@josephdupont we honestly need to find the understanding behind inner workings of the transition from regular steam to super heated in order to address any future build/one-offs of this type of technology. steam superheated w/catalyst being iron is plausible. yes you are correct. ceramics are the future, that is for sure. ceramic engines is NASA spec technology. why not have it in your car? questions to be answered.
We are going to be testing this theory on a Joe Pipe very soon.
What we hope to accomplish is starting the Pipe with a Hydrocarbon Fuel and then heating a coil to super heat steam. Take the Steam (Now Hydroxy) and feed it to the Burn. We feel it maybe able to sustain a level 3 to maybe Level 5 Endothermic burn with little to no Hydrocarbon fuel to assist the burn! Wish us luck. If it works, the possibilities are endless Ron
Im thinking a wood stove with refractory liners that allow 1000 degree plus temperatures would also be creating this steam state which is why the burners of wood furnaces tend to corrode out quickly and require replacement or extreme high temp materials.
But If a rocket draft stove with steam injection and high temp materials were designed, intentionally, so that the hydrogen fire were available for clean burning high heat output...wow, very powerful heater. Totally clean...
Im seeing microwave heatind causing water to superheat and explode or enter plasma states in several videos. And yes, steam reformation and the syngas coal and garbage plasma incinerators use this high temp water state, but this explanation details the water physics the best Ive seen. Also interesting is the Wood-gas generator process which benefits from water injection where the carbon absorbs the Oxygen leaving the hydrogen to be used as engine fuel or heating gas...
Hey, I found the steam generators at the beginning of the video - manufactured by MHI, Inc. in Cincinnati Ohio...
They state that the steam created is superheated without the use of a pressure chamber - sounds pretty cool, compact and probably a lot safer due to no pressure vessel (800°C Steam achievable!) Nice.
what are those devices at the beginning of your video? Are these small pressure vessels or something like that - steam injectors or something of that nature?
oh ok... thank you. I like your videos. I have been looking for something to make superheated steam but didn't have any luck with finding things that a 'common' person could use... these look simple to use - do you make these or know where I can find them?
This is exactly what happens in Paul Pantones Geet system. Think about it,steam generated in the bubbler passes into the reaction chamber. The reaction chamber is heated by the exhaust as the steam becomes super heated,it reacts with the steel and metal bar in the inner reactor causing it to oxidise. The steam now stripped of oxygen becomes Hydrogen gas which boosts the volatility of the low quality fuel in the bubbler,that is how he could run the engine on crude,sump oil or just about anything.
Whoa, Chris you are tha man. I remeber reading something about using Iron or a metal medium in some generation or refining process that used copious amounts of steam. I had wondered often how that rod in the Geet was so important. I never realized or had heard it mentioned that it was a "wear" item.
If you study the GEET system you will see that the rod is not fixed, it vibrates around in the reaction chamber. This causes it to ware off the oxidised layers and release continous fine particles of iron to oxidise as well as exposeing fresh metal on the rod and the inner metal chamber for oxidisation.
The process you refer to is steam reformation of hydrocarbons. It is used in the petrolium industry to seperate lighter and heavier components in crude and to boost the hydrogen content to increase flamability
Thanks for the heads up ChrisPCrunchy. This information in combination should give people a greater understanding of what we are talking about. You hit the nail right on the head.
I wonder if it is possible to dissasocitate Oxygen from Surcharged steam? I am thinking of a process similar to the way HHO is produced, but passing the steam through a mesh of positive and negitve charges. The molecules must be very excited, it seems the Hydrogen would be easier to seperate at that temperature. Any ideas?
To dissassociate Oxygen from superheated steam is as simple as running it through a substance that readily oxidises (rusts or corrodes). Iron particles are perfect for this or carbon or dozens of other materials. In this process the oxidising agent would be consumable and need regular replacement.
Dissassociation of water at high temp is always easier, more efficient, but the problem is using electrolysis at high temp creates a plasma reaction that reignites the HHO and returns it to steam. If however the oxygen is given something else to react with we can recover the Hydrogen.
as i say meyer holds a diesel injector in his hand in the car park interview video and shows a tee coming into the injector,that must be the super heated steam inlet then he has a type of plug lead on the top,i presume this is the plasma ignition to further enhance with stainless/nology leads to carry 100amps and massive voltage without perishing..a diesel injector has to stand massive bar pressure so looks the ideal steamer
Yes the injector directly tied to the cylinder is what we are after. Rather than today's designs of it being coupled with the intake manifold. From what I understand, the typical gas engine has a PSI in the cylinder of 125-150 pounds per square inch in regards to the compression stroke. Unsure of diesel.
It gets more and more interesting as we understand the process of everything.
Please keep comments pertaining to the subject at hand. Other comments will be rejected - sorry.
Regarding Super Heated Steam. We must combine our efforts otherwise our end goal may be out of reach. Hope everyone enjoys my videos. This is now Public Domain, and can be replicated modified or otherwise used with fair rights use.
Please be more than welcome to replicate any of my designs for personal use. Hope to see more people joining the energy movement.
may be the dune buggy being a vw beetle aluminium engine ,would that be why meyer may have used it to disperse the heat from super heated steam.also what is the best way to get this super heated steam,pantone style ?
The super-heated-steam is rather interesting. This could lean the "S. Meyer" design to a super-heated-steam injector of some sort. It has many variables that could come into play.
Think about it. Water boiling higher than its boiling point. Stable, from what I understand, in the container it is able to gain pressure. 500bar, lets say. Now, it will eject at a thrust characteristic that of a jet, when the container is opened. With it hitting the atmospheric pressure it has this reaction.
This is the highest state we can get water-vapor into. Other than completely splitting it apart with electrolysis. Our hopes are that this combination with HHO could be the underlying reaction we are looking for.
The gas might have to be perfectly balanced. Could be exactly needed to push the threshold of water interaction over the edge.
I've been following HHO experimentation, and wondered if steam (superheated or not) could be forced by self generated pressure through fine metal screen mesh electrodes for "complete" (no water blow by) HHO conversion.
Other HHO proponents seem to think heat transfer from the exhaust is a critical component (Pantone for sure).
Anyway, keep up the great work!
I'm trying some stuff out on some cells I constructed and posting vids to let others know they can do it too!
Are we saying that: If we use very high temperature steam in our engines, it will destroy the engine? For instance, if we inject steam into the air intake, which goes into the combustion chamber (which is 1500 degrees), that this could be detrimental to the life of our engine? Or, at least detrimental to our steel exhaust system. Thanks for the information and nice research!
We must learn to weld stainless steel and get our hands on a distributor of the metal close to any of our locations. This would benefit the production of any header or exhaust system that would need to be build from scratch our modified.
Have some more videos like this to conclude further evidence of use of high-pressure steam for propulsion methods. With this shrunk down to a more practical size why couldn't we use this technology in our vehicles.
sirHOAX--very nice observation of super heated steam. If you are on the same page I am, which it appears you are. we now combine our HHO tech to super heated steam tech. Wa la.. power plant in your back yard..
why not use ceramics and convert iron to h2 for a car?
josephdupont 11 months ago
@josephdupont we honestly need to find the understanding behind inner workings of the transition from regular steam to super heated in order to address any future build/one-offs of this type of technology. steam superheated w/catalyst being iron is plausible. yes you are correct. ceramics are the future, that is for sure. ceramic engines is NASA spec technology. why not have it in your car? questions to be answered.
sirHOAX 11 months ago
well said... nice VOICE !!!
vox1philippines 1 year ago
ha, nice
kdkinen 3 years ago
What text to speech engine are you using?
nattsurfaren 3 years ago 3
We are going to be testing this theory on a Joe Pipe very soon.
What we hope to accomplish is starting the Pipe with a Hydrocarbon Fuel and then heating a coil to super heat steam. Take the Steam (Now Hydroxy) and feed it to the Burn. We feel it maybe able to sustain a level 3 to maybe Level 5 Endothermic burn with little to no Hydrocarbon fuel to assist the burn! Wish us luck. If it works, the possibilities are endless Ron
monkeyron 3 years ago
Im thinking a wood stove with refractory liners that allow 1000 degree plus temperatures would also be creating this steam state which is why the burners of wood furnaces tend to corrode out quickly and require replacement or extreme high temp materials.
But If a rocket draft stove with steam injection and high temp materials were designed, intentionally, so that the hydrogen fire were available for clean burning high heat output...wow, very powerful heater. Totally clean...
douglundy 3 years ago
Im seeing microwave heatind causing water to superheat and explode or enter plasma states in several videos. And yes, steam reformation and the syngas coal and garbage plasma incinerators use this high temp water state, but this explanation details the water physics the best Ive seen. Also interesting is the Wood-gas generator process which benefits from water injection where the carbon absorbs the Oxygen leaving the hydrogen to be used as engine fuel or heating gas...
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douglundy 3 years ago
Hey, I found the steam generators at the beginning of the video - manufactured by MHI, Inc. in Cincinnati Ohio...
They state that the steam created is superheated without the use of a pressure chamber - sounds pretty cool, compact and probably a lot safer due to no pressure vessel (800°C Steam achievable!) Nice.
bluethunder33 3 years ago
ceramic turbine..... um yah.....
xerochaos187 3 years ago
what are those devices at the beginning of your video? Are these small pressure vessels or something like that - steam injectors or something of that nature?
bluethunder33 3 years ago
Devices for creating super-heated-steam.
sirHOAX 3 years ago
oh ok... thank you. I like your videos. I have been looking for something to make superheated steam but didn't have any luck with finding things that a 'common' person could use... these look simple to use - do you make these or know where I can find them?
bluethunder33 3 years ago
that voice is creepy. what does the reaction with iron and steam produce?
theartfulbadger1 3 years ago
Hydrogen.
sirHOAX 3 years ago
fantastic sirhoax can we say water gas???
beaumec242 3 years ago
Yes Water Gas is correct. :=)
sirHOAX 3 years ago
This is exactly what happens in Paul Pantones Geet system. Think about it,steam generated in the bubbler passes into the reaction chamber. The reaction chamber is heated by the exhaust as the steam becomes super heated,it reacts with the steel and metal bar in the inner reactor causing it to oxidise. The steam now stripped of oxygen becomes Hydrogen gas which boosts the volatility of the low quality fuel in the bubbler,that is how he could run the engine on crude,sump oil or just about anything.
ChrisPCrunchy 3 years ago 5
Whoa, Chris you are tha man. I remeber reading something about using Iron or a metal medium in some generation or refining process that used copious amounts of steam. I had wondered often how that rod in the Geet was so important. I never realized or had heard it mentioned that it was a "wear" item.
ewmegoolies 3 years ago 2
If you study the GEET system you will see that the rod is not fixed, it vibrates around in the reaction chamber. This causes it to ware off the oxidised layers and release continous fine particles of iron to oxidise as well as exposeing fresh metal on the rod and the inner metal chamber for oxidisation.
ChrisPCrunchy 3 years ago 2
The process you refer to is steam reformation of hydrocarbons. It is used in the petrolium industry to seperate lighter and heavier components in crude and to boost the hydrogen content to increase flamability
ChrisPCrunchy 3 years ago 2
Thanks for the heads up ChrisPCrunchy. This information in combination should give people a greater understanding of what we are talking about. You hit the nail right on the head.
"steam reformation" aka: Steam Cracker
We are well on our way..
--sirHOAX-- :=)
sirHOAX 3 years ago
I wonder if it is possible to dissasocitate Oxygen from Surcharged steam? I am thinking of a process similar to the way HHO is produced, but passing the steam through a mesh of positive and negitve charges. The molecules must be very excited, it seems the Hydrogen would be easier to seperate at that temperature. Any ideas?
ewmegoolies 3 years ago
To dissassociate Oxygen from superheated steam is as simple as running it through a substance that readily oxidises (rusts or corrodes). Iron particles are perfect for this or carbon or dozens of other materials. In this process the oxidising agent would be consumable and need regular replacement.
ChrisPCrunchy 3 years ago
Dissassociation of water at high temp is always easier, more efficient, but the problem is using electrolysis at high temp creates a plasma reaction that reignites the HHO and returns it to steam. If however the oxygen is given something else to react with we can recover the Hydrogen.
ChrisPCrunchy 3 years ago
as i say meyer holds a diesel injector in his hand in the car park interview video and shows a tee coming into the injector,that must be the super heated steam inlet then he has a type of plug lead on the top,i presume this is the plasma ignition to further enhance with stainless/nology leads to carry 100amps and massive voltage without perishing..a diesel injector has to stand massive bar pressure so looks the ideal steamer
honda4004 3 years ago
Yes the injector directly tied to the cylinder is what we are after. Rather than today's designs of it being coupled with the intake manifold. From what I understand, the typical gas engine has a PSI in the cylinder of 125-150 pounds per square inch in regards to the compression stroke. Unsure of diesel.
It gets more and more interesting as we understand the process of everything.
Look forward to more understanding. sirHOAX:)
sirHOAX 3 years ago
Please keep comments pertaining to the subject at hand. Other comments will be rejected - sorry.
Regarding Super Heated Steam. We must combine our efforts otherwise our end goal may be out of reach. Hope everyone enjoys my videos. This is now Public Domain, and can be replicated modified or otherwise used with fair rights use.
Please be more than welcome to replicate any of my designs for personal use. Hope to see more people joining the energy movement.
The more people the better. sirHOAX
sirHOAX 3 years ago
may be the dune buggy being a vw beetle aluminium engine ,would that be why meyer may have used it to disperse the heat from super heated steam.also what is the best way to get this super heated steam,pantone style ?
honda4004 3 years ago
The super-heated-steam is rather interesting. This could lean the "S. Meyer" design to a super-heated-steam injector of some sort. It has many variables that could come into play.
Think about it. Water boiling higher than its boiling point. Stable, from what I understand, in the container it is able to gain pressure. 500bar, lets say. Now, it will eject at a thrust characteristic that of a jet, when the container is opened. With it hitting the atmospheric pressure it has this reaction.
sirHOAX
sirHOAX 3 years ago
This is the highest state we can get water-vapor into. Other than completely splitting it apart with electrolysis. Our hopes are that this combination with HHO could be the underlying reaction we are looking for.
The gas might have to be perfectly balanced. Could be exactly needed to push the threshold of water interaction over the edge.
--sirHOAX--
sirHOAX 3 years ago
Add a solar furnace and wind turbine and be realy free.
crazzieg 3 years ago
Fine work!
I've been following HHO experimentation, and wondered if steam (superheated or not) could be forced by self generated pressure through fine metal screen mesh electrodes for "complete" (no water blow by) HHO conversion.
Other HHO proponents seem to think heat transfer from the exhaust is a critical component (Pantone for sure).
Anyway, keep up the great work!
I'm trying some stuff out on some cells I constructed and posting vids to let others know they can do it too!
exxcomm0n 3 years ago
Are we saying that: If we use very high temperature steam in our engines, it will destroy the engine? For instance, if we inject steam into the air intake, which goes into the combustion chamber (which is 1500 degrees), that this could be detrimental to the life of our engine? Or, at least detrimental to our steel exhaust system. Thanks for the information and nice research!
OriginalUncleNemo 3 years ago
damn that could be a problem! when water reaches a certain temp, it chemically reacts with iron forming hydrogen and iron oxide.
tvryb 3 years ago
We must learn to weld stainless steel and get our hands on a distributor of the metal close to any of our locations. This would benefit the production of any header or exhaust system that would need to be build from scratch our modified.
Have some more videos like this to conclude further evidence of use of high-pressure steam for propulsion methods. With this shrunk down to a more practical size why couldn't we use this technology in our vehicles.
Regards, --sirHOAX-- :=)
sirHOAX 3 years ago
Nicely done !
I remember when microwave oven were first sold to the public. Those older ovens would also super-heat water to over 600 degrees .
Snapshotok2000 3 years ago
sirHOAX--very nice observation of super heated steam. If you are on the same page I am, which it appears you are. we now combine our HHO tech to super heated steam tech. Wa la.. power plant in your back yard..
risingsunHHO 3 years ago
very cool new stuff where did you get your info from
waynedavisband 3 years ago
This information is already public domain.
sirHOAX 3 years ago