sorry but i hate elizabeth right now, she made him give jake up. i knowshe is devastated right now but soo is jason and the way she treated him is sooooooooo un called for. she is just bitter that Jason didnt want to be with her. I love Lucky he is such an awesome man he deserves better then elizabeth
@helenbee99 I know everyone is enttled to their own opinions but how can you hate a women who's child was just killed? She's lashing out and Jason happened to be there. carly shold have never asked Jason in the fist olace. One, it's not his decision. Two, Josselyn isn't going to die overnight so she couldhave given everyone time to obsorb what just happend with Jake. And Three, Jason should have given Liz a moment to breathe before asking her to donate her son's organs.
@wintergirl1980 Winter, I have always respected you but I totally respect you even more for saying this. Seriously, there was a huge debate between me another poster, which I think Chyyy deleted a lot of it and rightly so because I had put that person in check and it was just really ugly, but I'm sooo glad we see eye to eye on this. I want people to realize I can disagree politely with someone with no problem and still love'em! But the lack of respect for a dead child's parents is shocking!
@Vitaluv I get that some storylines make for heated debate but, I don't understand why some people have to get so ugly. They seem to forget that GH is simply a TV show and not real life. They also seem to believe that you have to believe what they believe and if not you are wrong and deserving of their wrath. You rightfully put that person in their place. We can all agree to disagree with each other at times. That's what makes these posts so fun. Thanks for the kind words and keep posting :)
@wintergirl1980 Sorry but i have never been a Liz fan. You are right about Carly, she should have let them have time to grief before asking, she didnt even give Jason more then 2 mins to grief before asking him , that was not good. As for Liz, i understand she is grieving but so is Jason he is the bio.. dad and he gave him up to live a good and safe life. He is in just as much pain as she is, yes given he too should have waited but it is His and Liz and Luckys decision he is the bio dad
@helenbee99 I'm not a Liz fan but I totally respect what she's going through right now. She has the right to act and do as she pleases I also resepct the fact that Jason is also grieving. He did the most selfless thing by giving up his child and I understand that his feelings didn't simply turn off becauseof it BUT, Lucky and Liz are Jake's parent's and their feelings are paramount. Carly had no right to ask that at that time and neither did Jason. The decision was ultimately not Jason's.
@helenbee99 In continuation, I really respect how Lucky wanted Jason included in the decision even though, legally, it's not his decision. That just shows how gracious and kind hearted he is. I guess who I'm really mad at are the writer's for rushing this storyline. How dare they touch upon such a dramatic and heartbreakng topic only to finish it in 2 days while a mob story gets a week. Thanks for respectfully disagreeing with me. That's what makes these posts fun!!!
@wintergirl1980 I agree with you one hundred percent about Lucky, and also about the writers. I hate this storyline and even more i hate who they had as the driver of the car. It is horrible that they had to do it the way they did. . We all have our opinion and need to respect each other :) you are right that is what posting is all about. Have a great day:)
@helenbee99 I can't believe whp they chose for the driver. For a fan whose watched the show for a while I know how long it took them to get their bond back after Lucky found out about that incident at the bar. To now do this, it's horrible. I'm not sure how they can get past it. I hope you understand what I was trying to say. I didn't want to ruin the surprise for people who donlt know yet.
@wintergirl1980 All I can say is that this not how you respect Tony Geary is pretty much one of the last amazing this about GH if he is indeed leaving for good. Even though the storyline was terrible (BJ & Maxie it ain't) and the writing was below sub par, TG, JJ, Becky Herbst and yes, even Steve Burton delivered every line with heartbreaking perfection. It didn't bother me that Luke was the driver as much as that they are putting all through this drama, I believe, only to have it NOT be Luke.
@Vitaluv TG said that the writer's asked him if he was ok with being the driver and he was all for it. I guess as a actor you want to sink your teeth into material that will show your range. He can only play the uncaring drunk for so long. What I hate is that it took Lucky and Luke so long to get back their bond after Lucky found out about Laura's rape. After this I'm not sure where they can go. They can't be the way they were. Yet another family destroyed in Port Charles.
@wintergirl1980 I know what you mean i have been watching for 21 yrs and it kills me to see them wreck that relationship. I guess I am hoping in the end it will be he was framed by the unmarked car. Hopefully this storyline will give someone an Emmy,
People, don't let a piece of good acting ruin your judgment on things in real life. Sending hateful comments and stuff like that is useless. I know it may relate to some things in your personal life but while your bickering on youtube about it their driving home to their nice condos. So just fallback take a asprin and lay down somewhere
Man, I haven't watched GH in a few months, and then I was reading Jason's Wikipedia today and the last section is "Jake's Death" and I was like, "WHAT!?" I immediately came to YouTube and started watching from the 18th on. I can't believe Jake died.
@chyyyone for the love of God please block that Paisley freak. I do no mind a healthy debate but this loser has attacked me over comments that I didn't even make or allude to. And even after I told her to let it go, she is still running her mouth, and still PMing me. You put these videos up here for all the enjoy, but seriously, she is making this such an unpleasant experience. She is hateful and intolerant, and no one should have to put up with that.
I want to slap Elizabeth! I get that she lost her kid and she is REALLY upset but Jason LOVED Jake and that was a low blow. Jake cant be saved so Elizabeth should let him save other kids lives!
OMG that was so sad!! i totally understand why liz was upset.. when she said your not gonna use my son for spare parts it hit home.. she still sees her son as her son.. i love carly but dang her and jax are being so un-sympathetic.. i see why they are scared but thats another persons kid.. what if it was the other way around.
@ninasgem That isn't their kid any more, though. He's dead. Should their child die too because Liz is being selfish? I understand her being upset, but the reality is that whether she donates or not, Jake is DEAD. Letting his organs rot with him, and allowing Jocelyn to die in the process, is about as selfish as you can be.
@alice4au Do some research & you'll find that there are many people out there who don't have a day to wait. Why should organs a person will never need not be gifted to another who could use them? A woman I know thro mutual guide dog sch donated her DH's organs & while he wasn't a match to give her back her sight, he did restore the sight of another as well as gave life 2 even more. His wife has no regrets & is thankful someone was able to see using his corneas.
@alice4au More people on the transplant list die every day w/o available organs most often out of sheer ignorance of the public view of transplantation process. It's sad. If DH's heart failed the surgery, he'd been brain dead & I'd signed the papers to donate. UNOS won't approve a retrieval w/o specific guidelines met & Jake met them. Waiting 1 day would cost many lives they'd otherwise had;organs aren't needed once a person passes away. It's the greatest gift/legacy to leave behind: 2nd chance.
@jespeach It is completely out of line to call someone selfish if they decide or don't decide right away to give their children's organs away. IT is wrong to try to guilt trip or look down on someone for having a knee jerk reaction their child's death. In the end Liz agreed. I am taking my name off the donation list on my DL. I'm afraid doctors hacking into people believe in these guilt tactics and they might not even work hard to save me knowing someone needs organs. Fucked up
@Vitaluv Carly went to Jake's FATHER. Whether or not Jason allowed Lucky to raise him, he was his father nonetheless. Also that last part you wrote is the most uninformed, ignorant comment I've seen yet, and I have no respect for your intelligence whatsoever if you truly believe that.
@jespeach Secondly, it was not wrong for Carly to recognize Jason as the father, it was wrong for Carly to ask Jason when he had no say. She should have just supported him FOR ONCE without asking for anything the way he's done for her countless of times. I don't give a fuck about disagreeing, but I do have a problem with people preaching to me over comments I neither made to begin with. I said nothing of this woman's family, she spoke ignorantly of mine. If you can't take the heat oh well.
You people are fricken amazing. Who cares whether Elizabeth knows the score when it comes to chemo & children. She just lost her child and didn't even have time to grieveor come to terms with that loss before asking to donate his organs? Give it up on the Elizabeth hate over this because until you have lost a child you have no right to judge.
@chyyyone Time is of the essence with organ donation. They do NOT have time to wait for the grieving process. This is why people are asked to think of these things ahead of time. This is reality, sad to say. This is how it happens IN REAL LIFE. Also, her b.s. about blaming Jason is a boatload of LIES.
@jespeach I agree completely. DH & I had that discussion a long time ago, then again 20yrs ago & again a little ovr 10yrs ago when I learned I had Lupus (SLE)/Sjogrens. We even spoke w/my drs to find out if it was possible & the responses all come down to slim & none b/c of the autoimmune diseases damages. Our oldest, who @ 16 asked if we'd abide by her CHOICE to be a donor on her drivers license was truly amazing. She had the same conversation w/her new DH as her dad/me had couple x's re: donor
@jespeach con't In REAL LIFE, as you said, it's a decision that's got to be made as quick as possible b/c lives R on the line. A DH of a cousin has a kidney b/c of transplant as did DH's best friend from HS & college. He only survived a few extra yrs but they R precious yrs w/his family, esp his little girls. DH, our oldest daughter, her DH, & I have all the info & intentions when/if the situation arises. GH should've had UNOS rep; they didn't but Joss got kidney; what of other organs 4 donation
@jespeach And finally, 4 Chyyone, I'm glad U put these up; hwr, I've come close to having to make that decision in 09 when a cardio-thoracic surgeon told me he couldn't guarantee my DH would make it off the table after suffering 2 heart attacks & a stroke req'g a quad bypass. IF he hadn't made it, I'd signed the form, no ?s asked. I'd hurt; I'd mourn, but I'd also know others would live &/or see b/c of that gift of life-lives considering his lungs, liver, skin, bone-all healthy. No regrets.
@chyyyone They did that shit with my when my mother died. I had to make a decision whether to donate her organs. For religious reasons my mother did not want her organs given away and though I don't really agree with that I was already going to respect her wishes, but those ass holes at the hospital attacked me not five minutes after I pulled the plug and I said to them, if I see what fucking cut on my mother's body I will sue. People need to learn that just because your kid needs an organ
@Vitaluv does NOT mean you have the right to tell me when I should let go of mine. Seriously. Respect for the dead is just out of control. Chyyy, you hardly ever come out to play but when you do, you always bring common sense to the fold. And I don't even like Elizabeth and I was completely on her side. She's a good person and would have come around. But damn give her a minute. A FUCKING MINUTE. If Josslyn didn't have a minute well that sucks, but that WAS HER SON! People are TRIPPING.
@chyyyone Don't worry about these people. I love how they believe they're entitled to step over a mother's grief and rip her child's body apart when she hasn't had a second to process it. And I'm saying this as someone who doesn't consider herself a Liz fan. She is allowed to have time, his death doesn't stop him from being her son, and everybody can damn well respect that. In the end, she saved the life of Carly's daughter and got no credit (Carly keeps talking about Jason saving Joss' life)!
@cheetahinireland18 Exactly which shows you how this country is fucked up in their type of thinking we are so used to getting what we want when we want we don't think about what other people might be feeling or what their beliefs are. Organ donation is important, but like I said, no one is going to sit there and try to make me feel bad for honoring a most beloved family member's wishes or needing a minute to grieve for my child. The McDonaldlization of dead folk. Disgusting.
@chyyyone Yeah, nobody should have asked Elizabeth. It's not bad enough he's dead, then Carly wants his parts. And yet, I can see it from Carly's POV, too... though she pisses me off more. She finds out her BF's son is dead, and in the same minute, she goes to look for Jason to ask for his parts.
@chyyyone But the thing that pissed me off most Liz saying Jason was never a father to Jake. I mean, SHE is the one who pushed him into giving Jake up, and yet everytime Jake was kidnapped or in trouble, Jason hopped to it and did everything in his power to help him, whereas all Liz did was accuse and cry. Liz had no right.
Can we stop with the back & forth crap please. I get it Liason fans & Jasam fans will NEVER see things the same way so why fricken argue about it ok? All I ask is that you respect ME since I'm the one clipping and remember that I am a Liason fan which means I like Jason & Elizabeth.
@theoriginalgazelle - cont'd breast cancer combined w/2 autoimmune diseases & the damage caused in 10+yrs, which is extensive, is dangerous as I don't do well w/anesthesia. If 1 of the 6 cysts remaining b/c cancerous my treatment won't stop @ surgery; I'll have to undergo chemo/radiation to ensure all the cancer is eradicated b/c I'm already on borrowed time; lupus (sle)/Sjogren's have caused considerable damage so if cancer shows up it has 2 B hit hard to kill it but w/o killing me in process.
@theoriginalgazelle I've done my homework on chemo/radiation treatments. It's not pretty. Cancer runs in my family & for the last 3+yrs I've undergone mammograms/ultrasounds for cysts; 2 were removed 5days after my oldest daughter's wedding. My clinical exam 3/23 was to give surgeon info for more tests & I may have to go back under again, this time on the lft & it could incl losing a large chunk of breast tissue & hoping it's not cancerous. The 2 b4 were benign but luck runs out.
1) What's so bad with killing off a child in fantasy? How many children die everyday in real life from starvation, poor access to clean drinking water, or something equally or less dramatic than what happens in a SOAP OPERA?
2) Loved Liz smacking Jason - was definitely a bit much, but still can't believe how bold he's being. Joycelyn can do a round of chemo, allow Liz to take a breath and realize she can save another life. Carly's still a mega bitch for asking everyone but Liz for the organ.
@TheOriginalGazelle I hope you have actually done the research on chemo; what it is; how it works; & the toll it takes on an adult let alone a child... B/c the last thing a baby of that size/age needs is chemo if there are other options. Chemo kills the immune system; it kills both good cells & bad cells in the attempts to kill the cancer. It's like tearing down ur house to replace some of the plumbing you can change by crawling underneath instead! Geez ignorance must B bliss!
I hate it when the writers kill off children. I do not remember however I remember bits and pieces of BJ's death and the organ transplant. I hate that Jake is now on life support and will soon die. I loved the fact that Lucky thanked Jason for Jake. Elizabeth is mourning Jake and of course she is going to hell at Jason for asking for the kidney. I cannot blame her however another child is going to die without the kidney and that is not fair either.
They just found out the baby had cancer, about the same time Jake is declared brain dead. They don't just automatically do a transplant like that. Elizabeth is grieving her little boy is dead, she can react that way if she wants. It should not have been Jason who asked it should have been a doctor. Talking to both Lucky and Elizabeth. And yes, if something were to happen to my son I would donate his organs. I am a donor as well.
Liz is a doctor, i thought she would be all for the organ donor stuff. Liz is grieving but if Jake is in fact the only hope for Josslyn, then you might as well help another child. Dont make Jake die in a bad way like the writings have tried to and I do not think that the writers even know if it was either Liz or Jason that said Jake was better off as Luckys. lol at different points they both have said it
@doodleXmonster1 Liz isn't a doctor; she's a nurse but regardless, she's been in the medical profession long enough to know the score when it comes to drowning a child's body by IV with chemo along w/the dangers of using chemo on a child that young.
Never thought I would say this but team fucking Lizabitch. Her son just died and it should not have been Jason to approach her. Carly, for whatever the case may be between those two, shoud have been the grown woman she claims to be and asked Elizabeth herself and not put fucking Jason in the middle of that shit. It's what I've been saying all along. Liz is just in reaction mode right now. If you have children of your own you should understand.
@Vitaluv I AM A MOM OF 2 KIDS & I'd NEVER ACT THAT WAY! My oldest @ 16yo asked if her dad & I would abide by her wishes for her to mark organ donor on her drivers license! We promised. She made her new DH promise the same b4 they were engaged then again b4 they married. I've had too many family members on transplant lists to act as bitchy & unfeeling as Liz did toward Jason. The kidney isn't for Carly to survive. It's for Josslyn, an innocent child in need & can't control who her parents are!
@Vitaluv Ur acting as if all should HATE Josslyn b/c her mom's Carly & that's wrong. What if someone refused U an organ b/c of your parent, spouse, etc? It's wrong & if you can't see it, then you should never have children & you'd do well to buy stock in growing organs b/c U might need an organ one day & if someone doesn't like U b/c of Ur family that'll be Ur only hope of survival.
@PaisleyPlace I have had enough with you okay. Seriously. I don't give a fuck abut your experiences or your sitting in a hospital or whatever. It's you who don't give a fuck about people who are grieving. Sick child or not, or whatever those organ don't belong to you! And you don't get a claim on them sweetie. It is the right of that person or the parent to make that decision. And it SHOULD be respected when they tell you to back the fuck off. The problem is YOU are one sided. Not me. I
@Vitaluv already stated I didn't think it would be that unreasonable for Carly as a mom to another mother to approach Liz on some serious type stuff and ask in person if she would consider giving Jake's organs to Joss. I understood both sides. But you are so caught up in your own experience you don't see the other side. Everyone does not believe in what you believe in and you don't have the right to try and judge someone for it.
@Vitaluv It shouldn't have been either of them. It should have been the doctors. For me Jason going to Elizabeth right after they find out about Jake ranks right up in cold heartedness to her asking him to give Jake up right after Alan died. I hate this show and how they are making Jakes death about Carly, just like everything is about Carly.
@Vitaluv I have children of my own. It seems you are the one whose thinking one-sided; there's plenty of us here, including myself, who are the ones seeing the WHOLE PICTURE while you just stick your head in the sand and pretend you see it all when you don't. You'd let others die from organs that will turn to dust rather than have that person live on in others - now who's selfish? We've discussed organ donation & it's something we believe in b/c like MONEY, YOU CAN'T TAKE IT WITH YOU!
@PaisleyPlace You are blind. You did not even read anything I said. You just went on a rant about how much holier you are than everyone else because everyone's organs obviously are not their property to do what they will. You believe that when a person dies their shit is just up for grabs like some meat fucking market. That is disgusting. The WHOLE PICTURE means seeing everyone's side and taking it all into account and going from there. A lot of people DON'T agree with you. You look like an ass.
And to add you would think that Lucky would be supportive of agreeing to donate Jake's kidneys to Josslyn considering the fact that Josslyn is Luckys cousin.
Grieving or not Elizabeth was wrong for what she said and did to Jason. If i can remember correctly Jason even proposed to Elizabeth. With no question Jason wanted to be more involved in Jake's life, but Jason lives a risky life. As much as he wanted to be with Elizabeth, he couldn't because of how dangerous his life is, and he didn't want to bring that danger to Elizabeth and her kids. BOTH Jason and Elizabeth agreed that Lucky not Jason would raise Jake as his own son.
@themavsfan1992 She is NOT wrong. At every obstacle Jason has said he can't be in Jakes life. DO NOT re-write history. She gave him a choice after Emily and Georgie died he re-iterated to her "life is too dangerous and Zacarah goes after famiies. I can't have Jake in danger". HIS decisions NOT hers
@mkfraz No they are not...there no blood relation between Jake and Josslyn. Neither Elizabeth nor Jason are related to Carly. Now if Lucky were Jakes bio dad then yes they would be cousines.
@weezie422 Either way, they can be a match. The donors who gave my cousin's DH a kidney & my DH's best friend a pancreas & kidney were not blood related. MOF, we believe someone who was in the 9/11 aftermath could be my CIL's donor b/c his kidney b/c available shortly after 9/11. But, in both cases, the donors wanted to remain anonymous; hwr, both families sent letters of thanks & sympathies for their losses & they replied w/heartfelt letters w/best wishes for a long healthy life for each family
@PaisleyPlace I know someone doesn't have to be a blood donor I was just clarifying that they were not cousins. Although the whole being matched in less then half a day is a bunch of bull. Not to mention she was just diagnosed...they would never do that and GH should try to be a bit more realistic. But then they had Carly, who has always treated Elizabeth like crap, thinking she could demand one of Jakes kidneys. And Jason actually once again putting Carly first and asking...this show sucks.
@weezie422 Actually, a match can be made extremely quick if the facility has a decent lab. Organs from patients on life support are only viable for a short period of time; it's why in these cases a person from the transplant dept comes to talk to the family about donation b/c there's a small window of time; it gets even smaller once the organs are removed.
@weezie422 If it weren't for the 2 autoimmune diseases I have or the retinal disease, I could donate to virtually anyone; hwr, if I needed & could even go on a transplant list, it'd be difficult b/c of my blood type but it doesn't matter b/c the autoimmunes will damage my organs beyond donation unless/? I go in an accident of some sort but there's still the ? of the autoimmune diseases & damage they caused & will cause as the diseases work plus the fact I have no viable immune system. It's toast
I don't blame her for the slap. I don't even blame her for the misguided logic about Jason "not wanting to be a father" or "not wanting to be with her". She's clearly grieving and has the right to express her mind, right or wrong.
That said, she's wrong with those comments. She asked Jason to give him up. Even when Jason had second thoughts, Michael got shot and that got him to back off. Jason would have married Liz if Michael didn't get shot.
the reason why the organ was a match is simple. Its not jake that was hit by a car. It was jerry's kid and jake was kidnap. Jakey still lives. I am really holding out that is was a mistaken identity.
ok, Elizabeth I know that you are greifing but Jason as a self Bastard? really Elizabeth? all he was asked you that you have a chance to save another patient another child's that's all he wanted to do he didn't do anything wrong and if I remember correctly you asked Jason to walk away and give up Jake to protect Jake and give him a good life. and you refused to married Jason more then once you refused!! I need sam to be there for Jason. since Jason needs it.
for Jasont to step up and claim Jake so Jake could have his father. JASON always backed out until he finally tormented her with visions of how Jake coudl have died during the second kidnapping to make her give up. SPin it anyway you want but in the end it was JASON"S decision not Elizabeths
@chookfeather Liz made it plain she couldn't live in "his" world & since then, she's run btw Lucky & Nic, got pregnant again, blew her marriage to Lucky up, burned her bridge w/Nic & now she wants to play the grieving Mom after letting her kid run off b/c she was too engrossed in a DNA test that could force Lucky back in her life after he's moved on? I dont think so. Liz isn't the prima dona she thinks she is. I'm thinking Jake'd been safer w/Sam & Jason. I'm thinking Liz needs a tubal ligation.
@PaisleyPlace Garbage..She's been int he Mob life from the day she found him lying in the snow. She has always been apart of it in one form or another. She has been shot, kidnapped and almost blown up. Did she want danger for her boys in the beginning NO. But fromt he time of Alcazar's trial she has asked and begged fro Jason to be a part of Jake;s life. EVERYTIME he has said it's too dangerous. EVERYTIME he'd say YES, soemthing would happen and he'd back out. Until second kidnhapping and he
@PaisleyPlace Garbage..He said NO. HE laid down the rules. Never contact me. Jake can never know me. Yada yada. So 1) get your timeline right because she got engaged to Lucky and fooled around with NIk AFTER begging for Jason to be a part of his sons life for nearly 2years. 2) Don't just listent to what haters say watch the history because Lucky/Nik stuff lasted all of 5months until she found out she was pregnant with baby pointless. She isn't PLAYING the grievign mother she IS the grieving mom
@chookfeather He agreed to let her & Lucky raise Jake BECAUSE LIZ SAID SHE COULD NOT LIVE IN HIS WORLD! Afterward, Liz whimpered & whined then caught Lucky's attn again, that poor fool just gets duped by her each time...., so Jason did what was best; HOWEVER, LIZ NEVER HAD A PROBLEM GIVING PICTURES OR LETTING JASON HOLD JAKE - EVEN IN PUBLIC FOR ALL TO SEE! Sure, the kid that played Jake was an actor but he'd easily pass for Jason (real actor's) son! References to Jake's fearlessness been made 2
@PaisleyPlace Look I get Jasam fans and Sam fans make up dialogue to suit there agenda and the special feed they get. She said his life is too dangerous for "HER BOYS" not HER. Replying with bs hater agenda about whining blah blah doesn't make you right. THE FACTS ARE that Elizabeth started the "Jake would be safer" garbage but JASON perfected it. End of story End of discussion.
Listen up morons who are putting Elizabeth down. Elizabeth asked Jason to step aside and let Lucky be the father...he agreed she didn't hold him down and force him or blackmail him. She did it at a time when she was trying to do what was right for everyone. Lucky Jason Sam - though why she would do anything considering what a lying baby terrorizing bitch she turned out to be - but like anyone who makes a mistake Elizabeth realized her error and wanted and asked on more than one occasion
There is no appropriate or inappropriate when you lose a child there is only grief and more grief, NO ONE should be so negative about Elizabeth for her response. She is insane with grief there is no right or wrong she is in hell. She lashed out at the closest thing. All those who criticized her response have never lost a child. I am shocked that anyone feels they have the right to criticize anyone's response to anything on the day they lost a child
"we can make jake's life mean something." jason means "jakes' death." but give him credit, even though he's a braindead moron, he did managed to talk in complete sentences once or twice in this episode.
better because like i said she did want him to give him up. but she realized it was wrong. and she wanted to be with him with the boys. but no then jason says its too dangerous..........so he left them. his choice. in the end it was his choice..........
Well THAT was the most hypocritical thing Elizabeth has ever done. I can't BELIEVE she said that, grieving or not. I usually like Elizabeth, but that was WAYYY over the line!! Poor Jason. :( He didn't give Jake up... he did it because Elizabeth wanted him to!
GRIEF. For the love of mike, people. Ok, it is fake life, but really. Does it occur to anyone that Elizabeth might have wanted Jason? I don't know the history, as I was off GH at the time, but it always seemed that Elizabeth and Jason had a connection. Maybe she would have wanted him to fight for her? Either way, I get the slap. Lucky is right, jason was a great father, by giving him up.
thank god for lucky. after elizabeth's unforgettably harsh words, lucky said exactly what jason deserved to hear. i couldn't believe elizabeth could have the audacity to call jason selfish after what he did for her and for jake.
@trio1266 Sam accepts Jason for who he is and Liz always pushes men away then begs them to come back. She actually begged Jason to let lucky be his father. Yes I saw it and remember it well.
I can't believe how many are putting down Elizabeth for what she said her son had just died and there was Jason wanting to cut him open. She was not ready to let go yet. If you have not had one of your kids die then you will never know how she feels.
dont tell jason that he doesnt have a whole in his heart. cuz he does. even more so because you only got to know and hold his son 8 times. all to please your selfish self. brooklyn said the words: your disgusting.
-but i do understand that the moment jason asked you for his sons organs for josslyn was untimed and inappropriate. however it would have been basically the same thing b/c the doctors who you call colleagues who have asked you the same thing in regards to jakes like.
him from the mob life. jake is equally in danger being in luckys life and in jasons. lucky's unsafe even more because he has a long list of people he put away and has to wait for legality issues to find out who whereas jason takes care of the ppl who are bothering him immediately. jason loves jake. its not his fault you lied and cheated. had to cover your tracks so that you could crawl back into luckys, nikolas bed. and even after jake was born, you kept coming back for more from jason. so no
Thank you Nikolas, for all but kicking Luke squarely in the ass! I've been screaming since Friday about what a coward Luke has been to bail on Lucky like that. I couldn't believe that Tracy let him get away with it yesterday. I know his never been a cadidate for Father of the Year, but it's been inexcusable for him to abandon Lucky like that!"
u guys r so dumb. if u even watch gh correctly u would know that jason did choose the mob life over her and the boys. yeah there was a time when liz was scared about s life and told him to step aside. but then she realize she loved him and fought for him. they were gonna get married before michael got shot. then jason broke it off. i just dont get why he is with sam then. isnt sam in danger too then!
@trio1226 But Spam is a "tough girl" who has been in and out of trouble her whole life. She understands and respects the game in a way that Liz could never. I think that was the point of it all.
omg lucky and jason are killing me, they deserve emmy's!
sibz2dahizzi 10 months ago
sorry but i hate elizabeth right now, she made him give jake up. i knowshe is devastated right now but soo is jason and the way she treated him is sooooooooo un called for. she is just bitter that Jason didnt want to be with her. I love Lucky he is such an awesome man he deserves better then elizabeth
helenbee99 11 months ago
@helenbee99 I know everyone is enttled to their own opinions but how can you hate a women who's child was just killed? She's lashing out and Jason happened to be there. carly shold have never asked Jason in the fist olace. One, it's not his decision. Two, Josselyn isn't going to die overnight so she couldhave given everyone time to obsorb what just happend with Jake. And Three, Jason should have given Liz a moment to breathe before asking her to donate her son's organs.
wintergirl1980 11 months ago
@wintergirl1980 Winter, I have always respected you but I totally respect you even more for saying this. Seriously, there was a huge debate between me another poster, which I think Chyyy deleted a lot of it and rightly so because I had put that person in check and it was just really ugly, but I'm sooo glad we see eye to eye on this. I want people to realize I can disagree politely with someone with no problem and still love'em! But the lack of respect for a dead child's parents is shocking!
Vitaluv 11 months ago
@Vitaluv I get that some storylines make for heated debate but, I don't understand why some people have to get so ugly. They seem to forget that GH is simply a TV show and not real life. They also seem to believe that you have to believe what they believe and if not you are wrong and deserving of their wrath. You rightfully put that person in their place. We can all agree to disagree with each other at times. That's what makes these posts so fun. Thanks for the kind words and keep posting :)
wintergirl1980 11 months ago
@wintergirl1980 Sorry but i have never been a Liz fan. You are right about Carly, she should have let them have time to grief before asking, she didnt even give Jason more then 2 mins to grief before asking him , that was not good. As for Liz, i understand she is grieving but so is Jason he is the bio.. dad and he gave him up to live a good and safe life. He is in just as much pain as she is, yes given he too should have waited but it is His and Liz and Luckys decision he is the bio dad
helenbee99 11 months ago
@helenbee99 I'm not a Liz fan but I totally respect what she's going through right now. She has the right to act and do as she pleases I also resepct the fact that Jason is also grieving. He did the most selfless thing by giving up his child and I understand that his feelings didn't simply turn off becauseof it BUT, Lucky and Liz are Jake's parent's and their feelings are paramount. Carly had no right to ask that at that time and neither did Jason. The decision was ultimately not Jason's.
wintergirl1980 11 months ago
@helenbee99 In continuation, I really respect how Lucky wanted Jason included in the decision even though, legally, it's not his decision. That just shows how gracious and kind hearted he is. I guess who I'm really mad at are the writer's for rushing this storyline. How dare they touch upon such a dramatic and heartbreakng topic only to finish it in 2 days while a mob story gets a week. Thanks for respectfully disagreeing with me. That's what makes these posts fun!!!
wintergirl1980 11 months ago
@wintergirl1980 I agree with you one hundred percent about Lucky, and also about the writers. I hate this storyline and even more i hate who they had as the driver of the car. It is horrible that they had to do it the way they did. . We all have our opinion and need to respect each other :) you are right that is what posting is all about. Have a great day:)
helenbee99 11 months ago
@helenbee99 I can't believe whp they chose for the driver. For a fan whose watched the show for a while I know how long it took them to get their bond back after Lucky found out about that incident at the bar. To now do this, it's horrible. I'm not sure how they can get past it. I hope you understand what I was trying to say. I didn't want to ruin the surprise for people who donlt know yet.
wintergirl1980 11 months ago
@wintergirl1980 All I can say is that this not how you respect Tony Geary is pretty much one of the last amazing this about GH if he is indeed leaving for good. Even though the storyline was terrible (BJ & Maxie it ain't) and the writing was below sub par, TG, JJ, Becky Herbst and yes, even Steve Burton delivered every line with heartbreaking perfection. It didn't bother me that Luke was the driver as much as that they are putting all through this drama, I believe, only to have it NOT be Luke.
Vitaluv 11 months ago
@Vitaluv TG said that the writer's asked him if he was ok with being the driver and he was all for it. I guess as a actor you want to sink your teeth into material that will show your range. He can only play the uncaring drunk for so long. What I hate is that it took Lucky and Luke so long to get back their bond after Lucky found out about Laura's rape. After this I'm not sure where they can go. They can't be the way they were. Yet another family destroyed in Port Charles.
wintergirl1980 11 months ago
@wintergirl1980 Agreed.
Vitaluv 11 months ago
@wintergirl1980 I know what you mean i have been watching for 21 yrs and it kills me to see them wreck that relationship. I guess I am hoping in the end it will be he was framed by the unmarked car. Hopefully this storyline will give someone an Emmy,
helenbee99 11 months ago
People, don't let a piece of good acting ruin your judgment on things in real life. Sending hateful comments and stuff like that is useless. I know it may relate to some things in your personal life but while your bickering on youtube about it their driving home to their nice condos. So just fallback take a asprin and lay down somewhere
fernrock123 11 months ago
Man, I haven't watched GH in a few months, and then I was reading Jason's Wikipedia today and the last section is "Jake's Death" and I was like, "WHAT!?" I immediately came to YouTube and started watching from the 18th on. I can't believe Jake died.
never2saygoodbi 11 months ago
so much for character driven... the acting is superb though
ranger13 11 months ago
@chyyyone for the love of God please block that Paisley freak. I do no mind a healthy debate but this loser has attacked me over comments that I didn't even make or allude to. And even after I told her to let it go, she is still running her mouth, and still PMing me. You put these videos up here for all the enjoy, but seriously, she is making this such an unpleasant experience. She is hateful and intolerant, and no one should have to put up with that.
Vitaluv 11 months ago
I want to slap Elizabeth! I get that she lost her kid and she is REALLY upset but Jason LOVED Jake and that was a low blow. Jake cant be saved so Elizabeth should let him save other kids lives!
remixthenoise1 11 months ago
and that is why I love Lucky! thank you for not being a jerk! *cough* ELIZABETH *cough*
remixthenoise1 11 months ago
OMG that was so sad!! i totally understand why liz was upset.. when she said your not gonna use my son for spare parts it hit home.. she still sees her son as her son.. i love carly but dang her and jax are being so un-sympathetic.. i see why they are scared but thats another persons kid.. what if it was the other way around.
ninasgem 11 months ago
@ninasgem That isn't their kid any more, though. He's dead. Should their child die too because Liz is being selfish? I understand her being upset, but the reality is that whether she donates or not, Jake is DEAD. Letting his organs rot with him, and allowing Jocelyn to die in the process, is about as selfish as you can be.
jespeach 11 months ago
@jespeach True but Carly could've waited a least a day to ask
alice4au 11 months ago
@alice4au Do some research & you'll find that there are many people out there who don't have a day to wait. Why should organs a person will never need not be gifted to another who could use them? A woman I know thro mutual guide dog sch donated her DH's organs & while he wasn't a match to give her back her sight, he did restore the sight of another as well as gave life 2 even more. His wife has no regrets & is thankful someone was able to see using his corneas.
PaisleyPlace 11 months ago
@alice4au More people on the transplant list die every day w/o available organs most often out of sheer ignorance of the public view of transplantation process. It's sad. If DH's heart failed the surgery, he'd been brain dead & I'd signed the papers to donate. UNOS won't approve a retrieval w/o specific guidelines met & Jake met them. Waiting 1 day would cost many lives they'd otherwise had;organs aren't needed once a person passes away. It's the greatest gift/legacy to leave behind: 2nd chance.
PaisleyPlace 11 months ago
@jespeach It is completely out of line to call someone selfish if they decide or don't decide right away to give their children's organs away. IT is wrong to try to guilt trip or look down on someone for having a knee jerk reaction their child's death. In the end Liz agreed. I am taking my name off the donation list on my DL. I'm afraid doctors hacking into people believe in these guilt tactics and they might not even work hard to save me knowing someone needs organs. Fucked up
Vitaluv 11 months ago 2
@Vitaluv Carly went to Jake's FATHER. Whether or not Jason allowed Lucky to raise him, he was his father nonetheless. Also that last part you wrote is the most uninformed, ignorant comment I've seen yet, and I have no respect for your intelligence whatsoever if you truly believe that.
jespeach 11 months ago
@jespeach Secondly, it was not wrong for Carly to recognize Jason as the father, it was wrong for Carly to ask Jason when he had no say. She should have just supported him FOR ONCE without asking for anything the way he's done for her countless of times. I don't give a fuck about disagreeing, but I do have a problem with people preaching to me over comments I neither made to begin with. I said nothing of this woman's family, she spoke ignorantly of mine. If you can't take the heat oh well.
Vitaluv 11 months ago
You people are fricken amazing. Who cares whether Elizabeth knows the score when it comes to chemo & children. She just lost her child and didn't even have time to grieveor come to terms with that loss before asking to donate his organs? Give it up on the Elizabeth hate over this because until you have lost a child you have no right to judge.
chyyyone 11 months ago 6
@chyyyone Time is of the essence with organ donation. They do NOT have time to wait for the grieving process. This is why people are asked to think of these things ahead of time. This is reality, sad to say. This is how it happens IN REAL LIFE. Also, her b.s. about blaming Jason is a boatload of LIES.
jespeach 11 months ago
@jespeach I agree completely. DH & I had that discussion a long time ago, then again 20yrs ago & again a little ovr 10yrs ago when I learned I had Lupus (SLE)/Sjogrens. We even spoke w/my drs to find out if it was possible & the responses all come down to slim & none b/c of the autoimmune diseases damages. Our oldest, who @ 16 asked if we'd abide by her CHOICE to be a donor on her drivers license was truly amazing. She had the same conversation w/her new DH as her dad/me had couple x's re: donor
PaisleyPlace 11 months ago
@jespeach con't In REAL LIFE, as you said, it's a decision that's got to be made as quick as possible b/c lives R on the line. A DH of a cousin has a kidney b/c of transplant as did DH's best friend from HS & college. He only survived a few extra yrs but they R precious yrs w/his family, esp his little girls. DH, our oldest daughter, her DH, & I have all the info & intentions when/if the situation arises. GH should've had UNOS rep; they didn't but Joss got kidney; what of other organs 4 donation
PaisleyPlace 11 months ago
@jespeach And finally, 4 Chyyone, I'm glad U put these up; hwr, I've come close to having to make that decision in 09 when a cardio-thoracic surgeon told me he couldn't guarantee my DH would make it off the table after suffering 2 heart attacks & a stroke req'g a quad bypass. IF he hadn't made it, I'd signed the form, no ?s asked. I'd hurt; I'd mourn, but I'd also know others would live &/or see b/c of that gift of life-lives considering his lungs, liver, skin, bone-all healthy. No regrets.
PaisleyPlace 11 months ago
@chyyyone They did that shit with my when my mother died. I had to make a decision whether to donate her organs. For religious reasons my mother did not want her organs given away and though I don't really agree with that I was already going to respect her wishes, but those ass holes at the hospital attacked me not five minutes after I pulled the plug and I said to them, if I see what fucking cut on my mother's body I will sue. People need to learn that just because your kid needs an organ
Vitaluv 11 months ago
@Vitaluv does NOT mean you have the right to tell me when I should let go of mine. Seriously. Respect for the dead is just out of control. Chyyy, you hardly ever come out to play but when you do, you always bring common sense to the fold. And I don't even like Elizabeth and I was completely on her side. She's a good person and would have come around. But damn give her a minute. A FUCKING MINUTE. If Josslyn didn't have a minute well that sucks, but that WAS HER SON! People are TRIPPING.
Vitaluv 11 months ago
@chyyyone Don't worry about these people. I love how they believe they're entitled to step over a mother's grief and rip her child's body apart when she hasn't had a second to process it. And I'm saying this as someone who doesn't consider herself a Liz fan. She is allowed to have time, his death doesn't stop him from being her son, and everybody can damn well respect that. In the end, she saved the life of Carly's daughter and got no credit (Carly keeps talking about Jason saving Joss' life)!
cheetahinireland18 11 months ago 3
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Vitaluv 11 months ago
@cheetahinireland18 Exactly which shows you how this country is fucked up in their type of thinking we are so used to getting what we want when we want we don't think about what other people might be feeling or what their beliefs are. Organ donation is important, but like I said, no one is going to sit there and try to make me feel bad for honoring a most beloved family member's wishes or needing a minute to grieve for my child. The McDonaldlization of dead folk. Disgusting.
Vitaluv 11 months ago
@chyyyone Yeah, nobody should have asked Elizabeth. It's not bad enough he's dead, then Carly wants his parts. And yet, I can see it from Carly's POV, too... though she pisses me off more. She finds out her BF's son is dead, and in the same minute, she goes to look for Jason to ask for his parts.
never2saygoodbi 11 months ago
@chyyyone But the thing that pissed me off most Liz saying Jason was never a father to Jake. I mean, SHE is the one who pushed him into giving Jake up, and yet everytime Jake was kidnapped or in trouble, Jason hopped to it and did everything in his power to help him, whereas all Liz did was accuse and cry. Liz had no right.
never2saygoodbi 11 months ago
Can we stop with the back & forth crap please. I get it Liason fans & Jasam fans will NEVER see things the same way so why fricken argue about it ok? All I ask is that you respect ME since I'm the one clipping and remember that I am a Liason fan which means I like Jason & Elizabeth.
chyyyone 11 months ago 5
@theoriginalgazelle - cont'd breast cancer combined w/2 autoimmune diseases & the damage caused in 10+yrs, which is extensive, is dangerous as I don't do well w/anesthesia. If 1 of the 6 cysts remaining b/c cancerous my treatment won't stop @ surgery; I'll have to undergo chemo/radiation to ensure all the cancer is eradicated b/c I'm already on borrowed time; lupus (sle)/Sjogren's have caused considerable damage so if cancer shows up it has 2 B hit hard to kill it but w/o killing me in process.
PaisleyPlace 11 months ago
@theoriginalgazelle I've done my homework on chemo/radiation treatments. It's not pretty. Cancer runs in my family & for the last 3+yrs I've undergone mammograms/ultrasounds for cysts; 2 were removed 5days after my oldest daughter's wedding. My clinical exam 3/23 was to give surgeon info for more tests & I may have to go back under again, this time on the lft & it could incl losing a large chunk of breast tissue & hoping it's not cancerous. The 2 b4 were benign but luck runs out.
PaisleyPlace 11 months ago
1) What's so bad with killing off a child in fantasy? How many children die everyday in real life from starvation, poor access to clean drinking water, or something equally or less dramatic than what happens in a SOAP OPERA?
2) Loved Liz smacking Jason - was definitely a bit much, but still can't believe how bold he's being. Joycelyn can do a round of chemo, allow Liz to take a breath and realize she can save another life. Carly's still a mega bitch for asking everyone but Liz for the organ.
TheOriginalGazelle 11 months ago
@TheOriginalGazelle I hope you have actually done the research on chemo; what it is; how it works; & the toll it takes on an adult let alone a child... B/c the last thing a baby of that size/age needs is chemo if there are other options. Chemo kills the immune system; it kills both good cells & bad cells in the attempts to kill the cancer. It's like tearing down ur house to replace some of the plumbing you can change by crawling underneath instead! Geez ignorance must B bliss!
PaisleyPlace 11 months ago
I hate it when the writers kill off children. I do not remember however I remember bits and pieces of BJ's death and the organ transplant. I hate that Jake is now on life support and will soon die. I loved the fact that Lucky thanked Jason for Jake. Elizabeth is mourning Jake and of course she is going to hell at Jason for asking for the kidney. I cannot blame her however another child is going to die without the kidney and that is not fair either.
emeraldlass 11 months ago
They just found out the baby had cancer, about the same time Jake is declared brain dead. They don't just automatically do a transplant like that. Elizabeth is grieving her little boy is dead, she can react that way if she wants. It should not have been Jason who asked it should have been a doctor. Talking to both Lucky and Elizabeth. And yes, if something were to happen to my son I would donate his organs. I am a donor as well.
weezie422 11 months ago
@weezie422 - Sorry, I was thinking about Michael and Jake because their bio dads are brothers... my bad!
mkfraz 11 months ago
@mkfraz No problem...
weezie422 11 months ago
Liz is a doctor, i thought she would be all for the organ donor stuff. Liz is grieving but if Jake is in fact the only hope for Josslyn, then you might as well help another child. Dont make Jake die in a bad way like the writings have tried to and I do not think that the writers even know if it was either Liz or Jason that said Jake was better off as Luckys. lol at different points they both have said it
doodleXmonster1 11 months ago
@doodleXmonster1 Liz isn't a doctor; she's a nurse but regardless, she's been in the medical profession long enough to know the score when it comes to drowning a child's body by IV with chemo along w/the dangers of using chemo on a child that young.
PaisleyPlace 11 months ago
Never thought I would say this but team fucking Lizabitch. Her son just died and it should not have been Jason to approach her. Carly, for whatever the case may be between those two, shoud have been the grown woman she claims to be and asked Elizabeth herself and not put fucking Jason in the middle of that shit. It's what I've been saying all along. Liz is just in reaction mode right now. If you have children of your own you should understand.
Vitaluv 11 months ago
@Vitaluv I AM A MOM OF 2 KIDS & I'd NEVER ACT THAT WAY! My oldest @ 16yo asked if her dad & I would abide by her wishes for her to mark organ donor on her drivers license! We promised. She made her new DH promise the same b4 they were engaged then again b4 they married. I've had too many family members on transplant lists to act as bitchy & unfeeling as Liz did toward Jason. The kidney isn't for Carly to survive. It's for Josslyn, an innocent child in need & can't control who her parents are!
PaisleyPlace 11 months ago
@Vitaluv Ur acting as if all should HATE Josslyn b/c her mom's Carly & that's wrong. What if someone refused U an organ b/c of your parent, spouse, etc? It's wrong & if you can't see it, then you should never have children & you'd do well to buy stock in growing organs b/c U might need an organ one day & if someone doesn't like U b/c of Ur family that'll be Ur only hope of survival.
PaisleyPlace 11 months ago
@PaisleyPlace I have had enough with you okay. Seriously. I don't give a fuck abut your experiences or your sitting in a hospital or whatever. It's you who don't give a fuck about people who are grieving. Sick child or not, or whatever those organ don't belong to you! And you don't get a claim on them sweetie. It is the right of that person or the parent to make that decision. And it SHOULD be respected when they tell you to back the fuck off. The problem is YOU are one sided. Not me. I
Vitaluv 11 months ago
@Vitaluv already stated I didn't think it would be that unreasonable for Carly as a mom to another mother to approach Liz on some serious type stuff and ask in person if she would consider giving Jake's organs to Joss. I understood both sides. But you are so caught up in your own experience you don't see the other side. Everyone does not believe in what you believe in and you don't have the right to try and judge someone for it.
Vitaluv 11 months ago
@Vitaluv It shouldn't have been either of them. It should have been the doctors. For me Jason going to Elizabeth right after they find out about Jake ranks right up in cold heartedness to her asking him to give Jake up right after Alan died. I hate this show and how they are making Jakes death about Carly, just like everything is about Carly.
weezie422 11 months ago
@Vitaluv I have children of my own. It seems you are the one whose thinking one-sided; there's plenty of us here, including myself, who are the ones seeing the WHOLE PICTURE while you just stick your head in the sand and pretend you see it all when you don't. You'd let others die from organs that will turn to dust rather than have that person live on in others - now who's selfish? We've discussed organ donation & it's something we believe in b/c like MONEY, YOU CAN'T TAKE IT WITH YOU!
PaisleyPlace 11 months ago
@PaisleyPlace You are blind. You did not even read anything I said. You just went on a rant about how much holier you are than everyone else because everyone's organs obviously are not their property to do what they will. You believe that when a person dies their shit is just up for grabs like some meat fucking market. That is disgusting. The WHOLE PICTURE means seeing everyone's side and taking it all into account and going from there. A lot of people DON'T agree with you. You look like an ass.
Vitaluv 11 months ago
And to add you would think that Lucky would be supportive of agreeing to donate Jake's kidneys to Josslyn considering the fact that Josslyn is Luckys cousin.
themavsfan1992 11 months ago
Grieving or not Elizabeth was wrong for what she said and did to Jason. If i can remember correctly Jason even proposed to Elizabeth. With no question Jason wanted to be more involved in Jake's life, but Jason lives a risky life. As much as he wanted to be with Elizabeth, he couldn't because of how dangerous his life is, and he didn't want to bring that danger to Elizabeth and her kids. BOTH Jason and Elizabeth agreed that Lucky not Jason would raise Jake as his own son.
themavsfan1992 11 months ago
@themavsfan1992 She is NOT wrong. At every obstacle Jason has said he can't be in Jakes life. DO NOT re-write history. She gave him a choice after Emily and Georgie died he re-iterated to her "life is too dangerous and Zacarah goes after famiies. I can't have Jake in danger". HIS decisions NOT hers
chookfeather 11 months ago
7:50 - I love Lucky!!!
spingirl75 11 months ago
It makes "sense" that Jake could be a match for Josslyn considering they are biologically cousins.
mkfraz 11 months ago
@mkfraz No they are not...there no blood relation between Jake and Josslyn. Neither Elizabeth nor Jason are related to Carly. Now if Lucky were Jakes bio dad then yes they would be cousines.
weezie422 11 months ago
@weezie422 Either way, they can be a match. The donors who gave my cousin's DH a kidney & my DH's best friend a pancreas & kidney were not blood related. MOF, we believe someone who was in the 9/11 aftermath could be my CIL's donor b/c his kidney b/c available shortly after 9/11. But, in both cases, the donors wanted to remain anonymous; hwr, both families sent letters of thanks & sympathies for their losses & they replied w/heartfelt letters w/best wishes for a long healthy life for each family
PaisleyPlace 11 months ago
@PaisleyPlace I know someone doesn't have to be a blood donor I was just clarifying that they were not cousins. Although the whole being matched in less then half a day is a bunch of bull. Not to mention she was just diagnosed...they would never do that and GH should try to be a bit more realistic. But then they had Carly, who has always treated Elizabeth like crap, thinking she could demand one of Jakes kidneys. And Jason actually once again putting Carly first and asking...this show sucks.
weezie422 11 months ago
@weezie422 Actually, a match can be made extremely quick if the facility has a decent lab. Organs from patients on life support are only viable for a short period of time; it's why in these cases a person from the transplant dept comes to talk to the family about donation b/c there's a small window of time; it gets even smaller once the organs are removed.
PaisleyPlace 11 months ago
@weezie422 If it weren't for the 2 autoimmune diseases I have or the retinal disease, I could donate to virtually anyone; hwr, if I needed & could even go on a transplant list, it'd be difficult b/c of my blood type but it doesn't matter b/c the autoimmunes will damage my organs beyond donation unless/? I go in an accident of some sort but there's still the ? of the autoimmune diseases & damage they caused & will cause as the diseases work plus the fact I have no viable immune system. It's toast
PaisleyPlace 11 months ago
I should clarify:
Liz's comments are inaccurate and wrong, but I don't hold that against her due to her state of mind. She's grieving. She just lost her son.
mrm87 11 months ago
Liz is right and wrong.
I don't blame her for the slap. I don't even blame her for the misguided logic about Jason "not wanting to be a father" or "not wanting to be with her". She's clearly grieving and has the right to express her mind, right or wrong.
That said, she's wrong with those comments. She asked Jason to give him up. Even when Jason had second thoughts, Michael got shot and that got him to back off. Jason would have married Liz if Michael didn't get shot.
mrm87 11 months ago
Nik is right. Luke is acting selfish.
mrm87 11 months ago
the reason why the organ was a match is simple. Its not jake that was hit by a car. It was jerry's kid and jake was kidnap. Jakey still lives. I am really holding out that is was a mistaken identity.
kissnicole 11 months ago
ok, Elizabeth I know that you are greifing but Jason as a self Bastard? really Elizabeth? all he was asked you that you have a chance to save another patient another child's that's all he wanted to do he didn't do anything wrong and if I remember correctly you asked Jason to walk away and give up Jake to protect Jake and give him a good life. and you refused to married Jason more then once you refused!! I need sam to be there for Jason. since Jason needs it.
tolbertjason 11 months ago 2
love liz, grief is grief no matter how you spin it. Glad for the slap. To push for another person life and its not your own child is wrong.
kissnicole 11 months ago
for Jasont to step up and claim Jake so Jake could have his father. JASON always backed out until he finally tormented her with visions of how Jake coudl have died during the second kidnapping to make her give up. SPin it anyway you want but in the end it was JASON"S decision not Elizabeths
chookfeather 11 months ago
@chookfeather Liz made it plain she couldn't live in "his" world & since then, she's run btw Lucky & Nic, got pregnant again, blew her marriage to Lucky up, burned her bridge w/Nic & now she wants to play the grieving Mom after letting her kid run off b/c she was too engrossed in a DNA test that could force Lucky back in her life after he's moved on? I dont think so. Liz isn't the prima dona she thinks she is. I'm thinking Jake'd been safer w/Sam & Jason. I'm thinking Liz needs a tubal ligation.
PaisleyPlace 11 months ago
@PaisleyPlace Garbage..She's been int he Mob life from the day she found him lying in the snow. She has always been apart of it in one form or another. She has been shot, kidnapped and almost blown up. Did she want danger for her boys in the beginning NO. But fromt he time of Alcazar's trial she has asked and begged fro Jason to be a part of Jake;s life. EVERYTIME he has said it's too dangerous. EVERYTIME he'd say YES, soemthing would happen and he'd back out. Until second kidnhapping and he
chookfeather 11 months ago
@PaisleyPlace Garbage..He said NO. HE laid down the rules. Never contact me. Jake can never know me. Yada yada. So 1) get your timeline right because she got engaged to Lucky and fooled around with NIk AFTER begging for Jason to be a part of his sons life for nearly 2years. 2) Don't just listent to what haters say watch the history because Lucky/Nik stuff lasted all of 5months until she found out she was pregnant with baby pointless. She isn't PLAYING the grievign mother she IS the grieving mom
chookfeather 11 months ago
@chookfeather He agreed to let her & Lucky raise Jake BECAUSE LIZ SAID SHE COULD NOT LIVE IN HIS WORLD! Afterward, Liz whimpered & whined then caught Lucky's attn again, that poor fool just gets duped by her each time...., so Jason did what was best; HOWEVER, LIZ NEVER HAD A PROBLEM GIVING PICTURES OR LETTING JASON HOLD JAKE - EVEN IN PUBLIC FOR ALL TO SEE! Sure, the kid that played Jake was an actor but he'd easily pass for Jason (real actor's) son! References to Jake's fearlessness been made 2
PaisleyPlace 11 months ago 2
@PaisleyPlace Look I get Jasam fans and Sam fans make up dialogue to suit there agenda and the special feed they get. She said his life is too dangerous for "HER BOYS" not HER. Replying with bs hater agenda about whining blah blah doesn't make you right. THE FACTS ARE that Elizabeth started the "Jake would be safer" garbage but JASON perfected it. End of story End of discussion.
chookfeather 11 months ago
Listen up morons who are putting Elizabeth down. Elizabeth asked Jason to step aside and let Lucky be the father...he agreed she didn't hold him down and force him or blackmail him. She did it at a time when she was trying to do what was right for everyone. Lucky Jason Sam - though why she would do anything considering what a lying baby terrorizing bitch she turned out to be - but like anyone who makes a mistake Elizabeth realized her error and wanted and asked on more than one occasion
chookfeather 11 months ago
There is no appropriate or inappropriate when you lose a child there is only grief and more grief, NO ONE should be so negative about Elizabeth for her response. She is insane with grief there is no right or wrong she is in hell. She lashed out at the closest thing. All those who criticized her response have never lost a child. I am shocked that anyone feels they have the right to criticize anyone's response to anything on the day they lost a child
hnorthca 11 months ago 3
"we can make jake's life mean something." jason means "jakes' death." but give him credit, even though he's a braindead moron, he did managed to talk in complete sentences once or twice in this episode.
heddalee 11 months ago
omg!!!! Lucky is such a great guy! and poor Jason
xolantexo 11 months ago
ok. u guys need to better watch gh
better because like i said she did want him to give him up. but she realized it was wrong. and she wanted to be with him with the boys. but no then jason says its too dangerous..........so he left them. his choice. in the end it was his choice..........
trio1226 11 months ago
Well THAT was the most hypocritical thing Elizabeth has ever done. I can't BELIEVE she said that, grieving or not. I usually like Elizabeth, but that was WAYYY over the line!! Poor Jason. :( He didn't give Jake up... he did it because Elizabeth wanted him to!
PiperFlute21 11 months ago
GRIEF. For the love of mike, people. Ok, it is fake life, but really. Does it occur to anyone that Elizabeth might have wanted Jason? I don't know the history, as I was off GH at the time, but it always seemed that Elizabeth and Jason had a connection. Maybe she would have wanted him to fight for her? Either way, I get the slap. Lucky is right, jason was a great father, by giving him up.
bjkmurray 11 months ago
thank god for lucky. after elizabeth's unforgettably harsh words, lucky said exactly what jason deserved to hear. i couldn't believe elizabeth could have the audacity to call jason selfish after what he did for her and for jake.
alabamataylor 11 months ago
@trio1266 Sam accepts Jason for who he is and Liz always pushes men away then begs them to come back. She actually begged Jason to let lucky be his father. Yes I saw it and remember it well.
shytea1 11 months ago
I can't believe how many are putting down Elizabeth for what she said her son had just died and there was Jason wanting to cut him open. She was not ready to let go yet. If you have not had one of your kids die then you will never know how she feels.
jolee033 11 months ago 2
dont tell jason that he doesnt have a whole in his heart. cuz he does. even more so because you only got to know and hold his son 8 times. all to please your selfish self. brooklyn said the words: your disgusting.
-but i do understand that the moment jason asked you for his sons organs for josslyn was untimed and inappropriate. however it would have been basically the same thing b/c the doctors who you call colleagues who have asked you the same thing in regards to jakes like.
charmedchchi 11 months ago
I love Lucky.
bee2682 11 months ago 2
him from the mob life. jake is equally in danger being in luckys life and in jasons. lucky's unsafe even more because he has a long list of people he put away and has to wait for legality issues to find out who whereas jason takes care of the ppl who are bothering him immediately. jason loves jake. its not his fault you lied and cheated. had to cover your tracks so that you could crawl back into luckys, nikolas bed. and even after jake was born, you kept coming back for more from jason. so no
charmedchchi 11 months ago
I believe what happened was Jake was kidnapped and after that Jason told Elizabeth it was best he not be in Jake's life and Elizabeth didn't argue.
kdmacdo 11 months ago
Thank you Nikolas, for all but kicking Luke squarely in the ass! I've been screaming since Friday about what a coward Luke has been to bail on Lucky like that. I couldn't believe that Tracy let him get away with it yesterday. I know his never been a cadidate for Father of the Year, but it's been inexcusable for him to abandon Lucky like that!"
IBGECKO 11 months ago
u guys r so dumb. if u even watch gh correctly u would know that jason did choose the mob life over her and the boys. yeah there was a time when liz was scared about s life and told him to step aside. but then she realize she loved him and fought for him. they were gonna get married before michael got shot. then jason broke it off. i just dont get why he is with sam then. isnt sam in danger too then!
trio1226 11 months ago
@trio1226 But Spam is a "tough girl" who has been in and out of trouble her whole life. She understands and respects the game in a way that Liz could never. I think that was the point of it all.
Vitaluv 11 months ago
Good point Liz!
supafunky916 11 months ago
Whew! Go lucky!
adjbey 11 months ago