@caridell That is not a factory patch. It is one I did myself. Basically it is a custom hard body model with one of the pick-ups being a piezo. I like the bit of sparkle that adds. The rest of the chain is pretty straight forward, I think ending in the Roland clean amp model.
I am really impressed with your demostation. I own a Vg88, but I cannot achieve the quality of your patches. I found some patches on web but yours are better. p.e. acoustic and 5th on 12-strings guitar. Can you share with us a few patches? Thanks for your time
@xe1lg Believe it or not, both of the patches you mention are factory presets (although I tweaked the amount of reverb on the piezo acoustic). Differences in your system may be in pick-up type, string gauge, or amp set up. I always run mine either direct or through full spectrum monitors (PA, keyboard amp, etc) using the monitor output setting (rather than guitar amp).
what kind of amp are you running the VG through? I have found it sounds great through the Roland KC amps but not your typical guitar rig (like a marshall tube head).
@hambone8080 I am actually running this directly into the sound card for this video. For playing live, the VGs are really designed to be played through full spectrum monitors. Like you, I have gotten pretty poor results running through a guitar amp (especially with the non-electric guitar sounds). The best results I have had live are going right into a PA system. This sounds killer.
Hi, enjoyed your vid. Do you think the guitar as we know it is dead? I mean, is there know need for a real organic sound or lots of guitars in ones collection anymore? I'm mainly a keyboard player and have seen the shrinking of the piano industry over recent years. Do you think the same will happen to guitars with vertual modeling? If not why? Sorry about the amount of questions but I'm very interested in this issue. Technology 's great, but it would be a shame to see the guitar get hit to.
As much as it pains me, I think the digital stuff will in fact take over. Electronic Musician recently did a blind test with some well regarded producers (serious golden eared folks) comparing some classic amps with their software modeled counterparts. In every case, at least one was fooled and in several cases a majority were.
Digital stuff will only get better and with the cost and ease of use it quickly becomes a no-brainer.
Hi, thank you for the very honest answer. Yes I think you're right. It's a shame that's progress I guess. So I guess I'll be getting a vg99. The first time I heard it I was stunned. I suppose drummers will be next. The roland v-drums are unbelievable, and like you're saying they would just get better and better. Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions. All the best from Paul.
No problem. If you are going for live performance, the VG is definitely the way to go. If you are recording, I might suggest getting a modeling guitar (such as the Fender VG strat and use amp plug-ins for the later stages. I have been using the L6 POD Farm and Waves GTR3 lately and they are awesome. The benefit of the plugins is that you can record the dry guitar signals and try on different amp, cab, FX combinations later.
No. I am running the VG-88 directly into a Digidesign audio interface. While you can run the VG through an amp, it is really designed to go through a full range system. When I have played live with it, I just run it right into a PA and it sounds killer. I think it sounds a bit dull through a guitar amp.
Hello, Great video! What amp are you playing through and what are the EQ settings on it? How many effects can be used simultaneously? Is it possible to use other effects along with the VG88, is there an effects loop? I'd like to change the tuning while using flanger, pan, wah, reverb, distortion, delay, chorus, compressor, along with a whammy pedal. Can the VG88 do all of that at the same time in one patch? I appreciate any help. Thanks!
This a great demo! I am curious if your Jazz patch is a preset " 8:12 " and if not whick patch did you alter ? Roland is upgrading mine now.I should get it back soon. Thanks for the demo.
To be honest, I don't really recall. For my standard jazz tones (I've played with a few), I like to set the pick-up to "Chet" style (front pick-up) and roll the tone down to about 30 or so. I select the default F-hole as the body type and increase the size a bit.
The Fender twin model works well and I like to apply a little EQ to smooth the sound out a bit. Of course adding a nice rich reverb helps quite a bit also.
Another little trick is to add just a bit of -12 pitch to each string.
I know the "further info contact Roland" appears at the top here, but does aonyone know if the 88 allows a bass octave lower to work with all sounds, or only ones that have it built in. Also, what's the diff. bet. GK3 and GK2...bonus: whats' the big diff' bet. GK20 and GK88 and GK99. Relatively simple questions the poor customer relations Roland company basically avoids, so you'll always think the newest one is the best, IMHO!
You can definitely pitch shift just about any of the sounds. Using the Vari model, you can generate multiple pitches for each string. If you just want to have an octave lower, you set -12 for each string and turn the direct level down to 0.
The GR-20 is a guitar synthesizer while the VG-88 and VG-99 are modelling processors. The main difference is that a synth just converts the notes to MIDI, while the modeler uses the whole wave form (captures nuances of your playing style).
Yes. This is rev2. There were some nice additions made with rev2 (new nylon string, fretless effect, etc). I would also look into buying the VG-99; they added some really cool features to that one.
I'm not sure about forums for trading patches. I typically just write my own.
There is a cool program called VEditor that allows you to upload and download patches from the VG-88. It also has a nice little graphic interface for viewing and modifying patches. Anyway, a program like this will allow you to trade full patch sets with someone.
Great video. Some of the sounds i heard sound like the preprogramed patches and then others sound "homemade". Those are the ones i am really interested in. I have looked for people to connect with that are also users to find out how to dial in different settings to achieve certain sounds or tones. I really liked the clean strat sounds and those also with chorus. Any help would be greatly appreciated
To the best of my knowledge, the GK-3 and GK-2 only come in 6-string configurations. I have heard of people slapping them on a 7 string and just not catching the low-b string. This allows you to do all the modeling exept on that string.
Not perfect, but it works. Thanks for checking out the demo.
this question is very importan for me ,but, i am interestin in the drives whit more gain for example marshall tone. in this aspect is the same the tone marshall whit gk pickup or whitout gk pickup(only whit my fender mexican single coils)???
whit gk pickup is better the dinamics? is more real the drive amps models?(only the drives model amps)
I would really recommend getting a GK pickup. If you are not using it, you are missing a good deal of the features that the VG88 has to offer (alternate tunings, modeling differnet bodies and pickups, etc.). I also personally think the tones you get from the VG88 sound much better with the modeled pickups using the GK. You can still get good tones with the VG using your guitars pickups, I just think the VG is a little better (and quieter).
Could you please tell me if I can use the VG88 without the special pickup?. Only from the guitar output straight to the VG input? Can I use all the effects this way?
You can use the VG-88 with just a regular pick-up, but you will lose the individual string pitch-shifting and body modeling capabilities. Every once in a while I will use the VG-88 this way, but I generally prefer to use the hex pickup.
Hello Thelonius! Thank you very much for posting this video. It is very informative und helpful for me in deciding bying a used vg-88. The best I found here on YT. Ralf
Thank's for posting this - it's very good! Nice to hear some bread and butter USEABLE patches for once in a demo of the VG-88. I've had mine for 8 years and I haven't tired of it at all. Created all my own patches and still find new sonic territory in it all the time. The only things I regret are that the distortion effect models can't be used on an external normal guitar pickup, and it only has 128 user patch slots!
Nicest video of VG88 here, Thank you.
I have still the V1 version. Upgrade by myself or by Roland?
lucasbretels 1 week ago
Great Demo, I bought a used one last week and think its amazing
stampingdragon 1 month ago
"My Clean tone" sounds sweet. Is that a factory preset? If yes what number is that on the VG88? I just purchased a VG-88 yesterday.
caridell 5 months ago
@caridell That is not a factory patch. It is one I did myself. Basically it is a custom hard body model with one of the pick-ups being a piezo. I like the bit of sparkle that adds. The rest of the chain is pretty straight forward, I think ending in the Roland clean amp model.
TheloniusJ 5 months ago
Very very nice demo guy!! enjoy the sound ;) thank you very much for your time
Cityangel38 9 months ago
Cool device, wannabuy!)))
ASASHANYA 1 year ago
Great demo- Is this a VG88 V2 or regular VG88?
gitzilla2000 1 year ago
@gitzilla2000 V2. Glad you liked the demo.
TheloniusJ 1 year ago
I am really impressed with your demostation. I own a Vg88, but I cannot achieve the quality of your patches. I found some patches on web but yours are better. p.e. acoustic and 5th on 12-strings guitar. Can you share with us a few patches? Thanks for your time
xe1lg 1 year ago
@xe1lg Believe it or not, both of the patches you mention are factory presets (although I tweaked the amount of reverb on the piezo acoustic). Differences in your system may be in pick-up type, string gauge, or amp set up. I always run mine either direct or through full spectrum monitors (PA, keyboard amp, etc) using the monitor output setting (rather than guitar amp).
TheloniusJ 1 year ago
what kind of amp are you running the VG through? I have found it sounds great through the Roland KC amps but not your typical guitar rig (like a marshall tube head).
hambone8080 1 year ago
@hambone8080 I am actually running this directly into the sound card for this video. For playing live, the VGs are really designed to be played through full spectrum monitors. Like you, I have gotten pretty poor results running through a guitar amp (especially with the non-electric guitar sounds). The best results I have had live are going right into a PA system. This sounds killer.
TheloniusJ 1 year ago
what´pick-up midi to used?what' model?
cannonguitar 2 years ago
Hi, enjoyed your vid. Do you think the guitar as we know it is dead? I mean, is there know need for a real organic sound or lots of guitars in ones collection anymore? I'm mainly a keyboard player and have seen the shrinking of the piano industry over recent years. Do you think the same will happen to guitars with vertual modeling? If not why? Sorry about the amount of questions but I'm very interested in this issue. Technology 's great, but it would be a shame to see the guitar get hit to.
AnjelicasBaby 2 years ago
As much as it pains me, I think the digital stuff will in fact take over. Electronic Musician recently did a blind test with some well regarded producers (serious golden eared folks) comparing some classic amps with their software modeled counterparts. In every case, at least one was fooled and in several cases a majority were.
Digital stuff will only get better and with the cost and ease of use it quickly becomes a no-brainer.
TheloniusJ 2 years ago
Hi, thank you for the very honest answer. Yes I think you're right. It's a shame that's progress I guess. So I guess I'll be getting a vg99. The first time I heard it I was stunned. I suppose drummers will be next. The roland v-drums are unbelievable, and like you're saying they would just get better and better. Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions. All the best from Paul.
AnjelicasBaby 2 years ago
No problem. If you are going for live performance, the VG is definitely the way to go. If you are recording, I might suggest getting a modeling guitar (such as the Fender VG strat and use amp plug-ins for the later stages. I have been using the L6 POD Farm and Waves GTR3 lately and they are awesome. The benefit of the plugins is that you can record the dry guitar signals and try on different amp, cab, FX combinations later.
Good luck.
TheloniusJ 2 years ago
I didn't know about those options. Thank you for the information Pcheers Pall
AnjelicasBaby 2 years ago
Are you playing through your bravo 112?
guitarman376 2 years ago
No. I am running the VG-88 directly into a Digidesign audio interface. While you can run the VG through an amp, it is really designed to go through a full range system. When I have played live with it, I just run it right into a PA and it sounds killer. I think it sounds a bit dull through a guitar amp.
TheloniusJ 2 years ago
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Hello, Great video! What amp are you playing through and what are the EQ settings on it? How many effects can be used simultaneously? Is it possible to use other effects along with the VG88, is there an effects loop? I'd like to change the tuning while using flanger, pan, wah, reverb, distortion, delay, chorus, compressor, along with a whammy pedal. Can the VG88 do all of that at the same time in one patch? I appreciate any help. Thanks!
HLHIV 2 years ago
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HLHIV 2 years ago
This a great demo! I am curious if your Jazz patch is a preset " 8:12 " and if not whick patch did you alter ? Roland is upgrading mine now.I should get it back soon. Thanks for the demo.
Chris
Jazzguitman 3 years ago
To be honest, I don't really recall. For my standard jazz tones (I've played with a few), I like to set the pick-up to "Chet" style (front pick-up) and roll the tone down to about 30 or so. I select the default F-hole as the body type and increase the size a bit.
The Fender twin model works well and I like to apply a little EQ to smooth the sound out a bit. Of course adding a nice rich reverb helps quite a bit also.
Another little trick is to add just a bit of -12 pitch to each string.
TheloniusJ 3 years ago
I know the "further info contact Roland" appears at the top here, but does aonyone know if the 88 allows a bass octave lower to work with all sounds, or only ones that have it built in. Also, what's the diff. bet. GK3 and GK2...bonus: whats' the big diff' bet. GK20 and GK88 and GK99. Relatively simple questions the poor customer relations Roland company basically avoids, so you'll always think the newest one is the best, IMHO!
yuppiemobile69 3 years ago
You can definitely pitch shift just about any of the sounds. Using the Vari model, you can generate multiple pitches for each string. If you just want to have an octave lower, you set -12 for each string and turn the direct level down to 0.
The GR-20 is a guitar synthesizer while the VG-88 and VG-99 are modelling processors. The main difference is that a synth just converts the notes to MIDI, while the modeler uses the whole wave form (captures nuances of your playing style).
TheloniusJ 3 years ago
so good!!! good job!!
lzvai 3 years ago
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super0015 3 years ago
Hi man!
thanks for the video. I'm an italian guitarist and I'm looking for an used VG-88. a question: the one that you are using in teh video is a rev 2?
ciao
finneganwake 3 years ago
Yes. This is rev2. There were some nice additions made with rev2 (new nylon string, fretless effect, etc). I would also look into buying the VG-99; they added some really cool features to that one.
Thanks for the comment.
TheloniusJ 3 years ago
I think that I'll buy the 88. and what about patches? are there some downloadable libraries all over the worldwide web?
finneganwake 3 years ago
I'm not sure about forums for trading patches. I typically just write my own.
There is a cool program called VEditor that allows you to upload and download patches from the VG-88. It also has a nice little graphic interface for viewing and modifying patches. Anyway, a program like this will allow you to trade full patch sets with someone.
TheloniusJ 3 years ago
Hi there
Great video. Some of the sounds i heard sound like the preprogramed patches and then others sound "homemade". Those are the ones i am really interested in. I have looked for people to connect with that are also users to find out how to dial in different settings to achieve certain sounds or tones. I really liked the clean strat sounds and those also with chorus. Any help would be greatly appreciated
Thanks
myohmygetfiddle
myohmygetfiddle 3 years ago
hi there! can I put this ck-3 on a 7 string guitar?
vlmarques 3 years ago
To the best of my knowledge, the GK-3 and GK-2 only come in 6-string configurations. I have heard of people slapping them on a 7 string and just not catching the low-b string. This allows you to do all the modeling exept on that string.
Not perfect, but it works. Thanks for checking out the demo.
TheloniusJ 3 years ago
Hi Thelonius, nice presentation.
i talk spanish. my english poor sorry
i have the vg88 but not the gk pickup
this question is very importan for me ,but, i am interestin in the drives whit more gain for example marshall tone. in this aspect is the same the tone marshall whit gk pickup or whitout gk pickup(only whit my fender mexican single coils)???
whit gk pickup is better the dinamics? is more real the drive amps models?(only the drives model amps)
this is the best Review in you tube +5
rgx611m 3 years ago
rgx611m- Thanks for the comment.
I would really recommend getting a GK pickup. If you are not using it, you are missing a good deal of the features that the VG88 has to offer (alternate tunings, modeling differnet bodies and pickups, etc.). I also personally think the tones you get from the VG88 sound much better with the modeled pickups using the GK. You can still get good tones with the VG using your guitars pickups, I just think the VG is a little better (and quieter).
TheloniusJ 3 years ago
Hi Thelonius, nice presentation!
Could you please tell me if I can use the VG88 without the special pickup?. Only from the guitar output straight to the VG input? Can I use all the effects this way?
misternogreco 3 years ago
You can use the VG-88 with just a regular pick-up, but you will lose the individual string pitch-shifting and body modeling capabilities. Every once in a while I will use the VG-88 this way, but I generally prefer to use the hex pickup.
TheloniusJ 3 years ago
Hello Thelonius! Thank you very much for posting this video. It is very informative und helpful for me in deciding bying a used vg-88. The best I found here on YT. Ralf
rdauks 3 years ago
Thank's for posting this - it's very good! Nice to hear some bread and butter USEABLE patches for once in a demo of the VG-88. I've had mine for 8 years and I haven't tired of it at all. Created all my own patches and still find new sonic territory in it all the time. The only things I regret are that the distortion effect models can't be used on an external normal guitar pickup, and it only has 128 user patch slots!
audiotrax2000 3 years ago
Dudee for a demo your freaking awesome i own one of these VG-88 thingss lol and it sounds amazing
reallyASTONishing 3 years ago
Thanks everyone, for the positive comments. I am glad folks are getting something out of this.
TheloniusJ 3 years ago
Thanks, I also agree, You should be hired by Roland! Nice demo,Great playing.Gotta get on E-bay now. Thanks again for the inspiration!
shypokem 3 years ago
Utterly awesome, thanks to this video I'll be getting myself one of these!
WTFRawrtube 3 years ago
great! Roland's staff should use this video to explain vg88 settings...
capufreeska 3 years ago
Mountain of Man approved!
uchideshi 3 years ago
nice man!!
Fusionjazzfunk 3 years ago