The tax rate for the wealthiest Americans is lower now than it was under Reagan and much lower than the rate paid under Eisenhower. In fact, there is little difference between the percentage paid now than under Bush.
the same can be said with capitalism why should a ceo make a lot more money from the hard work of his employees,and how could an employee be a rich man like the ceo? Those who do not work does not eat(from the bible),but who decides the work you do is enough,if you work 3 jobs and work 18 hours a day shouldn't that make a millionaire? rather than the guy who just sits in his office and manages the hedge fund
Obama has more interest in taking care of millions of illegal aliens...including the ones in his own family...then actaully fixing anything in this nation. The more people on public assistance...the more votes for Obama. California used to be such a nice place...shame.
I live in Ca. I have never in the 30 yrs I've been here see unemployment this bad.
While so many Americans are out of work, Obama & the Labor Department have already launched a program to allow hundreds of thousands of illegals to work in the US. Also note that this program was launched months before his expected jobs speech tonight. This , because he wants these illegals to say in the US instead of going back to Mexico which is just down the street
Clap louder, u fools, Never tried pushing rope uphill, R-U ? Whenever gov causes a crisis, WA & the president will almost surely give even more power & authority to the agency that's most responsible for the calamity ! I guess that’s all it takes, a speech by the president on the jamming $300 billion more adrenaline into the nation’s arteries to keep that pulse going. Americans love fairy tales. I can barely stand to hear the sound of his voice. Its static to my ears.
Obama & his hand outs Thats how he's winning, to many lazy ****s in this country. Wlling to blindly follow him as he promises free $!
Thats how all totalitarian dictatorship & communistic govt takes power. Congratulations america, we will never be the same. Govt is already taking over banks & businesses.
We have a chance to find a different leader before completely turning R backs on everything WA fought the British for.
Rich & slaves, back to 1860, with no Lincoln in sight
(D) @proatmetazine30906..CONT'D..deficit and the national debt ballooning futher out of control than ever. In 2012, Barack will be unfairly blamed for the failure to get the economy moving, caused by the Republicans. He may be defeated, and replaced by another Republican, who will resume the destruction of the US economy from where George W. left off. US GDP will then collapse to the point where China will become the leading nation, simply by having the largest GDP and strongest economy.
@rjemca You are very simple minded. See needing a page to try to explain your point. Since when did Australia become the economic example for the world? The US cannot sustain current deficit levels. Cuts need to be made. Based on your stupid rambling thoughts Greece would have the optimal economy.
(C) @proatmetazine30906...CONT'D...emigrate here as refugees from the developing economic catastrophe back home.
By that, I mean the deficit-reduction plan forced on Barack by the republicans will have the opposite effect from what they intended. Business, the rich, the well-to-do and the Tea Party crackpots will all have this plan backfire catastrophically on them, when the economy collapses due to collapsing demand, accompanied by further-collapsing tax revenues, unemployment, the..CONT'D
(B) @proatmetazine30906...CONT'D...neither side of politics ever lets the government become starved of revenue. This enables the government to play its proper role in the economy. This, plus the fact that Australia is also not making many other mistakes that the USA is making, benefits Australia and its people hugely.
You probably didn't notice, but the one developed economy which continued growing through the GFC was Australia's.
We would welcome any Americans who would like to...CONT'D
(A) @proatmetazine30906...I live in Australia, which, like many countries, has a redistributive tax scale. The tax-free threshold is $6,000, so no one pays any tax on the first $6,000. The marginal tax rates increase progressively for higher tax brackets.
I have never heard of any Australian complaining, 'Why should I pay higher taxes just because someone else got unlucky breaks in life?'
We are lucky in Australia, our politicians are just ordinary, garden-variety bastards, and..CONT'D
@PrisonerNumber9653. the system is stacked to make EVERYONE richer, not just the rich. this bullshit about poor people getting poorer is false. if you tracked the average poor person 30 years ago, they're probably not poor anymore, and they've been replaced by immigrants. when you put tax equality above economic growth. you produce neither. anyone bitching about income gaps would rather have the poor poorer to make the rich less rich. if you dont believe this, you dont believe in capitalism!
what about the middle class working people (who the gov is stealing there money left and right) we just give more money and more money untill we are in the low poverty gourp?
@waldokoala In addition to being a racist jackass, you're a stunningly naive fool. The idea that all the wealthy people just "went to class" is complete bullshit. The entire system is stacked so the rich get richer and the poor get screwed, and the right TALKS a good game about education, even as they cut funding for schools and, with the scumbag governor of Wisconsin as exhibit A, attack teachers viciously.
No, the rich don't "deserve" it, any more than ANYONE "deserves" poverty.
You idiot conservatives make me laugh. I don't know how anyone could listen to this and think what he's saying is bad.
You shit your pants everytime he talks about redistribution. Its thanks to dumbasses like you that 90% of the country's wealth is controlled by 2% of the population.
You are playing right into the hands of the wealthy elite when you criticize Obama for his plans.
What you fools on the left don't grasp is that it is not the government's job to spread the wealth.......by stealing from those that have a little more. It is THEFT..period. If you want more then work harder and smarter. If I want to help someone financially that is my decision not the government's. Government is NOT DADDY. Obama is a NEW WORLD ORDER socialist. Look at the first bill he tried passing as a Senator..GLOBAL POVERTY ACT & it had nothing to do with America! He is a demonic traitor!
@onenordic Take a look China's enonomy, and then take a look at our country? Our country is DYING and people in the higher income brackets our not getting robbed they are actually getting tax breaks, they should be entitled to pay the same percentage of taxes as someone who is making 60,000 dollars a year. People like you are the reason America probably will die and i hope we get taken over by China at least they won't run the fucking country into the dirt like our country has.
I have been a volunteer victims advocate for over 20 years...I truly believe that Obama is clinically insane. What he is doing will have the streets of America running in blood, just like the third world getting million$ from US. I've never in my life had a gun in my home...and never will..but some of my neighbors are buying guns for the first time. I see too many people buying guns at major stores. If this continues Washington DC will scream "90% increase gun buying!!" and impeach Obama ?
@erhhervictims Obama is over in Latin America and has invaded Libya ILLEGALLY and continues to redistribute the wealth from the estate of Honey R. Siegal deceased. I am Honey R. Siegal. I am not DEAD. Obama is a bankster engaged in bank fraud doing the Chicago dance being paid as a hit man on the US. The Congress is clinically insane thinking that kickbacks and earmarks are in the Constitution as well BS OBAMA who will not show the people his curriculum vitae. We The People say REMOVE AND INDICT
@erhhervictims ...the crime rate in the USA has been decreasing very steadily in the last couple years. and whether not people are buying guns has nothing to do with Obama.....i think you are the insane one
Obama is a embarrassment , not good on his feet. A great speaker when the words are written out FOR him. He went to Harvard to be a attorney, but couldn't make it at that either. If he has to think about what he's saying on the spot, he's dead meat. He's going to have a problem unless he sticks to his talking points since that is basically a written out speech. Politicians & Preachers ! Two professions that take just a good sales pitch to get over on the masses.
Before these jokers tell us how they will spend our money maybe we should demand that all Government Leaders (including president) are paid whatever is the prevailing National Average.. i suspect if we implimented such a plan the National Average might actually increase.
Can anyone please name a country that has done this and had positive results?There is a reason China is breezing ahead of us.There standard if living still sucks and is communistic like Barack Likes
Obama wants fairness, really, then why is he taking away the concept of the American Dream, and replacing it with the myth of a Free Lunch?
Eventually he will run out of other peoples money. What kind of damn fool is going to give half their livelihood to wealth redistribution? Better to just get in line.
I think All Democrats holding Any Government job elected or not, D. Religious Leaders & every day democrat people should liquidate All their assets & give every penny to the Government to show Republicans they are serious about redistribution of wealth. Then the Gov. can redistribute all monies amongst themselves for the space of oh say, 5 years. Then we can see if All democrats are happier living their new deal, & if they are I’m glad, but I still want to make my own choices my own way.
Why should any tax payer pay a higher % per dollar? Obama says" fair" like he means it, but he thinks he needs to level the playing field by punishing people who have the discipline to get ahead. Lower taxes and insure an equal opportunity, but do no harm.
The people who are constantly saying things along the lines of welfare people being "lazy" or don't "try hard enough" are just blind to the reality of this world we live in. THERE CANNOT BE RICH WITHOUT POOR. When there are filthy rich people, there HAS to be filthy poor people. It's just the way things are. So no, they are not ALL lazy, and a lot of them DO try VERY HARD, but it takes money to make money friends.
@jah21haj I once saw a documentary where a man pretended to be homeless for a month. Every single homeless person he spoke to said the exact same thing, that they chose to be homeless in order to do drugs. And you want to give these crackheads more free money that they did not earn? This is your economic solution? Guess what, if you give these crackheads a million dollars each, they would not suddenly change their minds and become successful entrepreneurs, they would spend it on crack!!
Rich people or wealthy people always have the same response to this...YOU CAN'T TAKE MY HARD EARNED MONEY...come on assholes...If you make 500K a year and the gov takes 200K for taxes WHO CARES...YOU STILL MAKE 300K THAT YEAR WHILE OTHERS MAKE 20K TO DO WORK THATS JUST AS STRESSFUL or MORE STRESSFUL than what you do...stop being money grubbing whores. What do you have to say about the adults of our time who are only rich from inheritance? Did they work hard for that?
Yea Obama... lets make sure you take away from the people who have worked VERY hard all their lives to get to where they are now and that you refer to as "rich"... Obama wants to take away from the true, honest, hard working Americans and give it all to the lazy, welfare recipients, who could give a rats ass who pays for it as long as they don't have to work... Thats how Liberals are... LAZY AND WEAK !!!! WE have one, pathetic government !!!!!
Yea Obama... lets make sure you take away from the people who have worked VERY hard all their lives to get to where they are now and that you refer to as "rich"... Obama wants to take away from the true, honest, hard working Americans and give it all to the lazy, welfare recipients, who could give a rats ass who pays for it as long as they don't have to work... Thats how Liberals are... LAZY AND WEAK !!!! WE have one, pathetic government !!!!!
Yea Obama... lets make sure you take away from the people who have worked VERY hard all their lives to get to where they are now and that you refer to as "rich"... Obama wants to take away from the true, honest, hard working Americans and give it all to the lazy, welfare recipients, who could give a rats ass who pays for it as long as they don't have to work... Thats how Liberals are... LAZY AND WEAK !!!! WE have one, pathetic government !!!!!
Yea Obama... lets make sure you take away from the people who have worked VERY hard all their lives to get to where they are now and that you refer to as "rich"... Obama wants to take away from the true, honest, hard working Americans and give it all to the lazy, welfare recipients, who could give a rats ass who pays for it as long as they don't have to work... Thats how Liberals are... LAZY AND WEAK !!!! WE have one, pathetic government !!!!!
welfare works so well. Statistically speaking it has promote so much upward mobility . oh wait it worked backwards? it created less social mobility? you don't say.
Excellent idea, just redistribute it downwards for a change. Working people have been left out of the success of business for decades ....thats always been the real wealth redistribution. The statistics bare this out. Thats the crime.
How many restaurants has this guy been to? Yet he still doesn't know that servers make less than minimum wage? WTF??? Yeah...absolutely ZERO experience.
People who take those Jobs know what they are getting paid when they sign up, and get hired. And most that i know make a killing. So i wouldn't be making a fusss about waitresses
The tax rate for the wealthiest Americans is lower now than it was under Reagan and much lower than the rate paid under Eisenhower. In fact, there is little difference between the percentage paid now than under Bush.
TheDakota671 2 months ago
the same can be said with capitalism why should a ceo make a lot more money from the hard work of his employees,and how could an employee be a rich man like the ceo? Those who do not work does not eat(from the bible),but who decides the work you do is enough,if you work 3 jobs and work 18 hours a day shouldn't that make a millionaire? rather than the guy who just sits in his office and manages the hedge fund
Lubotsulat 3 months ago 2
Aren't all taxes essentially wealth distribution? You make it sound like the concept was invented just recently
11111110 3 months ago
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Obama has more interest in taking care of millions of illegal aliens...including the ones in his own family...then actaully fixing anything in this nation. The more people on public assistance...the more votes for Obama. California used to be such a nice place...shame.
onstageagain 4 months ago
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I live in Ca. I have never in the 30 yrs I've been here see unemployment this bad.
While so many Americans are out of work, Obama & the Labor Department have already launched a program to allow hundreds of thousands of illegals to work in the US. Also note that this program was launched months before his expected jobs speech tonight. This , because he wants these illegals to say in the US instead of going back to Mexico which is just down the street
onstageagain 4 months ago
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Clap louder, u fools, Never tried pushing rope uphill, R-U ? Whenever gov causes a crisis, WA & the president will almost surely give even more power & authority to the agency that's most responsible for the calamity ! I guess that’s all it takes, a speech by the president on the jamming $300 billion more adrenaline into the nation’s arteries to keep that pulse going. Americans love fairy tales. I can barely stand to hear the sound of his voice. Its static to my ears.
onstageagain 4 months ago
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Obama & his hand outs Thats how he's winning, to many lazy ****s in this country. Wlling to blindly follow him as he promises free $!
Thats how all totalitarian dictatorship & communistic govt takes power. Congratulations america, we will never be the same. Govt is already taking over banks & businesses.
We have a chance to find a different leader before completely turning R backs on everything WA fought the British for.
Rich & slaves, back to 1860, with no Lincoln in sight
onstageagain 4 months ago
(D) @proatmetazine30906..CONT'D..deficit and the national debt ballooning futher out of control than ever. In 2012, Barack will be unfairly blamed for the failure to get the economy moving, caused by the Republicans. He may be defeated, and replaced by another Republican, who will resume the destruction of the US economy from where George W. left off. US GDP will then collapse to the point where China will become the leading nation, simply by having the largest GDP and strongest economy.
rjemca 5 months ago
@rjemca You are very simple minded. See needing a page to try to explain your point. Since when did Australia become the economic example for the world? The US cannot sustain current deficit levels. Cuts need to be made. Based on your stupid rambling thoughts Greece would have the optimal economy.
jsosterhaus 4 months ago
(C) @proatmetazine30906...CONT'D...emigrate here as refugees from the developing economic catastrophe back home.
By that, I mean the deficit-reduction plan forced on Barack by the republicans will have the opposite effect from what they intended. Business, the rich, the well-to-do and the Tea Party crackpots will all have this plan backfire catastrophically on them, when the economy collapses due to collapsing demand, accompanied by further-collapsing tax revenues, unemployment, the..CONT'D
rjemca 5 months ago
(B) @proatmetazine30906...CONT'D...neither side of politics ever lets the government become starved of revenue. This enables the government to play its proper role in the economy. This, plus the fact that Australia is also not making many other mistakes that the USA is making, benefits Australia and its people hugely.
You probably didn't notice, but the one developed economy which continued growing through the GFC was Australia's.
We would welcome any Americans who would like to...CONT'D
rjemca 5 months ago
(A) @proatmetazine30906...I live in Australia, which, like many countries, has a redistributive tax scale. The tax-free threshold is $6,000, so no one pays any tax on the first $6,000. The marginal tax rates increase progressively for higher tax brackets.
I have never heard of any Australian complaining, 'Why should I pay higher taxes just because someone else got unlucky breaks in life?'
We are lucky in Australia, our politicians are just ordinary, garden-variety bastards, and..CONT'D
rjemca 5 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653. the system is stacked to make EVERYONE richer, not just the rich. this bullshit about poor people getting poorer is false. if you tracked the average poor person 30 years ago, they're probably not poor anymore, and they've been replaced by immigrants. when you put tax equality above economic growth. you produce neither. anyone bitching about income gaps would rather have the poor poorer to make the rich less rich. if you dont believe this, you dont believe in capitalism!
Welsh77 6 months ago
what about the middle class working people (who the gov is stealing there money left and right) we just give more money and more money untill we are in the low poverty gourp?
kskorcz 7 months ago
fuck this nigger, if you go to class and not be the jackass bullying people so you get a good job, you deserve the added benifts of your sucsess
waldokoala 9 months ago
@waldokoala In addition to being a racist jackass, you're a stunningly naive fool. The idea that all the wealthy people just "went to class" is complete bullshit. The entire system is stacked so the rich get richer and the poor get screwed, and the right TALKS a good game about education, even as they cut funding for schools and, with the scumbag governor of Wisconsin as exhibit A, attack teachers viciously.
No, the rich don't "deserve" it, any more than ANYONE "deserves" poverty.
PrisonerNumber9653 9 months ago
You idiot conservatives make me laugh. I don't know how anyone could listen to this and think what he's saying is bad.
You shit your pants everytime he talks about redistribution. Its thanks to dumbasses like you that 90% of the country's wealth is controlled by 2% of the population.
You are playing right into the hands of the wealthy elite when you criticize Obama for his plans.
Hellblazer311 10 months ago
What you fools on the left don't grasp is that it is not the government's job to spread the wealth.......by stealing from those that have a little more. It is THEFT..period. If you want more then work harder and smarter. If I want to help someone financially that is my decision not the government's. Government is NOT DADDY. Obama is a NEW WORLD ORDER socialist. Look at the first bill he tried passing as a Senator..GLOBAL POVERTY ACT & it had nothing to do with America! He is a demonic traitor!
onenordic 10 months ago
@onenordic Take a look China's enonomy, and then take a look at our country? Our country is DYING and people in the higher income brackets our not getting robbed they are actually getting tax breaks, they should be entitled to pay the same percentage of taxes as someone who is making 60,000 dollars a year. People like you are the reason America probably will die and i hope we get taken over by China at least they won't run the fucking country into the dirt like our country has.
DAY0FDOOM 9 months ago
I totally agree with Obama. Hes awesome.
theindigonation 11 months ago
@theindigonation awesome ? Obama will pay the price in 2012 like the last batch of liberal democrats paid last November....
hayden50 11 months ago
I have been a volunteer victims advocate for over 20 years...I truly believe that Obama is clinically insane. What he is doing will have the streets of America running in blood, just like the third world getting million$ from US. I've never in my life had a gun in my home...and never will..but some of my neighbors are buying guns for the first time. I see too many people buying guns at major stores. If this continues Washington DC will scream "90% increase gun buying!!" and impeach Obama ?
erhhervictims 11 months ago
@erhhervictims Obama is over in Latin America and has invaded Libya ILLEGALLY and continues to redistribute the wealth from the estate of Honey R. Siegal deceased. I am Honey R. Siegal. I am not DEAD. Obama is a bankster engaged in bank fraud doing the Chicago dance being paid as a hit man on the US. The Congress is clinically insane thinking that kickbacks and earmarks are in the Constitution as well BS OBAMA who will not show the people his curriculum vitae. We The People say REMOVE AND INDICT
HoneySiegalSurvivor 10 months ago
@erhhervictims ...the crime rate in the USA has been decreasing very steadily in the last couple years. and whether not people are buying guns has nothing to do with Obama.....i think you are the insane one
Treeonfire15 9 months ago
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Obama is a embarrassment , not good on his feet. A great speaker when the words are written out FOR him. He went to Harvard to be a attorney, but couldn't make it at that either. If he has to think about what he's saying on the spot, he's dead meat. He's going to have a problem unless he sticks to his talking points since that is basically a written out speech. Politicians & Preachers ! Two professions that take just a good sales pitch to get over on the masses.
Meaning YOU!
onstageagain 1 year ago
Before these jokers tell us how they will spend our money maybe we should demand that all Government Leaders (including president) are paid whatever is the prevailing National Average.. i suspect if we implimented such a plan the National Average might actually increase.
AdonisKingAXC 1 year ago
There is no such thing as an american dream. That is all i have to say.
nathanielroller15 1 year ago
Can anyone please name a country that has done this and had positive results?There is a reason China is breezing ahead of us.There standard if living still sucks and is communistic like Barack Likes
proatmetazine30906 1 year ago 3
Obama wants fairness, really, then why is he taking away the concept of the American Dream, and replacing it with the myth of a Free Lunch?
Eventually he will run out of other peoples money. What kind of damn fool is going to give half their livelihood to wealth redistribution? Better to just get in line.
plum26754 1 year ago
I think All Democrats holding Any Government job elected or not, D. Religious Leaders & every day democrat people should liquidate All their assets & give every penny to the Government to show Republicans they are serious about redistribution of wealth. Then the Gov. can redistribute all monies amongst themselves for the space of oh say, 5 years. Then we can see if All democrats are happier living their new deal, & if they are I’m glad, but I still want to make my own choices my own way.
rt2wshp 1 year ago
Why should any tax payer pay a higher % per dollar? Obama says" fair" like he means it, but he thinks he needs to level the playing field by punishing people who have the discipline to get ahead. Lower taxes and insure an equal opportunity, but do no harm.
john51880 1 year ago
The people who are constantly saying things along the lines of welfare people being "lazy" or don't "try hard enough" are just blind to the reality of this world we live in. THERE CANNOT BE RICH WITHOUT POOR. When there are filthy rich people, there HAS to be filthy poor people. It's just the way things are. So no, they are not ALL lazy, and a lot of them DO try VERY HARD, but it takes money to make money friends.
jah21haj 1 year ago
@jah21haj I once saw a documentary where a man pretended to be homeless for a month. Every single homeless person he spoke to said the exact same thing, that they chose to be homeless in order to do drugs. And you want to give these crackheads more free money that they did not earn? This is your economic solution? Guess what, if you give these crackheads a million dollars each, they would not suddenly change their minds and become successful entrepreneurs, they would spend it on crack!!
DonnyDeutschisBigBro 1 year ago
Rich people or wealthy people always have the same response to this...YOU CAN'T TAKE MY HARD EARNED MONEY...come on assholes...If you make 500K a year and the gov takes 200K for taxes WHO CARES...YOU STILL MAKE 300K THAT YEAR WHILE OTHERS MAKE 20K TO DO WORK THATS JUST AS STRESSFUL or MORE STRESSFUL than what you do...stop being money grubbing whores. What do you have to say about the adults of our time who are only rich from inheritance? Did they work hard for that?
jah21haj 1 year ago
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Yea Obama... lets make sure you take away from the people who have worked VERY hard all their lives to get to where they are now and that you refer to as "rich"... Obama wants to take away from the true, honest, hard working Americans and give it all to the lazy, welfare recipients, who could give a rats ass who pays for it as long as they don't have to work... Thats how Liberals are... LAZY AND WEAK !!!! WE have one, pathetic government !!!!!
e081194eng 1 year ago
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Yea Obama... lets make sure you take away from the people who have worked VERY hard all their lives to get to where they are now and that you refer to as "rich"... Obama wants to take away from the true, honest, hard working Americans and give it all to the lazy, welfare recipients, who could give a rats ass who pays for it as long as they don't have to work... Thats how Liberals are... LAZY AND WEAK !!!! WE have one, pathetic government !!!!!
e081194eng 1 year ago
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Yea Obama... lets make sure you take away from the people who have worked VERY hard all their lives to get to where they are now and that you refer to as "rich"... Obama wants to take away from the true, honest, hard working Americans and give it all to the lazy, welfare recipients, who could give a rats ass who pays for it as long as they don't have to work... Thats how Liberals are... LAZY AND WEAK !!!! WE have one, pathetic government !!!!!
e081194eng 1 year ago
Yea Obama... lets make sure you take away from the people who have worked VERY hard all their lives to get to where they are now and that you refer to as "rich"... Obama wants to take away from the true, honest, hard working Americans and give it all to the lazy, welfare recipients, who could give a rats ass who pays for it as long as they don't have to work... Thats how Liberals are... LAZY AND WEAK !!!! WE have one, pathetic government !!!!!
e081194eng 1 year ago
welfare works so well. Statistically speaking it has promote so much upward mobility . oh wait it worked backwards? it created less social mobility? you don't say.
whendidconbecomelib 1 year ago 8
Excellent idea, just redistribute it downwards for a change. Working people have been left out of the success of business for decades ....thats always been the real wealth redistribution. The statistics bare this out. Thats the crime.
omegapointil 2 years ago
How many restaurants has this guy been to? Yet he still doesn't know that servers make less than minimum wage? WTF??? Yeah...absolutely ZERO experience.
motaloca 3 years ago
People who take those Jobs know what they are getting paid when they sign up, and get hired. And most that i know make a killing. So i wouldn't be making a fusss about waitresses
thomaspendergraft 2 years ago
by law severs are supposed to make at least minimum or more. if you make less then you should call the labor force.
beamo616 2 years ago
If servers in California are making $8 an hour, then there's no reason to tip. Look up server's wages in California. It should be $2.13/hr.
motaloca 2 years ago
Someone needs to stop this madman
psychomichael 3 years ago
agreed
inteli709 3 years ago