Pat Tillman Executed?!

[JZJYRWO]

You could have done better, they burned his diary and his uniform and the only reason why I could imagine they burned those items is because they pissed on them. The only terrorists are the ones in Washington and Jerusalem.

[DataSerpent]

10 yards pat tillman was shot???? the whole 10 yards??? is it possible that they used 10 yards to shoot pat tillman as a sick twist joke about him in his football career?

[thepostnihilist]

I just finished reading "Noam Chomsky: Controlled Asset of the New World Order" by Daniel L. Abrahamson (the second link), and it was absolutely mind bending. It is a brilliant piece, and it just makes me understand Michel Foucault's expressions throughout the Chomsky vs. Foucault debate. I'm sure he was thinking: "Is this guy serious? He is either a complete idiot or a cunning agent for some nefarious plot. Either way, I will have fun with this pointless debate."

[rolynstone48]

Noam Chomsky seems to be a double agent - coming off as a great thinker while at the same time , revealing that his positions are really more in alignment as a CIA opperative than any representitive of truth !

I think he is more likely a Zionist plant !

[karrieannbean]

i love the all seeing eye thing you have going on.

[JZJYRWO]

Not only does America commit global genocide but the government and news media are under political control, there is a part of the government that oversees all programming to safeguard against potential whistle blowers, and the entire media workforce wisely turns its head and pretends not to notice what is going on. Speaking out would only result in personal damage to oneself. Losing their careers, being forever regarded as a loon. There are plenty of examples of people that have tried it.

[mcfrandy]

Chomsky is as phony as the proverbial $3 bill. He's a CIA operative whose main function is to get leftists to think in terms of abstract class conflict and stay clear of damning empirical evidence implicating the CIA and the power elites.

Another CIA operative is Julian Assange of the faked, "limited hangout" Wikileaks operation. Just as Chomsky may well have outed Tillman to his CIA bosses, the phony Assange appears to have outed a real leaker of U.S. war crimes, Bradley Manning.

[hellsunicorn]

@mcfrandy Julian Assange is a bit of a strange cat, I don't know enough about him but he definitely could be a CIA spook. And one thing is definitely for sure, Wikileaks has not done as much as it could do to curb government secrecy. It is difficult to be sure, but I can't fully trust either of these two men.

[crazycheetha]

@hellsunicorn HE WAS GOING TO EXPOSE DA OPIUM TRADE... national BANKERS.... I KNOW..... HE WAS COMING BACK IN THREE DAYS. star with power to expose THEM

[alienmode]

@mcfrandy lol you fucked up faggot

[mcfrandy]

@alienmode Anger issues....

[hellsunicorn]

@mcfrandy Nah, alienmode is just exhibiting the typical behavior of a brainwashed Neo-Lib who is too busy worshipping Chomsky and Assange to actually think critically on things.

[mcfrandy]

@hellsunicorn Sorry, that was my 14-year-old son who put in this last comment about "Anger issues." I've told him not to let my comments be confused with his.

[endthedrugwarvision]

@mcfrandy Good analysis. Now what do we do about it?

[420headband]

this is hard to swallow... but he is famous and if anyones views/ideas could become common knowledge to his superiors... it would be him... rumors and gossip tends to fallow the most famous person that is in-common... every soldier knew him and prob talked about him

[SIMKINETICS]

Noam Chomsky has far more integrity than what this bozo suggests. He obviously hasn't bothered to examine what Chomsky's about. Ignorance incarnate.

[hellsunicorn]

@SIMKINETICS In some respects, Noam Chomsky does have a level of integrity. Granted, the same thing could be said about Hitler and other terrible men who were had their horrid ideas implemented because of their seemingly impeccible character.

[SIMKINETICS]

@hellsunicorn Except for Chamberlain, most leaders could see that Hitler could not be trusted. It's very doubtful that Chomsky is in that category. Granted, some academics have been co-opted by nefarious influences like the CIA, but Chomsky is rather overtly anti-war & too smart to be duped. Not likely.

[hellsunicorn]

@SIMKINETICS Not really, FDR and Hoover had a fair amount of respect for how be brought the German regions out of the economic slump they'd been placed under by Keynesian socialists, as did Bernard Shaw and other pro-eugenics types who were hungry for a human race free of genetic liabilities. Chomsky's ideas of bringing all of mankind under the tyranny of unions alone is suspect, but his antiwar tendencies are very inconsistent when you parse his words, particularly on the Kosovo War.

[hellsunicorn]

@SIMKINETICS I will grant you this, Chomsky's status as an elite profesor in a university loaded with CIA spooks and Military Industrial Complex grants does not necessitate him being CIA per say, but it reveals a compromising tendency in his alleged principles that give me reason to be skeptical of his intentions. His antiwar rhetoric is not a problem for me, its all of his ideological stuff that makes me suspicious.

[SIMKINETICS]

@hellsunicorn It's far more likely that Tillman's views were shared within his platoon members, and made their way up through the ranks. The military is rife with backward bigots & religious fanatics who would gladly betray an Atheist with extreme prejudice. See 'Pat Tillman's family insulted for being atheists by Army' for example. As a V.N. era vet, this seems much more plausible to me.

[hellsunicorn]

@SIMKINETICS I've had this conversation with a couple of other people who have commented on this video, I've read the reports regarding Tillman's superiors mocking his beliefs. Frankly, I don't buy it, and even if I did, that alone would not account for others who have held similar views and not been targeted in this way. Granted, I'm not an atheist and actually abstain from jury duty/military service for religious reasons, so my sympathy on this issue is limited.

[SIMKINETICS]

@hellsunicorn Well, it's hit or miss. Isn't it? In Tillman's case, it was 'hit', three times in the forehead. Whether you buy it or not, that LTC Kauzlarich's comment was on the record in congressional testimony; an implicit indictment of an attitude that permeates our society & military. Military/governmental ethics are questioned at least four times in this scandal; assassination, cover-up, attempting to portray Tillman as a hero for propaganda purposes, villification. Disgusting.

[hellsunicorn]

@SIMKINETICS My point wasn't that I didn't buy that the people in the military who are allegedly Christian (I consider just about everyone working for the America government who claim to be Christians as either being confused or bold heretics) who openly mocked Tillman's beliefs, my point was that this alone would not merit a motive for killing him. His plans of antiwar activism alone are sufficient, regardless of Chomsky's position in the matter.

[SIMKINETICS]

@hellsunicorn For Christians who hold high the 5th (or 6th) commandment, your comment rings true. Tillman's anti-war stance was likely the main motive, but may have been facilitated by other prejudices, as it is often done by corrupt powers. Speaking truth to power must follow the chain all the way up to... 'We, the people'. Americans should forcefully insist that our gov't is ours by demanding the truth without acquiescence or naiveté from us.

[hellsunicorn]

@SIMKINETICS You can't have liberty by any real stretch of the imagination when your government is openly hiding things from the public. I would prefer returning full sovereignty to states and localities and return to an "articles of confederation" approach to government, which is inherently anti-imperialistic.

[SIMKINETICS]

@hellsunicornA smaller, less expensive, less expansive, less imperialistic federal gov't would be better. The fundamental problem emanates from international banking interests that have global wealth & power that are not countered by any significant unity. The Fed & its Anglo-American underpinnings on/with Wall Street pose a global & local threat to individual liberties here & worldwide. Think big enough. Think about effective ethics.

[hellsunicorn]

@SIMKINETICS If there is one thing that I've learned through my own experience, and is reflected in my own studies of religious history, it is that no human being can resist the temptation of power. A federal government, in and of itself, presents a huge temptation. International banking interests don't just spring up out of the ground, but are a reflection of a more basic problem. Only one party is worthy of such power, and I don't think I need to drop the name.

[SIMKINETICS]

@hellsunicorn Both of the current political parties have assets & deficits. If you combine only the assets of both, you still have a shortfall. Something completely new must arise, taking lessons & re-thinking anew. Jefferson & Adams proposed a start; we must propose a renaissance once again. Remember Thomas Paine. The individual is supreme.

[hellsunicorn]

@SIMKINETICS As to the way that the government has treated Tillman and his family, there is no disagreement from me on that issue. I have no doubt in my mind that Tillman was murdered by someone acting on orders from the brass, or perhaps even someone in Bush's administration. However, I do not trust Noam Chomsky at all, and I wouldn't be surprised if he was implicated in this somehow, though whether he is or not remains to be seen.

[SIMKINETICS]

@hellsunicorn I'll bet that Cheney led this. Noam Chomsky, as I recall, is a Secular Humanist; if he's involved in any negative way, that would widen the scandal significantly. Whatever the case, this story may gain national prominence, and hopefully, will fuel a widespread debate about ethics. We need it. Several officials & ex-officials should go to prison; that's already clear.

[hellsunicorn]

@SIMKINETICS I'll be the first to admit that my primary issue with Chomsky deals with his really unreasonable positions regarding both the 9/11 attacks (Building 7) and Al Qaeda (former CIA employees, he regularly avoids casting the CIA in a negative light and always goes after presidents, who are usually out of power soon after). He could simply be holding his tongue under the duress of losing his job or having something bad happen to him, but I'm left to speculate as information is scarce.

[SIMKINETICS]

@hellsunicorn I'd say self-preservation is a reasoned & probabable motive.  That one is easy to understand. Chomsky can be bold, but doesn't raise too high in the radar. His demeanor is not of the assassinated.

[zete53]

Many churchgoers are atheist, but go to church because it is good social entertainment. Going at Christmas makes them feel good. Church is as American as apple pie. Going to church also makes people feel like they are part of the community fabric and OK to hang with. When someone like Tillman proclaims being atheist he is viewed as peculiar by the hypocrites around him. Poor Pat Tillman.

[hellsunicorn]

@zete53 One of the reasons why I've removed myself from mainstream Christianity. The larger the herd, the larger number of interlopers who come seeking amusement rather than God. Not to knock you specifically, but more my own reflection on the nature of things today. My church has a very small congregation, everybody knows each other, and everybody professes something other than having religion merely for some way to get out of the house on Sundays.

[zete53]

@hellsunicorn Long live Nietzsche.

[hellsunicorn]

@zete53 Too bad he's dead.

[matthewtaylorbrown]

Do not dismiss the concept that he was killed because he was an atheist. They really hated this guy.

[hellsunicorn]

@matthewtaylorbrown I do remember reading about how his one superior officer mocked his views on this subject after his subject. Nevertheless, I would still guess that the primary reason had to do with his plans of anti-war activism.

[matthewtaylorbrown]

@hellsunicorn I'm retired military and received much attention about being an atheist. His being an atheist might have made it easier. :(

[thelordmemnoch]

@hellsunicorn That is just sick to speak ill of Pat Tillman, ESPECIALLY coming from a superior officer. It's bad enough that he died serving his country, but he died from friendly fire! Common sense tells you that you don't fuel an already raging fire. That officer was a dildo and I hope he gets slapped by one.

[ROB6752]

wannabe Lars Ulrich

[hellsunicorn]

@ROB6752 wannabe troll

[mmsayre]

I know someone that was at the friendly fire accident. This was an accident. There r hundreds of friendly fire accidents on record, none received much press because they didn't involve celebrity athletes.

Tillman was part of a unit training Afghani soldiers, they used AK47s and other items which might visually indicate an enemy soldier. The person I know recognized them as friendlies, but it is understandable that someone might not, esp someone thats scared. I 2 am anti war btw, no cheerleader.

[lizardfirefighter110]

Nome Chomski is a political intellect and has studied the way the world works. Interestingly enough he believes the official story about 9/11. He down plays the notion that 9/11 could be an inside story. His main argument for this position is that it would be impossible to keep such a conspiracy a secret. But, if anyone knows it would be Nome that just such a secret was kept during WWII. See the Book "The Day of Deceit" by Richard Stiener. Building 7 would be the norm for Nome.

[IronJackalTw]

lizardfirefighter110,

He down plays the notion that 9/11 could be an inside story because he would have ended up like Pat Tillman as well.... duh!? {roll my eyes}

[hellsunicorn]

@IronJackalTw Ergo we have a cowardly old man unwilling to risk his life for what he believes. But Chomsky having a sudden accident would have been a bit harder to cover up, so I'm inclined to think that he chose freely to cover this up.

[lizardfirefighter110]

@IronJackalTw You may be right. He is high profile enough. He has a huge following, people would listen to him like they would Tillman. However, is there another way that Tillman brought attention to his political views about Iraq? Could there be a Chomsky connection to his assassination, or is that too far fetched.? I just don't know.

[IronJackalTw]

lizardfirefighter110,

WTF R U talking about? Nome Chomski is LOW-PROFILE while telling enough TRUTH without sticking his neck too far out! Pat Tillman got killed because he was Poster Boy for promoting on their False Flag WAR! For High Profile him to turn Anti-WAR is unacceptable to them! Low-Profile People like me would get pay a visit by those Judeo-Christian Whitey THUGS that are following orders of GAY Jim McGreevey to run my car off road!! >=(

[lizardfirefighter110]

@IronJackalTw Chomski lectures, does interviews and writes books. Many politically minded people follow Chomski. For some he even does the thinking for them. If Chomski says then it is so. This may not be high profile enough for you, but I think for the mover and shakers it is enough.

[hellsunicorn]

@IronJackalTw There is nothing low-profile about Chomsky. He is one of the most widely quoted people in the outer fringes of NeoLiberal politics, particularly among the antiwar movement. He is so high profile that I was flooded with his zombie followers for putting up a video series criticizing him on the 9/11 issue. And for the record, Chomsky is a latent communist and is equally as bad philosophically to the NeoCons that you think are running things.

[mmsayre]

@IronJackalTw I knew who Chomsky was LONG before I had ever heard of Tillman

[Smallcherokeegirl08]

I agree with you 100% and I feel sad that this all happened! I know now, that we cannot trust anyone anymore! No one is safe from all the gov. Bullcrap! We talk against anything we disagree with, and then they find us dead! I am sickened about this, and other things like this. TRUST NO ONE!!! God bless you, because you are trying to get the truth out!

[SuspiciousPatriot]

Thoughtful analysis. I agree with your sentiments about Chomsky. I wouldn't trust hims as far as I could throw him, either. I agree - he could be the rat.

Shaking your faith in the media - by listening to you, I would have thought you'd already have that accomplished.

Red herring - I think the anti-war stuff is just that; I think the real concern was that Pat was coming home a 911 Truther. They couldn't allow that to happen. Anti-war they could live with; Truther, they could not.

[OPSECHUNTER]

goes to show you if you run ur mouth, you'll git got!

[hellsunicorn]

Yeah, yet another reason why I'm never signing up for military service.

[scooter1331]

Geez, you're not very bright. But then what conspiracy nut is?

You start your rant by acknowledging that many people don't know who pat tillman is, yet by the end, we're supposed to believe that the us government was so concerned about the effect of his "so called" anti-war views that they killed him off.

Yawn.

[scooter1331]

Next we're supposed to believe that Pat Tillman adopted a determined anti-Iraq war stance. To the point where he contacted Noam Chomsky?

First, get your time line straight jack-ass. The facts about the WMD cover up came out after this guy was killed in the incident - so why would he have had such views.

More importantly, where is the evidence that Pat Tillman held such views to begin with.

[scooter1331]

Yes, and Noam Chomsky - someone who disagrees with most Bush policies, then finds someone in his administration - passes off secretly held views of a high-profile GI in affghan. - they believe him - they begin and carry out the plot to kill this guy.

GEEEEEZ get a life you idiot. Why not spend your time doing something constructive with that thimble of a brain you have.

[Alexandersonn7]

Scooter, I have discovered the same info on my own. Having C-Span running over the 3rd year of his death,a congressional hearing was held. I watched it 2 1/2 times. I became blatantly clear the 2nd full time I watched it. I became extremely angry and felt what a scripted act I had just seen. Certain clue words were used by the Dems. Fratracide,"The Presidential Protection Act". Pat Tillman was seen many times writing down events,dates in a small notebook he kept in his waist pack. It was burnt.

[photofu]

heavy...you may be onto something....

[MrTeaB]

4)the constitution was written when guns amounted to powder muskets/rifles.not semi-automatic hollow tip handguns. let people carry the exact same guns as when the constitution was written- one shot will protect you in your home, it will not cause a school massacre.5)If another catastrophe occurs like hurricane katrina is it better that the people living in the area have guns to 'protect' themselves?are guns more likely to be used for protection or crime?

[hellsunicorn]

4) The constitution was written to ensure that the citizens had similar weapons to their government. 5) Criminals have guns regardless of what you do and looting occurs when citizens are disarmed. The government officials who seized those guns during hurricane Katrina were stormtroopers, and any citizen that would have used deadly force to protect their 2nd Amendment rights would have been justified and thus a hero.

[MrTeaB]

Are you serious? disarming citizens should be a priority 1)constitutional right to bear arms was written in a vastly different time. Today they can lock you up indefinately without charge and you think your liberties will be protected by having a gun in your house.2)dumbing down of the nation means less responsibility.3)the gap between rich and poor is continually increasing.crime will be more prevalent the wider the gap gets-welcome to gated communities.

[hellsunicorn]

1) This is the exact policy that Hitler advocated, solidifying my view that Libertarian Socialism and National Socialism are not-so-distant cousins. 2) Hence the irresponsible behavior of Chomsky's minions at protests. 3) And who do you think gains more converts to his cult as this happens.

[MrTeaB]

Now, I can pick a few of these arguements apart but is it really worth it? Coleman is wildely off the mark. Communism and AIDS? why? AIDS would have come about if the commies had won the war. We could then reverse that sentance to--the losing side didnt give us aids, the losing side didnt give us whatever. coleman is a commie loving internet crackpot. watch out or you will turn the same way.

[hellsunicorn]

As stated before, I'm not fully familiar with Coleman's work, I'm mostly a follower of Alex Jones. I do think that AIDS was likely a population control device by the NWO, but the Communists are only a part of the World Government cabal. I'm going to have to keep a score of how many times you've used the word crack pot, I think you're setting a new record.

[MrTeaB]

Why are you saying that Chomsky is the reason I think Coleman is a crackpot? That is nonsensical just like some of Colemans own arguments like....Communism did not give the world AIDS! Communism did not give the Americans disastrous levels of unemployment. Communism did not mount unrelenting attacks on the Constitution of the United States. Communism did not force America to adopt "foreign aid," that cursed tax on the American people which is involuntary servitude.

[hellsunicorn]

Communism is not the cause, it is a symptom of the cause. I suggest visiting and scrutinizing the link I provided on here on Chomsky, though I will likely get my video blog series up tonight. Chomsky is a hired hand preaching a dead end message, he is not a master, but an intricate part of a culture of academics and corporate types that are all in collusion.

[MrTeaB]

'simply because he doesnt have a doctorate' well, he is claiming to be a doctor. his website reads...''mastery of more than one hundred subjects'' and all his paper are about illuminati/conspiracy theoories. this is not academia. You cannot get a doctorate in the NWO.Coleman is a scam, donate to him and he will give you more wild whacky ideas. Chomsky talks about truths and facts. They are usually old incidents, but it takes a long time for the documents to get declassified.

[hellsunicorn]

There has been learning and acquired knowledge well before the advent of the university. There is such a thing as a self-made professor. Nonetheless, I am only mildly familiar with Coleman's work, I follow Alex Jones more closely. The only person I've donated to thus far is Ron Paul.

[MrTeaB]

My mind has not been propgandised by Chomsky. Having an open mind means that you must filter out information you consider to be junk. having an open mind does not mean blindly believing.

You did not answer my question about whether you have seen Manufacturing Consent? That seems to be the point made in your video.

[hellsunicorn]

I have, see my point about 95% truth, 5% poison. I have been reading some of his books as well. His viewpoints and his avoidance of certain topics are the point of contention, particularly how he and others in his clique have successfully hijacked legitimate WTO Protests and turned them into mob scenes.

[MrTeaB]

Are you listening to internet crack pots??? John Coleman maybe? Coleman does not have a doctorate according to wiki. Also scanning through his video on google it seems like 95% poison 5% truth.

Id rather trust Chomsky thanks. I look forward to your series though. The mind should always be kept open. There are however limits, and John Coleman is way past mine.

[hellsunicorn]

1,000 doctorates are meaningless in the face of truth, and anyone who supports the mass disarmament of the citizens and the bolstering of the World Elite is a liberation shill as sure as the sun shines.

Continue to live in your dream world, and when the government comes to put the tracking chips in your arm, I'm sure Chomsky will tell you it's okay. Peace out.

[hellsunicorn]

Besides, a mind can not be open if it relies on a template and a filter, which is what Chomsky's influence amounts to. Think about where you got the idea that John Coleman is a crack pot simply because he doesn't have a doctorate, that is a clear indication of a manipulated mind.

[hellsunicorn]

His book is proto-typical New World Order propaganda, give the reader 95% truth and then inject the fatal 5% of poison. I'm putting up a video series covering this tonight after my work is finished.

[MrTeaB]

The fact that the media story was diluted and toned down should not be surprising. Manufacturing Consent by Noam Chomsky is a documentary specifically about this very behavior by the ruling classes. Did you not trust Chomsky when you watched this documentary? Or have you not watched it and come to the conclusion all by yourself, albeit 15 years after Chomsky? I would hazard a guess to say that Noam Chomsky's phone is tapped and that is how the meeting was discovered. plausible?

[hellsunicorn]

No, Chomsky does not have his phone tapped, because he is part of the CIA and his business is leading the radical left into dead-end solutions. He is a shill, a government plant posing as a liberation ideologue. He and David Horowitz share the same goal, the destruction of America and the advent of world government.

[theredpill99]

oh...I just watched the last 60 secs of your video...I guess you and I think alike...hell yeah...later bro...

[theredpill99]

I happen to believe that Noam Chomsky is an "agent" for the new world order...I wonder if he ratted on Tillman and made sure that guy would be murdered...I think Tillman probably talked to the wrong people...he trusted too much and thought too many people were on his side...the reality is that a lot of rich people are communists and back the new world order...

[RonPaulFanInKC]

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[germanicus24]

Hehe my friend, you're going so down when the new internet censoring American laws come up. Which might sound bad, but I'd say that being chased is always the best possible sign one can get that one is doing things right. Keep it up!

[hellsunicorn]

Compared to the video series that I am about to release, this particular video will likely be the least of my worries. What is the sentence for outing a covert CIA agent? (Noam Chomsky) A few years at least.

[CalJennings]

Excellent! I trust Chomsky about as far as you do. I fear that your conclusions are very close to what happened.

Love, Hope, Peace, & Christ Be With You,

Cal-el