Zhang Guozheng - 187.5kg Clean & Jerk, 2004 Olympics

[tldevilsh]

olympic weightlifting requires way more strict dieting joint sacrifices dedication and science compared to bodybuilding. these guys require serious medical supervision as well as supplementary advantage compared to many of other athletes in other sports

[TheShankman]

did he make that lift? looked pretty far from a lockout to me

[epaluoma]

@TheShankman If you are referring that his arms are not straight, they don't have to be. Some have elbow problems and can't fully extend their arms, or it's just an technique thing. Keeping the arm in the same position after the weight is jerked is enough.

[SizzlinSisley]

What you guys don't understand is that a power lifting squat and an olympic lifter's squat are two entirely different lifts. An olympic lifter goes to full depth and bounces out of the bottom. A powerlifter barely hits parralell. Nobody in the world has ever actually done a full squat with 600 kg, and if power lifters have done half squats with it, I gurantee there are plenty of 105+ olympic lifters that can do half squats with it as well.

[slun4o90]

@SizzlinSisley

dude only powerlifters in US do half squats in Europe powerlifters do full squats ofcourse with lower weights but the thing is that the rules are different

[athleticchak]

I hope i can make all peope understand how crazy weightlifting is , the powerlifting world records are made only by powerlifters,weightlifters dont take part this competition because they know they can do it easily and this is lower level than them, as i explained earlier, those explanation is the reason why Olympic only accepts weightlifting and not powerlifting, if u or ur fds argue it, snatch it and C&J it!!

[Gokulsan]

@athleticchak Did you just say 'weightlifters' can do what powerlifters do easily?

[Eitzo]

@athleticchak you're full of shit, 'can squat over 600kgs' - the world record is 566.9 kg by Vlad Alhazov... its bullshit saying that a whole bunch of people can do more and not even train hard. name -one- person who doesn't train hard (godzilla doesn't count) and does more and I'll happily retract my statement.

[Eitzo]

@athleticchak I'll take your word for it, can you link the 620 kg squat?

[Eitzo]

@athleticchak and yes I am more than familiar with clean and jerk and although I don't claim to be able to move godly mountain-scale weights I can perform 'weightlifting' technique to a decent standard.

[athleticchak]

@Eitzo

Nonono, u still dont understand, if u hv strong snatch, u must hv strong C&J, because C&J is always heavier than snatch!! Watch weightlifting competition

[Eitzo]

@athleticchak I -completely- understood all of your comments >.< My point is even though they are strong, they are -not- able to lift those numbers i.e. 600kg squat that you said. Again to be clear, I -completely- understand what you are saying; however I -disagree- with the numbers you said and you haven't provided one bit of -proof- that these guys can squat 600kg. yes these lifts are hard; we -completely- understand that. -separate- issue is that they can't squat 600kg. clear :)

[dan7edan7e]

@athleticchak Zhang squated 220kg for 2 reps. Guadamud did 310 for 2 reps. Now.... somehow you doubled those numbers.... That makes me and the rest of us assured THAT YOU DONT KNOW MOTHERFUCKIN SHIT ABOUT SPORT. Go teach ya fuckin skinny loser mates, cuz the rest of us wont listen to your shit. And any professional "bodyfucker" like you call them would kick the shit out of you and your whole family at the same time if he wants to. GET A FUCKIN LIFE.... OUT OF YOUTUBE.

[athleticchak]

@dan7edan7e

i know i was wrong, sorry i am Thai boxer, i would like to give u and ur family Thai kicks, want to make an appointment?

[dan7edan7e]

@athleticchak After all the bullshit you have said about weightlifting.... Please dont embarass another great sport, which Thai box definately is, by associating it with your name. Now, please, GTFO.

[athleticchak]

@Eitzo

continue, use Zhang as example, he can snatch 160 kgs and 187.5kg C&J, he must have insane deadlift to support these weightlifings.Let me explain to u in detailed steps, what if ur deadlift maximum is 100kgs, u cant neither snatch nor C&J, to think it easily, go to find a long stick(e.g. 1 kg) in light weights in ur house whatever it is and try snatch,at this point , i will ask u can u deadlift 2 or 3 long sticks, u must reply me yes! Try it! I will explain in another msg

[Eitzo]

@athleticchak I never anything about zhang and yes you are right that you need to have strong primary movements to support clean and jerk - again no disagreement there. I had an issue with you saying weightlifters can easily do 600kg squat without training which is bullshit - yes they have strong squats but they don't smash out those numbers.

[viator22]

@Eitzo Especially since that would be a world record raw lift even in the highest weight classes.

[athleticchak]

Continue, so if u can snatch 20 kgs the barbell, u definitely can deadlift twice or three times mor than that,why? Because u hv strong deadlift enough to support u to snatch it ! Deadlift and squat is usually the same, if u can deadlift 100 kgs ,u can squat 100kgs ,this approximate number. try to think about snatch again, actually this is overhead squat!! U must hv crazy back squat to support it!!! Go try snatch!!

[dan7edan7e]

@Eitzo i dont know a single person who squats 250kg and doesnt train hard lol =) this guy is and idiot, just leave him to his fantasies.

[spoonr47]

Why does any exercise type video have to resort to some jealous retard talkin about someone taking drugs or roids. Just appreciate that tiny china man can lift weights. This is the Olympics, no drugs involved retards.

[08wallic]

Hes my hero cuz he cant lock his elbows just like i cant

[LayEmOut60]

Isn't it illegal to not lock out on the jerk like that? I'm honestly just curious.

[quepasahomes]

He looks pretty locked out to me. But otherwise yeah you have be locked out, no press out at the top is allowed either.

[lshangming]

idiots don't know the difference between bodybuilding and weightlifting/powerlifting?

negged phaggot.

[Randleman2]

bodybuilding is so stupid, those guys are so unhealthy and so unathletic

[mareek13]

omg noob! this is not a bodybuilding...

faq

[Randleman2]

I know it's a bodybuilding faq, i was actually replying to a comment below. I'm a huge fan of olympic weightlifting and compete myself. Zhang is amazing.

[KyoukouSuneku]

OWYH

[Apjooz]

Hahaha, diving under while looking at the floor. Great lift.

[Randleman2]

to have to get that low and catch it and stand back up is ultra impressive, wow!

[areallycleverone]

i outweigh this guy by 20 pounds yet i can only do two-fifths what he can do. awesome

[TheBritishLord]

@areallycleverone Well done mate, Still not bad, more will come with practise :D, outa curiosity how old are you?

[fatcat669]

oh yah im convinced that the jintropin factory sends packages to these guys every week :/

[ke422azn]

Im convinced you are a pussy faggot.

[fatcat669]

what was my original comment i cant even read it

[illuzn88]

whats jintropin?

[fatcat669]

the finest HGH on the planet

[fatcat669]

im constantly amazed by how olympic lifters who look substantially smaller than pl'ers or bodybuilders can carry so much strength in such a small package. look at how he muscles up the bar on his right arm when he fails to lock the elbow out. fuckin amazing

[Cubu47]

that's as far as he can extend his right elbow

[illuzn88]

body buiders main goal is to look big so they take supplements and drugs to stimulate body growth. while athletes are fit and strong, condition to what they are required to do with max efficiency.

[yourmummashopsataldi]

yah cos professional weightlifters don't use drugs/supps..

[pureefficient]

@illuzn88

no sorry dude but bodybuilders are athletes as well. If you say everybody is a roid junky might as well say that to the other atheltes that run and such.

you dont think bodybuilders are fit and strong?

[JacktheDaniels]

@pureefficient

But they don't train to actually perform well physically, just to look a certain way.

I wouldn't call that being an athlete.

[pureefficient]

@JacktheDaniels

yes but you stating they juice is just ignorant. not all do. And just so you know they can do alot more then just be train to look athetically pleasing.

Some people bust their ass if thats not a form of real sports then i dont know what is.

shooting hoops woundlnt be considerd much of a sport if you just stand in one place.

what most people define as sports is the activity level they percive to be achieved enough to call it a sport.

[JacktheDaniels]

@pureefficient

I never said that anyone juiced, I think you're talking to someone else.

I know that a lot of bodybuilders CAN do amazing things physically, great strength being an obvious side-effect of their training, I'm just pointing out that they don't train specifically for physical proficience, and so for that I don't consider them athletes. I would consider one condition of being an athlete to be training for physical performance, but we shouldn't let this become just about semantics.

[roybaerPL]

@illuzn88

athletes take supplements and sometimes drugs too, just look at the tour de france and everything...

[RandomRoms]

@illuzn88 if you seriously think that olympic lifters don't take steroids and other performance enhancing drugs you're just ignorant.

[skata123456789456123]

@illuzn88 they take the same steroids, at probably the same amount...

[Eitzo]

@illuzn88 wrong. firstly taking supplements does not 'do the work for you'

secondly the biggest powerlifters take the -same- shit as the biggest bodybuilders except for dihuretics

they are MUCH bigger than these powerlifters and lift MUCH more weight - drugs don't do the work for you, they just enable you to push harder and train more frequently which in turn stimulates beyond 'natural' growth. take ronnie - he's set world records for STRENGTH - your argument is flawed, naive and ignorant.

[afterthefact17]

@illuzn88 I'm sure these guys take steroids too.

[zislam159159]

@afterthefact17 man the testing they go thru is ridiculous. so I would highly doubt it.

[afterthefact17]

@zislam159159 I understand that but the timing they take the steroids before testing and stuff is down to a science. I'm not really sure if there are random tests so I'm pretty mis informed in that respect... but you have to remember bodybuilders in some competitions also go through steroid testings.

[rush2905]

@illuzn88 lol what.. athletes and Olympians take just as many supplements, if not more

[290491c]

para mi los chinos son piratas pq son puro chocho

[hater172]

Just imagine if this guy studied shoalin, he'd be unstoppable!!

[chester1080]

Awesome lift !

[TheologiansCafe]

you dont just pick what style of c&j you want to do.....yea his form was a little off, but it was better than anyone else that competed in the olympic in his class

[sr19]

im no expert but that jerk looked horrible.body was bent all over the place unstable and just didnt look immpressive

[Cubu47]

you have no idea how difficult a squat jerk is do you?

[sr19]

thats my point, why didnt he just do a split jerk? its far more stable. if its so miuch harder, why is he doing a squat jerk?

[ArentWeSpecial]

It's just a matter of preference. A squat jerk is "difficult" in the sense that it requires more flexibility, but compared to a split jerk I've found it's actually easier to recover.

[Sarge343]

Split jerk is easier in terms of balance, but it's easier to get under the bar in the squat jerk

[corrmick]

The so-called "Chinese Method" implements concentric overhead squats from blocks in phases. They're able to properly identify lifters who will benefit from structural lifts training towards improving the squat jerks because of the sheer number of great coaches they have staffing their training halls and constantly rooting out problems in technique. Some lifters have great power and technique but just don't do so well with the split jerk and are able to progress more rapidly with the squat jerk..

[rohitf117]

It depends on Lifters strengths and weakness I read it somewhere Chinese Lifter can do more Overhead squats than front squats bcoz at overhead squats whole load concentrate on bottom of their ribs Its their strength like Dimas has strong shoulders for Push jerk they hv extreme stability,flexibility and incredible leg strength to do full squat jerk

[JacktheDaniels]

@sr19

Yeah too bad it was the lift that WON THE FUCKING OLYMPICS.

[aks73]

holy shit he went deep on that jerk!!

[815ripper]

he retired because of the problem of his waist

[bojanglesk88]

Does anyone know if he'll be at Beijing???

[Dreaddo]

He didn't make the team. Liao Hui and Shi Zhiyong are lifting in the 69kg class for China.

[nbatweek]

nice, but the lockout looked dangerous

[Theo182]

That's because he's in the 105kg class, jackass.

[athleticchak]

@Theo182

you are fucked ass , he always play 69 kg class, go to watch all his competition videos

[rednatsyb]

lmao

[nebyou]

you dumbass look how much he weighs

[LOSHOK2]

CHINISE FREAKS :-!

[LardMonkey6]

TIGHT!!!!!!

[SoftwareSoul]

Zhang Gouzheng competed in sydney in the 69kg class but didnt get a medal he placed 4th, galabin boevski won gold in that category.

[synthese]

zhang xugang

[ANaqvi]

yeah sorry i didn't know you were talking about another chinese lifter... i thought you were talking about this guy...there names aren't THAT different lol

[ANaqvi]

dude, your thinking of another chinese lifter Xu zang i think...this guy was in the 69 kg class in 2000 and didn't win any medal i think.

[towerofvenice]

if you think this jerk is gutsy, you should see zhan zughang 207.5kg jerk in 2000 to win!

[wilwn]

ditto. grinded out a full overhead squat.

[ANaqvi]

TOVenice, you have your facts wrong...

A) Zhan didn't jerk 207.5 in 2000

B) He didn't win in 2000

c) His best clean and jerk, which I THINK is a world record, is 197.5

[Danmanis01]

actually yes he did in the 77 kg class in 2000 he clean and jerked 207.5 and won gold with that lift. look it up on youtube

[ANaqvi]

i though galabin boevki won gold...

[Kruszakus]

Boevski won the gold in the 69 kilos division. Zhan set the OR with his 207.5 jerk and won the gold in the 77 klos division.

[LazySniper]

@towerofvenice your thinking of Zhan Xugang. He is a double olympic gold medalist in 1996 and 2000. he did 207.5 kg in sydney. Zhang Gouzheng is him. his best is the 69kg world record. Chinese names get confusing sometimes.

[btxnick]

holy crap, what a jerk!

[synthese]

this is one of the gutsiest squat jerks i've seen.

[brentlovesulol]

do you have video of the snatch?