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  • it's adding your own flavor.. it's how steve feels so that's why heused that tech. maybe he's confuse that time.. hehehe.

  • there would be no need for steve to tap over a Emaj7b9-Dm#5-Abmaj6/7 progression, he made his name famous in shred and metal , not jazz

  • @jake839 He played with freaking Frank Zappa...ofcourse he made a name playing Jazz.

  • *beat up

  • tapping isn't for fags. its for people who like the sound of tapping. you can't just walk up to someone and say "Hey bitch, my noise can but up ur noise" whats the point in it? if you don't like it don't watch it

  • I totally agree. Plus, there are a lot of stuff, voicings, chords e cetera that you can't get out of a guitar without tapping. Once I stumbled into an interesting chord while I was jamming. I dont know the name of the chord, but it was fret 11 on the low E-string, 13 on A, 12 on D, 14 on g, 13 on b and 15 on the e-string. So, the notes were basically Es-Bs-D-a-c-a. If you want the arpeggiated and all notes ringing out, there's no escape from applying tapping.

  • BAD AUDIO!!!!

  • without rythym and melody you may as well be dead

  • Vai has excellent skill (no doubt about that), but I don't really like most of his music because I feel he shows off too much. I like Satch because he doesn't show off and instead makes catchy and rythmic music. You can't tell me his left-hand solo on Cool #9 shows him as a bad player. He scores every single note, he just doesn't show off. Don't get me wrong, I like some Vai songs, but most of his music seems like show-of. My opinion, that is

  • i agree with danelectro...too much notes...

  • too "many"

  • haha, yup, sorry...english is not my native

  • Zappa is God

  • these guys suck! shitty tone-too many notes-no decent scratch rythym (oops, so busy learning a million notes, we forgot to come up with a simple vamp)!Disagree? punch up Lenny Breau here on you tube and watch a real master play.

  • dude, how about you suck on my cock. You will never come close to playing as good as them, they are guitar gods. That was an old video. When you can play better, then we will talk.

  • how can you compare jazz and shred ? thats like comparing death metal with dance music.

    dont get me wrong but every body uses the same chords and notes, the only factors that differs are the rhythm, the richness of a chord, progression and feel. that leads me to another question, why is tapping for fags ? its a technique that people use to get the sound that they want its just like anyother tech out there from chicken picking in country to golpe and paddle strokes in flamenco.

  • FUCK YOU!

  • you're retarded

  • Yo, thanks for recommending Lenny Breau! I never knew him till I read your informative, if somewhat offending comment. However, it's strange for me to consider him a representer of simpler music while calling Satch and Vai mindless shredders... I mean, yeah, they play faster, but Lenny also hits a lot of notes while improvising. You should also note that a lot of cool sastch songs have more common chord progressions than Lenny's.

  • OH putain!

  • guys you should also take a look at Vinnie Moore...the is unbelievable in technique and speed. I dont see anything good in zappa..

  • Oh i think they're both great players. You can't say that one of them is better than the other. They're playing different styles and use different techts. They're amazing players on their own way.

  • well like the saying goes, your not a good teacher unless your student is better than yu.

  • i know man, i can tell u that i know both of em

  • it is obvious that vai is more expressive, has more talent.

  • gabrules2003: satriani is doing the rhythm guitar! sometimes you have to play chords, do you remember!

  • heres the ultimate truth, vai is a virtuoso....joe is not.

  • u do realise that joe taught vai how toi play guitar, he was joes star pupil. joe is the master not vai

  • what are u talkin about, vai, satriani, and malmsteen are considered the three virtuosos of zappa

  • agreed! but i don't like malmsteen. He only has one way of playing: fast. no emotional stuff or nuthin only fast shits. Maybe good for some people but not for me. bow before zappa!

  • I prefer Vai's stuff but u can't tell Satch isn't a vistuoso

  • this is so cool:P

  • Yea, Satriani was Steve's teacher

  • Did Satriani teach Vai or was it the other way round? I forget =(

  • satriani taught vai i think

  • aaah, master and student...cool, but yea, ive heard better collaborations of the two...like G3 for Ex..still cool though

  • This is like apples and oranges people. This here actually sounded like shit.

    To say one makes better music is a matter of opinion only. Satch is good for sitting back and making the music have a groove, while his solos may not be as complex, i like his music more.

    Vai is technical. Every fucking song has to have 200,000 notes in it. Sometimes im like damn, do you riff?

  • i dunno i just started gettin into both of them (ive been like stuck in a paul gilbert phase 4 the last year) and after tryin both satch and vai out i gotta go with vai on the technical ability although i havent seen as much of satch's stuff... vai is a musical genius

  • Have you guys ever heard of playing "rhythm guitar"? Probably not. It's where you stop jerking off with tapping and sweep picking, and lay down some chords so that the other guy can solo over you. That's what Satch is doing. Of course, Satch is as technically good as Vai, and can do everything that Vai is doing, but I guess you still have to say that Vai is better.

  • did ya not find that boredom falls in ..because oh steve is soloin again..oh wait something new..no wait no..not att all..Someone is gonna want to kill me but he repeats he repeats he repeats..Jesus man write a fuckin solo i can fall to..I have listeened to all his cds i have ..tryed to understand the legend the people tlk bout..His skills are unchallenged but his music..His music is..Well to be..not music..sounds

  • yall should check out andy timmons and kiko loureiro

  • Joe Satriani is the most overrated guitar player of all time! You can't fuckin open a guitar mag without him being haled as being so and so great, it's insane. Vai is a million times more creative than him.

  • no my friend Slash is the most overrated player of all time! he is in like every total guitar magazine and satch is hardly ever in that since he did his guest lesson series. Your right about vai though

  • its so beautiful, Its not shred

  • i love these two guitarists! they rule satriani has some great albums and melodies---hes obsessed with hendrix--lmao....i bet hes funny to talk to and the same with vai...but then he did play with zappa--vais got to be fun! :D

  • Fine example of two brilliant guitarists riffing away, but not listening to each other.

  • haha no shit

  • they're both great. i for my part would say: satch's style is a little closer to "normal" music and he always sticked to makin that style. vai made many highly experimental things - highly virtuous, but you can listen to them once or twice in a row,but you can't listen to them why you're doing something else.

  • Both of these men are great, each have their own strengths and weaknesses. It is by far too difficult to compare them.

  • This is not shred, all the nots sound perfect, and they all fall into place, shred is when you are like michael angelo batio lol, he is a great guitarist too

  • News flash to the top posters: "Joe Satriani" and "Steve Vai" are not football teams.

    Drop your monolithic instincts and learn not to compare guitarists,or musicians,or artists in any case.

    Either that or go listen to Britney :P

  • Thank you...your post saved me from getting hostile and writing something meaner than H-E-double hockey sticks.

  • comparing the two is a really hard thing to do.

    Satch is a blues man with a warm tone and traditional soul.

    Vai is a vertuoso, playing notes in ways people don't play them cos it's difficult to, anyone who plays the guitar will understand this. He looks not for blues or soul.

    Alot of instrumental music requires patience as no story or lyric is being told. if you think vai and satch are the beall and endall of music, then you would probably find yourself very bored.

  • satch is a virutoso as wel in my opinion , i personally think satch is better seeing as like satriani did teach vai and therefore vai would not be as good without him

  • Who ever said Vai is better then Satch was born with a defect, This video is cool but that tapping shit is just annoying after a while, Vai has SO MUCH SKILL but he kinda wastes it on bullshit like 5 minute tapping solos or stupid ass noises from the bridge or licking the strings?. I have heard alot of his music and I admit I only like about 30%, He needs to make MUSIC, not just crazy sounds! -SATCH is the MAN-

  • I hate this shit. Vai is an amazing guitarist technically but all that shredding is boring as hell.

  • nope- not by a long shot. Nice technical skills... but it's musical masterbation !

  • that wasnt good...

  • how can anyone stand this? this is terrible shit

  • jb u shud go down on dudgewhacker u both are fuckin stupid 90% shite 10% twat? wat the fuck does that make u then, u wudn't be able to play the stuff vai plays if u had 30 yrs to learn and we payed 50 millions if u cud cos ur just a fag who knows NOTHIN bout music

  • Fudgewhacker, you're dam right!!!! 90% shite! 10% twat!

  • LoL yeah right...Vai is a fantastic guitarist theres no doubt about that but 90% of his own music is CRAP..REALLY cheesy nauseating drivel this my friend is a FACT.

  • for the love of god, bad horsie, building the church and the audience is listening are really really good though :P

  • wanerichy (2 weeks ago)

    Vai is leagues and leagues ahead of Satch in skill and much more importantly EMOTION! Vai's songs are great to listen to, Satch is just ok.

    WTF? Satriani is Vai's Teacher! lol!

  • It's like watching two guys in a circle jerk...

  • Vais music speaks for itself..its utter shit

  • Clearly you know nothing about music.

  • hahahaha agreed.

  • Hahahahahhaa wow your lame..if u dont like it say u dont like it..if u say steve vai is shit get rdy to get your ass kicked by multi-million fans who dissagree with you.

  • This is just a very small segmant of like a 20 minute Jam that they did.

    Ive tried for years to decide who I like more between these two but it always proves impossible. I think Satch is better in terms of consistancy though when Vai gets it right he is untouchable, bottom line is these two guys are really in a league of their own.

  • OMG! Joe Satrani is my all time favorite guitar player. He's my idle! I LOVE his music. It's fun stuff. He's the best. Keep rockin! ~Desiree'~

  • omg your funny lol

  • Vai is leagues and leagues ahead of Satch in skill and much more importantly EMOTION! Vai's songs are great to listen to, Satch is just ok.

  • U my friend obviously have no idea what your talking about, i bet u really suck at guitar. "Vai is leagues ahead of satch"? What r u on crack or something, uyou've got to be joking, technicly they r the 2 best guitarists on the world and the exede each other in certain areas, there styles and aproach r quite different for u to be saying who's the better player, youre an idiot dude.

  • nice solo by vai I admit(then again i don't really have much say in how good vai really is since i'm nothing compared to him) but satch does look really bored and there is no comunication

  • Cool video, why does evreyone hate vai? ur all just jealous coz u wish u had anywhere near as much talent as these guys!

  • i love vai he's a really good guitarist one of the best i've seen.

  • haha teacher and student : )

  • I don't see why you would post this part of the jam. The first song was by far the best *shrugs*

    - Tommy

  • 'nuff said

  • what a pair of wankers

  • i agree... especially mr satriani

  • If you guys go to video.google.com you can see the entire video. Just type steve vai or joe satriani...i think the video last for 30 minutes...peace.

  • Absolute rubbish....there no communication between the two at all,its like theyre both in different rooms...satch looks bored out of his tits and vai is just dribbling more of the same old pish hes been dribbling for years....sad really.

  • fuck off

  • Go and count your pubes ya wee cunt

  • i hate vai, altho when he did G3 with the three necked guitar, that was pretty cool, but otherwise. i hate vai. it was satriani's 50th birthday on sturday, happy birthday satch!!

  • vinnie takes the point, they both play REALLY crazy shit

  • I agree with Vinnie

  • they both fucking rule!!!!!!

  • For everyone that just loooooves to throw guitarists in ranks with one another, guitar is not a contest!!

  • satch is a fucking boring shit, vai kick ass!!!

  • Theyre both great but satch kicks vais ass any day

  • your stupid

  • Why is it then that vai was taught by Satch. Anyway piss off and comment about the video and not other peoples comments.

  • Cause Satch is like 10 years older?

  • man, satch gave vai a few lessons when he was starting, its not like he has been teaching him for 20 years... as soon as vai prgressed as far as satch they would just jam.... and i would imagine even their "lessons" together have been grossly misinterpreted and were probably mostly just jams anyways... i prefer vai cause i find him more interesting, satch is still cool, but i'd still take david gilmour over either of them...

  • yep, vai also went to the Berkley College of Music, so it not like Satch was there as well. i like both guitarists, but Vai is my favourite

  • wot a great little sesh. I agree with the guy above, it is nice to see them having a jam like that. Random but worthwhile.

  • I love ´em both!! great guys

  • vai does a killer trill.

  • @stevengerardrox : noone needs to get you into a fuckin shit ....

  • Who is "noone"? Peter Noone? Peace.

  • i kwon wheres the rest of this video...here...http://video.go­ogle.com/videoplay?docid=80329­78671470658127&q=steve+vai&pl=­true...its the most amazing video i ever so!!!!

  • I wish I'd heard the rest of this because this bit out of context doesn't really show off their musical abilities. I am a big Vai and Satch fan. However, this video doesn't do them any justice. Maybe I'll track down the rest of it...

  • I think it's funny just seeing two of the best guitarists in the world playing about like that. The music is good until Vai starts to go off on one with his shitty "fanciness".

  • there both great guitarists

  • they are great! i didn't like the song that much but it doesn't matter

  • Meh. Satch doesn't even get a solo, but Vai's is killer.

  • i swear vai was one crack cuz he looked like as if he took some of it. satriani looked composed and cool. vai tries hard.... i know he got amazing talent...but needs at least one song where he can get me into him.

  • you guys are just looking for ways to fight arent ya, how lame, i put this video up so ppl could check out satch and vai not so we could all yell at each other

  • I hear ya. We are all guilty of bad attitudes at times. at least there was no CAPS LOCKS! Great post, thanks. Peace!

  • dear jesus

  • do not take gods name in vain

  • Did he? That is a thrown around term and statement that has little thought, in my opinion. I feel , if used properly, God's name in any form is best out there than in the closet, so to speak. Peace. And God Bless.

  • ah shut up you brainwashed sheep

  • go fuck yourself god

  • doesnt sound as nice as theire fully composed songs....lol....

  • the 2 best guitarists in the world (in my opinion) - in 1 room - jamming together! awesome!!!

  • Very, Very True Statement Right There Boys And Girls.

    x

  • ZAKK WYLDE IS THE BEST, his as good technically and his writes amazing songs.

  • Ooooooooookkk

    :)

    Um...

    Bye Now :)

  • what's that ment to mean?!

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