Has Mara examined the original or a certified copy of the original ?
If not then she can go on and on how the pfd file downloaded from the web is a forgery but it has no meaning as she is not examining the document in its original form.
yes ..its allegedly at the hawaii DOH ...however ,the director of same has refused an inspection of the original by a team of typography experts and cr taitz DESPITE being presented with a subpoena ...the excuse offered by the DOH ? the original is considered "Private "and to see it would invade obama's personal "privacy " ...thats right folks ,the VERY SAME one that the WH released to the entire world last april in a PDF image ...cannot be viewed in its original paper form ..why is that ,hmmm ?
Overview: for 2 + yrs, Gibbs (W.H. Press Secretary) said he had posted Obama's b.c. on the net which was just a computer created Certification not a Certificate which has a legal difference. Trump and WND book on the b.c. come out and immediately Obama has this photoshopped put out which has created movable layers, different phonts and numbers mixed, overlapping kerning script, and more. Several S.S. #'s especially from CT from a dead man, faked Selective S. Reg. Investgatigate & Impeach now!
@arrrogantlyignorant You are very wrong that a created birth certificate that is fraudulent is ok as long as the original is authentic. Even the first certification was only "filed" as it states on the bottom left and not "Accepted" as all others appear to be of that time. Also, the Hawaiian officials are not answering question about the public records and have issued contrary statements and the one chief clerk who worked there said there is no birth certificate!
Tim Adams claimed that he "was told there is no long form for Obama". Adams never identified his source nor did anyone ever corroborate his story. Adams is nothing but hearsay.
What question have Hawaiian officials not answered? What contrary statements?
The first Certification is a totally valid, legal, State certified birth certificate.
The pdf is not a legal document. Only the ACTUAL PAPER copy matters.
“California attorney Orly Taitz today secured an order from United States District Court Magistrate Judge Richard L. Puglisi demanding representatives of the Hawaii Department of Health appear in federal court Sept. 14 to show why Taitz should be prevented from seeing whatever original 1961 documents the agency has on record regarding Barack Obama’s birth.
You have this totally wrong. The "subpoena" that Taitz had 'served' was not a legal subpoena in the first place. She also did not serve it properly. The Court date in Sept is to determine whether a court order should be issued. It is not for the Hawaii Dept of Health to defend itself. It will be dismissed.
@arrrogantlyignorant cont...Taitz returned to federal court in Honolulu today after Hawaii DOH officials presented her with a letter refusing to comply with her subpoena on grounds that Hawaii privacy laws prevented officials from releasing Obama birth records to the public.
You getting it yet? Again there is no paper long form BC in Hawaii.
The Hawaii Dept of Health made it clear to Orly Taitz back in July, after her first bogus subpoena, that she does not have a direct or tangible interest in the vital records she is seeking from them.
Read: HRS §338-18
Learn to educate yourself and then perhaps you'll "get it".
Of course there is a paper long form bc in Hawaii. We already knew that from Dr Fukino's statements in Oct 2008 and again in July 2009.
@arrrogantlyignorant ...why should anyone automatically take Dr. Fukino's word for it as positive proof you ignorant fuck, that's your problem to start with, idiots like you believe anything you're told, and then there's people that strive to get facts and rely on documented facts that are proven by reliable sources. Anyone who supports this President Obama after all his failure is a pathetic moron, the Debt Ceiling is absolute proof of a complete failed Adminstration.
@guitarhaus the GOP CONGRESS under Bush raised the debt ceiling SEVEN TIMES. By your logic if Obama is a failure for doing it once then Bush is 7x times the failure of Obama... yes? Note: It took me 15 seconds to find this. With a little effort, you could research the claims you believe before you look completely asinine. You said "people that strive to get facts and rely on documented facts that are proven by reliable sources." That statement & you are epitome of cognitive dissonance... Peace
@Nathanielc2 Don't get your point. Obama has spent more than 5 trillion in 3 years surpassing the Bush Disaster................... Two idiots did a bad thing what difference does it make if it took bush 50 raises and Obama 3 raises. Obama is on track to crush Bush stupidity.
This video and others prove the birth certificate on the White House website is fraud at the highest level of our government by Obama. Congress can impeach Obama but in violation of the Constituion is not doing so. I can only think that the leaders of Congress will not expose Obama's dirty laundry because they have their own dirty laundry which will be exposed by Obama. It's time to wash our government's dirty laundry and send them the bill at election time!
Bottom line is an originall 1961 document, is NOT WHAT Obama showed to the American public after 2 years........ hes showed us a layered PDF fake......................... nIXONS WHITE WATER SCANDAL IS NOTHING COMPARED TO THIS...
Okay, now that you have this evidence, take it to a Republican secretary of state or state attorney general and have them file a charge in a federal court. They have standing to do as representing the state whereas we don't. There is in Ohio, Wisconsin, and Tennessee. This is important and you need to do this if you actually believe this is true.
Wow... Big surprise... All the 'Bama lovers out there are sure to come up with myriad reasons why this document contains "magical" layers which would normally never exist in a scanned document, whether it be a PDF, Illustrator, Photoshop, or any other Adobe Proprietary format. This is just more bombshell proof which will surely be dismissed, derided and ridiculed. It's a shame that the liberals are too damn stupid to realize the depth of this deception against the American People... WTF???
@kidkined I am young my friends arent liberal or con they are complete stooges that don't know about anything and don't care. For example in facebook I have 300 friends and about 5 to 10 are conservative, they don't care about this issue, they all like John McCain and they don't get into it. I have about 5 to 10 liberal friends and they don't talk about it or once in a while they just say I'm crazy. Some say this stuff is interesting but they never say anything about it to others. WTF is right.
@kidkinedik since when are layers magical? Layers are common. The only way you wouldn't have layers is if you were too lazy or ignorant to clean up the document or if you merged them when you were done. In fact, one could argue that if this document was a forgery, it likely would not contain layers. It certainly wouldn't have ghosting underneath like Obama's.
@bwebmasta1 I don't know about that. The most intelligent thing for me to do would be to stop wasting my time arguing with a bunch of nuts. It doesn't matter how thoroughly you destroy their argument, they remain unconvinced. They don't understand what they're talking about so they can't understand you when you prove them wrong. Birtherism is like a religion.
@bedspirit You can check the findings of the last BC yourself, using PHOTOSHOP and other softwares, it is been thoroughly debunked, multiple experts such as this womn have come forward to debunk it. It appears the only lunatic here is the person who refuses to accept what has been shown them.
The mistake that birthers make is that you cannot determine that the BC is a forgery by looking at a digital image of it. Only the actual paper copy matters, which the State of Hawaii has already said is authentic.
The pdf is not a legal document. It is not the Presidents birth certificate.
@usmc7242 You just condemened yourself, for the very image that OBAMA claimed was true and accurate is the one that is PROVEN to be an electronic fraud, MEANING the original is NOT like the electronic copy at all, is it?? YOU just proved it is a fraud yourself!
@usmc7242 Goddamn it! I'm tired of saying this over and over and over. You can't debunk this. I make PDF's all the time! They always have layers when I'm done. I know exactly what they look like. When I saw BO's birth certificate, I instantly recognized it. You can try it for yourself! This woman is a moron. She didn't even know what program was used despite the fact that it's in the metadata! It's as if you hear the word "expert" and you believe every word they say! she is no expert.
@bedspirit Well, if YOU believe that an original document can be copied into a PDF document with multiple layers, individual fonts, varying pixels within text groups, and numbers that do not match the font for those numbers, then...tell me...who is the idiot?? Why, I think it's YOU! Look at the number FOUR in the document's serial number, how did a CURVED LINE appear in the vertical line for the FOUR?
@usmc7242 you presume that the document on the internet was posted fresh off the scanner. Obviously, it was optimized for the web. Open up Photoshop or Gimp or Inkscape or whatever your favorite image manipulation program is (they used Quartz). Now run one of the fancier filters for sharpening or dust removal or whatever. Notice what happens... OMG where did all those layers come from? Holy crap! The original document must be a forgery because now I have a bunch layers!
@usmc7242 Don't you think that all these bizarre inconsistencies that you point out is evidence that it is not a forgery? If you were forging a document, why would you insert random curved lines, why change the font on the fly? why would some numbers be left blurry on the bottom layer and others sharp on the top layer? It would be more work to forge a document and have it look like this than it would to make it look pristine. Why don't you spend more time on all the real crap Obama has done?
@brixcity17 I don't know if the original document is a forgery either. I highly doubt it, but I'm not an expert in old birth certificates. All I'm saying is that the layers are the result of filters and not the result of a botched forgery. In my previous comment I should have used the word "genuine" in place of "pristine". If these inconsistencies that people are obsessing over were consciously place there by a forger, then what was his purpose? Why not save some work and leave them out?
@kidkinedik Don't get me wrong. I think Obama is a corrupt crony capitalist who's destroying the country, just like you (although you'd probably call him a socialist). This issue irritates me because it diverts attention from all the real sh!t that Obama is doing and makes the opposition look like a bunch of conspiracy minded rubes.
IF YOU FOUND A PIECE OF PAPER A DOCUMENT FROM 1961 IT WOULD NOT LOOK LIKE THE LAYERED LIESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS, YOU HAVE SEEN... IT WOULD OLD AND EXPOSED TO THE WHETHER................
Sheep will believe anything, ofcourse it fake. Whats worse is they waited 2 years to release this artwork we shall call it.............. Because it is not AN OFFICIAL DOCUMENT FROM 1961..
Do u really believe the president of the united states of america doesnt have the resources to produce, not a fake birth certificate but a birth certificate?!?!
I am not an expert of Adobe products. I've just taken some college classes and I use Adobe products frequently. Anyone; who knows even basics of Adobe products, specially Photoshop, knows that Obama's birth-certificate is fake.
However, nothing will happen to Obama even if an expert states about the birth-certificate is fake. Why? Because Obama has Adobe's CEO in his pockets. Google Obama Adobe CEO.
@AssocaitedPress Having that CEO in his back pocket would be totally useful if Adobe products were used in the creation of the document. Unfortunately, it wasn't made with Adobe products. Read some of the other comments. As many have pointed out, It was made with: Mac OS X 10.6.7 Quartz PDFContext. It's right there in the metadata. There's a gazillion videos that show how optimizing a document creates extra layers. I do it all the time. You should look beyond the basics of Photoshop.
@bedspirit The problem is, most people want to believe it is fake. So they ignore this fact, as with so many other things. It's easy to think or accept something negative with no proof, and hard to read, do research and actually attempt to be intelligent. Sometimes, I really wonder about the statement George Carlin made: What are we, effin stupid?" is regards to the common sense and logic of people.
@bedspirit I don't know whether to believe you or think that you are an 'INSIDE JOB'. Sorry, but that's just the way I feel. I DON'T FUCKING CARE WHAT PROGRAM WAS UTILIZED, IT'S A FUCKING FAKE....get it!
@bedspirit YOU FUCKING OBAMA SUPPORTER, ISN'T PDF an adobe product. FUCKING ASS HOLE TRYING TO SWAY SHIT ON DIFFERENT DIMENSION. why are you associated with OBAMA, WHY is your email a OBAMA RELATED email. FUCKING TRYING tow sway toward OBAMA by creating some bullshit. SEE THE FUCKING UPPER right hand corner of the document. PHOTOSHOP 101 tells you that anytime you have two or three different types of PIXES it is manipulated. DO YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND. you fucking sellout DEMONCRAT.
@AssocaitedPress Man, why do you want to make me repeat shit? I posted comments up and down on here that explain exactly why I don't think those layers imply forgery. The pixels you pointed out don't mean shit either. Yah, they were manipulated but it was for optimization and not to fake something. As far the original document goes, I don't know, I'm not an expert in historical documents. I know software. Why the hell do think I'm Obama related? What's the problem with my email?
@AssocaitedPress I've posted on here at least twice that I don't support Obama. He's a crony capitalist exactly like every president we've had since Carter. Notice that this week it was the Fed that fined Wells Fargo and not the DOJ? Do you wonder why? Because Obama is a Wallstreet loving fool, he's not going to bite the hand that feeds him. -Just because Obama is corrupt doesn't mean I can look at some this Birth Certificate nonsense and believe it. Who do you work for? WND?
Brave woman. She could end up dead. Or be Linda Tripp'd. And to what purpose? Obama's gonna stay right where he is. I think that's why even establishment Republicans don't bother with this issue. When the press is behind someone, he's untouchable. The Constitution matters nothing. Even judges are intimidated. This country is ruled by the liberal mainstream press. And so, it's ultimately ruled by the Marxist professors who indoctrinated these mindless, soulless, political-hack journalists!
Exactly, they are so unattached to reality its comical. I keep waiting for anything that is predicted to happen. Orly taitz said obama would be out of office in 30 days. That was 3 months ago. J corsi said said in one interview obama would be investigated by fbi by end of june. Now he says end of july. Then he says i might take 2 years like nixon. Thats why i subscribe, the more doom and gloom you preach, the more it doesnt come true and you respond with even more dire predictions.
alidam2003 - dear madame! I guess you have never had to peel back a monkey puzzle trees LEAVES? They are almost impenetrable, yet if handled with firm resolve? The rotten inner core can be exposed (kinda like Obama's lies and tall tales) HUH!
I think many people are confused as to why some of us want this issue resolved legitamately. Do you all realize what the implications are if at some point down the road we discover that in fact Obama is ineligible to serve as The President of the United States? ALL laws, executive orders, appointments, ANYTHING with his signature on it becomes NULL and VOID. Now with respect to Obamacare I'm fine with that. However, it would also be a major crisis for the US. Think about what this means.
1family4me ..."obama crap care" will bankrupt the American economic system and destroy our medical research and doctors will not work under a government dictatorship ....other than that: YER GOOD WID IT?
@thickshadesSUB what was done to those layers? To me it looked like there was some sharpening done. Also, it looks like someone took a flat image and pulled layers out of it rather than taking a bunch of layers to make a single image. Take a look at the bottom layer. If it were faked than why is the security pattern broken where the text should be? Shouldn't be an image of a blank document instead?
"arrrogantlyignorant" stalks the Obama birth cert videos AND LIES! (he is furious that his main marxist is about to be exposed for the liar he always was)
You've been preaching the same doom and gloom nonsense from before I even signed up on YT. Not one thing you predicted has happened and it never will because you are not attached to reality.
@disciplesofthecross I think you overestimate her expertise. she said that when you scan a document you should only have 1 layer. OCR, antialiasing, and other filters can create extra layers. try it out for yourself. The books she contributes to are the ones that teach basic functionality to someone who knows nothing about a computer. This doesn't make her an expert on software or forged documents.
@bedspirit Overestimate her expertise? So teaching Adobe and Microsoft programs to government employees and Fortune 500 companies and being a technical editor for over 100 books, a dozen of those being Adobe programs doesn't make someone an expert? lol Surely you jest. BTW, she isn't the only one in her field who has proven the birth certificate to be a forgery. Do a little research.
@disciplesofthecross I've looked at the document, have you? It makes no sense as a forgery. Those layers are clearly made by running the doc through a filter. You can tell because parts of the security background of the document are blended into the text. See for yourself. Isolate the text layer and zoom in. If you were forging a document, why would you do that? You wouldn't. A filter would because it's selecting the pixels based on a value. I never jest and don't call me Shirley.
@disciplesofthecross One more thing. You're taking her word that she has this vast amount of technical experience. I did research her and all I could find were a few basic entry level books that she contributed to. She is not an expert. Listen to her speak! Read her critique! Does she sound like an expert? She is someone who knows how to use the software and she sells that knowledge to people who don't. That's it. She's not a programmer and has no clue what's behind the interface.
@disciplesofthecross I checked out the article and I'm not convinced. I can't address all of it, but I can tell you that the parts of the numbers that have a different shade and aren't as sharp were not processed by the filter because they are still attached to the bottom layer and not the text layer. Also, your expect thinks they used Photoshop. The metadata says they used Mac OS X 10.6.7 Quartz PDFContext. Check the properties, you'll see I'm right. Some expert.
@disciplesofthecross I know you won't change your mind, but at least accept that the layers don't mean crap and this woman is no expert. Also don't mistake me for an Obama supporter. I think he's a corporate sell out and I won't be voting for him (thanks Wikileaks!) The only reason I want to correct you on this is because I inspected this in detail when the document was released and it's consistent with documents I've processed. To forge a document and have the layers look like this is odd.
@bedspirit No offense, but I thnk I will believe someone like Zebest who teaches Adobe and Microsoft programs to government employees and Fortune 500 companies and who was a technical editor for over 100 books, a dozen of those being Adobe programs, rather than someone who posts comments on a Youtube page. lol Get real...
OBAMA IS ABOVE THE LAW- The POWERFUL DEMOCRATIC MACHINE is COVERING-UP for him- This should be on the FRONT-PAGE of every NEWSPAPER in the country BUT NOT ONE WORD will make the backpage of any newspaper or even TV-STATIONs- even FOX NEWS is HELPING COVER UP for OBAMA- Oreilly & BECK have taken the OBAMA side- The only freedom of information is here on the internet- This country was not built on a LIE- Obama is a FRAUD-
This needs to go viral until even the mainstream sellout media is forced to report on it. The birth certificate is a fraud people! This is not only newsworthy, this IS NEWS! Time for a rebellion.
YEEEEESSSSS!!!! This is the most exhilarating news I have seen for awhile!! Shoot.. EVER.
WND is going to be bigger than Fox and Jerome Corsi and Joseph Farrah will be historic figures written in history books for centuries. I'm fuckin stoked out of my gord bro. YEEE HAAAWW!!!!!
Get this out for what? It's intentional....now wonder why.
The Judicial System just sold We the People out, using the Commerce Clause, with the "health care bill"....The treasonous criminality existed before Barry S., and will continue after he's gone. Now what? That's what I want to know.
I've looked and looked for the archive on CSPAN they don't have it. Very odd... Please tell me who is in the audience and if the full Press conference is avail. I sent this clip to the FBI tip line. This is becoming unacceptable as the evidence mounts.
I have to say that HAARP may change the weather, make earthquakes, but it also has the ability to cause confusion and may be able to plant thoughts. Why would Americans want a person without experience to lead our country? People who have supported Obama can sometimes give you no good reason.
Obama said that you'd receive an epiphany, a light would shine down upon you.
The problem with hypnotism or NLP, is that it doesn't work on everyone. And if you are aware of it, you can fight it.
Show me where Ms. Zebest said the document was digitized using Adobe Illustrator? She didn't. LUCY, WE HAVE A COMPREHESION PROBLEM! : D
Secondly, automatic filtering and optimization is created by software engineers to give idiots who don't know what they're doing a shot at better documents. Someone who really knows what they're doing with the digitizing of archived material turns them off and gets one layer.
He'll try to blame it on his Personal Attorney who was suppose to have picked up TWO certified copies from the Department of Health. Remember the two letters he posted with. She'll either vanish or get paid off or both. Judith Corley, Obama's personal lawyer, hand-carried two certified copies of his birth certificate. Remember?
is anything ever going to actually be done about this outrage? or does it just go on and on until... until the man is re-elected and runs through it all again?
where is the public reation? do they give a rats ass? is this information availible in the us? is it real? or is this an ongoing gag posted only in you tube?
@Iamsheep4slaughter What's making me queasy is Americas apathy as we go over the falls. The more clear it gets there is treason the less banging of fists I hear. Bizarro
Has Mara examined the original or a certified copy of the original ?
If not then she can go on and on how the pfd file downloaded from the web is a forgery but it has no meaning as she is not examining the document in its original form.
yoicho37660 1 month ago
yes ..its allegedly at the hawaii DOH ...however ,the director of same has refused an inspection of the original by a team of typography experts and cr taitz DESPITE being presented with a subpoena ...the excuse offered by the DOH ? the original is considered "Private "and to see it would invade obama's personal "privacy " ...thats right folks ,the VERY SAME one that the WH released to the entire world last april in a PDF image ...cannot be viewed in its original paper form ..why is that ,hmmm ?
woodenmajor 3 months ago
WHARR BURF CERTIFACE WhAARRR
OOPSitsALLBERRIES 5 months ago
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So the rich & corrupt bankers installed another puppet in the White House? What is this sesame street?
PhantomAct 5 months ago 2
@Obamaluke
Hawaii Dept of Health
arrrogantlyignorant 6 months ago
...and here's the testimony.
mrx92mr2t 7 months ago
i wonder what fool would buy corsi 's book ? to believe corsi america is evil an a liar
an bin laden an coris feel the same way about the usa the person that would buy
corsi's book would buy bin laden 's book if he had one
toothpickdinner 7 months ago
Overview: for 2 + yrs, Gibbs (W.H. Press Secretary) said he had posted Obama's b.c. on the net which was just a computer created Certification not a Certificate which has a legal difference. Trump and WND book on the b.c. come out and immediately Obama has this photoshopped put out which has created movable layers, different phonts and numbers mixed, overlapping kerning script, and more. Several S.S. #'s especially from CT from a dead man, faked Selective S. Reg. Investgatigate & Impeach now!
iconaclastor 7 months ago
@iconaclastor
You cannot determine Obamas birth certificate to be a forgery by looking at a digital image of it.
The pdf is not a legal document. Only the ACTUAL PAPER document matters, which the State of Hawaii has already said is authentic.
The first document that Obama provided - "Certification of Live Birth" is a valid, legal, State certified birth certificate, so is the second one.
arrrogantlyignorant 7 months ago
@arrrogantlyignorant You are very wrong that a created birth certificate that is fraudulent is ok as long as the original is authentic. Even the first certification was only "filed" as it states on the bottom left and not "Accepted" as all others appear to be of that time. Also, the Hawaiian officials are not answering question about the public records and have issued contrary statements and the one chief clerk who worked there said there is no birth certificate!
iconaclastor 7 months ago
@iconaclastor
Tim Adams claimed that he "was told there is no long form for Obama". Adams never identified his source nor did anyone ever corroborate his story. Adams is nothing but hearsay.
What question have Hawaiian officials not answered? What contrary statements?
The first Certification is a totally valid, legal, State certified birth certificate.
The pdf is not a legal document. Only the ACTUAL PAPER copy matters.
Try to stay attached to reality.
arrrogantlyignorant 7 months ago
@arrrogantlyignorant There is no actual paper certificate in Hawaii.
“California attorney Orly Taitz today secured an order from United States District Court Magistrate Judge Richard L. Puglisi demanding representatives of the Hawaii Department of Health appear in federal court Sept. 14 to show why Taitz should be prevented from seeing whatever original 1961 documents the agency has on record regarding Barack Obama’s birth.
purldiver 6 months ago
@purldiver
You have this totally wrong. The "subpoena" that Taitz had 'served' was not a legal subpoena in the first place. She also did not serve it properly. The Court date in Sept is to determine whether a court order should be issued. It is not for the Hawaii Dept of Health to defend itself. It will be dismissed.
See also: Hawaii Revised Statute §338-18
arrrogantlyignorant 6 months ago
@arrrogantlyignorant cont...Taitz returned to federal court in Honolulu today after Hawaii DOH officials presented her with a letter refusing to comply with her subpoena on grounds that Hawaii privacy laws prevented officials from releasing Obama birth records to the public.
You getting it yet? Again there is no paper long form BC in Hawaii.
purldiver 6 months ago
@purldiver
The Hawaii Dept of Health made it clear to Orly Taitz back in July, after her first bogus subpoena, that she does not have a direct or tangible interest in the vital records she is seeking from them.
Read: HRS §338-18
Learn to educate yourself and then perhaps you'll "get it".
Of course there is a paper long form bc in Hawaii. We already knew that from Dr Fukino's statements in Oct 2008 and again in July 2009.
Try to keep up here.
arrrogantlyignorant 6 months ago
@arrrogantlyignorant ...why should anyone automatically take Dr. Fukino's word for it as positive proof you ignorant fuck, that's your problem to start with, idiots like you believe anything you're told, and then there's people that strive to get facts and rely on documented facts that are proven by reliable sources. Anyone who supports this President Obama after all his failure is a pathetic moron, the Debt Ceiling is absolute proof of a complete failed Adminstration.
guitarhaus 6 months ago
@guitarhaus
We already know from Dr. Fukino's statements that the paper original long form absolutely exists.
Don't forget that she is a republican appointed by a republican governor, who actively campaigned for McCain.
I never said anything about Obama's policies, but pretending that he is not eligible is just plain stupid.
arrrogantlyignorant 6 months ago
@guitarhaus the GOP CONGRESS under Bush raised the debt ceiling SEVEN TIMES. By your logic if Obama is a failure for doing it once then Bush is 7x times the failure of Obama... yes? Note: It took me 15 seconds to find this. With a little effort, you could research the claims you believe before you look completely asinine. You said "people that strive to get facts and rely on documented facts that are proven by reliable sources." That statement & you are epitome of cognitive dissonance... Peace
Nathanielc2 3 months ago
@Nathanielc2 Don't get your point. Obama has spent more than 5 trillion in 3 years surpassing the Bush Disaster................... Two idiots did a bad thing what difference does it make if it took bush 50 raises and Obama 3 raises. Obama is on track to crush Bush stupidity.
PatriotWatchUSA 1 month ago
This video and others prove the birth certificate on the White House website is fraud at the highest level of our government by Obama. Congress can impeach Obama but in violation of the Constituion is not doing so. I can only think that the leaders of Congress will not expose Obama's dirty laundry because they have their own dirty laundry which will be exposed by Obama. It's time to wash our government's dirty laundry and send them the bill at election time!
iconaclastor 7 months ago
Bottom line is an originall 1961 document, is NOT WHAT Obama showed to the American public after 2 years........ hes showed us a layered PDF fake......................... nIXONS WHITE WATER SCANDAL IS NOTHING COMPARED TO THIS...
jonescool1fly 7 months ago
volume sucks
supergenius18 7 months ago
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eliasmouawad 7 months ago
Okay, now that you have this evidence, take it to a Republican secretary of state or state attorney general and have them file a charge in a federal court. They have standing to do as representing the state whereas we don't. There is in Ohio, Wisconsin, and Tennessee. This is important and you need to do this if you actually believe this is true.
eotto2001 7 months ago
Why does Barry have a CONNECTICUT (042-68-4425) SSN?
Google "Susan Daniels Explains Fraud"
glenwood183 7 months ago
She joins a growing list of Computer/Document Experts saying... FORGERY!
ObamaFake.bravehost. com
glenwood183 7 months ago
Directly from the document: PDF producer: Mac OS X 10.6.7 Quartz PDFContext
Not an Adobe product...oops! Mara should know better, some expert huh?
bwebmasta1 7 months ago
Wow... Big surprise... All the 'Bama lovers out there are sure to come up with myriad reasons why this document contains "magical" layers which would normally never exist in a scanned document, whether it be a PDF, Illustrator, Photoshop, or any other Adobe Proprietary format. This is just more bombshell proof which will surely be dismissed, derided and ridiculed. It's a shame that the liberals are too damn stupid to realize the depth of this deception against the American People... WTF???
kidkinedik 8 months ago
@kidkined I am young my friends arent liberal or con they are complete stooges that don't know about anything and don't care. For example in facebook I have 300 friends and about 5 to 10 are conservative, they don't care about this issue, they all like John McCain and they don't get into it. I have about 5 to 10 liberal friends and they don't talk about it or once in a while they just say I'm crazy. Some say this stuff is interesting but they never say anything about it to others. WTF is right.
KingDingaLing090 7 months ago
@kidkinedik It was not done with an Adobe based software...got to read so you won't miss the details.
bwebmasta1 7 months ago
@kidkinedik since when are layers magical? Layers are common. The only way you wouldn't have layers is if you were too lazy or ignorant to clean up the document or if you merged them when you were done. In fact, one could argue that if this document was a forgery, it likely would not contain layers. It certainly wouldn't have ghosting underneath like Obama's.
bedspirit 7 months ago
@bedspirit Again, you are someone using some intelligence.
bwebmasta1 7 months ago
@bwebmasta1 I don't know about that. The most intelligent thing for me to do would be to stop wasting my time arguing with a bunch of nuts. It doesn't matter how thoroughly you destroy their argument, they remain unconvinced. They don't understand what they're talking about so they can't understand you when you prove them wrong. Birtherism is like a religion.
bedspirit 7 months ago
@bedspirit You can check the findings of the last BC yourself, using PHOTOSHOP and other softwares, it is been thoroughly debunked, multiple experts such as this womn have come forward to debunk it. It appears the only lunatic here is the person who refuses to accept what has been shown them.
usmc7242 7 months ago
@usmc7242
The mistake that birthers make is that you cannot determine that the BC is a forgery by looking at a digital image of it. Only the actual paper copy matters, which the State of Hawaii has already said is authentic.
The pdf is not a legal document. It is not the Presidents birth certificate.
The ACTUAL PAPER DOCUMENT is.
arrrogantlyignorant 7 months ago
@usmc7242 You just condemened yourself, for the very image that OBAMA claimed was true and accurate is the one that is PROVEN to be an electronic fraud, MEANING the original is NOT like the electronic copy at all, is it?? YOU just proved it is a fraud yourself!
usmc7242 7 months ago
@usmc7242 Goddamn it! I'm tired of saying this over and over and over. You can't debunk this. I make PDF's all the time! They always have layers when I'm done. I know exactly what they look like. When I saw BO's birth certificate, I instantly recognized it. You can try it for yourself! This woman is a moron. She didn't even know what program was used despite the fact that it's in the metadata! It's as if you hear the word "expert" and you believe every word they say! she is no expert.
bedspirit 7 months ago
@bedspirit Well, if YOU believe that an original document can be copied into a PDF document with multiple layers, individual fonts, varying pixels within text groups, and numbers that do not match the font for those numbers, then...tell me...who is the idiot?? Why, I think it's YOU! Look at the number FOUR in the document's serial number, how did a CURVED LINE appear in the vertical line for the FOUR?
usmc7242 7 months ago
@usmc7242 you presume that the document on the internet was posted fresh off the scanner. Obviously, it was optimized for the web. Open up Photoshop or Gimp or Inkscape or whatever your favorite image manipulation program is (they used Quartz). Now run one of the fancier filters for sharpening or dust removal or whatever. Notice what happens... OMG where did all those layers come from? Holy crap! The original document must be a forgery because now I have a bunch layers!
bedspirit 7 months ago
@usmc7242 Don't you think that all these bizarre inconsistencies that you point out is evidence that it is not a forgery? If you were forging a document, why would you insert random curved lines, why change the font on the fly? why would some numbers be left blurry on the bottom layer and others sharp on the top layer? It would be more work to forge a document and have it look like this than it would to make it look pristine. Why don't you spend more time on all the real crap Obama has done?
bedspirit 7 months ago
@bedspirit I'm more concerned about the truth of 9/11.Our Constitution is a dead document.
junktex 7 months ago
@junktex Right On!
bedspirit 7 months ago
@bedspirit I dont know if i believe it is a fake document but you would make it look like it was old. Not just make a perfect "pristine" document.
brixcity17 7 months ago
@brixcity17 I don't know if the original document is a forgery either. I highly doubt it, but I'm not an expert in old birth certificates. All I'm saying is that the layers are the result of filters and not the result of a botched forgery. In my previous comment I should have used the word "genuine" in place of "pristine". If these inconsistencies that people are obsessing over were consciously place there by a forger, then what was his purpose? Why not save some work and leave them out?
bedspirit 7 months ago
@kidkinedik Don't get me wrong. I think Obama is a corrupt crony capitalist who's destroying the country, just like you (although you'd probably call him a socialist). This issue irritates me because it diverts attention from all the real sh!t that Obama is doing and makes the opposition look like a bunch of conspiracy minded rubes.
bedspirit 7 months ago
Government = lies and deception
16Echo101stID 8 months ago
Link has been sent to drudge report and to my congressman.
Everyone else should do the same.
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PatriotWatchUSA 8 months ago
IF YOU FOUND A PIECE OF PAPER A DOCUMENT FROM 1961 IT WOULD NOT LOOK LIKE THE LAYERED LIESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS, YOU HAVE SEEN... IT WOULD OLD AND EXPOSED TO THE WHETHER................
jonescool1fly 8 months ago
BOTTOM LINE AN OFFICIAL `1961 ORiginal document is not LAYERED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jonescool1fly 8 months ago
If obama gets caught for this, I hope he....blank blank blankety blank blank blank....ooooooooo make me mad!
WhitePlumeMountain 8 months ago
Sheep will believe anything, ofcourse it fake. Whats worse is they waited 2 years to release this artwork we shall call it.............. Because it is not AN OFFICIAL DOCUMENT FROM 1961..
jonescool1fly 8 months ago
You loons
headed2sea 8 months ago
@headed2sea homo.
WhitePlumeMountain 8 months ago
Do u really believe the president of the united states of america doesnt have the resources to produce, not a fake birth certificate but a birth certificate?!?!
headed2sea 8 months ago
@headed2sea he has submitted two and both are frauds. So he is playing a game with the American people? Starting to think you are the loon
PatriotWatchUSA 8 months ago
I am not an expert of Adobe products. I've just taken some college classes and I use Adobe products frequently. Anyone; who knows even basics of Adobe products, specially Photoshop, knows that Obama's birth-certificate is fake.
However, nothing will happen to Obama even if an expert states about the birth-certificate is fake. Why? Because Obama has Adobe's CEO in his pockets. Google Obama Adobe CEO.
AssocaitedPress 8 months ago 2
@AssocaitedPress God will be the one to determine what will happen, not Obama.
disciplesofthecross 8 months ago
@AssocaitedPress Having that CEO in his back pocket would be totally useful if Adobe products were used in the creation of the document. Unfortunately, it wasn't made with Adobe products. Read some of the other comments. As many have pointed out, It was made with: Mac OS X 10.6.7 Quartz PDFContext. It's right there in the metadata. There's a gazillion videos that show how optimizing a document creates extra layers. I do it all the time. You should look beyond the basics of Photoshop.
bedspirit 8 months ago
@bedspirit The problem is, most people want to believe it is fake. So they ignore this fact, as with so many other things. It's easy to think or accept something negative with no proof, and hard to read, do research and actually attempt to be intelligent. Sometimes, I really wonder about the statement George Carlin made: What are we, effin stupid?" is regards to the common sense and logic of people.
bwebmasta1 7 months ago
@bedspirit I don't know whether to believe you or think that you are an 'INSIDE JOB'. Sorry, but that's just the way I feel. I DON'T FUCKING CARE WHAT PROGRAM WAS UTILIZED, IT'S A FUCKING FAKE....get it!
AssocaitedPress 7 months ago
@bedspirit YOU FUCKING OBAMA SUPPORTER, ISN'T PDF an adobe product. FUCKING ASS HOLE TRYING TO SWAY SHIT ON DIFFERENT DIMENSION. why are you associated with OBAMA, WHY is your email a OBAMA RELATED email. FUCKING TRYING tow sway toward OBAMA by creating some bullshit. SEE THE FUCKING UPPER right hand corner of the document. PHOTOSHOP 101 tells you that anytime you have two or three different types of PIXES it is manipulated. DO YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND. you fucking sellout DEMONCRAT.
AssocaitedPress 7 months ago
@AssocaitedPress Man, why do you want to make me repeat shit? I posted comments up and down on here that explain exactly why I don't think those layers imply forgery. The pixels you pointed out don't mean shit either. Yah, they were manipulated but it was for optimization and not to fake something. As far the original document goes, I don't know, I'm not an expert in historical documents. I know software. Why the hell do think I'm Obama related? What's the problem with my email?
bedspirit 7 months ago
@AssocaitedPress I've posted on here at least twice that I don't support Obama. He's a crony capitalist exactly like every president we've had since Carter. Notice that this week it was the Fed that fined Wells Fargo and not the DOJ? Do you wonder why? Because Obama is a Wallstreet loving fool, he's not going to bite the hand that feeds him. -Just because Obama is corrupt doesn't mean I can look at some this Birth Certificate nonsense and believe it. Who do you work for? WND?
bedspirit 7 months ago
Obama lovers won't like this video.
disciplesofthecross 8 months ago
Brave woman. She could end up dead. Or be Linda Tripp'd. And to what purpose? Obama's gonna stay right where he is. I think that's why even establishment Republicans don't bother with this issue. When the press is behind someone, he's untouchable. The Constitution matters nothing. Even judges are intimidated. This country is ruled by the liberal mainstream press. And so, it's ultimately ruled by the Marxist professors who indoctrinated these mindless, soulless, political-hack journalists!
MyFriendLeonard1 8 months ago
Okay i saw the video a couple months back. I always say Corsi is selling bibles to Christians.
headed2sea 8 months ago
Exactly, they are so unattached to reality its comical. I keep waiting for anything that is predicted to happen. Orly taitz said obama would be out of office in 30 days. That was 3 months ago. J corsi said said in one interview obama would be investigated by fbi by end of june. Now he says end of july. Then he says i might take 2 years like nixon. Thats why i subscribe, the more doom and gloom you preach, the more it doesnt come true and you respond with even more dire predictions.
headed2sea 8 months ago
@headed2sea
"Orly taitz said obama would be out of office in 30 days. That was 3 months ago"
Actually it was longer than that. That case was dismissed in Oct 2009.
Corsi doesn't have anything. He's simply trying to "stoke the fire" so he can sell more books to idiots that believe his nonsense and buy them.
arrrogantlyignorant 8 months ago
alidam2003 - dear madame! I guess you have never had to peel back a monkey puzzle trees LEAVES? They are almost impenetrable, yet if handled with firm resolve? The rotten inner core can be exposed (kinda like Obama's lies and tall tales) HUH!
memama2 8 months ago
I think many people are confused as to why some of us want this issue resolved legitamately. Do you all realize what the implications are if at some point down the road we discover that in fact Obama is ineligible to serve as The President of the United States? ALL laws, executive orders, appointments, ANYTHING with his signature on it becomes NULL and VOID. Now with respect to Obamacare I'm fine with that. However, it would also be a major crisis for the US. Think about what this means.
1family4me 8 months ago 2
1family4me ..."obama crap care" will bankrupt the American economic system and destroy our medical research and doctors will not work under a government dictatorship ....other than that: YER GOOD WID IT?
memama2 8 months ago
@memama2 No. I meant that I'm good with Obamacare becoming null and void.
1family4me 8 months ago
it's not just "the layers." it's about what's done to them.
thickshadesSUB 8 months ago
@thickshadesSUB what was done to those layers? To me it looked like there was some sharpening done. Also, it looks like someone took a flat image and pulled layers out of it rather than taking a bunch of layers to make a single image. Take a look at the bottom layer. If it were faked than why is the security pattern broken where the text should be? Shouldn't be an image of a blank document instead?
bedspirit 8 months ago
In her full analysis, Mara Zebest stated that she "believes the document was constructed in Adobe Photoshop".
The file properties of the pdf indicate that no Adobe software was used in the creation of the pdf.
Also... you cannot determine that the birth certificate is a forgery by looking at a digital image of it.
Hawaii has already attested to the authenticity of the actual paper document.
Article IV Section 1 applies.
arrrogantlyignorant 8 months ago
"arrrogantlyignorant" stalks the Obama birth cert videos AND LIES! (he is furious that his main marxist is about to be exposed for the liar he always was)
memama2 8 months ago 2
@memama2
You've been preaching the same doom and gloom nonsense from before I even signed up on YT. Not one thing you predicted has happened and it never will because you are not attached to reality.
arrrogantlyignorant 8 months ago
@arrrogantlyignorant So you are smarter than someone who wrote for Adobe software books? lol
disciplesofthecross 8 months ago
@disciplesofthecross
The pdf was not created using Adobe software.
The meta data properties for that pdf say it was made by Mac OS X Quartz PDFContext.
Sorry, but I EXPECT an "expert" to know that.
Any amateur can see that for themselves.
arrrogantlyignorant 8 months ago
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@arrrogantlyignorant Again, So you are smarter than someone who wrote for Adobe software books? lol
disciplesofthecross 8 months ago
@disciplesofthecross I think you overestimate her expertise. she said that when you scan a document you should only have 1 layer. OCR, antialiasing, and other filters can create extra layers. try it out for yourself. The books she contributes to are the ones that teach basic functionality to someone who knows nothing about a computer. This doesn't make her an expert on software or forged documents.
bedspirit 8 months ago
@bedspirit Overestimate her expertise? So teaching Adobe and Microsoft programs to government employees and Fortune 500 companies and being a technical editor for over 100 books, a dozen of those being Adobe programs doesn't make someone an expert? lol Surely you jest. BTW, she isn't the only one in her field who has proven the birth certificate to be a forgery. Do a little research.
disciplesofthecross 8 months ago
@disciplesofthecross I've looked at the document, have you? It makes no sense as a forgery. Those layers are clearly made by running the doc through a filter. You can tell because parts of the security background of the document are blended into the text. See for yourself. Isolate the text layer and zoom in. If you were forging a document, why would you do that? You wouldn't. A filter would because it's selecting the pixels based on a value. I never jest and don't call me Shirley.
bedspirit 8 months ago
@disciplesofthecross One more thing. You're taking her word that she has this vast amount of technical experience. I did research her and all I could find were a few basic entry level books that she contributed to. She is not an expert. Listen to her speak! Read her critique! Does she sound like an expert? She is someone who knows how to use the software and she sells that knowledge to people who don't. That's it. She's not a programmer and has no clue what's behind the interface.
bedspirit 8 months ago
@bedspirit A few basic entry level books? lol keep researching. Go to wnd.com and click on the article:
"From A to Z: What's wrong with Obama's birth certificate?"
disciplesofthecross 8 months ago
@disciplesofthecross I checked out the article and I'm not convinced. I can't address all of it, but I can tell you that the parts of the numbers that have a different shade and aren't as sharp were not processed by the filter because they are still attached to the bottom layer and not the text layer. Also, your expect thinks they used Photoshop. The metadata says they used Mac OS X 10.6.7 Quartz PDFContext. Check the properties, you'll see I'm right. Some expert.
bedspirit 8 months ago
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bedspirit 8 months ago
@disciplesofthecross I know you won't change your mind, but at least accept that the layers don't mean crap and this woman is no expert. Also don't mistake me for an Obama supporter. I think he's a corporate sell out and I won't be voting for him (thanks Wikileaks!) The only reason I want to correct you on this is because I inspected this in detail when the document was released and it's consistent with documents I've processed. To forge a document and have the layers look like this is odd.
bedspirit 8 months ago
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@bedspirit Go to wnd.com and click on the article:
"From A to Z: What's wrong with Obama's birth certificate?"
disciplesofthecross 8 months ago
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@bedspirit No offense, but I thnk I will believe someone like Zebest who teaches Adobe and Microsoft programs to government employees and Fortune 500 companies and who was a technical editor for over 100 books, a dozen of those being Adobe programs, rather than someone who posts comments on a Youtube page. lol Get real...
disciplesofthecross 8 months ago
Lol people are still butthurt over this? GET OVER IT
hameed 8 months ago
the rotten inner core is being peeled back, and exposed = one leaf at a time ~
memama2 8 months ago
OBAMA IS ABOVE THE LAW- The POWERFUL DEMOCRATIC MACHINE is COVERING-UP for him- This should be on the FRONT-PAGE of every NEWSPAPER in the country BUT NOT ONE WORD will make the backpage of any newspaper or even TV-STATIONs- even FOX NEWS is HELPING COVER UP for OBAMA- Oreilly & BECK have taken the OBAMA side- The only freedom of information is here on the internet- This country was not built on a LIE- Obama is a FRAUD-
RonaldBlair 8 months ago 7
This needs to go viral until even the mainstream sellout media is forced to report on it. The birth certificate is a fraud people! This is not only newsworthy, this IS NEWS! Time for a rebellion.
TheSharpenedPen 8 months ago 7
I like your piece you provided but you can watch the entire presentation over at waynewymore posterous com.
Keep up the good work!
wwymore 8 months ago
Are we going to get her whole rundown?
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kmg501 8 months ago
YEEEEESSSSS!!!! This is the most exhilarating news I have seen for awhile!! Shoot.. EVER.
WND is going to be bigger than Fox and Jerome Corsi and Joseph Farrah will be historic figures written in history books for centuries. I'm fuckin stoked out of my gord bro. YEEE HAAAWW!!!!!
KingDingaLing090 8 months ago
Get this out for what? It's intentional....now wonder why.
The Judicial System just sold We the People out, using the Commerce Clause, with the "health care bill"....The treasonous criminality existed before Barry S., and will continue after he's gone. Now what? That's what I want to know.
IronRangeSurvival 8 months ago
Mr. Obama needs to fire his forger.
DanielJohn2300 8 months ago
I've looked and looked for the archive on CSPAN they don't have it. Very odd... Please tell me who is in the audience and if the full Press conference is avail. I sent this clip to the FBI tip line. This is becoming unacceptable as the evidence mounts.
rachelabombdotcom 8 months ago
it's an ongoing gag,alright! a fine one-just gotta see the humor in it...i mean,folks,you can't make this stuff up...!
tinfoilhatter 8 months ago
I have to say that HAARP may change the weather, make earthquakes, but it also has the ability to cause confusion and may be able to plant thoughts. Why would Americans want a person without experience to lead our country? People who have supported Obama can sometimes give you no good reason.
Obama said that you'd receive an epiphany, a light would shine down upon you.
The problem with hypnotism or NLP, is that it doesn't work on everyone. And if you are aware of it, you can fight it.
courag1 8 months ago
PUT THIS USRPER AND LIAR IN PRISON ALONG WITH SIZE 14 FLIPPER SHOE
aburke673 8 months ago
Show me where Ms. Zebest said the document was digitized using Adobe Illustrator? She didn't. LUCY, WE HAVE A COMPREHESION PROBLEM! : D
Secondly, automatic filtering and optimization is created by software engineers to give idiots who don't know what they're doing a shot at better documents. Someone who really knows what they're doing with the digitizing of archived material turns them off and gets one layer.
TheRMSDave 7 months ago
He'll try to blame it on his Personal Attorney who was suppose to have picked up TWO certified copies from the Department of Health. Remember the two letters he posted with. She'll either vanish or get paid off or both. Judith Corley, Obama's personal lawyer, hand-carried two certified copies of his birth certificate. Remember?
Zalahblue 8 months ago
is anything ever going to actually be done about this outrage? or does it just go on and on until... until the man is re-elected and runs through it all again?
where is the public reation? do they give a rats ass? is this information availible in the us? is it real? or is this an ongoing gag posted only in you tube?
MrBuckwilliam 8 months ago 2
Was this on cspan? They carried the press conference with Larry the limo lover.
Take one day off and look what happens. I love You birther report!
rachelabombdotcom 8 months ago
larry and barry. sick. period.
Iamsheep4slaughter 8 months ago
@Iamsheep4slaughter What's making me queasy is Americas apathy as we go over the falls. The more clear it gets there is treason the less banging of fists I hear. Bizarro
rachelabombdotcom 8 months ago
Let's get this out. Great job
mutexnet 8 months ago 15
yes it is to be passed around
iconaclastor 7 months ago
This is classic! Good job!
ProphetChaser 8 months ago 13