William Parker

[alform]

Please, tell us what you think is good-ass, damngringo! Liberache?

Or are a yellow-belly?

[pjustusxi]

Unless you were being facetious, "bad-ass" is a compliment.

[alform]

Most of us are foreigners here and bad-ass really doesnt sounds like a compliment for many of us. Will test it before I accept.

[KingCrimson776]

@alform It really is a compliment. In America the term "bad" when used in a certain context means "cool", and "bad-ass" is an extension of that.

[damngringo]

Bad-ass

[Sminty1]

I am going to admit I don't 'get' jazz but I like to keep an open mind. But listening to this sounded like 3 guys each playing their own thing that wasn't even nearly related to the other. In fact it reminded me of an orchestra warming up for the main number. I don't doubt the skills of the guys but that was nither relaxing nor entertaining which is what I expect from my music.

[thomasrehling]

If you expect something from music, you don't have a open mind.

[Sminty1]

That reply doesn't make sense and that's what I expect from a reply. Expecting things does not imply a closed mind. Of course I expect things from music. As a child I used to plonk away at a piano not knowing what I was doing and wondered why my random clanging didn't sound like music and what the difference really was. Its hard to define but what I heard here was closer to the noise I used to make as a child than the refined notes coming from an accomplished artist.

[Sminty1]

I think I should add that I don't wish to disparage the artists in any way and yes the problem could very well be in my perceptions. They are clearly talented in what they do. I make the comments in the hope that someone would somehow shed light on what I might be missing instead of simply accusing me of having a closed mind.

[gibo87c]

I appreciate that you express your opinion and totally understand it. It happens in jazz that there is some confusion and the music that comes out is not too good, also because of improvisation.

And there is also the fact that some artists in the jazz field can be better appreciated if you see them live, because of the energy that they communicate and because of the fact that you are sharing the music at the moment with them

[joznick1]

music IS noise

[lebastar]

Funny, that´s exactly what jpeople used to say about Van Gogh and Picasso and Miró and Pollock and Rothko when they were struggling young artists....this was also the case with jazz musicians in the early 20th century...

[phakajuju]

This is not jazz dear friend. Its a genre that was created in the 60's and its called "free music". A lot of people dont understand it but it will make sense once you know its history. some artists that play "free music" are Henry grimes, william Parker and you can just look for more on "related videos". check those artists out on you tube and try look up the history of its formation on google.

[benmillerintx]

uh . . . there's an advantage to dropping the term jazz. But you're not going to convince me that these musicians were not heavily influenced by the Jazz continuum. If you're suggesting that in the 60's the music became free whereas it was not free before, I have to disagree. I think it was always about freedom and was always rapidly evolving. I think it just took a long time to really move past bebop and Parker and once the musicians did, it was a huge explosion.

[thomasloyens]

this is not even extremely free, so wait 'till you hear Peter Brötzmann or Evan Parker! THEN you can wonder if they're not all playing separately, which they aren't of course (could be in some cases) but still, you should try to appreciate more free jazz.. It' worth it!

[thomasloyens]

(to sminty1)

[MattMartinHare]

Oh. My. God. Wow.

Incredible. Simply incredible.

Parker and Drake are, in my opinion, the rhythm section working in jazz today.