It's not as open ended as you want to think, Bret Easton Ellis wrote the American Psycho 2000 emails that state Bateman did kill Paul and got away with it, some unknown incident occurred that forced him to leave Pierce and Pierce and start his own bank, Kimball became Police Commisoner and is good friends with Bateman, he married Jean and divorced her after having a son, he still kills but not as much because of his son. It turns out Jean is dating Batemans shrink who Bateman has been emailing.
@Crafter07 I think this goes into the whole "mistakened identity" theme in the movie. They would change the names of people they thought they knew, and they were called different names by others as well. I think.
This film was brilliant because it's actually about the psychotic nature of society. People are so self absorbed and unaware that they woudn't know a serial killer if he screamed their confession right in their face. Patrick Bateman may have been insane, but unlike the fake idiots around him, he is aware of it. Everyone wears a mask, Patrick just takes his off once in a while.
My point of view: Bateman explains he has reached kind of absolute cynicism. But he explains its not a release. its a prison. For me, The real Bateman's personnality is sensitive, full of hope and love (Music analyzes). but he cannot express this side in his outside life. ans he finally gives up in the end : " but inside doesnt matter "
So hes full of resentment because he undestands definitly he will never be him self in this world. So he wont get " deeper knowledges of himself".
This movie is a satyre or a parody, not really a serious thing ironically. The business card scene explains it all, minor things like that grab peoples attention while say....the disappearance of a person goes unnoticed.
I'm 23, yesterday I saw this movie for the first time, and realized my father has all this qualities inside of his personality or what is left of it... that's why I don't love him, nor my mother, nor anybody... and I'm only an ambicious fuck luckily
After just watching this for the first time, I was confused.
Bateman's lawyer told him that he had dinner with Paul recently, so I thought none of it actually happened, like it was all in his mind, but after reading comments I get it now.
Patrick Bateman is Bret Easton Ellis and this movie and monologue is honesty expressed by Bret Easton Ellis. His Confession meant nothing, and he inflicted pain in other peoples lives very succesfully. The creative process is so much more complex than I think most people believe it is. It is just not "sit down and write what you think a serial killer would write". The whole thing is a expression of Brets feelings and the inspiration form that is endless.
@konteee Oh, shut up, you worthless cunt. No one gives a cunt what you think, you fucking cunt. I marked your comment as spam. Even such a designation is too high. Get fucked, you putrid stain.
The book is better because it calls into question whether or not the events as depicted by Bateman really occured or were the delusions of a pyschotic mind.
I don't feel as if they just don't care so they don't mind him doing these things, I think the other people in the movie just don't care what he is doing. Their eyes are so focused on the superficial aspects in life they cannot interpret the core values and meanings of life. When you uncover the mask and disguise of society, you will see that people all share this same problem.
@NoWorriesNoProblem I agree. It also has to do with the fact that everyone is so self-absorbed that they cannot see whats happening to Bateman... nor anyone else. They are only focused on themselves and how to succeed more!
Wait, so who did Bateman kill if it wasn't Paul Allen? Was Allen being as egotistical as everyone else, and just agreeing with Bateman's mistake? Or was his lawyer being the egocentric one?
the point of american psycho was it was a satire against consumerism.No ones paying attention to anything but there money.Thats why paul thought patrick was marcus. Why patrick was given an albai for pauls murder by marcus. And why his lawyer thought he was david.
The whole point of post-modern literature and films is that of the subjective and the existence of personal 'realities' that replace any absolute truth. Telling other people that your specific theory of what happened is the truth means that you don't understand the intended meaning.... and even this opinion may be misguided. That's the point.
"I am without a face among men. I am not seen. I speak and am not heard. I come and am not welcomed. There is no place by the fire me, nor food on the table for me, nor a bed made for me to lie in. Yet I still have my name...that name I lay on this hearth as a curse, and with it my shame. Keep that for me. Now nameless I will go to seek my death." - The Left Hand of Darkness
he did kill all those people, but since he's rich and everything, he got away with it. His lawyer probably covered it all up. Notice he says "My punishment continues to elude me" and "this confession has meant nothing"
He learns that believing in the superficial has nothing to do with meaning, he is psychotic, and will by his call for help in an environment that betters anonymity, be what he has always been... from an early start.
Nothing good comes from appearence, only distance.
Ellis has said different things, like in the American Psycho 2000 emails he stated Patrick did kill Paul Allen and still kills people. Then there's the whole weird shit in Lunar Park.
psycho is short form for psychopath and riponyou907 is right you don't have to be a killer to be a psychopath the definition of psychopath is:
Also called: sociopath: a person afflicted with a personality disorder characterized by a tendency to commit antisocial and sometimes violent acts and a failure to feel guilt for such acts
just because you are a psychopath doesn't mean you are a killer it just means you don't show remorse for the things you do.
Something i left the old woman said go out and dont find problems..... then he went out and siad no i won`t*,,,if you are a bit clever you can unnderstand it.
@Furthermore23 read the book. Ralhalamy's interpretation is the one i am far more inclined to believe. I wouldn't base my interpretation of American Psycho on the film. So yeah read the book before posting another long incoherent comment!
then when he for example went to the rent haouse he found an old woman and he said to him "go out not cause more pain" or something like that what does it mean?is another metaphor of the film.... then the lawyer said "you dont murder anyone" ant the policeman said i saw paul allen in london having lunch with somebody" i think that his psycopathy didn't appear finally because of the closed society he was it finally wasn`t, he just got some manierisms and he was suffering but he didnt killed any1
You guys didnt understand anything on the film right? the crimes were never done.... let's introduce the film.... Bateman was living on a yupee society of the 80`s, all people was so egocentric that they only cared about themselves, they even confuse their names....there are some scenes that you can see the metaphoric part of the film..... for example when bateman went to that bar and he screams the whore he was looking to a mirror so it really was his mind who was talking, not him....
@Fahstudios13579 The film's score was released as a non-commercially available promo soundtrack in 2003, by the composer, John Cale. Your best is venturing out onto the internet, as there is no way to buy a genuine copy legally.
All I have in common with the uncontrollable and the insane, the vicious and the evil, all the mayhem I have caused... and my utter indifference toward it, I have now surpassed. My pain is constant and sharp... and I do not hope for a better world for anyone. In fact, I want my pain to be inflicted on others. I want no one to escape. But even after admitting this, there is no catharsis. My punishment continues to elude me... and I gain
The great revelation at the end of the movie is that Bateman actually did kill all of those people. Some believe the ending is supposed to mean he hallucinated them. He didn't. Everyone is so egotistical in 1980's Wall Street that they don't pay attention, or care, what's happening. No one notices what Bateman has been doing, nor do they even have the time to even find out.
Bateman is and forever will be an American Psycho.
@koukoula123 What he's basically saying is he is constantly living in a mental hell, so to speak. He has a feeling of emptiness because he can't relate to anyone except, as he said, the vicious and the evil, uncontrollable and insane. He is not emotionally intelligent and he can't connect and that's probably why he has a constant pain, the pain of having something missing, and not knowing what's missing. In his case, he doesn't truly understand love, most psychopaths don't..........
@koukoula123 .......because if he did, he wouldn't have a constant hunger to tear everyone else down. When you love yourself or someone else truly, you feel fulfilled.
It is implied that Bateman was severely depersonalized to such an extent that he cannot differ reality from fantasy, thus in a sense it is left to our imagination as to whether he committed those acts of violence or not. Bateman, on the other hand, along with his yuppie crowd, are shallow hedonists, which would contribute to their materialistic cravings and ignorant, self absorbed personalities. In the world Ellis creates, there are nothing more than social status and consumerism.
The murders did actually happen IMHO. The look on the woman renting that appartments face, like she knew what he'd done there, and there was paint and stuff all over. Everyone being so self-absorbed and confusing eachother for Marcus Hallbastram or Paul Allen or whoever helps him get away with it. Also I personally think its better that it all happened or it would have ruined it, like Shutter Island, I wanted there to be human experiments in the lighthouse.
i heard some good points on here. and now im quite confused. i think maybe its a mixture of what michaelstorms said and Ralhalamy.
i also think trying to make complete sense of this movie isn't always the best thing to do. i feel that the writer had a moral to put out, basically what Ralhalamy said, and things like the business cards all saying 'vice president' dont have to add up. its just part of the moral/joke.
actually if you think deeper, it is his father and powerful individuals who we do not see in the movie who go around covering up what he does. That is why the apartment was cleaned and emptied and the woman renting the place told him not to come back. She was warning him not to be foolish and indirectly telling him that everything has been taken care of so no asking questions. If you look at her when he asked what happened here she immediately realizes who she is talking to and cautioned him.
AP : we should be scare of wallstreet! their greed is a killer, their narsicism is scary. thats what this movie is about. did he or did he not kill all those people is ur interpretation, but one thing you gotta know is the ditective was only interviewing Bateman, not the rest of his friends. that can mean it was all in his head. or they were so much into themselves they dodnt know who people really are
in angels dont kill "i want know one to escape is in the beginning, and " my pain is constant and sharp, and i do not hope for a better world for anyone, infact i want my pain to be inflicted on others" is at the end of bodom beach terror, both songs by children of bodom
Why does there have to be a definitive answer? Why can't it just be left alone and that maybe he did kill all those people, maybe he didn't? I think it's alot more interesting when it's left a mystery.
The ending is open to interpretation even the books author said in a interview: "Regarding the murders, I was always on the fence about whether they were fantasy or real. I don’t know and I prefer it that way."
He never hallucinated his crimes, his lawyer simply had lunch with another guy whom he thought was Allen. They are all so self absorved that they don t even know who their talking to, that s what is so hilarious.
@spasemonkey05 Doesnt ´t it??! The real estate agent did it. If the bodies were found in the apartment the market value for the apartment would drop. So the greedy bitch disposed of the bodies and once she saw him and realised that he was the one who had done those murders she told him to leave. Does that make sense to you?
@Ralhalamy That's your take on it, I agree its a hilarious film but in the book its left incredibly open. The ending is so vague that you can look at it from several perspectives.
@Ralhalamy Bateman didn't kill Paul Allen, I'm sure of it. Pay attention to the business card scene, someone gives him a business card with Paul's name on it, but it's not the guy who gets killed in Bateman's apartment.
@wretchedspawn118 but the man that got killed in his apartment responded to the name Paul , in the business card scene it was Bryce who happened to have Paul Allens card , the interesting thing though is that they are ALL vice president of the same company so how does that work? are they all characters he made up ? or what the hell ?? there is definitely an open mind and suggestive interpretation of this movie
@patrickbateman7 You have a point there, but the guy Bateman killed was also hammered out of his mind. He might have responded to just about anything.
@patrickbateman7 paul allen gave Bryce his card before Bateman showed the others his card, thats why Bryce had it. But that doesn't clear anything up, the ending is meant to be entirely ambiguous..thats the point, it cant be solved. the real is intwined with the imaginery, which is seen through the cat at the atm scene and the police car explosion scene so we don't know what to believe. plus the recurring idea of mistaken identity contributes to the ambiguity. no one is going to solve the plot.
@Ralhalamy Completely wrong, did you miss the scene where he goes to the apartment he thinks he stored the bodies in, only to find a real estate giving tours? Or how about the fact that he went screaming down his apartment hallway with a chainsaw and NO ONE thought anything was weird or called the cops? Or that he supposedly killed 20 people in a street rampage and hid in his office, only for no one to be looking for him or anyone mentioning the bloodiest massacre in NYC history?
@Ralhalamy while i certainly prefer this interpretaiton, i believe both the book and the movie (fantastic adaptation) do not lead the audience one way or the other. it is left perfectly open.
@Ralhalamy That's what I was thinking, but I couldn't be sure....His lawyer claimed that it was Paul Allen, but the detective had mentioned earlier than someone else had mistaken him already.......smh
@DarkTakoshi Half the film (and the original novel) is redundant if his "theory" is incorrect. Easton Ellis can be as obtuse as hell about the meaning of his work, if he likes. However, the fact of the matter is that the whole point of the film is that Bateman has done (almost) every act documented within it. It's just society's greed and utter complacency that have caused people not to care at all. It's too much hassle to punish him, and so therefore society doesn't. It's as simple as that.
@traphoot man im sick of people like you trying to explain the ending, it's left open man, you can think that go ahead doesnt mean your right though, its called a theory.
@riponyou907 actually what happened was the author of the book wanted to go with Patrick being insane, and none of this being real. but the director wanted to play off the greed and non-human-ness of 80's wall street brokers, saying that just as "paul" though patrick was someone else, patrick thought someone random was "paul" and he never actually talked to paul, and killed someone completely different. boom explained
@traphoot I respect your opinion, but I think that Christian Bale wasn't Patrick Bateman all along but he believed himself to be that person. All the murders & felonies he committed where all an illusion created by him in his head, for example, his assistant at the end of the film discovers a notebook of disturbing murders similar to the ones portrayed(the women with the chainsaw on the napkin). Also before the doorman was murdered called Pat Mr Smith in this video-Don't forget to sign on left
@traphoot I find it fascinating that you're choosing to ignore what the author did deliberately and just slap on your own meaning. It isn't as simple as you say, Bateman is a complex character, satirising the generation of the time. Ellis has also said that it is never made clear in the book whether he did all the things he said he did, or whether he made them up. Get your facts right and don't pin your own meaning on something like its fact.
@Ralhalamy thats one theory, the point of the novel and movie is to leave that idea open, ur wrong saying that he never hallucinated his crimes, the whole point of the movie is to make you think two different ways, he either is just totally insane and made it all up in his head, or the confusion of the wall street yuppie culture confused everyone. btw being a psycho doesnt mean ur a killer, its short for psychological which involves mindtricks, which further makes me belive he hallucinated
@riponyou907 i believe most of the time bateman was in his own fucked up little world, im sure hes killed but not as much as he thinks he did...i kind of feel bad for the guy, imagine you not being able to know? being stukc in your own fucked up world without ever controlling it
@Ralhalamy u are an idiot, i watched the movie again and theres no way he commited the crimes, how the fuck does a man walk throught NYC blow up two fuckin police cars shoot like 7 people, and not get caught? clearly he fuckin hallucinated u dumbass
@riponyou907 So glad you took the careful deliberation and time before pronouncing me an idiot!
To the matter in question: neither the book or the movie were supposed to be realistic, in real life people would ask questions whenever his victims disappears, of course somebody living in his high class upper Manhattan building would notice that his guests never came back after going up (perhaps the doorman)
@riponyou907 and yes you are right, in real life, nobody can shoot people and cops in the "city that never sleeps" and get away with it like that (that scenes is meant to represent the climax of his madness.
However this does not mean he hallucinated anything. Patrick Bateman gets away with his crimes because society is too busy looking at the mirror (in a very superficial "how does my lip gloss look" kind of way) to even care.
So if it´s too confusing for you that the world in American Psycho is actually a satire, not to be taken as faithful reproduction of our own world, I suggest you stop watching this kind of movies and get in line for Transformers 3 (that´s realistic right?!!). Well that´s all for now (look forward to your answer of course).
Tata!
P.S.- I hope you can understand my dumbass comments and idiotic premises however illogical and ridicule they may seem to you.
@RalhaLamy2 the point of american psycho is to leave two options at the end, either it was all in his head (which makes a hell of a lot more sense), or society just got everybody confused with one another. I was WRONG for saying he know doubt hallucinated cuz thats not ture THERE IS NO ANSWER that was Ellis' goal. The thing that just bothered me with ur comment, is that it seemed with the 98 thumbs up everyone believed u, but u were wrong to say he didnt hallucinate there is no answer.
@riponyou907 Wait! All it took was my argumentation for you to go from calling me a dumbass idiot, to accepting my interpretation as one of the possible endings?! Maybe if I keep this up you will dance, little monkey! As to what Ellis' goal was I assume that, being his book a social satire and all..., he wanted to make society look the most ridicule.
This would fail if the main character had only just hallucinated the crimes and events narrated because it implies that all (or nearly all) of the actions happened inside his head, this makes for the deep psychological crime drama that Christian Bale said he wasn’t very interested in doing when he first heard about American Psycho. Here is a free dumbass lesson: social satire is about putting society on the spotlight and showing its flaws to cause humour, disgust and revolt.
Hallucinations, paranoia ad the likes are about putting a character on the main spot because the action becomes all about them, this elements can be used in social satire but they are never the main theme.
@RalhaLamy2 ur kidding right? for god's sake Im pretty sure ellis says himself that the ending is supposed to be a mystery. Also, stop acting like your smart and stop crying over how I called you a dumbass cuz you keep mentioning that. The movie isn't like shutter island where the whole thing is explained, there is no explanation, like he says in the end, ''No new knowledge can be extracted from my telling. This confession has meant nothing". This clearly implies that there is no specific ending
@riponyou907 No it doesn´t you dumb fucking cunt!!! It means what I´ve already said that his actions carried no weight and that that is his ultimate failure, to cause indifference. I don´t have to act smart because no matter what I say I would always come out that way next to someone like you, what I hate about the internet is that I can´t slap your fat face when you persist in trying to come off as right.
@RalhaLamy2 THERE IS NO ENDING, TWO OPTIONS LEFT OPEN, read dantedraco's comment he just made, Ellis even said himself he doesnt know if the murders happened. Holy shit its an internet argument dont get your panties in a bunch, and also dont make stupid comments based on incorrect facts if you cant handle an argument. I honestly dont see what you can reply back?? the fucking writer agrees with me haha YOU LOSE
@riponyou907 Your a jerk off! First you said that he without a doubt hallucinated everything and then you said there is no answer. Well I presented my reading of the story in my first comment that got like a hundred thumbs up ( I guess that's why you got upset ) and then you just replied with your reading of the movie and book, I explainde why I think my reading makes more sense but your welcome to disagree.. you know qhat just fuck off I´m not gonna explain to you shit you don´t understand....
@RalhaLamy2 What dont you get??? I did change my opinion on whether or not he hallucinated cuz i figured out more about it, i've told you specifically that the fuckin WRITER said there is no answer, and instead of agreeing with the one who invented the whole fucking concept, you decide to stick to your fuckin little opinion. You are completely stubborn.
@Foekjoe The real estate agent disposed of them because she knew that if they were found she wouldn´t be able to sell the house or would have to greatly lower the price. That´s why she told him to go, she knew he was the killer. That´s greedy America for you!
@Ralhalamy Very interesting thought, one that didn't hit me, but it could well be right. The only thing that makes me lean more towards the hallucination theory is the fact that the detective claimed Paul Allan was seen in London and the house he went back to for the bodies. But, the more I look at your comment, the more I'm swayed to your version.
@MrDudley1990 Well the lawyer seeing Paul Allen represents the ultimate kick in the teeth received by Patrick Bateman. Most killers are somewhat excited when they get caught because they finally get what they shought after in the first place: "recognition". Bateman doesn't get arrested and people don´t even agnowledge his victims, whick shows an utter indifferance of the world towards him. In the end all the crimes he did were irrelevant because his victims aren't missed.
@MrDudley1990 Ok remember right in the begining when they can't figure out whos paul in the restraunt?Or how paul confuses patrick with marcus?Or when patricks in the hallway and someone says "hey alan"?Or how patrick gets an albi from marcus?Or how someone in london thought they saw paul but didn't?And then his lawyer confuses him with david.You got it yet?
I'm not mad i'm just saying it colud do a little good to pay more notice to these things.
@Ralhalamy That's very true in the film. But if you read the book, you'll realize that Bateman is completely out of his mind and his crimes may very well be hallucinated. For crying out loud, he gets stalked by a park bench.
@soccerprog226 I dom't remember that from the book... but in any case that could mean just plain parannoia as most serial killers are, they may imagine many things but they do commit the murders that make them, well... serial killers.
@RalhaLamy2 He's not paranoid. The entire book is a social satire on the yuppie culture of the '80s, and how they're not so different from killers. But yes, Bateman is quite insane. On his favorite talk show, he sees the host interviewing a large cheerio, as well as bigfoot. There's more proof that he's out of his mind in the book. The movie kind of reinvents the story, and changes the ambiguity of the book.
I think this is supposed to be a deep ass philosophical analysis of the emotions of the Bourgeoisie (specifically young wall street type). Bateman has confessed his guts out to his crimes and yet what happens? It is ignored, looked away at. Financial capital has committed immense crimes around the world (the analogy being all those killings Bateman commits) and yet they are looked away @.
I think its important to note that the ones who looked away at his crimes were his peers; other elite..
A lot of people claim that the ending reveals that Bateman hallucinated the book/film's violent events, and someone told me that in this scene, you can see Jared Leto's character alive and well... After careful examination, I think I got trolled.
@Jokaanan - Yeah, I think that's what happened too. All the murders he committed were just kind of a hallucination, what he wanted to do, but didn't do in real life. As far as the Jared Leto thing goes, I'm not sure. I've heard that before too but I kind of thought he was a "tumbling, tumbling dickweed" as well and never really looked for him.
@theer1ca I disagree simply because, if he hallucinated everything, this entire lovely, bloody, fucked-up, near-mythological story becomes a trite psychological trick. And I just can't deal with that, after having enjoyed the film so much.
It's not as open ended as you want to think, Bret Easton Ellis wrote the American Psycho 2000 emails that state Bateman did kill Paul and got away with it, some unknown incident occurred that forced him to leave Pierce and Pierce and start his own bank, Kimball became Police Commisoner and is good friends with Bateman, he married Jean and divorced her after having a son, he still kills but not as much because of his son. It turns out Jean is dating Batemans shrink who Bateman has been emailing.
Cuss100 1 month ago
How did patricks lawyer eat lunch with Paul ? he just killed him... WTF
Crafter07 1 month ago
@Crafter07 I think this goes into the whole "mistakened identity" theme in the movie. They would change the names of people they thought they knew, and they were called different names by others as well. I think.
horsey05 2 weeks ago
This film was brilliant because it's actually about the psychotic nature of society. People are so self absorbed and unaware that they woudn't know a serial killer if he screamed their confession right in their face. Patrick Bateman may have been insane, but unlike the fake idiots around him, he is aware of it. Everyone wears a mask, Patrick just takes his off once in a while.
AnotherMasterMind 1 month ago 4
@AnotherMasterMind Isn't insane when one is unaware of their condition?
MrVarsityphysics 1 month ago
@MrVarsityphysics I was using the word insane when meaning sociopathic or psychotic. My bad, the words are too often used synonymously.
AnotherMasterMind 1 month ago
My point of view: Bateman explains he has reached kind of absolute cynicism. But he explains its not a release. its a prison. For me, The real Bateman's personnality is sensitive, full of hope and love (Music analyzes). but he cannot express this side in his outside life. ans he finally gives up in the end : " but inside doesnt matter "
So hes full of resentment because he undestands definitly he will never be him self in this world. So he wont get " deeper knowledges of himself".
GTAxSecrets 2 months ago
i dont get it
samsquamch94 2 months ago
I just dont know if he kill paul allen or not ..
ULikeMyVideoQc 2 months ago
This movie is a satyre or a parody, not really a serious thing ironically. The business card scene explains it all, minor things like that grab peoples attention while say....the disappearance of a person goes unnoticed.
powerfulnun 2 months ago
I'm 23, yesterday I saw this movie for the first time, and realized my father has all this qualities inside of his personality or what is left of it... that's why I don't love him, nor my mother, nor anybody... and I'm only an ambicious fuck luckily
carlosubeda 3 months ago
@carlosubeda runs in the family?
jimbobhk2009 2 months ago
After just watching this for the first time, I was confused.
Bateman's lawyer told him that he had dinner with Paul recently, so I thought none of it actually happened, like it was all in his mind, but after reading comments I get it now.
Thank you internet.
TheXsK 3 months ago 5
Ah, Bale! He tries to be American, but the delivery and mannerisms give the game away. ;D
AddictedToAndrea 3 months ago
Patrick Bateman is Bret Easton Ellis and this movie and monologue is honesty expressed by Bret Easton Ellis. His Confession meant nothing, and he inflicted pain in other peoples lives very succesfully. The creative process is so much more complex than I think most people believe it is. It is just not "sit down and write what you think a serial killer would write". The whole thing is a expression of Brets feelings and the inspiration form that is endless.
konteee 3 months ago
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@konteee Oh, shut up, you worthless cunt. No one gives a cunt what you think, you fucking cunt. I marked your comment as spam. Even such a designation is too high. Get fucked, you putrid stain.
AddictedToAndrea 3 months ago
The book is better because it calls into question whether or not the events as depicted by Bateman really occured or were the delusions of a pyschotic mind.
BenGCPersall 3 months ago
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Not really. It was cleared up when the taxi driver accused him of killing his friend.
Alexbaddy 3 months ago
I don't feel as if they just don't care so they don't mind him doing these things, I think the other people in the movie just don't care what he is doing. Their eyes are so focused on the superficial aspects in life they cannot interpret the core values and meanings of life. When you uncover the mask and disguise of society, you will see that people all share this same problem.
NoWorriesNoProblem 4 months ago
@NoWorriesNoProblem I agree. It also has to do with the fact that everyone is so self-absorbed that they cannot see whats happening to Bateman... nor anyone else. They are only focused on themselves and how to succeed more!
imathatgrl 3 months ago
what a wonderful ending to a wonderful movie.
sectsandviolins 4 months ago
Wait, so who did Bateman kill if it wasn't Paul Allen? Was Allen being as egotistical as everyone else, and just agreeing with Bateman's mistake? Or was his lawyer being the egocentric one?
TORCHWOOD006 4 months ago
@TORCHWOOD006 there's a possibility that his insanity has made him think he did kill Paul Allen...
tatsky84 4 months ago
someone explain this movie, it making me mad lol!!!!!!!!!!!
sazalking 4 months ago
@sazalking whats to explain?
jimbobhk2009 4 months ago
@jimbobhk2009 what happens at the end how come he got away and what was the main story about expect his a pyscho
sazalking 4 months ago
@sazalking sorry i don't understand. got away with the murders?, expect he's a psycho?
jimbobhk2009 4 months ago
the point of american psycho was it was a satire against consumerism.No ones paying attention to anything but there money.Thats why paul thought patrick was marcus. Why patrick was given an albai for pauls murder by marcus. And why his lawyer thought he was david.
Fuck pay attention next time will ya?!
Dontmakemecomeover5 4 months ago
@Dontmakemecomeover5 That didn't make any sense, lol. Fail explanation you have there.
TeamPlasmaKingN 2 months ago
@TeamPlasmaKingN What doesn't make sense about it?
Dontmakemecomeover5 2 months ago
@Dontmakemecomeover5 Well.. Everything in general. Maybe because you explained the same thing a bit differently worded? Idk.
TeamPlasmaKingN 2 months ago
This confession has meant nothing. FUCK I LOVE THAT LINE.
Zsmart 4 months ago 2
Isn't this the only time we see Patrick drink something?
Tgogators 5 months ago
The whole point of post-modern literature and films is that of the subjective and the existence of personal 'realities' that replace any absolute truth. Telling other people that your specific theory of what happened is the truth means that you don't understand the intended meaning.... and even this opinion may be misguided. That's the point.
Elwood1992 5 months ago
-This is not an exit-
Lukyo1984 5 months ago
If you people would read the book you would understand that he did everything that is portrayed.
DrunkenNElf 5 months ago
@DrunkenNElf Except the author himself says it was intentionally left open ended.
idgarad 2 months ago
"I am without a face among men. I am not seen. I speak and am not heard. I come and am not welcomed. There is no place by the fire me, nor food on the table for me, nor a bed made for me to lie in. Yet I still have my name...that name I lay on this hearth as a curse, and with it my shame. Keep that for me. Now nameless I will go to seek my death." - The Left Hand of Darkness
breeeegs 5 months ago
he did kill all those people, but since he's rich and everything, he got away with it. His lawyer probably covered it all up. Notice he says "My punishment continues to elude me" and "this confession has meant nothing"
trixANDstonez 5 months ago
By the way, this is fiction... just FYI.
Arkimedes79 5 months ago
He learns that believing in the superficial has nothing to do with meaning, he is psychotic, and will by his call for help in an environment that betters anonymity, be what he has always been... from an early start.
Nothing good comes from appearence, only distance.
Arkimedes79 5 months ago
Ellis has said different things, like in the American Psycho 2000 emails he stated Patrick did kill Paul Allen and still kills people. Then there's the whole weird shit in Lunar Park.
There is no one definitive answer.
Cuss100 5 months ago
@PiarasFeiritear thank you lol
riponyou907 5 months ago
psycho is short form for psychopath and riponyou907 is right you don't have to be a killer to be a psychopath the definition of psychopath is:
Also called: sociopath: a person afflicted with a personality disorder characterized by a tendency to commit antisocial and sometimes violent acts and a failure to feel guilt for such acts
just because you are a psychopath doesn't mean you are a killer it just means you don't show remorse for the things you do.
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TrevorNeeteson 6 months ago
Possibly the greatest movie...ever...next to?...ummm...
batman53092 7 months ago
Batman, you look frail... Aren't you eating properly, Bruce?
ChainCat23 7 months ago
THIS CONFESSION HAS MEANT NOTHING.
monkeynuts76 7 months ago 12
Something i left the old woman said go out and dont find problems..... then he went out and siad no i won`t*,,,if you are a bit clever you can unnderstand it.
Furthermore23 7 months ago
@Furthermore23 read the book. Ralhalamy's interpretation is the one i am far more inclined to believe. I wouldn't base my interpretation of American Psycho on the film. So yeah read the book before posting another long incoherent comment!
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pazolek20 7 months ago
@JoeyASRV Definitely. This is a really good film, and this scene is, as you probably know, taken word-for-word from Ellis's novel.
IDoNotBlameYou 7 months ago
His secreatary the saws bateman notebook and realied that he was having a problem.... but the crime scenes were not real, it was his mind.
Furthermore23 7 months ago
then when he for example went to the rent haouse he found an old woman and he said to him "go out not cause more pain" or something like that what does it mean?is another metaphor of the film.... then the lawyer said "you dont murder anyone" ant the policeman said i saw paul allen in london having lunch with somebody" i think that his psycopathy didn't appear finally because of the closed society he was it finally wasn`t, he just got some manierisms and he was suffering but he didnt killed any1
Furthermore23 7 months ago
You guys didnt understand anything on the film right? the crimes were never done.... let's introduce the film.... Bateman was living on a yupee society of the 80`s, all people was so egocentric that they only cared about themselves, they even confuse their names....there are some scenes that you can see the metaphoric part of the film..... for example when bateman went to that bar and he screams the whore he was looking to a mirror so it really was his mind who was talking, not him....
Furthermore23 7 months ago
why does this music not exist in any soundtrack or known artist
Fahstudios13579 8 months ago
@Fahstudios13579 The film's score was released as a non-commercially available promo soundtrack in 2003, by the composer, John Cale. Your best is venturing out onto the internet, as there is no way to buy a genuine copy legally.
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This was great. Please check out a version called American Psycho Sitcom Laughter. It's really entertaining. Any feedback would be appreciated.
navy4181 8 months ago
There are no more barriers to cross.
All I have in common with the uncontrollable and the insane, the vicious and the evil, all the mayhem I have caused... and my utter indifference toward it, I have now surpassed. My pain is constant and sharp... and I do not hope for a better world for anyone. In fact, I want my pain to be inflicted on others. I want no one to escape. But even after admitting this, there is no catharsis. My punishment continues to elude me... and I gain
Sayonara69 8 months ago
i have to return some videotapes
masondarko 8 months ago 3
The great revelation at the end of the movie is that Bateman actually did kill all of those people. Some believe the ending is supposed to mean he hallucinated them. He didn't. Everyone is so egotistical in 1980's Wall Street that they don't pay attention, or care, what's happening. No one notices what Bateman has been doing, nor do they even have the time to even find out.
Bateman is and forever will be an American Psycho.
A pretty fucking awesome one, too.
KittyRokher 9 months ago
I DONT UNDERSTAND THIS, CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN PLEASE!!??!?! THANKS !!
TheClashyyy 9 months ago
@TheClashyyy Well, what exactly don't you understand?
hahohao 9 months ago
@hahohao the ending. what does he mean?
koukoula123 9 months ago
@koukoula123 What he's basically saying is he is constantly living in a mental hell, so to speak. He has a feeling of emptiness because he can't relate to anyone except, as he said, the vicious and the evil, uncontrollable and insane. He is not emotionally intelligent and he can't connect and that's probably why he has a constant pain, the pain of having something missing, and not knowing what's missing. In his case, he doesn't truly understand love, most psychopaths don't..........
hahohao 9 months ago
@hahohao oh oh oh, ok that makes sense. thanks :)
koukoula123 9 months ago
@koukoula123 .......because if he did, he wouldn't have a constant hunger to tear everyone else down. When you love yourself or someone else truly, you feel fulfilled.
hahohao 9 months ago
that at first he somehow felt remorse(when he called the lawyer)
but then realized that most people(he knows) "deserves" to be killed.
joaoluizsn 8 months ago
It's interesting that he says he has a constant sharp pain when he has everything......
hahohao 9 months ago
The detective (willem dafoe) is his conscience!
FrancieliMartins 9 months ago
am i the only one who noticed the irony of bale playing Bateman in american psycho and Batman on dark knight?
suckmynickname 9 months ago 2
It is implied that Bateman was severely depersonalized to such an extent that he cannot differ reality from fantasy, thus in a sense it is left to our imagination as to whether he committed those acts of violence or not. Bateman, on the other hand, along with his yuppie crowd, are shallow hedonists, which would contribute to their materialistic cravings and ignorant, self absorbed personalities. In the world Ellis creates, there are nothing more than social status and consumerism.
RCPstudioeS 9 months ago
The murders did actually happen IMHO. The look on the woman renting that appartments face, like she knew what he'd done there, and there was paint and stuff all over. Everyone being so self-absorbed and confusing eachother for Marcus Hallbastram or Paul Allen or whoever helps him get away with it. Also I personally think its better that it all happened or it would have ruined it, like Shutter Island, I wanted there to be human experiments in the lighthouse.
PsychoBisket 9 months ago
i heard some good points on here. and now im quite confused. i think maybe its a mixture of what michaelstorms said and Ralhalamy.
i also think trying to make complete sense of this movie isn't always the best thing to do. i feel that the writer had a moral to put out, basically what Ralhalamy said, and things like the business cards all saying 'vice president' dont have to add up. its just part of the moral/joke.
Greno 10 months ago
actually if you think deeper, it is his father and powerful individuals who we do not see in the movie who go around covering up what he does. That is why the apartment was cleaned and emptied and the woman renting the place told him not to come back. She was warning him not to be foolish and indirectly telling him that everything has been taken care of so no asking questions. If you look at her when he asked what happened here she immediately realizes who she is talking to and cautioned him.
michaelstorms100 10 months ago 7
@michaelstorms100 Likewise his lawyer covers for him by claiming to have had dinner with Paul Allen in London.
AddictedToAndrea 3 months ago
someone explain this to me?
Aquasex1987 10 months ago
for i am batman.
BEARARMZ 10 months ago
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sexydanny21awesome 10 months ago
What do you think his car is called? Possibly...the BATEmobile!? Hyuck, hyuck, hyuck!
Thank you, I'll be here all week.
Metamorp8 10 months ago
@Metamorp8 Simply WIN! 8D
sauronwibble 10 months ago
Paul Allen disliked this video 9 times
Hallahvaskjera 10 months ago
Great acting from christian bale
christio8p 10 months ago
I think this movie is great because we can relate to Bateman
Living in hedonism without no rules between and what's wrong and right.
But still Bateman is a Narsistic Serial Killer
frustratedgamerguy 10 months ago
there is no catharsis....
birdofprey51 11 months ago
AP : we should be scare of wallstreet! their greed is a killer, their narsicism is scary. thats what this movie is about. did he or did he not kill all those people is ur interpretation, but one thing you gotta know is the ditective was only interviewing Bateman, not the rest of his friends. that can mean it was all in his head. or they were so much into themselves they dodnt know who people really are
hunterallen48 11 months ago
in angels dont kill "i want know one to escape is in the beginning, and " my pain is constant and sharp, and i do not hope for a better world for anyone, infact i want my pain to be inflicted on others" is at the end of bodom beach terror, both songs by children of bodom
vipershredder10 11 months ago 2
BATeMAN
CrabtechIndustries 1 year ago 45
As of this moment, 666 people like this video. That's the sign to tell: this movie is the devil.
boldsign 1 year ago
@boldsign not any more
ares12790 1 year ago
Why does there have to be a definitive answer? Why can't it just be left alone and that maybe he did kill all those people, maybe he didn't? I think it's alot more interesting when it's left a mystery.
TheSuperplex1001 1 year ago 7
@TheSuperplex1001 Easton said himself HE doesn't know if the murders happened.
dantedraco 5 months ago
wow i overlooked that 1 well spoted mate!
spasemonkey05 1 year ago
scares me how much this soothe me
22tus 1 year ago
where the hell is my comment ??? did i say something wrong ????
damienforlan87 1 year ago
The ending is open to interpretation even the books author said in a interview: "Regarding the murders, I was always on the fence about whether they were fantasy or real. I don’t know and I prefer it that way."
Midgar2310 1 year ago
The book shows his steady progression into madness better than the movie.
scorzi 1 year ago 4
@scorzi I've heard the the construction and pacing of the events is a bit more haphazard though. It's still near the top of my to read list though.
rorkimaru 1 year ago
Gave me chills the first time I watched it
89ASM 1 year ago
This Is Not An Exit
SgtTravisBickle 1 year ago
He never hallucinated his crimes, his lawyer simply had lunch with another guy whom he thought was Allen. They are all so self absorved that they don t even know who their talking to, that s what is so hilarious.
Ralhalamy 1 year ago 106
@Ralhalamy but that dont expain who ordered his crimes covered up
spasemonkey05 1 year ago
@spasemonkey05 Doesnt ´t it??! The real estate agent did it. If the bodies were found in the apartment the market value for the apartment would drop. So the greedy bitch disposed of the bodies and once she saw him and realised that he was the one who had done those murders she told him to leave. Does that make sense to you?
Ralhalamy 1 year ago
@Ralhalamy
That's not true, it remains unanswered if he has hallucinated or if the other guys are to stupid to see he killed a lot of people.
Citrus3000 1 year ago
@Ralhalamy That's your take on it, I agree its a hilarious film but in the book its left incredibly open. The ending is so vague that you can look at it from several perspectives.
mrjlom 1 year ago
@Ralhalamy Yeah,he's really walking through NYC blowing up cars,shooting security guards, and having helicopters circle office buildings. WTF?
TheTrailerCREAT0R 11 months ago
@TheTrailerCREAT0R actualy he was lol
neilwilson557 11 months ago
@Ralhalamy Bateman didn't kill Paul Allen, I'm sure of it. Pay attention to the business card scene, someone gives him a business card with Paul's name on it, but it's not the guy who gets killed in Bateman's apartment.
wretchedspawn118 10 months ago
@wretchedspawn118 but the man that got killed in his apartment responded to the name Paul , in the business card scene it was Bryce who happened to have Paul Allens card , the interesting thing though is that they are ALL vice president of the same company so how does that work? are they all characters he made up ? or what the hell ?? there is definitely an open mind and suggestive interpretation of this movie
patrickbateman7 10 months ago
@patrickbateman7 You have a point there, but the guy Bateman killed was also hammered out of his mind. He might have responded to just about anything.
wretchedspawn118 10 months ago
@patrickbateman7 paul allen gave Bryce his card before Bateman showed the others his card, thats why Bryce had it. But that doesn't clear anything up, the ending is meant to be entirely ambiguous..thats the point, it cant be solved. the real is intwined with the imaginery, which is seen through the cat at the atm scene and the police car explosion scene so we don't know what to believe. plus the recurring idea of mistaken identity contributes to the ambiguity. no one is going to solve the plot.
aidyquinn 8 months ago
@aidyquinn you are correct :D !
patrickbateman7 8 months ago
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@Ralhalamy Completely wrong, did you miss the scene where he goes to the apartment he thinks he stored the bodies in, only to find a real estate giving tours? Or how about the fact that he went screaming down his apartment hallway with a chainsaw and NO ONE thought anything was weird or called the cops? Or that he supposedly killed 20 people in a street rampage and hid in his office, only for no one to be looking for him or anyone mentioning the bloodiest massacre in NYC history?
Lastofthesnugge 10 months ago
@Ralhalamy even the atm tilling him to feed it a stray cat ? and blowing up the police car with a hand gun ?
patrickbateman7 10 months ago
@Ralhalamy even the atm telling him to feed it a stray cat ? and blowing up the police car with a hand gun ?
patrickbateman7 10 months ago
@Ralhalamy no
mjamie0 10 months ago
@Ralhalamy while i certainly prefer this interpretaiton, i believe both the book and the movie (fantastic adaptation) do not lead the audience one way or the other. it is left perfectly open.
thebukkake 10 months ago
@Ralhalamy how can you believe this interpretation when the appartment was totally EMPTY and in SALE!
Ste13MD 10 months ago
@Ralhalamy That's what I was thinking, but I couldn't be sure....His lawyer claimed that it was Paul Allen, but the detective had mentioned earlier than someone else had mistaken him already.......smh
dcollegeboy 9 months ago
@Ralhalamy The movie is purposefully ambiguous. Your theory is not fact.
DarkTakoshi 8 months ago
@DarkTakoshi Half the film (and the original novel) is redundant if his "theory" is incorrect. Easton Ellis can be as obtuse as hell about the meaning of his work, if he likes. However, the fact of the matter is that the whole point of the film is that Bateman has done (almost) every act documented within it. It's just society's greed and utter complacency that have caused people not to care at all. It's too much hassle to punish him, and so therefore society doesn't. It's as simple as that.
traphoot 8 months ago 19
@traphoot man im sick of people like you trying to explain the ending, it's left open man, you can think that go ahead doesnt mean your right though, its called a theory.
riponyou907 5 months ago 14
@riponyou907 actually what happened was the author of the book wanted to go with Patrick being insane, and none of this being real. but the director wanted to play off the greed and non-human-ness of 80's wall street brokers, saying that just as "paul" though patrick was someone else, patrick thought someone random was "paul" and he never actually talked to paul, and killed someone completely different. boom explained
TheLovemonster8 1 month ago
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@riponyou907
what happens really happens, the director said so herself, just saying
PharaohIslands 1 month ago
@traphoot I respect your opinion, but I think that Christian Bale wasn't Patrick Bateman all along but he believed himself to be that person. All the murders & felonies he committed where all an illusion created by him in his head, for example, his assistant at the end of the film discovers a notebook of disturbing murders similar to the ones portrayed(the women with the chainsaw on the napkin). Also before the doorman was murdered called Pat Mr Smith in this video-Don't forget to sign on left
TheCelticTiger32 5 months ago
@traphoot I find it fascinating that you're choosing to ignore what the author did deliberately and just slap on your own meaning. It isn't as simple as you say, Bateman is a complex character, satirising the generation of the time. Ellis has also said that it is never made clear in the book whether he did all the things he said he did, or whether he made them up. Get your facts right and don't pin your own meaning on something like its fact.
OliviaTheGeek 4 months ago
@DarkTakoshi I think you mean, ``your *hypothesis* is not fact.'' A theory is a substantiated hypothesis, whereas a hypothesis is not. :)
UseAsDirected100 8 months ago
@Ralhalamy thats one theory, the point of the novel and movie is to leave that idea open, ur wrong saying that he never hallucinated his crimes, the whole point of the movie is to make you think two different ways, he either is just totally insane and made it all up in his head, or the confusion of the wall street yuppie culture confused everyone. btw being a psycho doesnt mean ur a killer, its short for psychological which involves mindtricks, which further makes me belive he hallucinated
riponyou907 6 months ago
@riponyou907 i believe most of the time bateman was in his own fucked up little world, im sure hes killed but not as much as he thinks he did...i kind of feel bad for the guy, imagine you not being able to know? being stukc in your own fucked up world without ever controlling it
dasdasist 6 months ago
@Ralhalamy u are an idiot, i watched the movie again and theres no way he commited the crimes, how the fuck does a man walk throught NYC blow up two fuckin police cars shoot like 7 people, and not get caught? clearly he fuckin hallucinated u dumbass
riponyou907 6 months ago
@riponyou907 So glad you took the careful deliberation and time before pronouncing me an idiot!
To the matter in question: neither the book or the movie were supposed to be realistic, in real life people would ask questions whenever his victims disappears, of course somebody living in his high class upper Manhattan building would notice that his guests never came back after going up (perhaps the doorman)
RalhaLamy2 6 months ago
@riponyou907 and yes you are right, in real life, nobody can shoot people and cops in the "city that never sleeps" and get away with it like that (that scenes is meant to represent the climax of his madness.
However this does not mean he hallucinated anything. Patrick Bateman gets away with his crimes because society is too busy looking at the mirror (in a very superficial "how does my lip gloss look" kind of way) to even care.
RalhaLamy2 6 months ago
In simpler words people don´t give a shit!
So if it´s too confusing for you that the world in American Psycho is actually a satire, not to be taken as faithful reproduction of our own world, I suggest you stop watching this kind of movies and get in line for Transformers 3 (that´s realistic right?!!). Well that´s all for now (look forward to your answer of course).
Tata!
P.S.- I hope you can understand my dumbass comments and idiotic premises however illogical and ridicule they may seem to you.
RalhaLamy2 6 months ago
@RalhaLamy2 the point of american psycho is to leave two options at the end, either it was all in his head (which makes a hell of a lot more sense), or society just got everybody confused with one another. I was WRONG for saying he know doubt hallucinated cuz thats not ture THERE IS NO ANSWER that was Ellis' goal. The thing that just bothered me with ur comment, is that it seemed with the 98 thumbs up everyone believed u, but u were wrong to say he didnt hallucinate there is no answer.
riponyou907 6 months ago
@riponyou907 Wait! All it took was my argumentation for you to go from calling me a dumbass idiot, to accepting my interpretation as one of the possible endings?! Maybe if I keep this up you will dance, little monkey! As to what Ellis' goal was I assume that, being his book a social satire and all..., he wanted to make society look the most ridicule.
RalhaLamy2 5 months ago
This would fail if the main character had only just hallucinated the crimes and events narrated because it implies that all (or nearly all) of the actions happened inside his head, this makes for the deep psychological crime drama that Christian Bale said he wasn’t very interested in doing when he first heard about American Psycho. Here is a free dumbass lesson: social satire is about putting society on the spotlight and showing its flaws to cause humour, disgust and revolt.
RalhaLamy2 5 months ago
Hallucinations, paranoia ad the likes are about putting a character on the main spot because the action becomes all about them, this elements can be used in social satire but they are never the main theme.
RalhaLamy2 5 months ago
@RalhaLamy2 ur kidding right? for god's sake Im pretty sure ellis says himself that the ending is supposed to be a mystery. Also, stop acting like your smart and stop crying over how I called you a dumbass cuz you keep mentioning that. The movie isn't like shutter island where the whole thing is explained, there is no explanation, like he says in the end, ''No new knowledge can be extracted from my telling. This confession has meant nothing". This clearly implies that there is no specific ending
riponyou907 5 months ago
@riponyou907 No it doesn´t you dumb fucking cunt!!! It means what I´ve already said that his actions carried no weight and that that is his ultimate failure, to cause indifference. I don´t have to act smart because no matter what I say I would always come out that way next to someone like you, what I hate about the internet is that I can´t slap your fat face when you persist in trying to come off as right.
RalhaLamy2 5 months ago
@RalhaLamy2 THERE IS NO ENDING, TWO OPTIONS LEFT OPEN, read dantedraco's comment he just made, Ellis even said himself he doesnt know if the murders happened. Holy shit its an internet argument dont get your panties in a bunch, and also dont make stupid comments based on incorrect facts if you cant handle an argument. I honestly dont see what you can reply back?? the fucking writer agrees with me haha YOU LOSE
riponyou907 5 months ago
@riponyou907 Your a jerk off! First you said that he without a doubt hallucinated everything and then you said there is no answer. Well I presented my reading of the story in my first comment that got like a hundred thumbs up ( I guess that's why you got upset ) and then you just replied with your reading of the movie and book, I explainde why I think my reading makes more sense but your welcome to disagree.. you know qhat just fuck off I´m not gonna explain to you shit you don´t understand....
RalhaLamy2 5 months ago
@RalhaLamy2 What dont you get??? I did change my opinion on whether or not he hallucinated cuz i figured out more about it, i've told you specifically that the fuckin WRITER said there is no answer, and instead of agreeing with the one who invented the whole fucking concept, you decide to stick to your fuckin little opinion. You are completely stubborn.
riponyou907 5 months ago
@Ralhalamy Ok, I believe you. But where did the bodies go?
Foekjoe 6 months ago
@Foekjoe The real estate agent disposed of them because she knew that if they were found she wouldn´t be able to sell the house or would have to greatly lower the price. That´s why she told him to go, she knew he was the killer. That´s greedy America for you!
RalhaLamy2 5 months ago
@RalhaLamy2 Of course.. Thanks man.
Foekjoe 5 months ago
@Ralhalamy Very interesting thought, one that didn't hit me, but it could well be right. The only thing that makes me lean more towards the hallucination theory is the fact that the detective claimed Paul Allan was seen in London and the house he went back to for the bodies. But, the more I look at your comment, the more I'm swayed to your version.
MrDudley1990 6 months ago
@MrDudley1990 Well the lawyer seeing Paul Allen represents the ultimate kick in the teeth received by Patrick Bateman. Most killers are somewhat excited when they get caught because they finally get what they shought after in the first place: "recognition". Bateman doesn't get arrested and people don´t even agnowledge his victims, whick shows an utter indifferance of the world towards him. In the end all the crimes he did were irrelevant because his victims aren't missed.
RalhaLamy2 5 months ago
@MrDudley1990 PS- The lawyer confused someone else with Paul Allan.
RalhaLamy2 5 months ago
@MrDudley1990 Ok remember right in the begining when they can't figure out whos paul in the restraunt?Or how paul confuses patrick with marcus?Or when patricks in the hallway and someone says "hey alan"?Or how patrick gets an albi from marcus?Or how someone in london thought they saw paul but didn't?And then his lawyer confuses him with david.You got it yet?
I'm not mad i'm just saying it colud do a little good to pay more notice to these things.
Dontmakemecomeover5 4 months ago
@Dontmakemecomeover5 Very true, I personally see about 6 or 7 different interpretations each one could be as accurate as the next.
MrDudley1990 4 months ago
@Ralhalamy That's very true in the film. But if you read the book, you'll realize that Bateman is completely out of his mind and his crimes may very well be hallucinated. For crying out loud, he gets stalked by a park bench.
soccerprog226 6 months ago
@soccerprog226 I dom't remember that from the book... but in any case that could mean just plain parannoia as most serial killers are, they may imagine many things but they do commit the murders that make them, well... serial killers.
RalhaLamy2 5 months ago
@RalhaLamy2 He's not paranoid. The entire book is a social satire on the yuppie culture of the '80s, and how they're not so different from killers. But yes, Bateman is quite insane. On his favorite talk show, he sees the host interviewing a large cheerio, as well as bigfoot. There's more proof that he's out of his mind in the book. The movie kind of reinvents the story, and changes the ambiguity of the book.
soccerprog226 5 months ago
fuck ads on the side...
carsismeZ06 1 year ago
Bateman=Batman
haohaohayashi 1 year ago 2
@haohaohayashi innit!
kevincarter2020 1 year ago
@kevincarter2020 hm?
haohaohayashi 1 year ago
Does anybody know where I could get this whole thing typed out or in some form? I just want to have.
Theuncontrolled 1 year ago
@Theuncontrolled Buy the book - most of the scences are the same only shorter
BonnParty 1 year ago
@BonnParty There is a book!? =O Thank you for telling me.
Theuncontrolled 1 year ago
@Theuncontrolled
You should read the book.. It's written by Brett Easton Ellis. You'll get alot more insight.
BlacksVideos 1 year ago 5
Powerful monologue, It sums up the sociopatic reality extremely accurately.
petzolkot 1 year ago
WHERE'S THE OSCAR HOLLYWWOD?! another good movie that went unnoticed for the so-called experts of modern cinema
darthkantus 1 year ago
@darthkantus
I so agree with you but the content would never be considered for an award which is just pathetic!
thereisnopluto 10 months ago
I think this is supposed to be a deep ass philosophical analysis of the emotions of the Bourgeoisie (specifically young wall street type). Bateman has confessed his guts out to his crimes and yet what happens? It is ignored, looked away at. Financial capital has committed immense crimes around the world (the analogy being all those killings Bateman commits) and yet they are looked away @.
I think its important to note that the ones who looked away at his crimes were his peers; other elite..
abelmejia415 1 year ago 3
Where the fuck is Jared Leto?
Jokaanan 1 year ago
@Jokaanan - He was killed by an AXE in the FACE.
theer1ca 1 year ago 2
@theer1ca ^So much like
A lot of people claim that the ending reveals that Bateman hallucinated the book/film's violent events, and someone told me that in this scene, you can see Jared Leto's character alive and well... After careful examination, I think I got trolled.
Jokaanan 1 year ago
@Jokaanan - Yeah, I think that's what happened too. All the murders he committed were just kind of a hallucination, what he wanted to do, but didn't do in real life. As far as the Jared Leto thing goes, I'm not sure. I've heard that before too but I kind of thought he was a "tumbling, tumbling dickweed" as well and never really looked for him.
theer1ca 1 year ago
@theer1ca I disagree simply because, if he hallucinated everything, this entire lovely, bloody, fucked-up, near-mythological story becomes a trite psychological trick. And I just can't deal with that, after having enjoyed the film so much.
Jokaanan 1 year ago
One of the most memorable endings I have ever seen. This film is a true modern day classic.
DissectorofGirls 1 year ago