1 year ago
@Metaldude1945 They are called runot, but I guess the more accurate english translation would be rune than poem
Giefurmoney 11 months ago
@Metaldude1945 it would take more then 500 characters to explain why but all northern countries had runes. and they all worshiped the same it wasn't until the conquering of the northern lands by rome and the church that we started to see a drastic difference.
hailpazuzu 9 months ago
@hailpazuzu Even the finns? Them not being Germanic i thought they didn't have runes.
Metaldude1945 9 months ago
@hailpazuzu
That simply is not true. The Fenno-Ugrian mythology is a wholly different beast from the Germanic-Nordic. Of course they influenced each other over time. And didn't see much of Romans here. Romans never ever "conquered" the Nordic countries. Judging by their historical accounts they didn't even visit as even Tacitus knows jack shit of Scandinavia. Get your history straight, please. Tourists are, of course, welcome.
Joonavainio 8 months ago
@Joonavainio never said the myths were the same the gods names were pronounced teh same but had different myths about them. it's part of why germany still has donnerstag or thunders day the day of the week dedicated to thor. and rome never did conquer scandanavia but the government of scandanavia still fell to the church which was the point i was trying to make. Germany lost to rome and scandanavia eventually fell to the church. And yes i know Scandinavia still has a lot of pagans
hailpazuzu 8 months ago
@hailpazuzu
I appreciate your interest in Nordic mythology. Both Finnish and Germanic. But I must say the names for the gods were not generally related either. Or do they have Ukko, Rauni, Tapio, Pekko, Mielikki, Hiisi and such as related names in Norse mythology? I don't think so.
Romans never conquered Germania east of Rhine. No offence, but please get at least some facts straight.
Joonavainio 8 months ago
@Joonavainio Couldnt help replying to this - I remember reading about finding many Roman weapons and armor in a Danish lake (Rome never conquested Denmark) - archeoligists later found out it was victory spoils dumped in a lake - guess what happed to the Roman soldiers that met the Danish norse people :)
Blackie3391 6 months ago
@Blackie3391
It is no wonder one can find Roman stuff so near as Denmark. Ceertainly they visited Denmark, although did not annex it. Also, the findings can be spoils of war or just traded. Finland has a lot of Byzantine coins in grave findings, for example. Prolly thanks to Varangians.
Joonavainio 6 months ago
@Joonavainio Yeah you're right - The Romans did visit Denmark but didnt wage war against us - their armies never got this far north but Ive heard tales of their ships visiting Denmark
But Id rather think that some Romans soldiers came to Denmark - met the Danes and got killed, there after the Danes dumped their bodies/equipment in a nearby lake and here we are. That make more sense to me
Ive heard about an Budda statue from India reached as far as Scandinavia because of trade.
Blackie3391 6 months ago
@Blackie3391
Your speculation of the origin of Roman stuff in Denmark makes sense. So does trading as well. If you use Finland as an example, most grave findings seem to be just traded or "souveniers" from trips to Byzantium. Some claim Caligula built a copy of the Alexandria lighthouse near the Dutch-Danish border of today.
Yes, there is a connection between Finland (and rest of Scandinavia) and the Far East.
The movie Jade Warrior is one fictional example of that. Recommended.
Joonavainio 6 months ago
@Joonavainio this is part of why i still wish to visit my ancestral home of norway but all in all sorry bout the confusion explaining the differences in myth is why i said it would take more then 500 carachters to explain.
hailpazuzu 8 months ago
@hailpazuzu
hailpazuzu 8 months ago
One can also read H.W.Longfellow's The Song of Hiawatha along this melody, since its author was influenced by (the German translation of) the Kalevala to use trochaic tetrameter in his epic poem as well.
I have the only (98-year-old and nowadays rare) Finnish translation of TSoH, and I've read both parts of it as well as the original (on the Internet for free) along this melody and, unsurprisingly, the Finnish fits better; Finnish language is naturally trochaic while English is iambic.
Hirvassalo 1 year ago
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SuperKhazar 1 year ago
Kalevala, Finland, Suomi, don`t mix with the fucking viking ships!
aivopark 1 year ago
@aivopark Why? Many people watching this do not know about any of it, please share your information instead of being angry. People like to learn sometimes.
7The7Green7 1 year ago
This remind me The Zelda's Ocarina. lol But I love it.
Aerodeadd 1 year ago
been reading the runes from lönnroths book w/ o that melody and it sounded odd , incomplete and hard to grasp also tedious at times.
but singing it along this melody, and all of a sudden the message gets transported nicely. the old way of transporting stories, news and legends is singing - in the days before the books and newspapers.
zoolkhan 1 year ago
This is so lovely, why why why on earth isn't this one on spotify? >:(
lehtinen1337 1 year ago
@lehtinen1337 what is spotify.
zoolkhan 1 year ago
GREAT SONG....
MARU1590 1 year ago
@MARU1590 its in the charts since abt 3000 yrs :)
zoolkhan 1 year ago 2
Epic, awesome video.
rottenstrawberry 2 years ago
Hail VerdigoA!!! no comments but just AWESOME!!!
katensiferum 2 years ago
could someone send me the picture in minute 1.38 pls ? I love it
Vikingaxe1066 2 years ago
@Vikingaxe1066
thank you verdigo !
Vikingaxe1066 2 years ago
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1:48 ei kyllä vittu oo suomesta tuo,
BioHazard1Fin1 2 years ago
Kuka niin on väittäny talipallero?
NSjoushe 2 years ago
Is this song traditional of finland or made by ensiferum?
ynsemred 2 years ago
It´s ancient Finnic rune song. You´re supposed to read the Kalevala poems along this melody.
torhjelm 2 years ago 38
Cool. Thanx.
ynsemred 2 years ago
Do you mean "rune" like the alphabet the Vikings used, or in the Finnish term of a song (Runo)?
Avishkush91 2 years ago
No, the word rune does not mean the markings in this context . The Kalevala poems are called runes in the oldest English translations, and the way these poems were performed is called rune-singing. It´s probably just an anglicized derivation of the Finnish runo, but I´m not sure.
torhjelm 2 years ago 37
Kiitos :}
It would be awesome if people will start writing Runoja again.
Avishkush91 2 years ago
@torhjelm aah.....finnish eoic poems...the kalevala...the most wonderful literature piece i've ever read....
CarenT1234567 10 months ago
Doing it right now, god I love that book, fits very well with all this music and finland
Dimrain48 2 years ago
@torhjelm
where can you find those poems? i mean, i wanna know more cause this song makes me wanna know more..
soanoen 1 year ago
@soanoen Well, Kalevala and Kanteletar are the primary sources and contain the best known poems. You could always check out your local library for editions in your language. But if it´s the original you want, you should get the Finnish ones.
torhjelm 1 year ago
its not hard to play on guitar, so dont think it would be hard to play on piano tbh, sounds pretty simple, awesome song tho.
Nidvardir 2 years ago
Very nice melody.
ynsemred 2 years ago
Great music!
Excelente!
GERMANETCHEVERRY 2 years ago
At the moment I have not the time. I'am very busy at the Conservatory but after the exams of the studends I will make a (private) video only for you my friend.
pianist626262 2 years ago