Sonic CD Beta 409 - Hoax

[jeepsollender]

2:27 Sonics worst nightmare LOL

[CJH3D]

Using the magic of video editing software, I was able to make 510 with 409's Mercury Mine.

[bubby912]

whats mercury mine zone? 0.o

[Meganeo5]

@bubby912 Sonic CD doesn't include the R2 Level. You can find this out, that the level select jumps from 1 to 3 and the PC Version doesn't contain a R2 folder. Mercury Mine Zone is just a name people thought how the zone could have been called. Only a rumor.

[bubby912]

@Meganeo5 oh ive been wondering about mercury mine for a while :P

[JDaMac815]

So you don't like black eyed people..?

:<

[Meganeo5]

@JDaMac815 I'm sorry. I didn't want to offend any black eyed people. I don't have anything against them. ;)

[JDaMac815]

@Meganeo5 It's okay im Dark Brown eyed.

[Pantha35]

The only problem with this hoax is that the "Mercury Mine" displayed the Zone's title card while Sonic was supposedly in the Past. Then again it was made to look like a beta which that could have been done in it. Still, it was a good mock up for the time it was shown.

[KuchiboyROBLOX]

5:08

"Sonic four"

[HyperSonicXtreme]

@KuchiboyROBLOX

It's playing a slower version of "Toot Toot Sonic Warrior"

[SniperStorm7]

Mercury Mine-sounds cool!

[SonicTweaker]

Um... I didn't make this. Nemesis made it years ago.

[Meganeo5]

@SonicTweaker Is that so? Well then I'm going to fix this now.

[SonicVaan]

Shall I reupload this somewhere and give you the link, before this ever gets lost? =P

[Meganeo5]

@SonicVaan I still have the files, but you can upload it somewhere else and give the link. I will add this in the description.

[SomeNoob13]

9:30 Kong Fu fighting?

[Brainburner5]

Name for CCZ-ShortStop Zone

[Berlitz9999]

(From last comment) The song even goes "YEYYY!!" too, or is it just the Amy gang? X.x

[Berlitz9999]

2:30 Sonic's gonna get raped by Amy gang! >.>;

[jamesoleruster]

Lolz. As soon as Sonic dies at 5:00, part of the music says "YAY!". Does everyone hate Sonic? O_o

[Meganeo5]

@jamesoleruster Hah, you're totally right. Well misplaced cheery music, eh?

[mspeter97]

@Meganeo5 really misplaced

[Darkspines22]

I love how the music had the people cheering when Sonic died at 4:59

[KaozEXODUS]

2:27 My nigga sonics a pimp!

[Berlitz9999]

@KaozEXODUS DAMN STR8!! XD

[newclipripper]

mercury mine ?

[Meganeo5]

@newclipripper Yes, there was a rumor that the lost level (a.k.a R2) was called Mercury Mine.

[mspeter97]

@Meganeo5 but why do they erease that level?

[Meganeo5]

@mspeter97 No one really knows why it got deleted. Maybe they didn't have much time to finish this?

[haxor758]

lol sonic is a pimp

[InsanimationStudios]

2:03 WTF? Metal Sonic in a dress?

[Meganeo5]

See? I knew Metal Sonic was a girl since his debut! :O

[tkwtube01]

Oh, Metal does that in the final version too.

[tkwtube01]

Oh, Amy does that in the final version too (PC at least).

[kyllian1212]

Windoze?

[Meganeo5]

Windows, lol.

[SonicHeroes565]

go to sonic stuff isos

[Meganeo5]

Sonic Stuff has only the 510, 712 and 920 beta. Maybe he wanted the Beta Hoax 409.

I already uploaded them on Mediafire, zShare and Rapidshare

[supersonicseed]

fuck FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCC­CCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK­KKKKKKKK I FINALY FIND THIS AND I CANT DOWNLOAD IT AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH­HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh

[Meganeo5]

Give me a little time. I could upload this again.

[edfreak9001]

Why is the music so different?

[Cranezyer]

JP/EU version OST

[liammillay2]

@edfreak9001 the japanese and european version of this game had a diffrent soundtrack

[tracker929]

i cant even work it with magicISO

[DarkonMK]

this is a awesome hack i mean beta:D

[koks3D]

2:37 LOL Female Metal Sonic XD

[foxskywalker64]

2:26

Sonic's worst nightmare!

2:36

Sonic's even worse nightmare; Amy's been fused with Metal Sonic!

[pizzaiolom]

i got that... someone has posted a torrent with over 9000 beta demos of games... and knuckles' chaotix was there too, in the earlier version, the sega screen has the game map

[sk8rdood67]

lol its not hard to make a fake beta of a game

delete a bunch of code, add in some blank levels, and a fake timestamp.

ur good to go now

[ACrossingCF]

I think the lost "level 2" was a desert level. Why? Go to the DA garden feature. Look at the planet. You see every zone on it along with a desert. In the bad future the cactus turns to a metal tower. I guess the zone was scrapped due to quality issues.

[RabidRaccoonUK]

Mercury Mine was a hoax. Supposedly the lost "Level 2" in the level select, which was never ever made in the end and in no betas anywhere...

[Meganeo5]

Yeah I know, it has been said a few times.

[HyperSonicXtreme]

4:59 reminds me of Sonic 2 beta LOL!!

blue screen and no ground and you fall to your death

[sk8rdood67]

lol

[shalpp]

lol the tidal tempest underwater pallet is the good future one

[zerosvc2]

it's a hoax of sonic CD. and you know why?

IT'S GOT MUSIC.

Beta 519 had NO music, so why would an earlier prototype?

[seanieb64]

**510 DID have music, but it's generally hard to find, I have several videos of it on my profile if you wanna check it out with its' soundtrack in place.

[XboxKing3600]

lol when amys are there it sounds like there saying yay! cuz sonics there

[MegamanZXer77]

best part was the multiple amys

[MOUPIMOUPI]

Mercury Mines, but no Wacky Workbench?

:o

[Irixion]

It's a hoax, everyone knows this.

[SonicVaan]

Mercury Mine?!

[Kuhazan]

I'm going to just say this has to be real only because if I had the skill to tweak this game I would consider making it run worst a waste of my time. Oh and let's not forget the person wouldn't be getting paid to tamper with the game so yeah... it'd be a waste of his or her time :P

[Daejien]

Not necessarily, many people make Hoaxes and hacks of games and don't get a dime

[SpiralPegasus]

Really nice.

I doubt of it being real though =P

If it is real, all hats off, you and wherever you got it from wins ALL internets!

If it's not, the hacker behind this is amazing.

I would love it to be real but (don't flame me, its constructive criticism IMO) I've readed that Nemesis has done something like this. He is a great hacker so it wouldn't surprise me if it was him.

Let's do a 'differences list' to compare SCD510 and final, and this

(continue)

[SpiralPegasus]

1 - SCD510 has different Sneakers theme, Intro theme and different sounding invincibility theme.

2 - Past and future DO work on 510. If the sound of the time travel (quite ugly) is on your beta, it's probably fake.

3 - If EVER a game is released for press, it would have at least two finishable acts/zones/levels. I find very odd that there's no way to complete PPZ1

4 - I BET that you have found THREE teleporters on this beta, on CCZGF that didn't appear at all on any version

(continues)

[SpiralPegasus]

5 - 'Mercury Mines' neh? That is an old name the Sonic community has given to the ruins zone on the full ending video, which should match your empty level.

If there was such level I think there should be, at least, tiles loaded from another zone, like Genocide City uses Aquatic Ruin's

Sorry if this all turns you down, I'm just saying what I think about it and doing some sort of analisis. Your video on it is actually great. I'm rating it 5/5 ^_^

[Meganeo5]

No Problem, but i found out that 510 Save States work without Problems on 409 Hoax. It's funny that the Animation for teleporting and other things work in this Hoax, so it is just unacssesible because the "R2" Level is filling it.

[SpiralPegasus]

Still, it's very nice for both you finding it and Nemesis for trying to fool us all.

BTW, savestates? Is there anyway to get savestates for SegaCD? =O

[Meganeo5]

I made Savestates in Gens. First loaded 510 to savestate in the Teleporting Scene. Then loading the Savestate on Beta 409. It worked perfectly.

BTW, i don't have a TV Capture card so i used the ISO instead.

[SpiralPegasus]

Great to hear Gens has savestates for MCD! How can I get the ISO to work on gens? It says something of "cartridge not inserted, put in ram cartridge" on a letter Robotnik's holding.

[Meganeo5]

When you start, you see the Bios. Press the "A" Button to go to the player. Now press the "Memory" button and it should show some info. Press a button and then choose [RAM] Format. Click YES and it should work now.

[SpiralPegasus]

Thanks a lot! Done and it worked!

Now I'm sure I'll get the good ending! lol

[rifi111]

@SpiralPegasus

that's is true but.. you forget something... the tiles, are saved in the binary document of the zone.. so, the game, read Only the document of this zone, and no another.. (if you speak spanish, i can tell you this "better")

and well, is not so empty after all.. XD he only show the zone BUT ¿what's about the debug mode?

[SpiralPegasus]

@rifi111 Si si hablo español! Honestamente perdoname pero no te entendi bien...

Igual este tipo SonicTweaker ya confirmó que es falso.

[rifi111]

@SpiralPegasus

lo que intente decirte, es que en el sonic CD, solo carga los "bloques" del nivel.. que se encuentran en el codigo binario de este, (para verlo, entra A el archivo Sonic_CD.rar). si te fijas bn, dice: R1A R1B, R1C, R1D (por ejemplo)

pues bueno, el juego, lee UNICAMENTE lo que esta en ese archivo... un ejemplo claro de esto, seria, comparando el acto 3 de MM (metallic madness) con el 1 o 2, al compararlos notaras que faltan objetos, por que solo carga los bloques del codigo

-Sigue

[rifi111]

@rifi111

en otras palabras, para el niv. 1 acto 1 solo carga los objetos y graficos del niv 1 act. 1 y si el niv. esta incompleto o vacio (como R2) NO carga los bloques y objetos del 2do acto ¿porque? por la razon ya explicada ese es el sistema que usa el sonic CD; Pero... si fuera Genesis, Si cargaria los de otro niv. ¿porque? porque todo esta en UN unico bloque binario

[rifi111]

@rifi111

havia olvidado una cosa mas: uno, que no soy programador de juegos, pero aun asi, se lo suficiente como para unir 2 en 1..

2, que en otras palabras, en los juegos de genesis, esta todo en un codigo binario, asi que el emulador, carga todo lo del codigo, pero en el sonic CD, al ser multiples, carga solo uno.. y despues el del proccimo acto, es decir, que en genesis, los niveles y actos estan todos juntos, pero en Mega CD no..

PD.: disculpen por el testamento.. ^ ^;

[SpiralPegasus]

@rifi111 Ah, ok, ahora si te capto.

[wvistaultimate]

Sonic CD 409 is a (very good) hack of Sonic CD 510, done by Nemesis.