I kind of stand by Craig's reasoning. I've never believed that sexuality was THAT black and white. There are always shades of gray. I've heard of lesbians who've dated a man and one man only, but still defined themselves as lesbians. Like Craig said, you can't help who you fall in love with.
In JP and Craig's case, I didn't think it was a matter of sexual orientation. It's a matter of love and romance and companionship.
I think JP was being really unfair. They had JUST become a couple, of course he's going to feel uneasy about being that open. Besides, JP had Spike. He knows what to expect with being in an open homosexual relationship. Craig doesn't, and he's probably more scared than anything else. He at least deserved a second chance.
Just a kind of random thing, but I just realized that the last things you see of Craig are his white sneakers and those are the first things you see when he comes back. I think that's really cool :)
I am castching up with all this John Paul - Keiron- Craig story. So what happened after this episode. Did the actor who played JP leave the series and go onto Emmerdale. Is ther eany gay story line on Hollyoaks anymore?
After this episode JP stayed in Hollyoaks for another year. He had an affair with a priest, but it was all a bit dull really. Then Craig came back...and stuff happened and they (JP and Craig) left the show together.
Since he was leaving the show they had to come up an exit. It's hard to believe Craig would not have grabbed JP and held on. don't leave! JP had to take care of himself. He deserved better.
This is my favorite video of John Paul. Through the whole relationship, Craig made John Paul suffer so much it was unbearable. This is the only time when Craig gets the taste of what John Paul suffered while he was in love with him(Craig).
i can understand john paul after all they've been through, but you could see craigs desperation when jp walked away. you could see how much he really loves him and if i was jp i couldn't just walk away like that.
you tell him craig, you have changed your whole for him. broke my heart when frankie said 'i don't mind gay men as long as it's not my son' and all that crap from jake, sarah begging you to take her back (which would have pleased frankie and jake muchly) but still here you are with HIM. what the hell does he mean he deserves better? i have nothing but mad love for craig and jp but maaan this is the nearest i came to not liking jp.
I understand your feelings. I was angry as all heck too, but, you have to understand all of the sacrifices JP made during their relationship as well and Craig did have months to sort this out and chances are, if they hadn't of gotten caught things would've probably carried on the same. JP was right. Craig still didn't know who he was. He was embarassed and that's why he couldn't touch JP in public. JP was saying he deserved better than being kept away. It worked though, Craig did find himself.
Granted you may have a point but this was as much (or even more so!) about JP freaking out over Craig telling Jake he still fancied girls even though he was with JP as it was about Craig not being ready.
I think JP could have been more understanding. I know he deserves to be love and all that, but Craig has just came out of the closet, he needed a little bit of time to adjust.
Even though I hate it, John Paul was exactly right! He put up with too much and loved too much to keep it all hidden.
When I first started dating my BF I picked up at AP and we kissed and hugged and he was so glad I was able to do that, to put the world aside and love him. That was 12 years ago.
omg...I hate JP! How can he do that to Craig? He came out and turned his life upside down for JP, while JP promised to be with Craig forever. He just came out! You don't become completely confident and a rainbow flag waving homosexual in a week! He should have gone to Dublin with him.
I love this show! I just found it! It's not on tv in Canada
wow! why is everyone doing the thumbs down on this comment? I sort of agree. I don't hate jp for this, but i think it was a mistake leaving like he did.
Poor Craig..he had behaved in a shitty way before, but in the last week or so he made so much progress, turning his life upside down for JP... and still while being totally scared and confused about his feelings. JP had promised to be there for him, instead he gave up on him right away, when he needed him the most. JP should have believed in them a little more, instead he made everything they went through (and all the pain they caused) for nothing! :(
i know jp was hurting, but i think he was asking too much too soon. i mean, craig had been out for like a week and he wanted a kiss in public already? i've never even seen two men kissing in public before, lol. but going off to live with someone in a new place is a big deal, so i understand why he had to leave...but it kills me.
I still don't get it. Does anyone? I think its a poor excuse. Guy's decision to leave was has affected the timing for JP/Craig rleationship. I blame him. But really I still think that now that James annouced he was leaveing next year (i read this somewhere) maybe Guy will return for a few episodes. Craig is 100% ready and comfortable to be with JP openly. And they leave together
I don´t agree with the ending. I know that JP deserves better, but on the other part, he doesn´t give it a chance. He should´ve at least waited a couple of weeks, Craig had just came out, its not like you can stop being selfconscious overnight. Maybe in Dublin he would have been more relaxed, who knows... But its a soap, so, its all or nothing... Such a shame...
omg i can watch this one over over again but it must be hard for jp to let him go like that and craig he must be hard but i guess to do thing like kiss jp in in the airport and do thing and be a couple.
i knew that JP didnt go with Craig, but there was a incy bit of hope! it's so sad. i just wanted to yell at the screen and say 'CARIG GO AFTER HIM' but in the end, he's too embarrased to show his affections towards JP in public, despite the fact he loves him. i feel so sorry for JP now. but i think he did the right thing and like eh said he will always love him. craig has to come back, doesnt he??! xx thanks for this x
one good thing: jp did the absolute right thing: if there really is a future for them it has to be craig who makes the decision. he's been like a leaf blowing in the wind for months. jp did it just as much for craig as for himself. the truth will out.
oh no!! I wanted a happy ending but i already knew that JP didn't go with him. In a way you could tell Craig isn't ready ... but if he does come back (PLEASE DO)i think he will be ready to show the world his love for JP. That would be the moment i have been waiting for .. Craig kissing JP in public.
I kind of stand by Craig's reasoning. I've never believed that sexuality was THAT black and white. There are always shades of gray. I've heard of lesbians who've dated a man and one man only, but still defined themselves as lesbians. Like Craig said, you can't help who you fall in love with.
In JP and Craig's case, I didn't think it was a matter of sexual orientation. It's a matter of love and romance and companionship.
coffeetea720 6 months ago
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coffeetea720 6 months ago
I think JP was being really unfair. They had JUST become a couple, of course he's going to feel uneasy about being that open. Besides, JP had Spike. He knows what to expect with being in an open homosexual relationship. Craig doesn't, and he's probably more scared than anything else. He at least deserved a second chance.
coffeetea720 6 months ago
My God what a breathtaking performance by both of the actors. I'm speechless
DelightfulDelirium 1 year ago
Just a kind of random thing, but I just realized that the last things you see of Craig are his white sneakers and those are the first things you see when he comes back. I think that's really cool :)
megsy8924 1 year ago
@megsy8924 OMG! You're so right! There's no way that wasn't on purpose!
limofatig 1 year ago
I am castching up with all this John Paul - Keiron- Craig story. So what happened after this episode. Did the actor who played JP leave the series and go onto Emmerdale. Is ther eany gay story line on Hollyoaks anymore?
copman109a 2 years ago
After this episode JP stayed in Hollyoaks for another year. He had an affair with a priest, but it was all a bit dull really. Then Craig came back...and stuff happened and they (JP and Craig) left the show together.
VariahR 2 years ago
Since he was leaving the show they had to come up an exit. It's hard to believe Craig would not have grabbed JP and held on. don't leave! JP had to take care of himself. He deserved better.
woody5551 2 years ago
This is my favorite video of John Paul. Through the whole relationship, Craig made John Paul suffer so much it was unbearable. This is the only time when Craig gets the taste of what John Paul suffered while he was in love with him(Craig).
oielvert 2 years ago 6
damn from 6:20 that was why JP was nominated for best actor 2008,it looks so real,
beelekani 2 years ago 5
i can understand john paul after all they've been through, but you could see craigs desperation when jp walked away. you could see how much he really loves him and if i was jp i couldn't just walk away like that.
brute08 2 years ago 4
you tell him craig, you have changed your whole for him. broke my heart when frankie said 'i don't mind gay men as long as it's not my son' and all that crap from jake, sarah begging you to take her back (which would have pleased frankie and jake muchly) but still here you are with HIM. what the hell does he mean he deserves better? i have nothing but mad love for craig and jp but maaan this is the nearest i came to not liking jp.
thank you for posting these.
zakeo26 3 years ago 4
I understand your feelings. I was angry as all heck too, but, you have to understand all of the sacrifices JP made during their relationship as well and Craig did have months to sort this out and chances are, if they hadn't of gotten caught things would've probably carried on the same. JP was right. Craig still didn't know who he was. He was embarassed and that's why he couldn't touch JP in public. JP was saying he deserved better than being kept away. It worked though, Craig did find himself.
stl29tide 2 years ago 8
Granted you may have a point but this was as much (or even more so!) about JP freaking out over Craig telling Jake he still fancied girls even though he was with JP as it was about Craig not being ready.
zakeo26 2 years ago 3
I hate this scene...T_T
TalesByTheOcean 3 years ago 3
I think JP could have been more understanding. I know he deserves to be love and all that, but Craig has just came out of the closet, he needed a little bit of time to adjust.
This is so sad to watch...
I´m gonna watch it again.
GuadaGN 3 years ago 6
Even though I hate it, John Paul was exactly right! He put up with too much and loved too much to keep it all hidden.
When I first started dating my BF I picked up at AP and we kissed and hugged and he was so glad I was able to do that, to put the world aside and love him. That was 12 years ago.
David
LifeTrek 3 years ago
This still hurts to watch!! *sobs* :(
antisocialflowerpot1 3 years ago 3
And he's coming back today baby!!!!
Woot I'm going out of my mind for Craig!!!!
skinhugging 3 years ago 5
this made me cry and im a guy
jamesholden2k7 3 years ago 6
OMG i cant even watch this. it makes me feel really sad!
xalliiex123 3 years ago 5
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come on guys it's just a tv show.for god's sake,this break-up is just pave a way for jp and kieron relationship. this will never happen in real life.
depresli 3 years ago
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OMG! JP is such a drama queen. (Pun not intended). He could try to a bit more understanding. Totally over overreacting.
GRBJ4 3 years ago
omg...I hate JP! How can he do that to Craig? He came out and turned his life upside down for JP, while JP promised to be with Craig forever. He just came out! You don't become completely confident and a rainbow flag waving homosexual in a week! He should have gone to Dublin with him.
I love this show! I just found it! It's not on tv in Canada
riderdave 3 years ago
wow! why is everyone doing the thumbs down on this comment? I sort of agree. I don't hate jp for this, but i think it was a mistake leaving like he did.
willitsrox94 3 years ago 4
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ok its only a tv show
lolliipop334 3 years ago
omg that was so sad why couldn't JP just go with him.
mrswinchester14 3 years ago 2
OMG thats soo sad! i am really trying my hardest not to cry!
xx
TrueGothicBlue 4 years ago
Poor Craig..he had behaved in a shitty way before, but in the last week or so he made so much progress, turning his life upside down for JP... and still while being totally scared and confused about his feelings. JP had promised to be there for him, instead he gave up on him right away, when he needed him the most. JP should have believed in them a little more, instead he made everything they went through (and all the pain they caused) for nothing! :(
river85 4 years ago 7
Me too!!!! I wish i could have went in the screen and comforted him!!!
phils550 4 years ago 2
OMG-That was just too sad! Why JP could wait for a bit longer, come on! Craig just came out!!
Bluedogtown 4 years ago 12
i know jp was hurting, but i think he was asking too much too soon. i mean, craig had been out for like a week and he wanted a kiss in public already? i've never even seen two men kissing in public before, lol. but going off to live with someone in a new place is a big deal, so i understand why he had to leave...but it kills me.
pattersonjk 4 years ago 14
i completely agree
harbingerv10 4 years ago
i cant breath
i cant even imagine
im cryin so hard
bribriJayjay 4 years ago 6
Crying too...
calisuni 4 years ago 3
Etwas aufregend.
Ich kann schon Craig's Hemmungen nach vollziehen, aber ihn zu verlassen in seiner Situation war nicht so weise von JP, meiner Meinung nach.
0stsee 4 years ago
when craig's like "don't leave me. john paul."
ahh.
i started crying.
his voice.
it's just so sincere.
depressing.
this cannot be the end.
D:
hgtomato 4 years ago 6
I still don't get it. Does anyone? I think its a poor excuse. Guy's decision to leave was has affected the timing for JP/Craig rleationship. I blame him. But really I still think that now that James annouced he was leaveing next year (i read this somewhere) maybe Guy will return for a few episodes. Craig is 100% ready and comfortable to be with JP openly. And they leave together
phoebegrove 4 years ago 3
no i will not believe that is the end. there must be more. i mean they cannot drag it out for so long then just end it like that
amystar119 4 years ago 3
omg i'm crying here. lol. Craig better come back soon i miss him lots.
irishcloverchick101 4 years ago 4
This end is too sad!!!
:'(
floflo1989 4 years ago
Oh, boy, I´ve just watch it again and it broke my heart... Again...
GuadaGN 4 years ago 3
no.. some pass my the tissues
i hope craig comes back for john paul
oneday i like craigs jacket
radiorachel 4 years ago 5
Cannot. Believe. It.
is that actually it? that cant be it ...surely.
im going to be VERY upset if they dont have a i-made-a-mistake-and-cant-live-without-you-reunion pronto
GUTTED.
leynamarsden 4 years ago 6
Brilliant
And the Dusty song was so apt-thank you for posting..lol
seesaw65 4 years ago
*crys* its so said craig how could not kiss im he HOT!! i hope craig comes back one day
radiorachel 4 years ago 3
oh thank u for all this as well
phoebegrove 4 years ago
i hope even without Craig u will continue to post John Paul + new guy clips. That is i hope there will be others
phoebegrove 4 years ago
By the way, I really like the song at the end, does anyone knows the singer?
GuadaGN 4 years ago
The song is "I close my eyes and count to ten" by Dusty Springfield
SuttonAddicts 4 years ago
Thanx :)
GuadaGN 4 years ago
I don´t agree with the ending. I know that JP deserves better, but on the other part, he doesn´t give it a chance. He should´ve at least waited a couple of weeks, Craig had just came out, its not like you can stop being selfconscious overnight. Maybe in Dublin he would have been more relaxed, who knows... But its a soap, so, its all or nothing... Such a shame...
GuadaGN 4 years ago 3
omg i can watch this one over over again but it must be hard for jp to let him go like that and craig he must be hard but i guess to do thing like kiss jp in in the airport and do thing and be a couple.
i am upset that they are not together
rchum 4 years ago 2
i knew that JP didnt go with Craig, but there was a incy bit of hope! it's so sad. i just wanted to yell at the screen and say 'CARIG GO AFTER HIM' but in the end, he's too embarrased to show his affections towards JP in public, despite the fact he loves him. i feel so sorry for JP now. but i think he did the right thing and like eh said he will always love him. craig has to come back, doesnt he??! xx thanks for this x
RandomCrazyLady2007 4 years ago 2
one good thing: jp did the absolute right thing: if there really is a future for them it has to be craig who makes the decision. he's been like a leaf blowing in the wind for months. jp did it just as much for craig as for himself. the truth will out.
newgeorge 4 years ago
oh no!! I wanted a happy ending but i already knew that JP didn't go with him. In a way you could tell Craig isn't ready ... but if he does come back (PLEASE DO)i think he will be ready to show the world his love for JP. That would be the moment i have been waiting for .. Craig kissing JP in public.
Thank You for posting all of these.
XXXXXX
medwaygirl 4 years ago
*sob* I really wanted a happy ending for this...all I can hope for is a craig return/jp trip to dublin in the future...
medicboy 4 years ago