He was assasinated for reasons other than being Gay along with another SF politician. The assasin was displeased with how the city was dealing with public works.
@dirtdemon6 Dan White from what I've read was a spoiled, pathetic individual who couldn't accept it when things didn't go his away. Perhaps homophobia didn't inspire his crimes but homophobia helped White get away with double homicide
What many of you don't realise... is that fear is often ingrained into us. If you are taught that being different is wrong, you are conditioned through fear. Obama would have to have dealt with that same fear of "difference" growing up as any person of different race or sexuality to the majority.
Fear becomes a condition when generations have been effected, it becomes part of your heritage, even if the times are better. It takes more then sorry, more then legal fixtures to overcome hate!
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Obama isn't the "black president" ... he's the "fag president". The gays have hi-jacked the civil rights bus, kicked off the rightful occupants, and detoured the bus from Selma to Sodom & Gomorrah. Gay marriage, gay adoption, gays in the military, gays in the classroom ... anything they want! This is not the kind of change I voted for!
Obama knows about unreasoned hatred. About ignorance. Of course he would stand with gay Americans. Freedom isnt a bumper sticker or a slogan. Its about people being able to make choices of how to live their life. If that doesnt fit into your view of the world thats too bad.
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Silvertrine - Obama knows very little about unreasoned hatred as compared to my parents, who grew up in the era when there were separate black bathrooms, and you had to sit on the back of the bus, and the wrong attitude could be you lynched. What Obama is doing this for political gain, and not because he believes a word of what he is saying. Homosexuals are not the "new blacks". If that doesn't fit your world view, then too bad.
No their path is not the same as American blacks. However everyone deserves equal protection under the law. Everyone deserves freedom from violence. If you think Obama is putting on a show I feel a bit sorry for you. Any American should feel strongly about ensuring these basic rights for American homosexuals whether or not they agree with their lifestyle.
The fight for gay rights is a fight for human rights. When you pass laws that allow the persecution and discrimination of one group of people, you make it easier to discriminate and persecute the next group of people. It doesn't matter what their skin color, nationality, sexual orientation, etc. are. Wrong is wrong! If "we the people" truly believe all men are created equal, then it is time to do what is right for ALL AMERICANS.
@MaryWaterton Nice Bible reference there... Unfortunately, the story of Sodom and Gomorrah has been perverted by people like you to come to be a story of "evils" of homosexuality. The people of Sodom and Gomorrah were punished because they were inhospitable and cruel, something the homophobes of the world have come to represent very well. So when a fire and brimstone rains down from the heavens, it will be YOUR fault, not Obama's nor the homosexuals.
@sugarcube440 - HOMOSEXUALITY was the primary EVIL for which Sodom & Gomorrah were destroyed. Being "inhospitable and cruel" were additional sins. Stands to reason that if you are going to sink to the filthiest of all sins that being "inhospitable and cruel" costs you no extra effort. In the future, God will not rain down fire and brimstone ... He will send you to Hell where you will swim in it.
The wicked shall be turned into Hell and all the nations that forget God. (Psalm 9:17)
the derogatory comments here about harvey milk and obama are absurd. get your facts right before you go mudslinging. any idiot who looked up any info about harvey milk would know that he fought for all minority rights and that dumbass comment about little boys is silly because it is still true to this day that 90% of child molesters are straight.
the derogatory comments here about harvey milk and obama are absurd. get your facts right before you go mudslinging. any idiot who looked up any info about harvey milk would know that he fought for all minority rights and that dumbass comment about little boys is silly because it is still true to this day that 90% of child molesters are straight.
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I guess if you do as the left does, you will be rewarded no matter how bad your life really was. All Milk did was take all the boys milk in his ass. How is that something to look up to? Funny shit if you ask me.
The death panel is the "advisory committe panel" found in the bill which will re-allocate funding for the terminally ill, elder and others with what the govement considers un treatable diseases. Care will be limted to the elderly and reshuffled to the young whom the govement sees as "treatable". Funds are limited so individuals will be labeled as "expendable" based on health care resources. This is how the gov will treat its citizens.
i shouldn't be surprised but as always i am by the intellect of so many republican supporters. throwing out big words like marxism and communism, i'd have to shoot myself if any of them could actually tell me anything about those concepts having lived in a democratic nation all their lives. oh and by the way a lot of communist countries are doing just fine. it must be really easy to talk out of their asses when there's no brain function.
And then he trashed their hopes for change. "A promise to be an ally, no less a fierce ally, to marginalised people who suffer institutional discrimination, whose inequality is codified into our very laws, who live at disproportionate risk for hate crimes because of the violent prejudice woven into our national fabric, is the kind of promise that cannot be made casually." One law after another. It's unlikely they'll ever vote republican, but If I were gay, I wouldn't give a shit anymore.
It's coming. He had a meeting with the LGBT leaders recently. It's going to take a lot of political capital to give equal rights to LGBTs. Unfortunately, it'll have to come after healthcare & energy.
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No wonder why his poll numbers are slipping. Harvey Milk with the MOF? The lawyer for Che Guevera? And libs are wondering why people r calling Obama a marxist? LOL.
wow -- there is lots of stupid everywhere. even in the bronx. harvey milk wasn't an attorney . oops. dumb on you. i don't know why a revolutinary in latin america would want or need an attorney in san francisco anyway. to the best of my knowledge che was in the united states only once -- at that was as the head of the cuban delegation to the UN -- not on trial. i seriously doubt harvey and che ever even met. someone needs a fact checker before their slow dumb fingers type. .
so that's what they honored him for? for being the so called mayor of the castro? a man who only sponsored two laws gets all of this accolade? face it he wasnt the man that penn portrayed in Milk he was a short tempered demogouge who invented stories about victimhood to further his career. no wonder why Obama's given him the medal. it's jsut what he did.
i think you protest a little much. he gave a lot of people courage to stand up for themselves. he was not short tempered or a demogogue. he actually cared about the people in his neighborhood. his association with jim jones was distant at best -- people from his church helped man phones you got a long way to go before you are rush limbaugh. are you even morbidly obese yet? after that you have to figure out how to land a few million a year from donations from your sheeple. and lots of oxys.
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oh yeah, when a communist like milk associates with a murderer like Jones it's "distant at best".
who's talking about limbaugh? I know that being an alinksyite, u want to polarize your enemies. I know the rules 4 radicals. it seems u learned well.
Milk helped the murderer Jim Jones. Go read it from the City Journal publication, which is not a right winged publication. ur obama kool aid drinking putz.
calling harvey milk a communist is just plain stupid. he didn't help jim jones kill anyone. i hope one day someone you know turns into a serial killer -- then everyone can say you are a communist that associates with murderers. the reality is you are a morbildly obese windbag that can't get laid and spend your nights wet dreaming about horses so to make up for it you go on the internet and call everyone names. kill yourself. you have my blessing. wheres the liberal death squad when you need em?
you never saw me, you dont know me lol you dont know what i look like lol. yeah, ok. psycho.
you made no point whatsoever. how much do you get paid to sit here all day. how much does obama pay you 10? 15? per hour?
milk supported jones that means he helped jones kill those people. hey people who looked away in nazi germany werent murders but just b/c you dont actually murder doesnt mean that u dont help the actual murder. sip that kool aid.
Oh and I'm sorry I mustve had a brain fart. it happens.
It was JIM JONES who Milk associated with. even worse. Killing 1,000 people with kool aid in order to rule by dictate over subjecated idiots in a communal type setting. Milk occasionally spoke at Joness San Franciscobased headquarters, promoted Jones through his newspaper columns, and defended the Peoples Temple from its growing legion of critics. Jones provided conscripted volunteers for Milks campaigns. Sorry my mistake lol.
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Kudos on the superbly written comment by mrltavern!
If anyone wants to see a good clip on this subject...look up Molotov Mitchell, milk and kool aid. It's quite entertaining and yes, educational. That is if you all really want to know the truth.
I don't know about the rest of you but I can't stand to hear that Obama dude speak...promoting his lies and deceptions at every turn. I'll bet he lies even while he sleeps!
What the hell does supporting H. Milk have to do with Marxism? Sometimes I think you people don't even know what Communism is and just think everyone left of Reagan supports Marxism.
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perhaps if you picked up a book once and awhile you'd know. You cannot read. I understand it's hard to be an ignorant person filled with hatred of America.
Harvey milk was CHe Guevera's lawyer. Supported Che. Che was a known marxists and a murderer. I know to you Che was a hero but that's an aguement for another time.
1. Che can go fuck himself for all I care. The violent prick.
2. You can go fuck yourself to. You arrogant generalizing prick.
3. I don't know what righ-wing rag told that Milk represented Guevera but it never happened Which would explain why I can find not even one mention of it on the internet. Not even on the most paranoid of right-wing sites. Odd.
oh yeah it's all right wing rags to you people. you're just ignorant and dont want to see any other opinions except your own. your the classic example of the intolerant liberal.
Um, Harvey Milk wasn't a lawyer...He was a stock man in New York and then moved to San Francisco to open a camera shop. Che was dead long before Milk was in the newspapers, as a matter of fact, Che was dead long before Milk switched from Republican to Democrat. It appears that you're quite ignorant. I'd love to see your sources for that load of b.s.
Yes, some of us are. Native Americans also accepted transgendered people into their communities without a problem. You'll just have to deal with that.
I think recognizing Milk like this qualifies as Obama throwing the GLBT community a bone. Symbolic gestures are appreciated, but this is not what the GLBT community needs (and Obama knows it). GLBT need meat, not bones. Repeal DADT. Repeal DOMA. Give gays the same rights as straights. Allow America to live up to its promise that ALL, not some, are created equally (& thus should be treated equally)
I'm proud of you Obama. Pulled a few bullshit kicks in the past few months, goods, bads; but this is far closer to the internal positive doctrine that your campaign ran on.
Awesome.
Very few other men deserve such a great honor as Milk.
Yeah sure, the best way for a politician to raise his approval ratings in a country teeming with homophobes and inbred troglodytes is to publicly commend a gay man.
Next thing you're probably gonna tell is for a Latino to get on the good side of white racists is to advocate illegal immigration and a $5000 tax credit for each newborn child.
With all of his "compromising" with Republicans on health care -- WHICH IS NOT WHAT WE ELECTED HIM AND GAVE HIM 60 SEATS IN THE SENATE TO ACCOMPLISH!!! -- the left is expressing DISAPPROVAL.
Its not the right who is leaving him. THEY NEVER LIKED HIM!! His approval ratings are plummeting, because he has taken the public option off the table. And single payer never even got ON the table!!
I agree. We do not have to be bi-partisan. That seems to be the excuse everytime the president won't pass something. Or allow the American people to set the standard. I still like him. But my vote can be used elsewhere.
"Their relationship was troubled: McKinley was prone to depression and frequently threatened to commit suicide if Milk did not show him enough attention.[13] To make a point to McKinley, Milk took him to the hospital where Milk's ex-lover Joe Campbell was recuperating from a suicide attempt, after his lover—a man named Billy Sipple—left him."
the "goldwater republicans" were conservative. gay rights at the time would have been more embraced by conservatives -- real conservatives. less govternment -- as in keep your laws out of my bedroom. at the time the apa still decried homosexuality as a mental disorder. ask relatives -- you usually had to produce an opposite sex spouse for any professional job. it was a different world and conservatives weren't neo-conservatives yet. i can't name a real conservative in govt now -- can you?
"He started a relationship with Jack Galen McKinley, and recruited him in the fight against the proliferation of big government by persuading McKinley to work on conservative Republican Barry Goldwater's 1964 presidential campaign.
He did not enthusiastically support Jim Jones, nor did he support him wholeheartedly. Jim Jones was a powerful man in San Francisco during the 70s and many politicos attempted to stay on his good side. Harvey was frightened by Jone's influence and saw it as a necessary evil to do moderate business with him. Their relationship went no further than Jones ordering a few of his followers to campaign for Milk.
"Rev. Jones is widely known in the minority communities here and elsewhere as a man of the highest character"
Excerpt from a letter to then President Carter defending Jim Jones, AFTER defaming articles had already been published.
I'm not saying he knew what was at the heart of People's Temple and overlooked it, or was at even charmed, but he didn't look any further than the fact that "they can get me some more votes." Just like any other politician.
I stand by my previous statement. What you have just stated isn't proof that Harvey was "just another politician." Again, Milk knew the influence of Jones and the purpose of a campaign is to win**, not lose. I'd take votes from anyone I could get. If they vote for me they endorse me, I don't endorse them. Jones played his hand in many other local politico's campaigns as well. I'm sure he did defend Jones in the context of the times, for no one knew what was really going on w/ the Peo. Temple.
"If they vote for me they endorse me, I don't endorse them."
What is the f&%king point in representative government if you don't? Perhaps it's nothing more than a series of contests to win? Actors in a 'Fantasy Primary'
I would think that a man with so much influence would be one to be scrutinized, rather than taken at face value.
"no one knew what was really going on w/ the Peo. Temple. "
Enough people knew to speak out about abuses going on there.
During the GOP primaries in 2008 it was discovered that quite a few Klan members supported Ron Paul. Do you think that Ron Paul was a racist, or endorsed their behavior or even their views? No, of course not. However, he took their money. Does that make him a bad person? Plenty of powerful people are taken at face value to then be uncovered as wackos. Your out-of-context snippets isn't enough to turn Milk into an ass.
when did they ever have grace or dignity? hatred and bigotry are only qualities to strive for when you have no concept of morality. like fundamentalists.
This is great, but the president needs to support marriage equality by the time 2012 rolls around, and do something on DADT (how idiotic can policy get?) yesterday.
Millenials (we're a significant part of the coalition that elected him) understand the political considerations, but at some point Democratic leaders have to acknowledge the inescapable truth. Our gay friends, co - workers, and neighbors deserve the same rights we have. For them not to have them is just plain wrong.
"socialist." Do you even know what that means? In Sweden, during the financial crisis, the Govt. took over a bankrupting bank, got it back on its feet and sold it with profit. Change the system, dont throw money at it.
DADT is so fucking stupid. A co-worker of mine recently told my boss that he's gay. And no one gave a shit. Which is good. Because your sexual orientation doesn't automatically mean you can't hold a gun.
billwenham you have a friend here. The first step toward happiness - believe me you could be my kid - s to let go of all kind of "cults" created by men.Please read my channel. Religion, bible, Torah, Coran et al are but created by a bunch of psychotics which never, ever should be allowed to be published. the fact that makes us decent does not rely on any fairy tale book but within ourselves. This is the gos people should believe. This is the reason god gave us gray matter and enabled us to think
You are correct: His commitment to bring combat troops home by May 20, 2010, and end the war gave him an edge among Democrats over candidate Hillary Clinton - But it was a lie: He has increased troops & promises to leave residual troops!
Obama promised to reduce defense spending; but increased it this year by 8%
Obama's words, America must "lead the world in battling immediate evils and promoting the ultimate good."
He wants to add 65,000 troops to the Army and recruit 27,000 more Marines.
Currently, the world is forming ad-hoc currency baskets for trade in order to get away from the contamination, which is the US dollar, (google: Shanghai Organizational Coop); & setting up for a new World Order Currency
Meanwhile, the USA has Stockholm Syndrome, where the terrorized population through Obama actually supports their terrorist: Last week Obama is actually giving more power to their captors, the Federal Reserve Bank, rather than prosecuting them
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Bernanke, Geithner, Rubens, Summers, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan & the Federal Reserve Bank know exactly what they are doing by collapsing the US Dollar:
The purpose of this financial crisis is to take down the U.S. dollar as the stable datum of planetary finance and, in the midst of the resulting confusion, put in its place a Global Monetary Authority [GMA - run directly by international bankers freed of any government control] -a planetary financial control organization" - Bruce Wiseman
European & American state aid is interlocked into the International Bank of Settlements, which is tied to World Bank, which is tied into the IMF, which is like all things: Tied into Goldman Sachs!
AIG is run by Edley of Goldman Sachs!
All roads lead to: Goldman Sachs!
Why don't sheeple want to be independent of Goldman Sachs & JP Morgan?
Instead their lives are dictated to by a bunch of arbitrage wielding sycophants & sociopathic criminals who profit by destroying the system!
How about D.E. Shaw & Co, World Trade Organization, Bechtel, RAND Corporation, Albright Stonebridge Group, Koch Industries, Project for the New American Century, World Business Council for Sustainable Development, Bank for International Settlements, American Enterprise Institute, Mitre Corporation, St. Petersburg Times, Latham & Watkins, and the International Institute for Strategic Studies?
Do you know any of these?! No. I thought so. You think Goldman Sachs is evil, wow...you have no idea...
st pete times on the same list as rand, aei, etc gives me reason to ponder why. maybe i am just outdated. i thought st pete times was one of the few independent papers left.
goldman sachs was given a big shiny colorful beach ball by the united states government and they ran with it. calling them evil for playing inside the rules the government made for them is missing the point of why government and business shouldn't be in bed together unless your idol is benito mussolini.
St. Peter Times is not run by Jesus. Paul Tash sits on the Pulitzer Prize board. Politifact got a Pulitzer Prize. Paul Tash gave himself an award. Paul Tash sold CQ to The Economist (a.k.a Rothschild) Just like any other business, it has a hole that leads to some kind of ridiculous conspiracy theory.
Having a lot of former employees in the government doesn't make Goldman Sachs evil. UBS sits on Obama's Economic Recovery Board. And that still doesn't stop the IRS from tearing UBS apart.
To my knowledge, the only thing Goldman Sachs is guilty of is "liking money". Not some kind conspiracy theory that GS is trying to take over the world (impossible). In fact, you would be surprised at how little GS know.
GS advised Dun & Bradstreet to give up ACNielsen and Moody's. Bad move by D&B. That's why they moved all their assets to Pictet & Cie. This idea that Rothschild own all the major banks in the world is also bullshit. Trust me. Rothschild has nothing on P&C. They're competitors.
i am sure if you told people at gs they didn't own the world it would come as a big surprise to them though. i think if the country were a little less religious we wouldn't be so eager to play the devil card. gs got a major boost with paulson/kashari. it cost a lot so i hope they enjoyed it. i think you are right they did nothing illegal -- the stayed inside government rules which allowed them to do everything they did no matter how stupid.
Those were just some totally random organizations I flung out to you. I can name at least 50 more because I KNOW MORE THAN YOU. And if you think Goldman Sachs is evil, then you drank the Alex Jones kool-aid. Goldman Sachs is the least of our worry. You don't really know how this world works, do you?
honor him with some real change in glbt rights! we're still waiting for hate crimes, ENDA, DOMA repeal and DADT repeal... Please show us some of the change you promised us in the campaign!
Like many socialist before him, Obama never held a real job in the private sector, (outside short stint as a trophy for a law firm), beyond childish fantasies of Utopia, he has never had to come to grips in any way with the problems of economics, (nor does he have any clear concept of the conditions that determine the character of a human society). Without market freedom the traffic signals of reward & incentive that point the best direction for the future investment of our activity are missing
sugarpuddin88 Please, please ask your mother NOT to have sex with her brother again...Imagine how many schizos like you. dellusional paranoids white trailer trash will be there...you know, nothing personal against you but it's widely known ignorance breeds only stupidity. Inbred are NOT cool. get a job and move from the traler already. ok, I'm finish. Go back to play with your dildo
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Obama broken promises: No. 1: 'Sunlight Before Signing' No. 2: Capital gains tax elimination No. 3: New American jobs tax credit No. 4: Hiatus on 401(k) penalties No. 5: 'No jobs for lobbyists' No. 6: Earmark reform No. 7: Bring troops home in 16 months No. 8: Sign 'Freedom of Choice Act' No. 9: $4,000 college credit No. 10: Transparency No. 11: Executive signing statements No. 24: End income tax for seniors making less than $50,000
I understand your federally mandated American education was created by Rockefeller & Dewey so that you may become another "passive cog in the wheel of society"
I can tell because anyone educated elsewhere would "debate" rather than limit themselves to uncivilized pejoratives
Why don't you give it a try: Explain the merit of your claim
Try it: See if you can rub together a couple brain cells to create a spark of dialog
Obama broken promises: No. 1: 'Sunlight Before Signing' No. 2: Capital gains tax elimination No. 3: New American jobs tax credit No. 4: Hiatus on 401(k) penalties No. 5: 'No jobs for lobbyists' No. 6: Earmark reform No. 7: Bring troops home in 16 months No. 8: Sign 'Freedom of Choice Act' No. 9: $4,000 college credit No. 10: Transparency No. 11: Executive signing statements No. 24: End income tax for seniors making less than $50,000
LBJ's "We. Shall. Overcome." times infinity.
There may never be a greater Presidential moment.
But there will be – when he signs the DOMA repeal, and who knows what more beyond that. It will happen.
Keep playing your cards close, Mister President. I am honoured to live in your era.
Enantiodromialist 6 months ago
Thank you Obama for honoring Harvey-all gay people will remember this.
borebox 6 months ago
How moving to see our first black president honoring the first openly gay man elected to political office. Truly amazing.
bboinnng 6 months ago
@bboinnng Yes it is. I expected this as much as people expected Civil Rights from LBJ. He will be remembered as the Greatest President Ever.
YES WE CAN
YES WE WILL
YES WE DID
Enantiodromialist 6 months ago
He was assasinated for reasons other than being Gay along with another SF politician. The assasin was displeased with how the city was dealing with public works.
dirtdemon6 8 months ago
@dirtdemon6 Dan White from what I've read was a spoiled, pathetic individual who couldn't accept it when things didn't go his away. Perhaps homophobia didn't inspire his crimes but homophobia helped White get away with double homicide
TheAnxietyCloset 8 months ago
harvey was shot, point taken now follow whites lead right.
G41MCombo 8 months ago
What many of you don't realise... is that fear is often ingrained into us. If you are taught that being different is wrong, you are conditioned through fear. Obama would have to have dealt with that same fear of "difference" growing up as any person of different race or sexuality to the majority.
Fear becomes a condition when generations have been effected, it becomes part of your heritage, even if the times are better. It takes more then sorry, more then legal fixtures to overcome hate!
Vasiel44 10 months ago
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Obama isn't the "black president" ... he's the "fag president". The gays have hi-jacked the civil rights bus, kicked off the rightful occupants, and detoured the bus from Selma to Sodom & Gomorrah. Gay marriage, gay adoption, gays in the military, gays in the classroom ... anything they want! This is not the kind of change I voted for!
MaryWaterton 2 years ago
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Silvertrine 2 years ago
Obama knows about unreasoned hatred. About ignorance. Of course he would stand with gay Americans. Freedom isnt a bumper sticker or a slogan. Its about people being able to make choices of how to live their life. If that doesnt fit into your view of the world thats too bad.
Silvertrine 2 years ago 4
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Silvertrine - Obama knows very little about unreasoned hatred as compared to my parents, who grew up in the era when there were separate black bathrooms, and you had to sit on the back of the bus, and the wrong attitude could be you lynched. What Obama is doing this for political gain, and not because he believes a word of what he is saying. Homosexuals are not the "new blacks". If that doesn't fit your world view, then too bad.
MaryWaterton 2 years ago
No their path is not the same as American blacks. However everyone deserves equal protection under the law. Everyone deserves freedom from violence. If you think Obama is putting on a show I feel a bit sorry for you. Any American should feel strongly about ensuring these basic rights for American homosexuals whether or not they agree with their lifestyle.
Silvertrine 2 years ago
The fight for gay rights is a fight for human rights. When you pass laws that allow the persecution and discrimination of one group of people, you make it easier to discriminate and persecute the next group of people. It doesn't matter what their skin color, nationality, sexual orientation, etc. are. Wrong is wrong! If "we the people" truly believe all men are created equal, then it is time to do what is right for ALL AMERICANS.
stevenm73 2 years ago 9
@MaryWaterton Nice Bible reference there... Unfortunately, the story of Sodom and Gomorrah has been perverted by people like you to come to be a story of "evils" of homosexuality. The people of Sodom and Gomorrah were punished because they were inhospitable and cruel, something the homophobes of the world have come to represent very well. So when a fire and brimstone rains down from the heavens, it will be YOUR fault, not Obama's nor the homosexuals.
sugarcube440 7 months ago
@sugarcube440 - HOMOSEXUALITY was the primary EVIL for which Sodom & Gomorrah were destroyed. Being "inhospitable and cruel" were additional sins. Stands to reason that if you are going to sink to the filthiest of all sins that being "inhospitable and cruel" costs you no extra effort. In the future, God will not rain down fire and brimstone ... He will send you to Hell where you will swim in it.
The wicked shall be turned into Hell and all the nations that forget God. (Psalm 9:17)
MaryWaterton 7 months ago
@sugarcube440
Bravo!
straburyred 4 months ago
the derogatory comments here about harvey milk and obama are absurd. get your facts right before you go mudslinging. any idiot who looked up any info about harvey milk would know that he fought for all minority rights and that dumbass comment about little boys is silly because it is still true to this day that 90% of child molesters are straight.
Shayna8099 2 years ago 6
the derogatory comments here about harvey milk and obama are absurd. get your facts right before you go mudslinging. any idiot who looked up any info about harvey milk would know that he fought for all minority rights and that dumbass comment about little boys is silly because it is still true to this day that 90% of child molesters are straight.
Shayna8099 2 years ago
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I guess if you do as the left does, you will be rewarded no matter how bad your life really was. All Milk did was take all the boys milk in his ass. How is that something to look up to? Funny shit if you ask me.
bolitapelona 2 years ago
well said obama i give u props XD
HoneyLemonEm0lious 2 years ago 3
for someone who doesnt like gay people you seem to be watching an awful lot of content about it.
BenJEMean 2 years ago 5
Wow
UndertakerFan56 2 years ago
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The death panel is the "advisory committe panel" found in the bill which will re-allocate funding for the terminally ill, elder and others with what the govement considers un treatable diseases. Care will be limted to the elderly and reshuffled to the young whom the govement sees as "treatable". Funds are limited so individuals will be labeled as "expendable" based on health care resources. This is how the gov will treat its citizens.
MHawk01 2 years ago
i shouldn't be surprised but as always i am by the intellect of so many republican supporters. throwing out big words like marxism and communism, i'd have to shoot myself if any of them could actually tell me anything about those concepts having lived in a democratic nation all their lives. oh and by the way a lot of communist countries are doing just fine. it must be really easy to talk out of their asses when there's no brain function.
salma738 2 years ago
You're right. I didn't vote for Obama because I don't believe in Marxism.
fedupwithillegals 2 years ago
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the president would give an award to a pig if he could. he's got no morals or principles between his big ears.
fedupwithillegals 2 years ago
So let me guess you voted for mccain who hated christianity btw.
cqghost 2 years ago
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gays have rights? since when?
Tennessee44444 2 years ago
lol @ :39
the village people? haha
Eric1can9scream 2 years ago
Empty Gesture
Repeal DADT and DOMA you liar.
Joe402 2 years ago 2
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Megamediaplex 2 years ago
Good job, now go repeal DADT like you promised.
MaxTheMann 2 years ago 17
Is somebody trying to win over some lost voters there?
wimscheers 2 years ago
NO OBAMA got 90 percent of the LGBT voters
kirkboi 2 years ago
And then he trashed their hopes for change. "A promise to be an ally, no less a fierce ally, to marginalised people who suffer institutional discrimination, whose inequality is codified into our very laws, who live at disproportionate risk for hate crimes because of the violent prejudice woven into our national fabric, is the kind of promise that cannot be made casually." One law after another. It's unlikely they'll ever vote republican, but If I were gay, I wouldn't give a shit anymore.
wimscheers 2 years ago
wimscheers
no 90% of the gay community voted for
him including my gay cousin and bisexual twin cousins =]
lily1235 2 years ago
I like this, but it's not enough. He needs to push for full equal rights of LGBT people like he said he would.
aratinacage 2 years ago 3
It's coming. He had a meeting with the LGBT leaders recently. It's going to take a lot of political capital to give equal rights to LGBTs. Unfortunately, it'll have to come after healthcare & energy.
aznfootwork 2 years ago 6
he just signed a Presidential Memorandum regarding federal benefits for same-sex couples
=]
lily1235 2 years ago 2
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No wonder why his poll numbers are slipping. Harvey Milk with the MOF? The lawyer for Che Guevera? And libs are wondering why people r calling Obama a marxist? LOL.
mrltavern 2 years ago
are you wondering why people are calling you a backwater crossbred idiot? go play your deliverance banjo and take social skills cleasses.
gisforgary 2 years ago 2
LOL I live in the Bronx you fucking moron. No banjos or back water there.
mrltavern 2 years ago
wow -- there is lots of stupid everywhere. even in the bronx. harvey milk wasn't an attorney . oops. dumb on you. i don't know why a revolutinary in latin america would want or need an attorney in san francisco anyway. to the best of my knowledge che was in the united states only once -- at that was as the head of the cuban delegation to the UN -- not on trial. i seriously doubt harvey and che ever even met. someone needs a fact checker before their slow dumb fingers type. .
gisforgary 2 years ago 3
Milk was never really a mayor just a city supervisor.
mrltavern 2 years ago
i never said he was. he was nicknamed "mayor of castro street". did you think streets really elect their own mayors?
your facts have been false all over the place -- why would anyone respect your opinion?
gisforgary 2 years ago
so that's what they honored him for? for being the so called mayor of the castro? a man who only sponsored two laws gets all of this accolade? face it he wasnt the man that penn portrayed in Milk he was a short tempered demogouge who invented stories about victimhood to further his career. no wonder why Obama's given him the medal. it's jsut what he did.
mrltavern 2 years ago
i think you protest a little much. he gave a lot of people courage to stand up for themselves. he was not short tempered or a demogogue. he actually cared about the people in his neighborhood. his association with jim jones was distant at best -- people from his church helped man phones you got a long way to go before you are rush limbaugh. are you even morbidly obese yet? after that you have to figure out how to land a few million a year from donations from your sheeple. and lots of oxys.
gisforgary 2 years ago 2
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oh yeah, when a communist like milk associates with a murderer like Jones it's "distant at best".
who's talking about limbaugh? I know that being an alinksyite, u want to polarize your enemies. I know the rules 4 radicals. it seems u learned well.
Milk helped the murderer Jim Jones. Go read it from the City Journal publication, which is not a right winged publication. ur obama kool aid drinking putz.
mrltavern 2 years ago
calling harvey milk a communist is just plain stupid. he didn't help jim jones kill anyone. i hope one day someone you know turns into a serial killer -- then everyone can say you are a communist that associates with murderers. the reality is you are a morbildly obese windbag that can't get laid and spend your nights wet dreaming about horses so to make up for it you go on the internet and call everyone names. kill yourself. you have my blessing. wheres the liberal death squad when you need em?
gisforgary 2 years ago
you never saw me, you dont know me lol you dont know what i look like lol. yeah, ok. psycho.
you made no point whatsoever. how much do you get paid to sit here all day. how much does obama pay you 10? 15? per hour?
milk supported jones that means he helped jones kill those people. hey people who looked away in nazi germany werent murders but just b/c you dont actually murder doesnt mean that u dont help the actual murder. sip that kool aid.
mrltavern 2 years ago
Well, you know, maybe if he wasn't killed he could have accomplished more.
gladius900 2 years ago
Oh and I'm sorry I mustve had a brain fart. it happens.
It was JIM JONES who Milk associated with. even worse. Killing 1,000 people with kool aid in order to rule by dictate over subjecated idiots in a communal type setting. Milk occasionally spoke at Joness San Franciscobased headquarters, promoted Jones through his newspaper columns, and defended the Peoples Temple from its growing legion of critics. Jones provided conscripted volunteers for Milks campaigns. Sorry my mistake lol.
mrltavern 2 years ago
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Kudos on the superbly written comment by mrltavern!
If anyone wants to see a good clip on this subject...look up Molotov Mitchell, milk and kool aid. It's quite entertaining and yes, educational. That is if you all really want to know the truth.
I don't know about the rest of you but I can't stand to hear that Obama dude speak...promoting his lies and deceptions at every turn. I'll bet he lies even while he sleeps!
harkinsrule 2 years ago
What the hell does supporting H. Milk have to do with Marxism? Sometimes I think you people don't even know what Communism is and just think everyone left of Reagan supports Marxism.
QregTheBlueMonkey 2 years ago 17
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perhaps if you picked up a book once and awhile you'd know. You cannot read. I understand it's hard to be an ignorant person filled with hatred of America.
Harvey milk was CHe Guevera's lawyer. Supported Che. Che was a known marxists and a murderer. I know to you Che was a hero but that's an aguement for another time.
mrltavern 2 years ago
1. Che can go fuck himself for all I care. The violent prick.
2. You can go fuck yourself to. You arrogant generalizing prick.
3. I don't know what righ-wing rag told that Milk represented Guevera but it never happened Which would explain why I can find not even one mention of it on the internet. Not even on the most paranoid of right-wing sites. Odd.
QregTheBlueMonkey 2 years ago 5
oh yeah it's all right wing rags to you people. you're just ignorant and dont want to see any other opinions except your own. your the classic example of the intolerant liberal.
mrltavern 2 years ago
Yeah. Because I call for evidence of your lies that makes me intolerant. You're a joke.
QregTheBlueMonkey 2 years ago
Um, Harvey Milk wasn't a lawyer...He was a stock man in New York and then moved to San Francisco to open a camera shop. Che was dead long before Milk was in the newspapers, as a matter of fact, Che was dead long before Milk switched from Republican to Democrat. It appears that you're quite ignorant. I'd love to see your sources for that load of b.s.
PoliticalJunkie2036 2 years ago
Here here!
NickWoha 2 years ago
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BobrDick1 2 years ago
So Native Americans are gay?
KruNae 2 years ago
Yes, some of us are. Native Americans also accepted transgendered people into their communities without a problem. You'll just have to deal with that.
aratinacage 2 years ago 6
I live in SF, I'm used to it.
KruNae 2 years ago
yeah but he doesn't support gay marriage. He might as well piss on his grave to close.
PersonalJesus348 2 years ago
actuallty harvey milk would have laughed at that he was not one for marriage
kirkboi 2 years ago
Lol! Who invited the Village People?
charbroiledmonk1033 2 years ago
I think recognizing Milk like this qualifies as Obama throwing the GLBT community a bone. Symbolic gestures are appreciated, but this is not what the GLBT community needs (and Obama knows it). GLBT need meat, not bones. Repeal DADT. Repeal DOMA. Give gays the same rights as straights. Allow America to live up to its promise that ALL, not some, are created equally (& thus should be treated equally)
dafttool 2 years ago 5
Here here!
mfishrules 2 years ago
Keep in mind who murdered Harvey Milk.
Keep that in mind.
Nice to see some Native Americans in the crowd.
wervasdeferens 2 years ago
Wow! This is right on!
JasonMelancon 2 years ago
Seeing Sidney Poitier made my goosebumps come out. He has done so much for the AA community that it is taken for granted.
someperson111 2 years ago
I'm proud of you Obama. Pulled a few bullshit kicks in the past few months, goods, bads; but this is far closer to the internal positive doctrine that your campaign ran on.
Awesome.
Very few other men deserve such a great honor as Milk.
TAz69x 2 years ago 2
Obama is all about trying to raise his public approval ratings - and that is what this whole thing is about.
feurzug 2 years ago
Yeah sure, the best way for a politician to raise his approval ratings in a country teeming with homophobes and inbred troglodytes is to publicly commend a gay man.
Next thing you're probably gonna tell is for a Latino to get on the good side of white racists is to advocate illegal immigration and a $5000 tax credit for each newborn child.
You stupid fuck!
SabuPtolemy 2 years ago
Obama has been LOSING HIS BASE.
With all of his "compromising" with Republicans on health care -- WHICH IS NOT WHAT WE ELECTED HIM AND GAVE HIM 60 SEATS IN THE SENATE TO ACCOMPLISH!!! -- the left is expressing DISAPPROVAL.
Its not the right who is leaving him. THEY NEVER LIKED HIM!! His approval ratings are plummeting, because he has taken the public option off the table. And single payer never even got ON the table!!
He better GET BACK to the man we elected.
taoofmichael 2 years ago
I agree. We do not have to be bi-partisan. That seems to be the excuse everytime the president won't pass something. Or allow the American people to set the standard. I still like him. But my vote can be used elsewhere.
RodgersRevolution 2 years ago 2
"Their relationship was troubled: McKinley was prone to depression and frequently threatened to commit suicide if Milk did not show him enough attention.[13] To make a point to McKinley, Milk took him to the hospital where Milk's ex-lover Joe Campbell was recuperating from a suicide attempt, after his lover—a man named Billy Sipple—left him."
He was against big government!
TheMadronas 2 years ago
the "goldwater republicans" were conservative. gay rights at the time would have been more embraced by conservatives -- real conservatives. less govternment -- as in keep your laws out of my bedroom. at the time the apa still decried homosexuality as a mental disorder. ask relatives -- you usually had to produce an opposite sex spouse for any professional job. it was a different world and conservatives weren't neo-conservatives yet. i can't name a real conservative in govt now -- can you?
gisforgary 2 years ago
"He started a relationship with Jack Galen McKinley, and recruited him in the fight against the proliferation of big government by persuading McKinley to work on conservative Republican Barry Goldwater's 1964 presidential campaign.
TheMadronas 2 years ago
the best President
MrSyntha6 2 years ago 3
What about Harvey's enthusiastic and wholhearted support of Jim Jones and the People's Temple?
iamjackscolin 2 years ago
He did not enthusiastically support Jim Jones, nor did he support him wholeheartedly. Jim Jones was a powerful man in San Francisco during the 70s and many politicos attempted to stay on his good side. Harvey was frightened by Jone's influence and saw it as a necessary evil to do moderate business with him. Their relationship went no further than Jones ordering a few of his followers to campaign for Milk.
PoliticalJunkie2036 2 years ago
"Rev. Jones is widely known in the minority communities here and elsewhere as a man of the highest character"
Excerpt from a letter to then President Carter defending Jim Jones, AFTER defaming articles had already been published.
I'm not saying he knew what was at the heart of People's Temple and overlooked it, or was at even charmed, but he didn't look any further than the fact that "they can get me some more votes." Just like any other politician.
iamjackscolin 2 years ago
I stand by my previous statement. What you have just stated isn't proof that Harvey was "just another politician." Again, Milk knew the influence of Jones and the purpose of a campaign is to win**, not lose. I'd take votes from anyone I could get. If they vote for me they endorse me, I don't endorse them. Jones played his hand in many other local politico's campaigns as well. I'm sure he did defend Jones in the context of the times, for no one knew what was really going on w/ the Peo. Temple.
PoliticalJunkie2036 2 years ago
"If they vote for me they endorse me, I don't endorse them."
What is the f&%king point in representative government if you don't? Perhaps it's nothing more than a series of contests to win? Actors in a 'Fantasy Primary'
I would think that a man with so much influence would be one to be scrutinized, rather than taken at face value.
"no one knew what was really going on w/ the Peo. Temple. "
Enough people knew to speak out about abuses going on there.
iamjackscolin 2 years ago
During the GOP primaries in 2008 it was discovered that quite a few Klan members supported Ron Paul. Do you think that Ron Paul was a racist, or endorsed their behavior or even their views? No, of course not. However, he took their money. Does that make him a bad person? Plenty of powerful people are taken at face value to then be uncovered as wackos. Your out-of-context snippets isn't enough to turn Milk into an ass.
PoliticalJunkie2036 2 years ago
Those snippets were intended to make you into the ass, although I don't think you need my help.
enough of this comment nonsense, expect a video...
iamjackscolin 2 years ago
since christians have the highest divorce rate in America, i believe they should NOT be allowed to marry.
christians are destroying the sanctity of marriage!!
ironchopsticks 2 years ago 5
would he have gotten this without the movie
jenisoutofhermind 2 years ago
Yes.
CaramelAnt 2 years ago
The anti-gay people have already lost, now they seem determined to lose with absolutely no grace or dignity whatsoever.
CaramelAnt 2 years ago 3
when did they ever have grace or dignity? hatred and bigotry are only qualities to strive for when you have no concept of morality. like fundamentalists.
gisforgary 2 years ago
obama isn't liberal enough
nomercyrules10 2 years ago
Don't "feed" the trolls.
voyeurdug 2 years ago
What if we feed them to each other? Or themselves? No. You're right. There are a few that simply should not be fed.
GrrlzwillbeBoizATX 2 years ago
This is great, but the president needs to support marriage equality by the time 2012 rolls around, and do something on DADT (how idiotic can policy get?) yesterday.
Millenials (we're a significant part of the coalition that elected him) understand the political considerations, but at some point Democratic leaders have to acknowledge the inescapable truth. Our gay friends, co - workers, and neighbors deserve the same rights we have. For them not to have them is just plain wrong.
MichaelConrad1D 2 years ago
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shut up obama, you are a far left liberal butcase. you ran on hope, but your actions are nothing but socialist.
sharinganclan213 2 years ago
What does socialist mean?
SuperEvilC 2 years ago
When the tyrants elected to office try to take away your ice cream.
yanks1022 2 years ago
I don't even have any ice cream to take.
SuperEvilC 2 years ago
toilet paper rationing! toilet paper rationing is socialism! thats what you get with a moor in the white house! read Othello! Socialism!
gisforgary 2 years ago
I think you're going to be able to wipe your ass just fine.
SuperEvilC 2 years ago
Othello! LMFAO! My favorite YouTube comment of the week. Thanks. (Psssst... it's gonna fly over a few heads though, my friend.)
GrrlzwillbeBoizATX 2 years ago
"socialist." Do you even know what that means? In Sweden, during the financial crisis, the Govt. took over a bankrupting bank, got it back on its feet and sold it with profit. Change the system, dont throw money at it.
wimscheers 2 years ago
DADT is so fucking stupid. A co-worker of mine recently told my boss that he's gay. And no one gave a shit. Which is good. Because your sexual orientation doesn't automatically mean you can't hold a gun.
keyboardcatmoon 2 years ago 3
give them hope while keeping DADT and upholding bigoted anti-gay marriage laws
nomercyrules10 2 years ago 4
No shit. I wanna like Obama. I really do. I voted for him. But I'm just continuously let down by him.
billwenham 2 years ago
billwenham you have a friend here. The first step toward happiness - believe me you could be my kid - s to let go of all kind of "cults" created by men.Please read my channel. Religion, bible, Torah, Coran et al are but created by a bunch of psychotics which never, ever should be allowed to be published. the fact that makes us decent does not rely on any fairy tale book but within ourselves. This is the gos people should believe. This is the reason god gave us gray matter and enabled us to think
classicallady 2 years ago
Give some hope to Dan Choi
kevmo99 2 years ago 8
Honor our soldiers by repealing DADT.
kevkevinkev 2 years ago 12
Oh the conservatives are gonna love this....
mw2000 2 years ago 12
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Obama who was elected to bring our troops home spontaneously reneged on all his promises upon election
His masters paid 2 billion to get him elected; now he announced plans to start a seven million man personal army or Brown Shirt Gestapo
Meanwhile the Veterans Disarmament Bill was passed removing gun ownership from many Vets
Obama has just been sued over Napoleon-tino's latest Law Enforcement mandate to imprison anyone that objects to Obama's plans
sugarpuddin88 2 years ago
Do you have any responses that aren't pre-typed?
filorps 2 years ago
Even Obama's plan to bring troops home was a 16 months plan, get your facts straight before you start bitching.
**
Just watched the 2009 Presidential medal of Freedom on tv, so moving.
ver506 2 years ago
You are correct: His commitment to bring combat troops home by May 20, 2010, and end the war gave him an edge among Democrats over candidate Hillary Clinton - But it was a lie: He has increased troops & promises to leave residual troops!
Obama promised to reduce defense spending; but increased it this year by 8%
Obama's words, America must "lead the world in battling immediate evils and promoting the ultimate good."
He wants to add 65,000 troops to the Army and recruit 27,000 more Marines.
sugarpuddin88 2 years ago
hey hey ver
classicallady 2 years ago
Hey hey classicallady, do we know each other?
ver506 2 years ago
Don't think so sewwt hear but everyday I make friends here.Peace.
classicallady 2 years ago
Barack, it sounds good but you need to look into prop 8. For real. Let those people get married.
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Currently, the world is forming ad-hoc currency baskets for trade in order to get away from the contamination, which is the US dollar, (google: Shanghai Organizational Coop); & setting up for a new World Order Currency
Meanwhile, the USA has Stockholm Syndrome, where the terrorized population through Obama actually supports their terrorist: Last week Obama is actually giving more power to their captors, the Federal Reserve Bank, rather than prosecuting them
sugarpuddin88 2 years ago
You're kinda nutty.
upabittoolate 2 years ago 2
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Bernanke, Geithner, Rubens, Summers, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan & the Federal Reserve Bank know exactly what they are doing by collapsing the US Dollar:
The purpose of this financial crisis is to take down the U.S. dollar as the stable datum of planetary finance and, in the midst of the resulting confusion, put in its place a Global Monetary Authority [GMA - run directly by international bankers freed of any government control] -a planetary financial control organization" - Bruce Wiseman
sugarpuddin88 2 years ago
Uhhhh, you mean the International Monetary Fund? Doesn't seem so bad.
keyboardcatmoon 2 years ago
European & American state aid is interlocked into the International Bank of Settlements, which is tied to World Bank, which is tied into the IMF, which is like all things: Tied into Goldman Sachs!
AIG is run by Edley of Goldman Sachs!
All roads lead to: Goldman Sachs!
Why don't sheeple want to be independent of Goldman Sachs & JP Morgan?
Instead their lives are dictated to by a bunch of arbitrage wielding sycophants & sociopathic criminals who profit by destroying the system!
sugarpuddin88 2 years ago
arrest the Fed, seize their assets, and jail all that rob the treasury, but we could start with Goldman Sachs, just so long as we get started. tj
tj5555555 2 years ago
How about D.E. Shaw & Co, World Trade Organization, Bechtel, RAND Corporation, Albright Stonebridge Group, Koch Industries, Project for the New American Century, World Business Council for Sustainable Development, Bank for International Settlements, American Enterprise Institute, Mitre Corporation, St. Petersburg Times, Latham & Watkins, and the International Institute for Strategic Studies?
Do you know any of these?! No. I thought so. You think Goldman Sachs is evil, wow...you have no idea...
keyboardcatmoon 2 years ago
st pete times on the same list as rand, aei, etc gives me reason to ponder why. maybe i am just outdated. i thought st pete times was one of the few independent papers left.
goldman sachs was given a big shiny colorful beach ball by the united states government and they ran with it. calling them evil for playing inside the rules the government made for them is missing the point of why government and business shouldn't be in bed together unless your idol is benito mussolini.
gisforgary 2 years ago
St. Peter Times is not run by Jesus. Paul Tash sits on the Pulitzer Prize board. Politifact got a Pulitzer Prize. Paul Tash gave himself an award. Paul Tash sold CQ to The Economist (a.k.a Rothschild) Just like any other business, it has a hole that leads to some kind of ridiculous conspiracy theory.
Having a lot of former employees in the government doesn't make Goldman Sachs evil. UBS sits on Obama's Economic Recovery Board. And that still doesn't stop the IRS from tearing UBS apart.
keyboardcatmoon 2 years ago
To my knowledge, the only thing Goldman Sachs is guilty of is "liking money". Not some kind conspiracy theory that GS is trying to take over the world (impossible). In fact, you would be surprised at how little GS know.
GS advised Dun & Bradstreet to give up ACNielsen and Moody's. Bad move by D&B. That's why they moved all their assets to Pictet & Cie. This idea that Rothschild own all the major banks in the world is also bullshit. Trust me. Rothschild has nothing on P&C. They're competitors.
keyboardcatmoon 2 years ago
i am sure if you told people at gs they didn't own the world it would come as a big surprise to them though. i think if the country were a little less religious we wouldn't be so eager to play the devil card. gs got a major boost with paulson/kashari. it cost a lot so i hope they enjoyed it. i think you are right they did nothing illegal -- the stayed inside government rules which allowed them to do everything they did no matter how stupid.
gisforgary 2 years ago
Those were just some totally random organizations I flung out to you. I can name at least 50 more because I KNOW MORE THAN YOU. And if you think Goldman Sachs is evil, then you drank the Alex Jones kool-aid. Goldman Sachs is the least of our worry. You don't really know how this world works, do you?
keyboardcatmoon 2 years ago
keyboard..finally someone with intellect here. kudos
classicallady 2 years ago
sugarpuddintheinbred..stop copy/pasting honey. it shows an appalling intellect you know? Like sarh failing?
classicallady 2 years ago
get a life, we get it you hate obama with a burning passion, no need to tell us 12 times
sourdiezel0916 2 years ago 2
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America bankrupt:
102 trillion for SS & medicare
25 trillion for TARP & bailouts
53 trillion plundered from other trusts
Every single American man, woman & child owes over $600K in FED Gov debt
The US dollar will collapse within the next 1 to 2 years
Check out Rockefeller & Senate Bills 773 & 778 attempting to end American access to the Internet
Americans lost all but no. 3 of their Bill of Rights; Geithner has been wrong about everything for 15 straight years!
1 in 10 on US food stamps!
sugarpuddin88 2 years ago
honor him with some real change in glbt rights! we're still waiting for hate crimes, ENDA, DOMA repeal and DADT repeal... Please show us some of the change you promised us in the campaign!
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Like many socialist before him, Obama never held a real job in the private sector, (outside short stint as a trophy for a law firm), beyond childish fantasies of Utopia, he has never had to come to grips in any way with the problems of economics, (nor does he have any clear concept of the conditions that determine the character of a human society). Without market freedom the traffic signals of reward & incentive that point the best direction for the future investment of our activity are missing
sugarpuddin88 2 years ago
sugarpuddin88 Please, please ask your mother NOT to have sex with her brother again...Imagine how many schizos like you. dellusional paranoids white trailer trash will be there...you know, nothing personal against you but it's widely known ignorance breeds only stupidity. Inbred are NOT cool. get a job and move from the traler already. ok, I'm finish. Go back to play with your dildo
classicallady 2 years ago 3
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sugarpuddin88 2 years ago
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(Obama Broken Promises Cont)
No. 240: Tougher rules against revolving door for lobbyists and former officials
No. 508: Allow penalty-free hardship withdrawals from retirement accounts in 2008 and 2009
No. 511: Recognize the Armenian genocide
No. 517: Negotiate health care reform in public sessions televised on C-SPAN
sugarpuddin88 2 years ago
get a life.
MVX12 2 years ago
I understand your federally mandated American education was created by Rockefeller & Dewey so that you may become another "passive cog in the wheel of society"
I can tell because anyone educated elsewhere would "debate" rather than limit themselves to uncivilized pejoratives
Why don't you give it a try: Explain the merit of your claim
Try it: See if you can rub together a couple brain cells to create a spark of dialog
sugarpuddin88 2 years ago
tnichlsn Take it easy. I am a supporter of glbt rights too but right now this country NEEDS to get health care first and foremost. Peace. He will.
classicallady 2 years ago
sugarpuddin88 2 years ago
(Obama Broken Promises Cont)
No. 240: Tougher rules against revolving door for lobbyists and former officials
No. 508: Allow penalty-free hardship withdrawals from retirement accounts in 2008 and 2009
No. 511: Recognize the Armenian genocide
No. 517: Negotiate health care reform in public sessions televised on C-SPAN
sugarpuddin88 2 years ago
LOL,
No. 517
wervasdeferens 2 years ago