Who do you all think you are, stop all the gossip , back biting & judging ,shut up none of you have any place to say anything look in the mirror & you will see a sinner looking at you
For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, says the Lord. Isaiah 55:8 (Amplified Bible) why servants of God fall? coz their relationship with God ended or their old character didn't let it go. Jesus 30yrs process before His ministry began.
just to make this clear, there is NO scriptual precidence to set someone down for a season. These are man made laws designed to hurt Godly men. If there is repentence - true repentence, then that person should be given the space needed to continue the work of God. God calls men, not the other way around. Did David lose his kingdom? No. Was David still King? Yes. God declared through nathan that david would stay on the throne. This setting someone down is unbiblical.
Oh really...1 Tim 3:1-7 " ..the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle,...He must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devil's trap"
actually that scripture talks about a bishop. Again, there is NO scriptural evidence for setting someone down. Even when Solomon turned from God to idolatry God did not remove him from being King. However, if he or his father were alive today, self serving christians would demand they step down. However, God had other ideas in mind. They still reaped what they sowed, but God NEVER set anyone down if they showed true repentence.
What is a bishop today? The fact is the Bible teaches us that Character is important in a leader, and if there is overt sin one should be restored (Gal 6:1). Why did the Apostle paul excommunicate believer? Thats even a step further than stepping down from a ministry role. Maybe you have need to learn in this area..Blessings
@chadsummers01 David was not a prophet of God.He was a king. False prophets would have been killed in their day. Also, who was it that built God's temple. It wasn't David. David paid the price for his sins. He also had a few sons who were murdered too. Sin carries a price. Please check out the article on eastern spiritism from unleavened bread ministries.
Cain was caught praying over heterosexual men to be cured of homophobia WHILE he was sodomizing them. This is Baal worship. He is a false prophet. This is AntiChrist.
A good tree cannot produce bad fruit. A bad tree cannot produce good fruit. Lakeland is the start of the Satanic outpouring and Satanic "revival" of AntiChrist.
Paul Cain said: "I've been a celibate for all my life" (0:22-24).
Rick Joyner replies: "I kept that hope until Paul spoke in Lakeland about "the allegations" about him and his assertions of having lived a celibate life. That was pretty overwhelming evidence that he has still not repented of these serious transgressions...As long as there is blame-shifting, an attempt to cover them up, or dilute the seriousness of them, the restoration process has at best fallen far short of its purpose" - MS.
Thanks Johnboruff: I think it just got to the point that Paul was going to embarrass all of them because they couldn't keep him in hiding any longer, so to cover themselves they outed him.
Everyone involved needs to be delivered from the impartation of the demons. You cannot just come out of it, that is a start. But there has to be a renoucing then get someone who is not involved to cast the demons out of you, otherwise those demons will stay in your soul, to decieve you once again. The same procedure as someone coming from any occult/ Freemason etc involvment.
The audio levels should be redone on this video, the music is too high compared to the talking original track so that it is not properly understandable. Just an idea. God bless.
Celibate?? The statement from his own people, said DRUNK HOMOSEXUAL. The is Peter Wagner's MAIN prophet. You know, the guy that says Jesus picked him to be over the 500 Apostles of the End Time Church.....This crap should prove SATAN is REAL.
Wagner: .. The idea of tithing to the apostle is one of the ideas that has emerged as a way to sustain this whole thing. Not every apostolic network does it this way...
I think this is just something we need to look at. We need to say, "Well, let's see how this works, and if it doesn't work then let's do something better." apostles....
Ok. HEY HEY HEY. EXTRA EXTRA. UNEXPECTED COMMENT FROM GUAPOBEAR. first, alcoholism is not a sin.. OOOPS, yes, it is a disease.. and God will heal it. and expecting God to heal it instantly in a prayer line is, believe it or not, part of the disease. OOPS!! YES. Even if healed immediately, it must be followed up with true submissive RECOVERY STEPS. As for his HOMOSEXUAL play? if he was preaching against it and then it was found out, he has a problem. Ah, what's to be expected from the merry men.
This is the guy that preaches that he is so holy that Jesus isn't coming back personally on earth, he is just going to turn these lying creep into DIVINE BEINGS so they can rule the earth from Jerusalem. This was Peter Wagner's main man until the demon do-do hit the fan, so to speak. Interesting point: While his partners in crime dis-associated themselves from him, they continued to preach that his life of a lie did not invalidate his teachings. These guys should be in jail.
Who do you all think you are, stop all the gossip , back biting & judging ,shut up none of you have any place to say anything look in the mirror & you will see a sinner looking at you
46lfries 1 year ago
So why does anyone listen to this false prophet when it is so obvious he is a liar?
BaldingEagle53 1 year ago
If you 'set yourself up to be perfect' you better had be.
anthfantastic 2 years ago
For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, says the Lord. Isaiah 55:8 (Amplified Bible) why servants of God fall? coz their relationship with God ended or their old character didn't let it go. Jesus 30yrs process before His ministry began.
manusiabaru 2 years ago
just to make this clear, there is NO scriptual precidence to set someone down for a season. These are man made laws designed to hurt Godly men. If there is repentence - true repentence, then that person should be given the space needed to continue the work of God. God calls men, not the other way around. Did David lose his kingdom? No. Was David still King? Yes. God declared through nathan that david would stay on the throne. This setting someone down is unbiblical.
chadsummers01 3 years ago
Oh really...1 Tim 3:1-7 " ..the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle,...He must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devil's trap"
justvapor 3 years ago
actually that scripture talks about a bishop. Again, there is NO scriptural evidence for setting someone down. Even when Solomon turned from God to idolatry God did not remove him from being King. However, if he or his father were alive today, self serving christians would demand they step down. However, God had other ideas in mind. They still reaped what they sowed, but God NEVER set anyone down if they showed true repentence.
chadsummers01 3 years ago
What is a bishop today? The fact is the Bible teaches us that Character is important in a leader, and if there is overt sin one should be restored (Gal 6:1). Why did the Apostle paul excommunicate believer? Thats even a step further than stepping down from a ministry role. Maybe you have need to learn in this area..Blessings
justvapor 3 years ago
@chadsummers01 David was not a prophet of God.He was a king. False prophets would have been killed in their day. Also, who was it that built God's temple. It wasn't David. David paid the price for his sins. He also had a few sons who were murdered too. Sin carries a price. Please check out the article on eastern spiritism from unleavened bread ministries.
Conservmom 2 years ago
Cain was caught praying over heterosexual men to be cured of homophobia WHILE he was sodomizing them. This is Baal worship. He is a false prophet. This is AntiChrist.
A good tree cannot produce bad fruit. A bad tree cannot produce good fruit. Lakeland is the start of the Satanic outpouring and Satanic "revival" of AntiChrist.
Cooperpal 3 years ago
Paul Cain said: "I've been a celibate for all my life" (0:22-24).
Rick Joyner replies: "I kept that hope until Paul spoke in Lakeland about "the allegations" about him and his assertions of having lived a celibate life. That was pretty overwhelming evidence that he has still not repented of these serious transgressions...As long as there is blame-shifting, an attempt to cover them up, or dilute the seriousness of them, the restoration process has at best fallen far short of its purpose" - MS.
johnboruff 3 years ago
Thanks Johnboruff: I think it just got to the point that Paul was going to embarrass all of them because they couldn't keep him in hiding any longer, so to cover themselves they outed him.
ColJimQ 3 years ago
Everyone involved needs to be delivered from the impartation of the demons. You cannot just come out of it, that is a start. But there has to be a renoucing then get someone who is not involved to cast the demons out of you, otherwise those demons will stay in your soul, to decieve you once again. The same procedure as someone coming from any occult/ Freemason etc involvment.
dwmmi 3 years ago
Thanks, Dwmmi, You are absolutely right.
ColJimQ 3 years ago
The audio levels should be redone on this video, the music is too high compared to the talking original track so that it is not properly understandable. Just an idea. God bless.
maxtube22 3 years ago
Sorry, It was just repeating the same, "I've been a celibate all my life.."
Blessings,
Jim
ColJimQ 3 years ago
the greats always fall into major sin
marshall1959now 3 years ago
I don't think one has ever been out of sin.
ColJimQ 3 years ago
Rick Joyner, Jack Deer and Mike Bickle..
There's an unholy trinity telling an unholy prophet to be holy - ironical.
Laughing at the music though :)
Ahouseisnotahome 3 years ago
I JUST got your video response. Sorry for taking so long. By the way...you spelled Todd's first name wrong.
CultFree 3 years ago
Thanks, just corrected the name.
ColJimQ 3 years ago
Celibate?? The statement from his own people, said DRUNK HOMOSEXUAL. The is Peter Wagner's MAIN prophet. You know, the guy that says Jesus picked him to be over the 500 Apostles of the End Time Church.....This crap should prove SATAN is REAL.
ForIsrael 3 years ago
FOLLOW THE MONEY
Wagner: .. The idea of tithing to the apostle is one of the ideas that has emerged as a way to sustain this whole thing. Not every apostolic network does it this way...
I think this is just something we need to look at. We need to say, "Well, let's see how this works, and if it doesn't work then let's do something better." apostles....
Ministries Today Magazine -- Strange Communications -- July-August 2000
Publishers of CHARISMA MAGAZINE
JimQualls 3 years ago
So having sex with men doesn't count???
nunyadambiz 3 years ago
Ok. HEY HEY HEY. EXTRA EXTRA. UNEXPECTED COMMENT FROM GUAPOBEAR. first, alcoholism is not a sin.. OOOPS, yes, it is a disease.. and God will heal it. and expecting God to heal it instantly in a prayer line is, believe it or not, part of the disease. OOPS!! YES. Even if healed immediately, it must be followed up with true submissive RECOVERY STEPS. As for his HOMOSEXUAL play? if he was preaching against it and then it was found out, he has a problem. Ah, what's to be expected from the merry men.
guapobear 3 years ago
I guess sex with men didn't invalidate his celibacy?
ColJimQ 3 years ago
This is the guy that preaches that he is so holy that Jesus isn't coming back personally on earth, he is just going to turn these lying creep into DIVINE BEINGS so they can rule the earth from Jerusalem. This was Peter Wagner's main man until the demon do-do hit the fan, so to speak. Interesting point: While his partners in crime dis-associated themselves from him, they continued to preach that his life of a lie did not invalidate his teachings. These guys should be in jail.
ColJimQ 3 years ago
God Bless!
themistoklisp 3 years ago
A great day for the Lord. :)
o7jimmy 3 years ago
ColJim that's good. I wish I had done that.
JIm
JimQualls 3 years ago 2