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  • YOU'RE AN IDIOT, if you do not review FORZA 4! Now with KINECT Head Tracking! :P

  • car at 2:37 ?

  • I think "fanboys" forget that healthy critacism is a good thing. Im over fanboys looking at a game threw rose coloured glasses, as pointing out, and not ignoring any issues with a game could lead to improvements in the future. IMPROVEMENTS FOR YOU, THE FANBOYS. Notice how Forza 4 is better than Forza 3, and Forza 3 is awsome.

  • i love this game it's so fun to play.

  • I recently played Forza 4 on a friend's 360 (I own a PS3 only)... Now I'm saving money for a 360. NEED to play that game!

  • @MistwalkerZ if you own a ps3 and are trying to buy a 360... get a life

  • @vipersickboy24 Oh, but I own a 360 now, and a PS3, and a PSP, and a laptop capable of playing good games. With all that, who the hell needs to get a life? :D

  • GO TEAM I LIKE PUPPIES!

  • I love you CGR you are the best Im your biggest fan

  • This is the best game ever for xbox 360

  • I drove a dream once. But I ended up crashing into a non sequitur.

  • review forza 4

  • Didn't mention the handling :/

  • i just got a lesson in L.A :D

  • i will spell it right: You are an Idiot !:D (joke)

  • ...old video but wow, really taking semantics to a whole new level. I guess this is the black sheep of your usually great video reviews.

  • in gt5 my 1990 toyota supra goes 200+ easily on the le mans circuit

  • @randumbvids11 Cool story bro

  • I have to say, this is probably one of my favorite Classic Game Room episodes. Mark's the best.

  • you know what i like best about this game, theres tonnes of cars that you will acctually drive, whereas on gran turismo theres like 50 different toyota yaris' and the like :/

  • I find the English lessons quite educational

  • plz, less english lessons, more review! thanx :)

  • my dream just became truth, xD

  • I love the game but I came here for a review, not an English lesson.

  • i actually love the rewind feature cause if you're in a long race and you spin out on the last lap you don't have to restart from all the way from the beginning

  • lol this guys funny, he knows his trolls really well...

  • This Game was almost exactly what I expected.The only thing was that the car selection was disapointing.

  • I thought the graphics were much different in HD.

  • I think an incredibly under-played game is Racedriver: Grid. The only thing it lacks is the in-depth customization, but it makes up for it in the gameplay.

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  • I own both GT5 and Forza 3 and after studious hours of game play, I've come to the following conclusion: They're both video games.

    Ever see the Southpark episode, TMI? "My video game is better than your video game and I have to tell everyone and if you think differently, I hate you and I dont have a small penis!"

    I'm glad Mark puts these videos up. It gives proof to the outside world that just because you play games, it doesn't make you an prepubescent, whiney small wiener fanboy.

  • @ghostmedic171 they live in call of duty silly!

  • What a fucking fag

  • nice review

  • rewind may "cheapen the game" but you dont have to use it

  • i have both gt5 and forza 3 they are both good gt5 has more detail but shocking shadows and forza has realism and customizing dont say anything bad about any grand turismo games or any forza games and dont criticize this comment

  • I haven't played the any of the Forza's past the first one, but one thing the GT series gets its arse handed to it is in the sound dept. Forza sounds better, NFS sounds better, Dirt sounds better. Never been able to figure out why that is...

  • oh, and 87 people are IDIOTS ;)

  • why would anyone call this guy an idiot? He makes the BEST reviews and upload them on youtube so we can decide if we buy it, play it or not, based on an experienced player. i don't think we should talk to him like that, e helps me a lot, believe me.

    Thanks a lot mate, I LOVE your videos :)

    Sorry for the bad english, I'm Portuguese, so i may need some lessons :p

    Greetings from Portugal to Classic Game Room HD!

  • LMAOOO!

  • is this a game review or a english lesson LOL =] love this game!

  • I love the grammar lessons! I'm an idiot...

  • gt fans do the same shit.

  • he just callded him self an idiot :D

  • dame son he skooled his ass

  • gt5 owns this shit.

  • forza 1 was a great game! it has great tracks.

  • you are definetly NOT an idiot if you think forza 2 is better than forza 3. turn 10 should have done more to improve the game.

    i like your reviews because you don't pick a side but you just love race games. (like me!)

    but people that say forza 3 is easier than gt5 don't know anything.

    and if you want a race simulator on console? go get race pro or formula 1 2010.

  • @ 2girls1freak, r u stupid, each car in forza is dynoed idiot, go read about it b4 u talk shit, u must be the most ignorant person ever 2 say the engine sounds r not better. Every car in gt5 sounds similar, whereas in forza u can hear vtec cross over u moron if u kno wat that is , ur prolly just a kid. And actually if u play with clutch, and traction control off, its way harder then gt, in gt its hard 2 get the car off the track, its like a fucking arcade game, gt5 fails horribly.

  • Forza is a simulator, need for speed, and all those other games r just a game, not a simulator.

  • when it comes to graphics and phsyics, nothing beats gt5. NOTHING. however need for speed shift beats it in sound and forza beats it in online play.

  • @2girls1freak, what physics, sounds are artificial, I cant even upgrade breaks, car's over steer regardless of tires and suspension setting, took them 6 yrs 2 port gt4 in hd, and 20 percent of the cars have interior view, which still look like crap. In fm3, each car was dynoed, hence the in game dyno, and natural car sounds, where a honda sounds like a honda, and ferrari like one. U get clutch button, breka upgrades, engine swaps, more tuning options= more simulation. Damage in gt is way off.

  • @MrBruce1337 when it comes to graphics and phsyics, nothing beats gt5. NOTHING.

    who gives a shit about damage? go play burnout for that. forza is a game for kids. it's so dam easy. and the engine sounds are no better than gt5.

  • I'm an idiot.

  • lol

  • you going to make forza 4 review when it comes out? :D

  • looks like too much arcade game... no me gusta!

  • Jesus Christ this guy should be an English teacher not a video game reviewer.

  • 1:07 - 1:17

    Nothing short of poetry.

  • Lmao its internets any understandable typing is accepted

    Why?!

    Cuz we don care if you get mad, simple as that

    Piss

  • You are am a idiot. :P

  • 6:00 I believe you have Rossi on your tail. HATE that driver!

  • Lol Let's drive a dream!! xD

  • Someone needs to start making Classic Game Room vinyls. I'd make some myself, but I couldn't design my way out of a paper bag.

  • Although I play games like Gran Turismo 5 which really trains you to be a race car driver. Well a Track Day attacker actually and I play GT5 with a steering wheel and use that setup to sort of warm myself up and make up new driving techniques like Heel and toe and short braking to adapt it to my weekend track day a bit easier. Im a gamer and a racer.

  • Hello and thank you for reviewing this game, I own F3 myself and am looking forward to purchasing F4 in the coming months. I enjoyed your review and although I don't agree with every part of it such as the mention that there has been very little done to the graphics because I can really observe the difference in graphics between F2 and F3 and it is a noticeable improvement. Another point that I will agree with you on is that F3 and GT4 are on par but F3 is slightly better i think. Great review!

  • Probably one of the funniest reviews I've ever seen/heard i disagree with some of it but still entertaining to listen to, even reading the back of the case haha

  • Forza 3 is an absolutely great game, the only thing they should improve is: 1. the steering is a bit sluggish and the steering wheel in cockpit is used minimally 2. the cockpit view is abit too high 3. the cockpits look good but not stunning at all and I miss more tracks (not only thousands of variations) AND I also miss more "standard" cars instead of only super sports cars (for example more cars like Golf 2 or Opel Astra...)

  • Need for speed shift 2 unleashed is ten times better

  • @JACKiiCHATzZ Agreed. GT5 and Forza are basically games for car nerds. They are for the kind of people who would have tons of rare, fast cars if they had the money, but would keep them locked in their garage all the time. Shift 2 celebrates the simple joy of RACING.

  • God dammit kids, knock it off with these dumb comments, grow up, first of all, Mr. Mark's reviews aren't objective, they are more subjective, it is his point of view, it's an Opinion! Everybody has the right to express their thoughts! And secondly, why the f*ck are you watching this if you don't like how the show works?!

  • LOL on the grammer lessons,the comments sections have become a breeding place for trashy losers to vent out their frustrations in life.

    Btw my only gripe is the red screen at the end-a complete eyesore :(

    Nice reviews!

  • Hey Mark! Forza 4 will have a lot of new features and super graphics. I hope that's good enough.

  • I want to learn to drive stick, so instead of buying a manual car I am going to buy this game :D

  • You Sir are the God of owning Trolls.

  • Everytime I play GT5 I get this urge to play Forza 3. And when I play Forza 3 I get an urge to play GT5.

  • @Arexion5293 Dual monitors. Problem solved ;)

  • it's better than GT5

  • i changed 3 of my consoles just for forza 3

    

  • You're fucking awesome man! :D

  • @alxcsb I totally agree. The english language is going to crap.

  • @alxcsb

    >americans

    don't generalize. i've seen plenty of europeans making the same mistake as well along with there/their/they're, then/than, and were/where.

    and then there's the crowd that doesn't give a fuck.

  • @igrenade And then there are a lot of Europeans that don't have English as their native language. Wanna start a Europe vs. America debate?

  • @alxcsb

    now why would you do a silly thing like that? compare an entire continent with a country? that says a lot about the power of america, how flattering.

    there are plenty of americans that don't have english as their native language as well. the country runs on immigrants.

  • @alxcsb They can make a difference, but they're too lazy to type "you're" so they type "your".

    P.S.: I'm from Romania too xD.

  • best review ever!

  • In the case of this review ill probably buy Forza 2, unless Forza 3 is less than 30$

  • @WarpPal its $15 at amazon

  • @DrFindro .......Well in THAT case itll be Forza 3 since I gotta FUCKIN 360 anyways, and ill play just about any racing game( I played Beetle Adventure Racing-N64 for 15 hours once) this'll be a steal for me.

  • A little to literal on the interpretations of the catch phrases on the back of the package, but ok.

  • the only reason it doesnt look as good as gt5 is because forza runs 60fps 720p

    gt5 runs 30fps 720p

    NFS: hot pursuit and shift 2 look better than both these games

  • @suffernow97 no, gt5 runs 50fps + 1080p get your facts straight.

  • @rupertacdc lol no high budget full price game runs 1080p on ps3 you fucking douche bag neither on 360

    the only games that run 1080p on ps3 and 360 are arcade games hahaha dumb ass google it

    all cod games on ps3 run 600p on ps3 in order to get 60fps

    google it before fanboying back

  • @rupertacdc i looked back on my comments and i never said that 60fps looks worse then 30 lol dumbass

  • "If your dream is driving cars in forza 3" -that's worth a like

  • listen you old bastard, we dont care about youre mum

  • GT5 is better

  • A English lesson during a game review? Never thought i would see the day! I feel so educated.

  • @SAINTspFilms An* English lesson.

  • this game is great....i got the game 2 years ago and i just got to level 50 last november and im still trying to get past year 6

  • There will always be those that can't handle someone having a different opinion. That's just the way the world works (unfortunately). Just ignore them, they don't deserve the attention.

  • the reason why i stick to fm 2 is because, i drive with steering wheel and pedals, and in fm 3 you dont see the guy shifting and the steering just isnt right, but in fm 2 you see the shifting ant it looks real when you turn the steering wheel:P

  • Wow i watched part 1 and didn't think it could get much worse, but man this guy has got to be one of the worst reviewers ever. Good job Mark at pointing out peoples' grammar mistakes to defend your position on the game, red herring is a great fallacy to use. This review is basically you arguing back at viewers which is very unprofessional and boring to listen to since I came here to hear a review on a game. The review itself was also very poorly done since you clearly don't like sim racing.

  • @MrMattinator1 he is a massive fan of Gran Turismo since the first one in 1994. Him dishing grammar lessons was his way in replying to the stupid forza fanboys who sent him mindless email and by giving them a sacastic grammar lesson has pointed to them how stupid they really are.

  • @normalguyhere 1998*

  • I like the reviews of this guy. Of course, what ever one does, there will always be nay-sayers and downers and bean counters who have something negative to say, in a way that questions their own intelligence.

    Truth is, except for the added polygons, tracks, cars, better handling, cockpit view, the reverse button and other details, Forza 3 is rather more of the same. I expected a whole lot more after Che's remark that their game architects have found ways to push the 360 in ways he didn't tho

  • what a waste of time listening to that guy...

  • Gran turismo 5 > Forza 3

  • YOU CAN NOT DRIVE DREAMS, AND EVEN IF YOU COULD THEY DIDN'T PUT DREAMS IN THE GAME!!! LOL

  • you are not an idot

  • handling in forza 3 just is similar to Need For Speed which I can call it arcade racing game.

  • The only issue is just the steering for the rest the game is sweet to play.

  • u mad?

  • this looks like GT4...

  • Mark

    You're an idiot. You are obviously a Gran Turismo fanboy judging from your review where you praise the incomplete lump of shit that is GT5. Little has changed from FM2? What about cockpit view, rewind etc...? So what is so new about GT5? 50 variations on a Skyline? NFS Shift better than FM3? Pffft you are obviously an amateur...

  • @BudzMcgr33n Calm down is just a game!

  • @BudzMcgr33n LOL...

  • @BudzMcgr33n did you even watch the video?!

  • @BudzMcgr33n and you are obviously a forza fanboy

  • @egibaio And you are obviously Mark's gay lover. BTW I am an owner of GT5 and FM3. GT5 has the worst example of waiting six years for a complete letdown. MY OPINION IS NOT UNCOMMON.

  • @BudzMcgr33n totally agree why only premium car you can drive behind the steeringwheel cam you can change rims andt stuff like that the background design suck more then forza3 no engine swap and i mean im a honda fan but you can only push a honda civic till 400 hp and no swap no vinyls and really shit bodykits and that to make it 6 years to make and then when its finish just few months later you are gonna say that the next one will be much more better so why did we wait for fucking 6 years

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  • @TheKingbrucus Sooo, they take 2 years to build a brand new engine and then include mostly PS2 cars? Riiiight. GT5 obviously runs on an enhanced GT4 engine LOL. Anyways Forza 4 looks even better than FM3 which was already better than GT5. But I'm sure in 6 years there will be GT6 to compete with (by that time) Forza 7.

  • @BudzMcgr33n mm ok first i alright know that you haven t played gt5 so if you had a 1080p hd tv which i have, a ps3 and a gt5 you would notice that gt5 has the best graphics on any racing game .. i don t have fm3 but my friend has i saw the graphics.... theyr good not better then gt5 second there will be a gt6 in 2 to 3 years counting from when gt5 lauched ..3- gt5 has alot more to do then fm3 4- the physics are the most rialistic,when you crash, its calculated the speed ,angule,direction.

  • @BudzMcgr33n 5 dont belive me about the new engine capabilitis ?? just whatch in hd gamespot review of gt5 our see a race in rain our snow our dirt in gt5

  • @BudzMcgr33n oh and i almost forgot thous "ps2 cars and thracks" are the graphics of forza 3 .... Peace

  • @TheKingbrucus Forza 3's game engine was built from the ground up for this generation. But half the tracks and 800 cars in GT5 are imported directly from PS2. Hahaha last generation, DAMN that's SAD.

  • @BudzMcgr33n well ... you alredy know gt 5 is better cuz you never say good things about forza .. thats sad... whats more sad is that the graphics haven t change since forza to forza 3. and if you didn t know in thous 5 years of making they did 2 more games gt psp,gt prologue, less time for gt5.so im done you alredy know gt5 is better so have fun playng on the same graphic engine, the same weather, the same chalenges,and same ONLY 400 cars .... have fun

  • @TheKingbrucus The critics have spoken and Forza 3 is the highest rated racing sim on consoles. So have fun with your second rate unfinished PS2 game.

  • @BudzMcgr33n holy fuck you actualy belive IGNorant .... once again like i sayed some reviewrs not all say forza is better cuz is more casual nothing else .... but this is the last time i talk to you cuz your a gt5 hater nothing else you don t try to c the other side and thats because your an xbox fanboy i ve tryed to reason whit you, i have got tro forza and gt5 bests but i don t even care anymore , just play the fucking game you want im tired to try to reason you ....peace

  • @TheKingbrucus Fuck IGN. Metacritic compiles ALL reviews from ALL publications and averages them for one definitive score and GT5 FAILED BAD. Forza 3=92. GT5=84. But you have fun playing the inferior racing game. Go ahead.

  • @BudzMcgr33n yup i play what i want btw you must be a good hater to have wasted 1h on search of that and btw im gonna play gt5 cuz ITS FOR HARDCORE GAMERS NOT CASUALS so play yours and ill play mine k . and is 84 "FAILED BAD" not even close idiot .. and do you want to know why they gave it 84 ... because they where ESPECTING A MASTER PIECE... just like duke nuken and duke should have got 6.5 not 5 its a better game then 5

  • @TheKingbrucus GT5 is for casuals with its elevator music in the menus and shit. GAY.

  • @BudzMcgr33n I DON T FUCKING CARE WHAT YOU THINK holy fuck stop sending me messages.. YOUR THE WORST HATER EVER

  • @TheKingbrucus Stop replying to me then and I won't have a reason to respond DAMN.

  • @BudzMcgr33n forza 3 interior looks like melted plastic lol, fail game is fail

  • @Maturegamer123 That's so true.

  • @Maturegamer123 Looks better than GT5, though. And it scored better too.

  • @BudzMcgr33n how can it look better when it looks like melted plastic makes no sense. and no it doesn't look better get your eyes check

  • @Maturegamer123 Dude GT5's shadows look like the outlines of Legos warping across the dashboard LOL. At least in the cars that actually have modeled interiors which is pretty rare in GT. You're just mad that Forza 3 is the highest rated driving sim on consoles, I get it.

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  • @BudzMcgr33n 6.33 million sold, forza wont beat that, and those shadows have what we call jaggies on it, a game running at 60 frps on consoles will not be perfect realize that

  • @Maturegamer123 Yeah but the 3 combined Forzas that were released in 6 years while GT5 was being produced sure beat that ;)

    And Forza 3 doesn't have jaggies on the shadows one of the reasons it outscored GT5.

  • @BudzMcgr33n I completely agree. GT5 has a HUGE letdown, and when compared to Forza 3 is nowhere near as fun. Can't wait to get my 360 fixed so I can play Forza 4

  • @chekkitProductions Well Forza 4 is out now bro so I hope you get your 360 fixed soon!

  • @BudzMcgr33n Yeah, probably going to send it in this week. I'll be keeping my eyes out for any sudden sale at gamestop on Forza 4 until then.

  • @BudzMcgr33n forza didnt even have more cars than gt3

  • @dragonballzfan41 Actually Forza 1 for the original Xbox has 231 cars and GT3 (I own the game) has 180 cars. You are pretty dumb, dude.

  • @BudzMcgr33n i ment to say gt2 has 650 in is way better than any froza game you're are pretty stupid in GT3 has 181

  • @dragonballzfan41 Hahaha In GT2 you can slam into cars in turns at full speed and bounce of them to gain position. It's like bumper car physics. 650 cars with fucked physics and no damage? Yeah it was cool in the late 90's. Forza 1 was way more realistic though.

  • @BudzMcgr33n not really lol

  • @BudzMcgr33n no shit thier i play gt4 its more fun

  • @BudzMcgr33n i think duke nukem forever takes the cake for waiting for a letdown.

  • This game has the same problem as gt5. Its an arcade. Which is a shame because it looks too good to be an unrealistic arcade.

  • @derbigpr500 What has GT5 to be considered an arcade? Youre saying this cos it has no damage? Cos if youre saying this for the damage I have to say that normally when you test cars youre not racing, and absolutely not crashing the cars...

  • @ShinigamiKyra No im not saying it because of damage, i couldnt care less about damage. GT5 is arcade because of its physics and how the cars drive. Its not a simulation like people think.

  • HAHAHAHA you said you were an idiot

  • @anishgg No he didn't. But you! have informed everyone that you're one with your uppercase hysterical laughing and playground humor. 

  • ¡CARTOONZAAA! had shift, gt5 prologue and gt5 and they are all better than this,

  • came for a review, got a grammar lesson. Lol this game is awesome but i didn't learn much from this video.

  • Great review! Love it!!!

  • 5:45 .. hes gaining on you... >.< *mirror*

  • the cars movement doesnt just right there.. just look at GT5 THE cars looks and move realisticallty

  • @rowsand gt5 is a very good game too. i have and like em both

  • lol so funny ...... loved that review .... so clever and really usefull cause i am not sure if i should get GT5 with PS3 or a XBOX 360 with Forza ...

  • your and idoit this gamei s awesoem!