Detroit diesel 2 strokes are the most relibale longest lasting engines damn democrats and tree huggers killed them thats why they no longer make these nice things
Whoa no The Brigadier is a totally different truck from the General! The Cabs hoods and interiors all completely different! The General was considered the over the road class 8 while the Brigadier was a local class 8 Truck! The cab was alot roomier in the General then the Brigadier! Chevy Made the trucks with the names Chevy Bison and Chevy Bruin!
Chevy's version of the almighty General was called the Bison, but like Chevy's other heavy-duty rigs, it was not as common as the GMC version. The only reason I can think of is because Chevy was more of a car & light truck maker, whereas GMC was more of a truck maker.
We went to the Dakotas a lot (Minot & Ellsworth) in those days, and the wind always killed those old 2-strokes. I don't remember ever getting more than about 6.2/6.4, and usually less. Might have been a little better with light loads to California.
well thats not too bad. better then the 8v92's. if i had a choice, i would make a 6v92 put out 400 hp, and use that instead of the 8v92. you will get better fuel mileage. Witch making 400 hp isnt too hard on a 6v92.
@6V92TA Where would I get injectors for a 6v92T. We have a 6v92t silver in a gmc general and I want to get more out of it. Plus blow a little more smoke. Ive looked around but can't seem to find any.
@nachos1990 Firstly , check with your local Detroit Diesel dealer or any place that repairs trucks. 6V92s are used in some large motor yathcs and they're normally tuned to near 500hp. Check wit some Marine diesel dealers for injector parts for the 6V92. Expect your fuel economy to go all to hell though lol.
@Zekais Generals and brigadiers are completely different trucks, they don't even have the same cabs or hood setup. Generals and Bisons are the same truck only GM and Chevy.
@desert122 Generals had better suspension they came with air ride. They also had room for bigger engines like an 8v92 or big cam 400 because the nose was longer than the bridgadier
@desert122 General is a regualar semi tractor with heavy steering box and a 12000 pound front axle. Brigadier is more like a c-60 grain truck with a lighter front end and small steering box.
i worked at "central foundry", Defiance,Ohio, the birthplace of many of detroit's 2cycle diesels! we poured blocks and heads from 1948 till penske's moving them out in 1994. GM quit pouring detroit diesel castings, which were the bread and butter casting for many years. if you look you'll see cfd and a ladle pouring wheel with the cast date markings. you have a piece of engineering history and i hope you enjoy hearing it as much as i do
Well, I'm from Holland and we don't hear that "Detroit Sound" too much over here. But when I pass a truck propelled by a Detroit two-stoke, I open the window to hear that sound. SUPER!
(tell a secret: I visit the USA to listen to the greyhoudcoaches ;-))
You are closer than you think. Replacement Detroit 2-stroke pistons and skirts (and Series 60s before 1998) are now cast at Gieterij Doesburg! Look for the "GD" casting logo.
No, I'm from Pennsylvania but now work at DDC (actually now Daimler Trucks). We have quiet, clean, computer-controlled engines now, but I wish I could go back to about 1960 and work on a lab full of those mean old two-strokes.
By the way, I loved Holland when I visited--hope to go back.
Visit my lumberyard, it's in Arnhem, a vew miles from Doesburg :-)
(we have lots of Penn-state hardwoods!!)
I visited Pennsylvania a vew times, it's a litte bit larger than holland (about 500 time :-))
I have another hobby by the way: I collect forklifts. My brother and I LOVE those old Tomotors from Cleveland Ohio. They are out of business for a long time but the machines are very sturdy and keep on operating!
Do you know why the militairy keeps using 2 stoke engines? easy for parts?
I didn't realize that GM's Central Foundry had been based in Defiance (I'm a whippersnapper). The "central foundry" that I knew was in Saginaw, MI. They were pouring Detroit cast-iron pistons until sometime in 2001, but they had wanted our small volumes out of there, so we moved them to Holland.
Believe it or not, but new 2-cycle engines are still being made today at DDC for the army. The business was actually sold to MTU, who resides on-site and builds 2-cycles on their own assembly line.
I think the military likes having engines that they know well and have lots of parts for. They also like the light weight of the 2-stroke for some of the smaller mobile equipment.
Next time in PA, visit Black Moshannon state park. You will be able to stand in a forest of nothing but huge black-cherry trees. As a lumberman, you might want to bring a defibrillator. Regarding forklifts--I collect minerals as well as rocks (plain old rocks--numbered and photoed.). I think you've got me beat.
to dave: gm's central foundry div. was headquartered in saginaw, with foundries in danville,ill.(closed up in late 1990's), bedford,in.(aluminum), massina, new york(aluminum),defiance,ohio(gray iron and nodular), chevrolet flint,(closed early 1980's, work split between saginaw and defiance), tonawenda,n.y.(work transferred to defiance). buick, pontiac had all their own foundries until the late 1970's. they all poured a large volume of castings,not only for gm, but ford, chrysler, and many more.
That must be EMD, which I think is still part of GM (as Detroit Diesel once was). The biggest 2-stroke that Detroit Diesel made was the 149, which had 149 cubes per cylinder. Either EMD took DD's designs and scaled them up, or DD took EMDs designs and scaled them down, I forget which.
as a matter of fact, some of the Army's new 8X8 airport crash trucks have 8V92s in them. Detroit 2 strokers are still being built but mainly for off-road applications, generators, boats and the US Military.
True. I think they built the ones we had out of spare parts left over along the assembly line. Heh heh. Good old truck, and the last two stroke I ever lived with, as it were.
u down in my country lol
19mg94 1 year ago
Detroit diesel 2 strokes are the most relibale longest lasting engines damn democrats and tree huggers killed them thats why they no longer make these nice things
DRNEGOLICIS 1 year ago
Whoa no The Brigadier is a totally different truck from the General! The Cabs hoods and interiors all completely different! The General was considered the over the road class 8 while the Brigadier was a local class 8 Truck! The cab was alot roomier in the General then the Brigadier! Chevy Made the trucks with the names Chevy Bison and Chevy Bruin!
stillatrucken 1 year ago
Sounds like a city bus driving
Hotrodx199 2 years ago
Awesome video, a GMC General and Detriot, hard to beat.
dingus8888 2 years ago 2
good ole hydromechanical engine. When she runs away it's fun!
WireGreasingHero 2 years ago
woohoo i just bought a 1979 gmc general with straight 6 detroit in it.
yourmom0132 2 years ago
gotta love the scream of an ole Detroit.
6V92TA 3 years ago 5
Whats that have for a motor and transmission?
xdodgeboyx 3 years ago
a 6v92 detroit, and a 9 speed.
caddy59 3 years ago
Chevy's version of the almighty General was called the Bison, but like Chevy's other heavy-duty rigs, it was not as common as the GMC version. The only reason I can think of is because Chevy was more of a car & light truck maker, whereas GMC was more of a truck maker.
PolskaRezystans 3 years ago
What ever we think doesnt matter.The real reason is always what protects the share holders.
pwarren1010 3 years ago
you know how many miles a gallon u were getting?
Hotrodx199 3 years ago
We went to the Dakotas a lot (Minot & Ellsworth) in those days, and the wind always killed those old 2-strokes. I don't remember ever getting more than about 6.2/6.4, and usually less. Might have been a little better with light loads to California.
Zekais 3 years ago
well thats not too bad. better then the 8v92's. if i had a choice, i would make a 6v92 put out 400 hp, and use that instead of the 8v92. you will get better fuel mileage. Witch making 400 hp isnt too hard on a 6v92.
Hotrodx199 3 years ago
you can get a 6V92 pass 400hp wit the right injectors, DDEC system set up and bring up the turbo boost.
6V92TA 2 years ago
@6V92TA Where would I get injectors for a 6v92T. We have a 6v92t silver in a gmc general and I want to get more out of it. Plus blow a little more smoke. Ive looked around but can't seem to find any.
nachos1990 1 year ago
@nachos1990 Firstly , check with your local Detroit Diesel dealer or any place that repairs trucks. 6V92s are used in some large motor yathcs and they're normally tuned to near 500hp. Check wit some Marine diesel dealers for injector parts for the 6V92. Expect your fuel economy to go all to hell though lol.
6V92TA 1 year ago
how much power and torque does that kick out? whats the rpms also?
Hotrodx199 4 years ago
Those tractors were rated @ 350hp @ 2100rpm. Don't remember the torque. Not much, since it was a 2-stroke Jimmy. Heh heh.
Zekais 4 years ago
Whats the difference if any in the Gmc Brigadiers & the Gmc Generals
desert122 4 years ago
Just trim details as far as I ever saw. 'Bout the same truck...just like between a Chevy & GMC p/u.
Zekais 4 years ago
@Zekais Generals and brigadiers are completely different trucks, they don't even have the same cabs or hood setup. Generals and Bisons are the same truck only GM and Chevy.
ledfoot73 1 year ago
@desert122 Generals had better suspension they came with air ride. They also had room for bigger engines like an 8v92 or big cam 400 because the nose was longer than the bridgadier
nachos1990 1 year ago
@desert122 a brig had a very short and wide hood a general had a long and narrow hood more like a pete or kenworth.
324590 3 months ago
@desert122 General is a regualar semi tractor with heavy steering box and a 12000 pound front axle. Brigadier is more like a c-60 grain truck with a lighter front end and small steering box.
michael25x 1 week ago
This General is nice and quiet in the cab. must be pretty soundproof.
gajda1984 4 years ago
i worked at "central foundry", Defiance,Ohio, the birthplace of many of detroit's 2cycle diesels! we poured blocks and heads from 1948 till penske's moving them out in 1994. GM quit pouring detroit diesel castings, which were the bread and butter casting for many years. if you look you'll see cfd and a ladle pouring wheel with the cast date markings. you have a piece of engineering history and i hope you enjoy hearing it as much as i do
oilcan821 4 years ago
Well, I'm from Holland and we don't hear that "Detroit Sound" too much over here. But when I pass a truck propelled by a Detroit two-stoke, I open the window to hear that sound. SUPER!
(tell a secret: I visit the USA to listen to the greyhoudcoaches ;-))
geertvandijk1 4 years ago
You are closer than you think. Replacement Detroit 2-stroke pistons and skirts (and Series 60s before 1998) are now cast at Gieterij Doesburg! Look for the "GD" casting logo.
dave65535 4 years ago
NO SH***
My wife lived one block away from gieterij Doesburg!! I know it very well!
Geert
Are you from Holland?
geertvandijk1 4 years ago
No, I'm from Pennsylvania but now work at DDC (actually now Daimler Trucks). We have quiet, clean, computer-controlled engines now, but I wish I could go back to about 1960 and work on a lab full of those mean old two-strokes.
By the way, I loved Holland when I visited--hope to go back.
dave65535 4 years ago
Visit my lumberyard, it's in Arnhem, a vew miles from Doesburg :-)
(we have lots of Penn-state hardwoods!!)
I visited Pennsylvania a vew times, it's a litte bit larger than holland (about 500 time :-))
I have another hobby by the way: I collect forklifts. My brother and I LOVE those old Tomotors from Cleveland Ohio. They are out of business for a long time but the machines are very sturdy and keep on operating!
Do you know why the militairy keeps using 2 stoke engines? easy for parts?
geertvandijk1 4 years ago
I didn't realize that GM's Central Foundry had been based in Defiance (I'm a whippersnapper). The "central foundry" that I knew was in Saginaw, MI. They were pouring Detroit cast-iron pistons until sometime in 2001, but they had wanted our small volumes out of there, so we moved them to Holland.
Believe it or not, but new 2-cycle engines are still being made today at DDC for the army. The business was actually sold to MTU, who resides on-site and builds 2-cycles on their own assembly line.
dave65535 4 years ago
I think the military likes having engines that they know well and have lots of parts for. They also like the light weight of the 2-stroke for some of the smaller mobile equipment.
Next time in PA, visit Black Moshannon state park. You will be able to stand in a forest of nothing but huge black-cherry trees. As a lumberman, you might want to bring a defibrillator. Regarding forklifts--I collect minerals as well as rocks (plain old rocks--numbered and photoed.). I think you've got me beat.
dave65535 4 years ago
to dave: gm's central foundry div. was headquartered in saginaw, with foundries in danville,ill.(closed up in late 1990's), bedford,in.(aluminum), massina, new york(aluminum),defiance,ohio(gray iron and nodular), chevrolet flint,(closed early 1980's, work split between saginaw and defiance), tonawenda,n.y.(work transferred to defiance). buick, pontiac had all their own foundries until the late 1970's. they all poured a large volume of castings,not only for gm, but ford, chrysler, and many more.
oilcan821 4 years ago
Detroit diesel still builds 2 stroke locomotive engines today too. with like 702 cubic inches per cylinder, as far as i've been told.
Hotrodx199 3 years ago
That must be EMD, which I think is still part of GM (as Detroit Diesel once was). The biggest 2-stroke that Detroit Diesel made was the 149, which had 149 cubes per cylinder. Either EMD took DD's designs and scaled them up, or DD took EMDs designs and scaled them down, I forget which.
dave65535 3 years ago
I think the 2-cycle detroits are still being for marine use as well, and other off-road uses.
andyofvermont 3 years ago
Maybe even manufactured out of the US. I'm pretty sure the army uses them still.
Righty736 3 years ago
as a matter of fact, some of the Army's new 8X8 airport crash trucks have 8V92s in them. Detroit 2 strokers are still being built but mainly for off-road applications, generators, boats and the US Military.
6V92TA 3 years ago
I love those detroits! I run a 1980 brig. w/6-71 under a dump and log loader.
rednek234 4 years ago
blackmetal you can get it at 18 lol
it does sound like the old 80's greyhounds
some are still 2 strokers, but they dont make them anymore
cool video
is this a 9 spd?
s172mch 4 years ago
Yeah, it was a 9spd.
Zekais 4 years ago
thats cool go up that way about ever other day going to ky to get cole
clm64 4 years ago
were at in tn that my neck off the wood next to 75 40 slpit
clm64 4 years ago
In the Jellico area that day, if I remember correctly.
Zekais 4 years ago
She sounds great with the "whistle box" on top of the 'ol Detroit!! I will always love the Generals!
Thanks
FarmallDoctor 4 years ago
HOW about some shots of the outside of this big rig? Anything GMC we want to see.
12v71 4 years ago
I will check all my old stuff and see if I have any. Doubtful, but...
Zekais 4 years ago
as soon as im 19 im getting a class 1 licence and becoming a trucker
xXBlackMetal666Xx 4 years ago
sound like a greyhound bus
yawotton 4 years ago
Well, Greyhound buses don't have two-stroke engines anymore.
douro20 4 years ago
I love GMC General/Chevrolet Bison with Detroit engine!!
1969Rotax 4 years ago
Yours being an '88, this was among the last ever to be made.
ClassicTVFan82 4 years ago
True. I think they built the ones we had out of spare parts left over along the assembly line. Heh heh. Good old truck, and the last two stroke I ever lived with, as it were.
Zekais 4 years ago
AW, YEAAAHHHHH, I LOVE THAT 6V92TA SOUND!!!!! Excellent video!
baul104 4 years ago
k-mon! Thats a soon to be gone sound! More vids and sounds!! Ya gotta!
mdebass 4 years ago
i concur!!!!!!!!!
gajda1984 4 years ago
very nice detroit 2 stroke sound! yet it sounds really well insulated. are you going to get the 2nd video up soon?
gajda1984 4 years ago
Don't have any plans to put any more up, but who knows?
Zekais 4 years ago