@listen2meokidoki Your reply just made you sound like a self-absorbed idiot, who doesn't realise the differences in language within different cultures. Also, you spelled 'appaling' wrong :)
@RoyStewart, although i disagree with you, for now i will accept that you think global warming is a farce. However, you cannot deny that we are definitely adding co2 to the atmosphere, and it is scientific fact, not theory, that this will lead to ocean acidification. You are a fool.
It's actually evidenced by academic science using temporal and spatial based PH measures, video, photo and physical scientific logging. The effects are clearly shown as well. It's just basic chemistry observed. CO2 reduces calcium carbonate, thereby bleaching corals and lowering PH. Just do your research and don't blame.
To clarify, the oceans are not becoming acidic (i.e. crossing from alkaline to acidic on the pH scale), they are rapidly becoming more acidic than they should be. Organisms, like corals and pelagic snails, living in the ocean cannot cope with the increase in acidity that is going to occur should carbon emissions remain as they are. Climate change is very real - I have been witnessing it first-hand as an Antarctic marine scientist.
This is a massive fraud, we have propaganda all over the place claiming that the oceans are acidic, when in fact they are not. National Geographic even caimed that beach glass shows etching from acid oceans which is imposible as the oceans are alkaline !
@RoyStewart They are BECOMING acidic. The scientific term for this is Acidification. It has been proven over and over and over. In other words, they are increasing in acidity in the non-scientific english.
@donsjuand Incorrect, the entire theory is full of holes and is being used as anti C02 propaganda by the same liars who brought us the 'global warming' scam. They are relying on the ignorance and gullibility of the public just as they did last time.
@donsjuand It's the acidification claimers who need to back up what they say, but they cannot because it is demonstrably false. The scammers need to be discredited !
Actually evidenced by academic science using temporal and spatial based PH measures, video, photo and physical scientific logging. The effects of the chemistry are shown on corals et al. It's just basic chemistry observed. CO2 reduces calcium carbonate, thereby bleaching corals and lowering PH. Just do your research and don't blame. I'm a University student and it will take reason to convince me, not horseshit.
That's BS by the way they claim to have identified changes in PH since 1750, but they didn't even have litmus paper then , it's just spin from the fraudsters who brought uyou 'global warming' and other anti human BS like eugenics and the completely nonsensical darwinian evolutionary theory. They should Fuggoff !
@RoyStewart Lets not get more confused by calling people fascists. I'm quite sure almost everyone is either factually correct, or incorrect. But mostly, confused. A fascist is a political animal who believes absolutely in an ideology. The problem with understanding excess CO2 is that it is essentially a scientific question. Humans, like monkeys are political animals. But political questions are never settled when the body politic doesn't understand the facts. We need to humour the few fascists.
@donsjuand You said to RoyStewart (no doubt a Scotsman) "Go blow smoke up your own ass - people don't need your lies". Well, you should have said Kilt not Ass. And Arse not Ass. But anyway, the sort of language I'm reading here is appauling. The only compensation is that "this" isn't the sort of debate one should expect in a scientific PEER review. Yes, we are obviously not scientist. Or are we? PS: Americans are not scientists because they can't spell METRE! A METER is a measuring device, etc!
Ocean acidification is a lie--the ocean waters are alkaline and will never go below a PH value of 7.
"Ocean acidification" is a term meant to scare the ignorant public into supporting the carbon credits trading scheme so a few people can make a lot of money.
An alkaline liquid cannot become more acidic--but I guess "reduced alkaline level" wasn't scary enough.
Phyto plankton thrive on CO2 and produce half the O2 we need to live, the other half being produced by land plants which also need CO2
NIKOLA TESLA could have saved us from this 100 yrs ago! please look it up, he created a wireless energy system that allowed energy to be obtained anywhere on earth! i put up info on my youtube and i demostrate a 20 ft wireless transmission to prove that the system works! we could build it right away and get off of this oil dependence, you can run cars wirelessly and never need oil again. please read tesla's "increasing human energy" it tells u real clean energy
:: "Ocean Acidification is now irreversible during our lifetimes...
It will take tens of thousands of years for ocean chemistry to return to a condition similar to that occurring at pre-industrial times (about 200 years ago).
..:: The report, in Science magazine, brings together dozens of studies that collectively paint a dismal picture of deteriorating ocean health.
hey everyone i made a song based on the environment called yellow+blue=green. I got the inspiration for the song on a bike ride with my friends, sorta trying to promote more economicaly based travel such as useing bikes instead of cars if ya catach my drift haha. The main line in the song is "leaving cracks in the pavement,not thesky" resembles making cracks with our bikes but not in the skywith the ozone layer, planes fumes etc id loveto hear from anyone so swimg by and give me a comment
hey everyone i made a song based on the environment called yellow+blue=green. I got the inspiration for the song on a bike ride with my friends, sorta trying to promote more economicaly based travel such as useing bikes instead of cars if ya catach my drift haha. The main line in the song is "leaving cracks in the pavement,not thesky" resembles making cracks with our bikes but not in the skywith the ozone layer, planes fumes etc id loveto hear from anyone so swimg by and give me a comment
"NATURE CONSERVANCY FACES POTENTIAL BACKLAST FROM TIES WITH BP" washingtonpost(.)com. Also, CONSERVATION INTERNATIONAL accepted $2 million from BP, so has THE ENVIRONMENTAL DEFENSE FUND joined with BP & SHELL & about 20 other energy & environmental groups, including the CONSERVANCY, the SIERRA CLUB & AUDUBON joined with BP Wind Energy to form the AMERICAN WIND & WILDLIFE INSTITUTE, which they say works to protect wildlife through "responsible" development of wind farms.
CO2 dissolves in water by reacting with it: CO2 + H2O --> HCO3- + H+. the hydrogen cation (H+) is what causes the acidity. sorry for not being able to put on subscripts and superscripts for proper chemical notation. guess research for the direct transformation of CO2 to useful things (eg methanol) should be more widely supported..
Carbon Dioxide is not a pollutant. Like Oxygen and Water, CO2 is an essential component of life on Earth. Every dollar spent on CO2 is money not spent on cleaning our air and water of real pollutants that are unquestionable caused by industrialization e.g. cyanide, chromium, trichloroethylene. Things that really kill us.
@Fight4Privacy Sigh. This video is not about CO2 causing climate change. It is clearly about CO2 pollution acidifying our oceans, which is a severe threat to marine ecosystems - whether or not CO2 changes the climate. What is with you denial people? Do you just deny everything to do with CO2?
#Modern-age buildup of CO2 and its effects on seawater acidity and salinity#
(Geophysical Research Letters, Volume 33, Number 10, May 2006) "This paper's results concerning average seawater salinity and acidity show that, on a global scale and over the time scales considered (hundreds of years), there would not be accentuated changes in either seawater salinity or acidity from the observed or hypothesized rises in atmospheric CO2 concentrations."
@GabbiXJordan it is very hard for greenpeace to get on TV besides in the news when they do something crazy to attract attention. It's not their fault... but ALL TV channels are supported by commercials paid by companies that use Oil and pollute the air
@bv90andy *note: the following isn't meant to sound like I'm a know it all, and it's not meant to sound rude. Tone doesn't translate well in text* Trust me, I do know this. Note the 'should be'. I know that nobody in this damn world cares about this enough to put it onto TV. I just wish that people would open there eyes and take a look at what's in front of them :|
Ok yes this is true but your not telling the whole story. What about the acidification of our coastlines causing increased weathering and increased acidity of rain causing rock weathering. This will increase carbonate levels in the ocean drastically which will cause the ocean to be more basic. You are not stating the counter balance to this acidification problem. That ocean acidity could be countered by increased rock weathering. It's not a black and white problem please do not treat it this way
@totallymassive It's a one minute video. And the weathering process takes thousands of years, so is in no way able to counteract acidification within anything like the same timeframe
@directactioncam Every time it rains there is weathering, it happens on a monthly basis (if not all the time) not millions of years. Also, with increased acidity of rain, there will be way more carbonate weathered and at a faster rate. There wont be just release of carbonate from shells and coral reefs, there are other sources of carbonate for the oceans and weathering of rock is most likely the biggest release of carbonate to the oceans (that is as long as rain water is acidic).
@totallymassive Yes. But my point is that weathering causes oceans to become more basic much, much more slowly than CO2 is causing them to become less basic. This is why marine biologists are extremely concerned about the impact of acidification on marine ecosystems. Natural systems are always complicated and the scientific picture is never straightforward, so in that respect you're right. What you seem to fail to grasp is the potential to draw conclusions about probable near-term impacts.
@totallymassive I like to think people prefer not to create a problem at all in the first place. Perhaps this is what this Greenpeace video is aiming at. Why mention counter measures when they are trying to stop the cause of the problem?
@totallymassive ".. the acidification of our coastlines causing increased weathering and increased acidity of rain causing rock weathering. This will increase carbonate levels in the ocean drastically which will cause the ocean to be more basic."
Salts of carbonic acid are not basic. Therefore acid rain can't make oceans basic.
@th3dig1tal0n3 Yes this is somewhat true, but if the acidity of the ocean and of the atmosphere are used in the process of erosion or weathering of carbonate minerals that are basic then those acids will be neutralized. That will mitigate the acidity, and normalize it quite quickly (not over millions of years) the process happen faster with increased acidity. It's not just going to "attack" carbonate in shells of organisms but most likely effect coastal weathering of rock carbonate.
@totallymassive The most of carbon dioxide in ocean water comes form the air. Carbon dioxide slowly forms weak carbonic acid, and lots of carbon dioxide just dissolves in water not contributing to the acidification. The coastal area gets a lot of silt and clay rich water from rivers, countering the acidification caused by carbon dioxide. On the other hand ocean water far away form coast does not get any silt rich water, and before you know it ocean gets acidified by the carbon dioxide.
@th3dig1tal0n3 The carbonate ion is a pretty strong base, any acid will probably react with it. This will cause rock weathering and erosion of the carbonate ion neutralizing it but also releasing it. Also I think the ocean is pretty uniform when it comes to acidity due to the relatively fast movement of ions across their gradients (high to low) also negative ions will move towards positive ions quite quickly as well. Also CO2 will go into H20 quickly if the right conditions are present.
@totallymassive "The carbonate ion is a pretty strong base, " - wrong, it is not strong and it is not base. Carbonate ion CO3 reacts as a weak acid with metals and metal oxides. That is why it eats away metal oxide rich rock, causing erosion. It reacts with alkaline, alkaline earth, and some of transition metals and metal oxides. Mixing and distribution of carbon dioxide in oceans is limited by temperature gradient induced barriers and thermohaline circulation. I think it is quite slow.
@th3dig1tal0n3 "The carbonate ion is a moderately strong base" - Wikipedia. "Wrong" lol, do some research before you say someone is "wrong", also the rest of your post was just as confusing.
@totallymassive I hoped that you can differentiate between base of an acid and basic chemistry. Do research more than first wiki page next time and please check carbonic acid and carbonates page too. Most carbonates are water insoluble, however marine life that forms shells uses water soluble carbonates, and is sensitive to pH of 6 and lower. That is because carbonic acid allows dynamic equilibrium between carbonates, bicarbonates, hydroxides and oxides of metals in the same solution.
@totallymassive "The carbonate ion is a moderately strong base" - Wikipedia, your quote, meaning it is moderately strong base of an acid. it has negative two charges, and is less reactive than for example Cl ion ( one negative charge ), and that makes it weak acid ( moderately strong base of an acid ). Because it has two negative charges it reacts with ions with positive charges usually metal ions, oxidizing them like any other acid does.
@totallymassive regardless of theoretical balancing from eroding rock (not that I am denying the local effect of such a situation) coral reefs are still bleaching and the cause seems to be acidic water conditions. Many reefs lie at depths or distances too far to be immediately effected by eroding coastal rock, but are continually being bombarded by excess CO2.
@WaterShowsProd It is not a local effect, rock weathering effects the entire ocean.The time scale for the deep ocean is very long possibly 100,00 years but the coral reefs are in shallow water, and therefore will be effect within years if not sooner.Also if enough weathering occurs that would potentially effect the deep ocean way sooner . Also, increased bleaching is caused by alot of things, saying that current bleaching is because of acidity is incorrect (most of it is because of temperature).
@totallymassive You're talking about eroded rock possibly correcting the PH balance within years, but coral dies off faster than that in acidic water.
I agree that shallow reefs would benefit from rock weathering, but unless those reefs are near exposed rock and receive the amount of rainfall needed, it's not quite a panacea.
Shallow reefs may be far from dry land. There are plenty of reefs lying in 80 feet of water a few miles from shore. How long will it take for eroded rock to reach them?
I think you are right in a one dimensional fashion though , ironically the weathering of rock does noramlly entail a release of otherwise bound co2 on land and out of the rock so the net effect isnt to be considered an antidote to ocean acidification.
@chrisobe The buffering capacity of the ocean itself is enormous. To see a large change in acidity as some predict is nearly impossible (some people forget it's salt water and full of organisms). I'm not saying it's not a problem. Local areas that are exposed to high levels of acidity might be effected greatly but on the whole it's unlikely to see extreme change in the acidity department, also the coast lines that are most susceptible to acidity have a source of bases to erode from the land.
@totallymassive Regardless of the effect you are claiming, PH levels in the oceans have shown increased acidity over time, consistently. My source is the UN, accredited marine biologists and scientific journals. I'm an environmental studies student.
@donsjuand There is a lag effect to re-adjust. There will be spikes and then it will be neutralized. I find how they don't even mention rock weathering, as being bias.
It is something to worry about but one must understand all effects and not just the ones you wish to understand. Then and only then can we actually find a resolution to an issue.
Telling people what to think without giving them a proper picture is wrong and that is what I was say. The world isn't black and white.
@MonyMG1959 yes all those chemicals and bleach and stuff~ us few greenies have little effect on the sewerage waste pumped out~ still i use the least harmful products possible~ i hope
@listen2meokidoki Your reply just made you sound like a self-absorbed idiot, who doesn't realise the differences in language within different cultures. Also, you spelled 'appaling' wrong :)
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@RoyStewart, although i disagree with you, for now i will accept that you think global warming is a farce. However, you cannot deny that we are definitely adding co2 to the atmosphere, and it is scientific fact, not theory, that this will lead to ocean acidification. You are a fool.
andygd8 8 months ago
Good video, keep up the knowledge sharing :)
donsjuand 9 months ago
CO2 reacts with water to create carbonic acid, H2CO3. Basic chemistry.
This is your acid and you are a fool.
donsjuand 9 months ago
Do you work for big oil?
donsjuand 10 months ago
It's actually evidenced by academic science using temporal and spatial based PH measures, video, photo and physical scientific logging. The effects are clearly shown as well. It's just basic chemistry observed. CO2 reduces calcium carbonate, thereby bleaching corals and lowering PH. Just do your research and don't blame.
donsjuand 10 months ago
To clarify, the oceans are not becoming acidic (i.e. crossing from alkaline to acidic on the pH scale), they are rapidly becoming more acidic than they should be. Organisms, like corals and pelagic snails, living in the ocean cannot cope with the increase in acidity that is going to occur should carbon emissions remain as they are. Climate change is very real - I have been witnessing it first-hand as an Antarctic marine scientist.
Kim0nIce 10 months ago
This is a massive fraud, we have propaganda all over the place claiming that the oceans are acidic, when in fact they are not. National Geographic even caimed that beach glass shows etching from acid oceans which is imposible as the oceans are alkaline !
No more 'climate change' fraud !!!
RoyStewart 1 year ago
@RoyStewart They are BECOMING acidic. The scientific term for this is Acidification. It has been proven over and over and over. In other words, they are increasing in acidity in the non-scientific english.
donsjuand 10 months ago
@donsjuand Incorrect, the entire theory is full of holes and is being used as anti C02 propaganda by the same liars who brought us the 'global warming' scam. They are relying on the ignorance and gullibility of the public just as they did last time.
RoyStewart 10 months ago
@RoyStewart Yep got it, you blame and back up no claim. You seek to discredit and provide no knowledge.
donsjuand 10 months ago
@donsjuand It's the acidification claimers who need to back up what they say, but they cannot because it is demonstrably false. The scammers need to be discredited !
RoyStewart 9 months ago
Actually evidenced by academic science using temporal and spatial based PH measures, video, photo and physical scientific logging. The effects of the chemistry are shown on corals et al. It's just basic chemistry observed. CO2 reduces calcium carbonate, thereby bleaching corals and lowering PH. Just do your research and don't blame. I'm a University student and it will take reason to convince me, not horseshit.
donsjuand 10 months ago
@donsjuand Your chemistry is up the pole, I'm a university graduate and it will take reason to convince me, not studentshit.
RoyStewart 9 months ago
CO2 cannot reduce alkalinity as it does not add Hydrogen ions. You are being sold a Mickey.
RoyStewart 9 months ago
That's BS by the way they claim to have identified changes in PH since 1750, but they didn't even have litmus paper then , it's just spin from the fraudsters who brought uyou 'global warming' and other anti human BS like eugenics and the completely nonsensical darwinian evolutionary theory. They should Fuggoff !
RoyStewart 9 months ago
@RoyStewart Go blow smoke up your own ass - people don't need your lies.
donsjuand 9 months ago
@donsjuand Sorry but you are the one who is peddling lies, you fake eco fascist.
RoyStewart 9 months ago
@RoyStewart Lets not get more confused by calling people fascists. I'm quite sure almost everyone is either factually correct, or incorrect. But mostly, confused. A fascist is a political animal who believes absolutely in an ideology. The problem with understanding excess CO2 is that it is essentially a scientific question. Humans, like monkeys are political animals. But political questions are never settled when the body politic doesn't understand the facts. We need to humour the few fascists.
listen2meokidoki 7 months ago
@donsjuand You said to RoyStewart (no doubt a Scotsman) "Go blow smoke up your own ass - people don't need your lies". Well, you should have said Kilt not Ass. And Arse not Ass. But anyway, the sort of language I'm reading here is appauling. The only compensation is that "this" isn't the sort of debate one should expect in a scientific PEER review. Yes, we are obviously not scientist. Or are we? PS: Americans are not scientists because they can't spell METRE! A METER is a measuring device, etc!
listen2meokidoki 7 months ago
Looks like we'll have oceans full of jellyfish and not much else in 50 years
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Ocean acidification is a lie--the ocean waters are alkaline and will never go below a PH value of 7.
"Ocean acidification" is a term meant to scare the ignorant public into supporting the carbon credits trading scheme so a few people can make a lot of money.
An alkaline liquid cannot become more acidic--but I guess "reduced alkaline level" wasn't scary enough.
Phyto plankton thrive on CO2 and produce half the O2 we need to live, the other half being produced by land plants which also need CO2
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donsjuand 10 months ago
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:: "Ocean Acidification is now irreversible during our lifetimes...
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hey everyone i made a song based on the environment called yellow+blue=green. I got the inspiration for the song on a bike ride with my friends, sorta trying to promote more economicaly based travel such as useing bikes instead of cars if ya catach my drift haha. The main line in the song is "leaving cracks in the pavement,not thesky" resembles making cracks with our bikes but not in the skywith the ozone layer, planes fumes etc id loveto hear from anyone so swimg by and give me a comment
DaleParkerMusic 1 year ago
a great succinct explanation about ocean acidification
MrGChampion 1 year ago
"NATURE CONSERVANCY FACES POTENTIAL BACKLAST FROM TIES WITH BP" washingtonpost(.)com. Also, CONSERVATION INTERNATIONAL accepted $2 million from BP, so has THE ENVIRONMENTAL DEFENSE FUND joined with BP & SHELL & about 20 other energy & environmental groups, including the CONSERVANCY, the SIERRA CLUB & AUDUBON joined with BP Wind Energy to form the AMERICAN WIND & WILDLIFE INSTITUTE, which they say works to protect wildlife through "responsible" development of wind farms.
AquarielCharm 1 year ago
@AquarielCharm Interesting claims you've made. We need more wind farms and less fossil fuels. (ie none!)
donsjuand 10 months ago
La acidificación de los océanso, otra consecuencia del cambio climático
ToniClima 1 year ago
I just read that the IWC is going to discuss "relaxing" anti-whaling legislation next week after a 24 yr moratorium on commercial whaling.
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Clubdj14 1 year ago
CO2 dissolves in water by reacting with it: CO2 + H2O --> HCO3- + H+. the hydrogen cation (H+) is what causes the acidity. sorry for not being able to put on subscripts and superscripts for proper chemical notation. guess research for the direct transformation of CO2 to useful things (eg methanol) should be more widely supported..
elomelttil 1 year ago
@elomelttil Sorry but adding CO2 does not increase the number of hydrogen ions, so cannot reduce alkalinity.
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EcofriendlyCompany 1 year ago
Great demo but I doubt there will be any large fish or sharks left in 100 years time. Highly unlikely - and if so, only few. Poor buggers anyway.
fusion01wp 1 year ago
this is life, trial and error. We will fail but we must leave behind notes to the next homosapiens and tell them how not to make the same mistakes...
bv90andy 1 year ago
Carbon Dioxide is not a pollutant. Like Oxygen and Water, CO2 is an essential component of life on Earth. Every dollar spent on CO2 is money not spent on cleaning our air and water of real pollutants that are unquestionable caused by industrialization e.g. cyanide, chromium, trichloroethylene. Things that really kill us.
karlmahlmann 1 year ago
@karlmahlmann Well said.
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gonzalomatias198513 1 year ago
CO2 DOES NOT CHANGE THE CLIMATE!
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@Fight4Privacy Sigh. This video is not about CO2 causing climate change. It is clearly about CO2 pollution acidifying our oceans, which is a severe threat to marine ecosystems - whether or not CO2 changes the climate. What is with you denial people? Do you just deny everything to do with CO2?
directactioncam 1 year ago 3
very good vid indeed. thanks GP.
watersanctuary 1 year ago 3
I think 1:15 is too short, unless this is just a teaser for a more informative version.
theFirecat00 1 year ago
200 million years ago, the CO2 levels were at 4-5 times more than current levels.
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Clubdj14 1 year ago
#Modern-age buildup of CO2 and its effects on seawater acidity and salinity#
(Geophysical Research Letters, Volume 33, Number 10, May 2006) "This paper's results concerning average seawater salinity and acidity show that, on a global scale and over the time scales considered (hundreds of years), there would not be accentuated changes in either seawater salinity or acidity from the observed or hypothesized rises in atmospheric CO2 concentrations."
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Clubdj14 1 year ago
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costa020 1 year ago
great animation!! love it.
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johnydubz 1 year ago
are these on TV? if they're not, they should be :|
GabbiXJordan 1 year ago 26
@GabbiXJordan it is very hard for greenpeace to get on TV besides in the news when they do something crazy to attract attention. It's not their fault... but ALL TV channels are supported by commercials paid by companies that use Oil and pollute the air
bv90andy 1 year ago
@bv90andy *note: the following isn't meant to sound like I'm a know it all, and it's not meant to sound rude. Tone doesn't translate well in text* Trust me, I do know this. Note the 'should be'. I know that nobody in this damn world cares about this enough to put it onto TV. I just wish that people would open there eyes and take a look at what's in front of them :|
GabbiXJordan 1 year ago
Excellent video.
Rikotistic 1 year ago
Ok yes this is true but your not telling the whole story. What about the acidification of our coastlines causing increased weathering and increased acidity of rain causing rock weathering. This will increase carbonate levels in the ocean drastically which will cause the ocean to be more basic. You are not stating the counter balance to this acidification problem. That ocean acidity could be countered by increased rock weathering. It's not a black and white problem please do not treat it this way
totallymassive 1 year ago 20
@totallymassive It's a one minute video. And the weathering process takes thousands of years, so is in no way able to counteract acidification within anything like the same timeframe
directactioncam 1 year ago
@directactioncam Every time it rains there is weathering, it happens on a monthly basis (if not all the time) not millions of years. Also, with increased acidity of rain, there will be way more carbonate weathered and at a faster rate. There wont be just release of carbonate from shells and coral reefs, there are other sources of carbonate for the oceans and weathering of rock is most likely the biggest release of carbonate to the oceans (that is as long as rain water is acidic).
totallymassive 1 year ago 2
@totallymassive Yes. But my point is that weathering causes oceans to become more basic much, much more slowly than CO2 is causing them to become less basic. This is why marine biologists are extremely concerned about the impact of acidification on marine ecosystems. Natural systems are always complicated and the scientific picture is never straightforward, so in that respect you're right. What you seem to fail to grasp is the potential to draw conclusions about probable near-term impacts.
directactioncam 1 year ago 2
@totallymassive I like to think people prefer not to create a problem at all in the first place. Perhaps this is what this Greenpeace video is aiming at. Why mention counter measures when they are trying to stop the cause of the problem?
iimmortaall 1 year ago
@totallymassive ".. the acidification of our coastlines causing increased weathering and increased acidity of rain causing rock weathering. This will increase carbonate levels in the ocean drastically which will cause the ocean to be more basic."
Salts of carbonic acid are not basic. Therefore acid rain can't make oceans basic.
th3dig1tal0n3 1 year ago
@th3dig1tal0n3 Yes this is somewhat true, but if the acidity of the ocean and of the atmosphere are used in the process of erosion or weathering of carbonate minerals that are basic then those acids will be neutralized. That will mitigate the acidity, and normalize it quite quickly (not over millions of years) the process happen faster with increased acidity. It's not just going to "attack" carbonate in shells of organisms but most likely effect coastal weathering of rock carbonate.
totallymassive 1 year ago
@totallymassive The most of carbon dioxide in ocean water comes form the air. Carbon dioxide slowly forms weak carbonic acid, and lots of carbon dioxide just dissolves in water not contributing to the acidification. The coastal area gets a lot of silt and clay rich water from rivers, countering the acidification caused by carbon dioxide. On the other hand ocean water far away form coast does not get any silt rich water, and before you know it ocean gets acidified by the carbon dioxide.
th3dig1tal0n3 1 year ago
@th3dig1tal0n3 The carbonate ion is a pretty strong base, any acid will probably react with it. This will cause rock weathering and erosion of the carbonate ion neutralizing it but also releasing it. Also I think the ocean is pretty uniform when it comes to acidity due to the relatively fast movement of ions across their gradients (high to low) also negative ions will move towards positive ions quite quickly as well. Also CO2 will go into H20 quickly if the right conditions are present.
totallymassive 1 year ago
@totallymassive "The carbonate ion is a pretty strong base, " - wrong, it is not strong and it is not base. Carbonate ion CO3 reacts as a weak acid with metals and metal oxides. That is why it eats away metal oxide rich rock, causing erosion. It reacts with alkaline, alkaline earth, and some of transition metals and metal oxides. Mixing and distribution of carbon dioxide in oceans is limited by temperature gradient induced barriers and thermohaline circulation. I think it is quite slow.
th3dig1tal0n3 1 year ago
@th3dig1tal0n3 "The carbonate ion is a moderately strong base" - Wikipedia. "Wrong" lol, do some research before you say someone is "wrong", also the rest of your post was just as confusing.
totallymassive 1 year ago
@totallymassive I hoped that you can differentiate between base of an acid and basic chemistry. Do research more than first wiki page next time and please check carbonic acid and carbonates page too. Most carbonates are water insoluble, however marine life that forms shells uses water soluble carbonates, and is sensitive to pH of 6 and lower. That is because carbonic acid allows dynamic equilibrium between carbonates, bicarbonates, hydroxides and oxides of metals in the same solution.
th3dig1tal0n3 1 year ago
@th3dig1tal0n3 The carbonate ion (what I've been talking about) has a negative 2 charge, and is basic.
totallymassive 1 year ago
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@totallymassive "The carbonate ion is a moderately strong base" - Wikipedia, your quote, meaning it is moderately strong base of an acid. it has negative two charges, and is less reactive than for example Cl ion ( one negative charge ), and that makes it weak acid ( moderately strong base of an acid ). Because it has two negative charges it reacts with ions with positive charges usually metal ions, oxidizing them like any other acid does.
th3dig1tal0n3 1 year ago
@totallymassive regardless of theoretical balancing from eroding rock (not that I am denying the local effect of such a situation) coral reefs are still bleaching and the cause seems to be acidic water conditions. Many reefs lie at depths or distances too far to be immediately effected by eroding coastal rock, but are continually being bombarded by excess CO2.
WaterShowsProd 1 year ago 2
@WaterShowsProd It is not a local effect, rock weathering effects the entire ocean.The time scale for the deep ocean is very long possibly 100,00 years but the coral reefs are in shallow water, and therefore will be effect within years if not sooner.Also if enough weathering occurs that would potentially effect the deep ocean way sooner . Also, increased bleaching is caused by alot of things, saying that current bleaching is because of acidity is incorrect (most of it is because of temperature).
totallymassive 1 year ago
@totallymassive You're talking about eroded rock possibly correcting the PH balance within years, but coral dies off faster than that in acidic water.
I agree that shallow reefs would benefit from rock weathering, but unless those reefs are near exposed rock and receive the amount of rainfall needed, it's not quite a panacea.
Shallow reefs may be far from dry land. There are plenty of reefs lying in 80 feet of water a few miles from shore. How long will it take for eroded rock to reach them?
WaterShowsProd 1 year ago 2
@totallymassive
I think you are right in a one dimensional fashion though , ironically the weathering of rock does noramlly entail a release of otherwise bound co2 on land and out of the rock so the net effect isnt to be considered an antidote to ocean acidification.
chrisobe 1 year ago
@chrisobe The buffering capacity of the ocean itself is enormous. To see a large change in acidity as some predict is nearly impossible (some people forget it's salt water and full of organisms). I'm not saying it's not a problem. Local areas that are exposed to high levels of acidity might be effected greatly but on the whole it's unlikely to see extreme change in the acidity department, also the coast lines that are most susceptible to acidity have a source of bases to erode from the land.
totallymassive 1 year ago
@totallymassive you're*
cleanplasticchild 1 year ago
@totallymassive Regardless of the effect you are claiming, PH levels in the oceans have shown increased acidity over time, consistently. My source is the UN, accredited marine biologists and scientific journals. I'm an environmental studies student.
donsjuand 10 months ago
@donsjuand There is a lag effect to re-adjust. There will be spikes and then it will be neutralized. I find how they don't even mention rock weathering, as being bias.
It is something to worry about but one must understand all effects and not just the ones you wish to understand. Then and only then can we actually find a resolution to an issue.
Telling people what to think without giving them a proper picture is wrong and that is what I was say. The world isn't black and white.
totallymassive 10 months ago
well thats disturbing
martha368 1 year ago 4
well thats disturbing
martha368 1 year ago
creaps me out
lillesuper 1 year ago
yup, this sucks.
and what a time to mention how we're fucking up the oceans....
;d
666norton420 1 year ago
:-(
mienchen07 1 year ago 2
What about human waste? all the countries and their big cities with their sewer systems that dump into the oceans?
MonyMG1959 1 year ago
@MonyMG1959 yes all those chemicals and bleach and stuff~ us few greenies have little effect on the sewerage waste pumped out~ still i use the least harmful products possible~ i hope
iamearthbornami 1 year ago