Incredible! I love the sound. So...this is a home-made rocket motor - right? I ask that because I thought that an "O" motor was the biggest CERTIFIED motor you can get. When you build a motor that big, does it need to be certified, inspected, registered, or something?
@Merlin5by5 Actually, it's AMMONIUM perchlorate, and it's not rubber cement. It is liquid rubber cured with curatives. You do not have to be ATF certified to make/own Ammonium Perchlorate Composite Propellant. To own any APCP over G impulse you must be high power certified by TRA, NAR, or CAR. This propellant was not the same mixture as the SRBs. This was more than likely Kosdon Fast Propellant, which did not include any metals. NASA's SRB propellant consists of AP,binder,curative,and aluminum
@Merlin5by5 5 gallons? I have ordered "liquid rubber" several times...It's called R45, and is cured with Papi 94. This is the standard by which most modern rocketeers make their motors. I build them too. I thought you were saying you have to have an ATF license to make motors, which you do not have to have. You also don't have to have any permission of any kind to fly up to G motors. I know about FAA clearance as well, I helped file for the Tripoli Idaho waiver.
@Merlin5by5 5 gallons? I have ordered "liquid rubber" several times...It's called R45, and is cured with Papi 94. This is the standard by which most modern rocketeers make their motors. I build them too. I thought you were saying you have to have an ATF license to make motors, which you do not have to have. You also don't have to have any permission of any kind to fly up to G motors. I know about FAA clearance as well, I helped file for the Tripoli Idaho waiver.
@Merlin5by5 you also do not have to have an ATF permit or cert to buy any chemical that goes into an APCP motor. Basically all you need is Ammonium Perchlorate, aluminum powder, binder(R45...liquid rubber) and your curative (papi 94 or E744)
@FranciscoSRO2 actually the biggest rocket ever built was in the x size motor range which was the saturn v rocket. shit a z class motor would produce about 25million pounds of thrust !!! 4 times that of the saturn v
haha would love to see a z rocket launch haha prob knock the shit right outta ya
@FranciscoSRO2 Short version: the space shuttle solid rocket boosters (the most powerful solid rocket motors made) work out to be AE class.
Long version: If you take "A" as 0, "B" as 1, and so on through "X", "Y", "Z"(25), "AA"(26), "AB", and so forth, each type goes from 1.25 * 2^[letter] to 2.5 * 2^[letter] newton-seconds of impulse. The space shuttle SRBs produced about 1.41 GN * s of impulse (back of the envelope math, here), which is just over 2.5 * 2^29 N*s, putting them barely into AE.
@NumberOneCanadian well you can't buy a motor like that. They do not make comercial O, P and Q motors(well some Os) You'll have to make the motor. but first oyu need to get level 1, 2 and 3 certs. it will take time
Wanna make these? Go down to your local hobby shop, Start with a starter kit, work your way up to C6-5, then D-12-7, then after that join a Rocket club, Get permission from the Club president to get a dangerous goods licence, and a pyrotechnician's specialty (rocketry) permit, then start building and learning a lot of geometry and trigonometry. Lots of Math, Lots of hard work= Lots of fun!
WOW I like that motor, its flying way up, then NORAD picks up something on Radar then fads, good thing it's not cold war anymore, we might of blamed it on those dam Soviets. haha
The offical boundry of space is when oxgen is at .06. which is 120,000 ft in the stratosphere. The highest plane flying in air is at 100,000 ft (the SR71 which only average 85,000 feet)... The U plane traveled at 75,000 ft..... Every thing above th sr71 floats
@HaxYoToast11 Slow to everything? We landed men on the moon, and invented a few cool things along the way. Suspension bridge, bifocals, refrigeration, Morse Code, revolver, motorcycle, phonograph... Do I even need to list those from the 20th century? Solar cell, airplane, gas mask, liquid fuel rocket, Richter magnitude scale, digital computer. That leaves us in the 1930s. We are usually first in things, which is why the Metric issue stands out so well.
We're broadcasting Rocket launches live for a new game from Intel and Dick Smith called Turboboost Touchdown. We're using 5 cameras + 2 onboard cameras and 9 different C,D and E engine fully decal'd rockets.
We're broadcasting Rocket launches live for a new game from Intel and Dick Smith called Turboboost Touchdown. We're using 5 cameras + 2 onboard cameras and 9 different C,D and E engine fully decal'd rockets.
Not sure you are ready to be honest. Research, practice, start small. Years or decades is the typical amount of time needed to get into rockets this big. Most of us never do either.
The launch BALLS 13 September 11, 2004 - Black Rock, NV: The mighty Q-motor powered vehicle designed and constructed by Dave Triano and Frank Kosdon of ShadowAero for the Mike Hobbs/Randy Helmond team successfully achieved a spectacular 100,000' altitude with full deployment.
think its cuz it reaches supersonic way up there and the sound has already gotten to you so it wont make one at ground level. if you were 2,000 feet up and that thing past you you'd definitely hear one
When the rocket goes mach speed, it basically puts out a giant disk of compressed air that is formed radially from the rocket itself. Ever see the white disk shaped cloud formed by a jet going supersonic? When that "disk" passes you, you hear the sonic boom. That "disk" will never pass you on the ground since it is formed on the horizontal plane and since it breaks the sound barrier quite a ways from the launch pad. Should the rocket turn on its side and pass you, you'd hear a sonic boom.
@ReliableSunPower They do make sonic booms, but sonic booms propagate in a cone, essentially at a right angle to the direction of travel. In other words, out to the side. Jets drop booms on the land because they are flying across the horizontal. You would have to be above the altitude where it first broke the speed of sound to hear the sonic boom, probably a small mountain would do it for a rocket this fast, or a plane. Also, it would not be that loud because this is a small object.
@supermanx127 Why not?! xD that would be another step toward modern civilization along with TVs & computers in every home there will be private defense system...you don't like your neighbor launch one of this at them BHOOM!!
@supermanx127 i dont think here in england we will ever be able to have such fun as lauching a home built rocket with that power to much health and safty over here
No. Regardless, if it flies above 3000' ASL you still need a permit and clearance from your Civill Aviation Safety Authority. If it's flying that high, even if it's not in airspace It can display a radar signature and is unsafe.
For those of you who didn't read my last comment here is the info again on this rocket and the launch.
The launch BALLS 13 September 11, 2004 - Black Rock, NV: The mighty Q-motor powered vehicle designed and constructed by Dave Triano and Frank Kosdon of ShadowAero for the Mike Hobbs/Randy Helmond team successfully achieved a spectacular 100,000' altitude with full deployment.
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No you fuckin retard, actually its not the official boundary of space. The earth's exosphere extends hundreds of miles above sea level if you want to get technical, prick.The line is 62.1 miles above sea level because any vehicle at this altitude would have to travel faster than orbital velocity in order to derive sufficient aerodynamic lift from the atmosphere to support itself. YOU DO RESEARCH FUCKHEAD!!!!!!!!!!!
Well as the poster of this video I would like to clarify once and for all. The Internationaly recognised altitude of space is 100 km or exactly 62.137 mi above sea level , HOWEVER the United States is the sole country in the world that recognises space as exactly 50 mi or 80.467 above sea level. Its called the Karman line and its greatly debated. Please will everyone remain civil, you sound oh so intelligent screaming "YOU DO RESEARCH FUCKHEAD"
I was using Rocksim and decided to mess around, and found a O8000 motor by Cesaroni Technologies inc. i made something it went to 61000 ft. haha it was cool. but ahh this is such an awesome motor!
No. You can't buy a Q motor, at least commercially. The largest motor you can buy (with a TRA or NAR L3 cert) is an O motor. This motor is 4 times that size and was "homemade". I'm not sure homemade is the right term, though. Frank Kosdon knows what he is doing... he owns a propulsion company and has a PhD in aerospace, I believe.
first of all you have to be 18 years of age, second you have to be a member of the NRA( nation rocketry association)after becom a member, you then have to build a level 1 rocket to get the level 1 certification,after level 1 you then get level 2,after level 2 is after level 3 . At level 3 you can buy the most powerful rocket engine out there.Just do a little research and u'll know how.
This is an amateur motor. The NRA and Tripoli do not regulate motors over O impulse. So you need to be over 18, have tons of BATF and other regulations met, have proper equipment, and tons of money.
Typo dude, I belong to the NAR... Sorry! Dont confuse me with the people who dont know what they are talking about here, check the name of my youtube account. Then go to my web page called highpowerrocketry.blogspot...
Btw... The biggest rocket to fly at balls so far as I know would be the OuR rocket - and R Motor. One S motor attempt was done, but it failed, along with at least one other R attempt that also failed.
The CSXT Go fast rocket was a unique launch event and doesnt really fit in under balls.
Wrong it was BALLS 13 September 11, 2004 - Black Rock, NV: The mighty Q-motor powered vehicle designed and constructed by Dave Triano and Frank Kosdon of ShadowAero for the Mike Hobbs/Randy Helmond team successfully achieved a spectacular 100,000' altitude with full deployment.
@456ner You doesnt need certs.... you can make the engines, but you cant launch it on contests... maybe you can launch at home :D
135poly 2 weeks ago
if your neighbors are pissing you off you could always nuke them:D
HCsuomi 1 month ago
hammer
sprengmeister00 1 month ago
damn sounds like a fighter jet flyby
tubefreak90 2 months ago
yes, the time has come: missiles have been privatized.
CtBeke 2 months ago
The spirit that filled Goddard and Oberth, and dare I say it von Braun, still moves men to build rockets
JTLaser1 2 months ago
It looked like the rocket went horizontal?
Did it
kokodogCADT 2 months ago
Did Frank ever iron out the problems with carbon fiber casings ?
normellow 3 months ago
Incredible! I love the sound. So...this is a home-made rocket motor - right? I ask that because I thought that an "O" motor was the biggest CERTIFIED motor you can get. When you build a motor that big, does it need to be certified, inspected, registered, or something?
wainzwhirled 4 months ago
The video is brilliant, but what propellent did you used? Have you used any engine? Thanks
artiom1000 4 months ago
RIP Frank Kosdon. Fly High and Fly Fast Frank!
Mysticlambo 4 months ago
DO WANT.
PyroDesu 5 months ago
Q motors have about 100 lbs of Ammonia Perchlorate and Rubber Cement.
Basically, the same mixture as the NASA Shuttle SRBs. I build them, lol.
They are the most reliable motors, with the exception of Hydrogen Peroxide
Motors, which I am also learning how to build. I already have bought
the Hydrogen Peroxide still, and am machining my first reaction bell.
SHOULD either fly great, or go Kaboom really enthousiastically.
Either way, lots of fun. You have to be ATF certified.
Merlin5by5 6 months ago
@Merlin5by5 Actually, it's AMMONIUM perchlorate, and it's not rubber cement. It is liquid rubber cured with curatives. You do not have to be ATF certified to make/own Ammonium Perchlorate Composite Propellant. To own any APCP over G impulse you must be high power certified by TRA, NAR, or CAR. This propellant was not the same mixture as the SRBs. This was more than likely Kosdon Fast Propellant, which did not include any metals. NASA's SRB propellant consists of AP,binder,curative,and aluminum
TIRrocketry 5 months ago
@TIRrocketry
It's ammonia perchlorate. Ammonium is just indicative that it's been salted.
And if you buy it in MY town, Las Vegas, you buy it in 5 gallon drums as
Rubber Cement. Go ahead, try to order some "Liquid Rubber", and see
how far that gets you. To have to be ATF certified, and / or FIRE MARSHAL
certified to have a rocket meet, launch, or demonstration, and you have to
SHOW that state fire marshal certification, and Demonstrate an adequate
POWDER storage, (magazine) to get either.
Merlin5by5 5 months ago
@Merlin5by5 5 gallons? I have ordered "liquid rubber" several times...It's called R45, and is cured with Papi 94. This is the standard by which most modern rocketeers make their motors. I build them too. I thought you were saying you have to have an ATF license to make motors, which you do not have to have. You also don't have to have any permission of any kind to fly up to G motors. I know about FAA clearance as well, I helped file for the Tripoli Idaho waiver.
TIRrocketry 4 months ago
@Merlin5by5 5 gallons? I have ordered "liquid rubber" several times...It's called R45, and is cured with Papi 94. This is the standard by which most modern rocketeers make their motors. I build them too. I thought you were saying you have to have an ATF license to make motors, which you do not have to have. You also don't have to have any permission of any kind to fly up to G motors. I know about FAA clearance as well, I helped file for the Tripoli Idaho waiver.
TIRrocketry 4 months ago
@TIRrocketry
It's the storage of explosives for any reason, that you have to be ATF certified.
You also have to be registered with the fire marshal for your state in most
states. I kid you not.
Merlin5by5 4 months ago
@Merlin5by5 APCP is NOT an explosive
TIRrocketry 3 months ago
@Merlin5by5 you also do not have to have an ATF permit or cert to buy any chemical that goes into an APCP motor. Basically all you need is Ammonium Perchlorate, aluminum powder, binder(R45...liquid rubber) and your curative (papi 94 or E744)
Braden
TIRrocketry 4 months ago
@TIRrocketry
Hey, I am just practically telling you the rules. I didn't make it up.
I helped host LDRS Meet 26 here in Las Vegas, and we had to demonstrate certs,
and fire fighting equipment, in order to launch at Jean Lake, near Primm.
Did I mention the FAA clearance?
Merlin5by5 5 months ago
What is the most powerfull rocket motor ever made? "Z"? must be solid fuel :D
FranciscoSRO2 6 months ago
@FranciscoSRO2 actually the biggest rocket ever built was in the x size motor range which was the saturn v rocket. shit a z class motor would produce about 25million pounds of thrust !!! 4 times that of the saturn v
haha would love to see a z rocket launch haha prob knock the shit right outta ya
wessendorf15 6 months ago
@FranciscoSRO2 Short version: the space shuttle solid rocket boosters (the most powerful solid rocket motors made) work out to be AE class.
Long version: If you take "A" as 0, "B" as 1, and so on through "X", "Y", "Z"(25), "AA"(26), "AB", and so forth, each type goes from 1.25 * 2^[letter] to 2.5 * 2^[letter] newton-seconds of impulse. The space shuttle SRBs produced about 1.41 GN * s of impulse (back of the envelope math, here), which is just over 2.5 * 2^29 N*s, putting them barely into AE.
argentonath 4 months ago
BALLS 2004...
watertower7 7 months ago
when launch a rocket, i think that you should mount a camera.
siaoranls 7 months ago
hahahahahahah LOL
HAHAHAHAHAH lol
fjortizzen1000 8 months ago
38.6 MJ/kg will get you to orbit... :)
chaosopher23 8 months ago
fly high frank :)
edwinshap1 8 months ago
you need to have a fricking permit for this.
TheSquerl101 9 months ago
I would tape THAT to MY bike
traxxaslover123 10 months ago 14
@traxxaslover123 I love traxxas too, lol (look at your name)
SuperPwndProductions 9 months ago
check out the dirt below the rocket right before take off.................
un*#!king beleavable. you guys are bad ass. checkout my want to be videos. they dont compare. but im getting there
lol
MFIORDA 11 months ago
i only wish i can have the chance to be present at a moment like this
MFIORDA 11 months ago
were can you buy one?!?!?
NumberOneCanadian 1 year ago 6
@NumberOneCanadian haha good one
spcman14 3 months ago
@NumberOneCanadian the U.S military =P
itssuperninja 2 months ago
@NumberOneCanadian well you can't buy a motor like that. They do not make comercial O, P and Q motors(well some Os) You'll have to make the motor. but first oyu need to get level 1, 2 and 3 certs. it will take time
456ner 3 weeks ago
I was there for that launch. It was so awesome.
mbppg1 1 year ago
Wanna make these? Go down to your local hobby shop, Start with a starter kit, work your way up to C6-5, then D-12-7, then after that join a Rocket club, Get permission from the Club president to get a dangerous goods licence, and a pyrotechnician's specialty (rocketry) permit, then start building and learning a lot of geometry and trigonometry. Lots of Math, Lots of hard work= Lots of fun!
JetJockey87 1 year ago
@JetJockey87 Hard work only =Lots of fun when you have something absolutly amazing to stand by from your hard work lol
chickenpoper 1 year ago
*Coming to your local hobby shop*
DigiTan000 1 year ago
Beautiful launch. Thanks for sharing.
SportRocketry 1 year ago
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a nice video show this,,,
where is this dry lake place on this video,,,
i have one MX missile on the truck with 12 wheels and R/C system at the dry lake area near victorville
bestamerica 1 year ago
beautiful
greatliar123 1 year ago
all I can say is wow!
harmsworth1 1 year ago
Very impressive. Nice.
SportRocketry 1 year ago
WOW I like that motor, its flying way up, then NORAD picks up something on Radar then fads, good thing it's not cold war anymore, we might of blamed it on those dam Soviets. haha
nice video
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WestTexasRockets 1 year ago
Oh shit that got horizontal!
SkyDiv3r14 1 year ago
dang......that was beast!!!! i didn't even know they had Q engines........was the engine expensive?must be, i know it
1298Jazzy 1 year ago
this is KASSAN?
MrM4rek 1 year ago
The offical boundry of space is when oxgen is at .06. which is 120,000 ft in the stratosphere. The highest plane flying in air is at 100,000 ft (the SR71 which only average 85,000 feet)... The U plane traveled at 75,000 ft..... Every thing above th sr71 floats
ldanley72 1 year ago
i got a long way to go
penprop01 1 year ago
Shit SAM launch, SAM launch! Drop chaff! Shit, I bet that thing went supersonic!
Stover36 1 year ago
What was the max altitude on this thing?
emj0001 1 year ago
@HaxYoToast11 Slow to everything? We landed men on the moon, and invented a few cool things along the way. Suspension bridge, bifocals, refrigeration, Morse Code, revolver, motorcycle, phonograph... Do I even need to list those from the 20th century? Solar cell, airplane, gas mask, liquid fuel rocket, Richter magnitude scale, digital computer. That leaves us in the 1930s. We are usually first in things, which is why the Metric issue stands out so well.
r0ck3tsm0k3 1 year ago
Q motors FTW!
JTMarlin8 1 year ago
i thought my Ds were srtong
ramicaza 1 year ago
who wounldnt piss themselves if one of those launced off when you were in a plane?
yoyopiemonk 1 year ago
Are you fuckin crazy!? you almos hit chuck norris xD
thaGkillah 1 year ago
Next step: ICBM
TheStJimmy666 1 year ago
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turboboosttouchdown 1 year ago
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mrkil132 1 year ago
ni, can you tell me how can i make such a powerful rocket motor, or if you don't know to ask the man that did that shit?, please
markov4k 2 years ago
Not sure you are ready to be honest. Research, practice, start small. Years or decades is the typical amount of time needed to get into rockets this big. Most of us never do either.
r0ck3tsm0k3 1 year ago
*Drops Jaw* WOW! Great launch! How high did that go!!??
cermet592 2 years ago
This my 3rd time posting this
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The launch BALLS 13 September 11, 2004 - Black Rock, NV: The mighty Q-motor powered vehicle designed and constructed by Dave Triano and Frank Kosdon of ShadowAero for the Mike Hobbs/Randy Helmond team successfully achieved a spectacular 100,000' altitude with full deployment.
RocketMan8911 2 years ago
I wonder why they don't make sonic booms, it must be going supersonic.
ReliableSunPower 2 years ago
think its cuz it reaches supersonic way up there and the sound has already gotten to you so it wont make one at ground level. if you were 2,000 feet up and that thing past you you'd definitely hear one
rcfreak2493 2 years ago
because the sonic boom travels in the same direction as the object creating the sonic boom, so you wont hear anything unless its coming towards you.
Atevra 2 years ago
yeah thats how i meant to say it
rcfreak2493 2 years ago
When the rocket goes mach speed, it basically puts out a giant disk of compressed air that is formed radially from the rocket itself. Ever see the white disk shaped cloud formed by a jet going supersonic? When that "disk" passes you, you hear the sonic boom. That "disk" will never pass you on the ground since it is formed on the horizontal plane and since it breaks the sound barrier quite a ways from the launch pad. Should the rocket turn on its side and pass you, you'd hear a sonic boom.
bchokola 2 years ago
@bchokola More like a cone than a disk though.
r0ck3tsm0k3 2 years ago
@r0ck3tsm0k3 -1 eh? :) Sometimes people cant handle the truth.
r0ck3tsm0k3 2 years ago
@ReliableSunPower They do make sonic booms, but sonic booms propagate in a cone, essentially at a right angle to the direction of travel. In other words, out to the side. Jets drop booms on the land because they are flying across the horizontal. You would have to be above the altitude where it first broke the speed of sound to hear the sonic boom, probably a small mountain would do it for a rocket this fast, or a plane. Also, it would not be that loud because this is a small object.
r0ck3tsm0k3 2 years ago 2
nice rocket =) can you tell me how to made it ???
allmaster83 2 years ago
Did you send a cat into space?
andhemills 2 years ago
Is this shit legal? lol
thudec 2 years ago 14
Yes, but you are required to get special permits and Licensing. We cant just have everyone building cruise missiles in their backyard now can we.
supermanx127 2 years ago 35
list the name of the club and how we can join and how to get into it. also do you have any with on board vid
ljsavmech 2 years ago
Tripoli Rocketry Association.
Google it.
jmar1371 2 years ago
im in NAR, but not Tripoli.
But Tripoli is nice but expensive membership and rocket kits.
iSOisoleucine 2 years ago
NAR is $62 a year and Tripoli is $60.
RocketMan8911 2 years ago
TRA is $70 first year $60 second and $10 for the rest of your membership.
TIRrocketry 1 year ago
@supermanx127 Yeah we can XD HAHA and the ones that dont know what there doing will quickly disapear
derekroolz 1 year ago
@supermanx127 Do you by chance know what was used in the propellent?
oXFalconXo 1 year ago
@supermanx127 that would funny though
bubbaman7575 1 year ago
@supermanx127
how can i get a permision license?
IsraeliTrancer 1 year ago
@supermanx127 that comment just made my day
nolangreen 1 year ago
@supermanx127
If anybody wants to build a missile on its backyard, is not going to be stopped for not having a permit...
levogiro 1 year ago
@supermanx127 That. Would. Be. AMAZING.
PWNLordFTW 1 year ago
@supermanx127 this is more of a ballistic missile, a cruise missile would be a large RC plane :D
AKAtheA 1 year ago
@supermanx127 Why not?! xD that would be another step toward modern civilization along with TVs & computers in every home there will be private defense system...you don't like your neighbor launch one of this at them BHOOM!!
kaziabir1 9 months ago
@supermanx127 WTF why not ;( lololololol
xSuperAssassinx 8 months ago
@supermanx127 i dont think here in england we will ever be able to have such fun as lauching a home built rocket with that power to much health and safty over here
TheRuckerproductions 6 months ago
@supermanx127 why should some people have access to cruise missles while the rest of us dont?
are all men not created equal?
i wouldnt worry about law imposed by unjust rulers
PlebScrubber 5 months ago
@PlebScrubber amen
bsg1206 4 months ago
@supermanx127 its not illegal your just required to have special certifications
saluteshell5 4 months ago
@thudec you need a license for rockets like this,and a FAA clearance over the launch area.
inagod 1 year ago
@inagod wow i forgot all about the comment i made it was 10 months ago.
thudec 1 year ago
@inagod if you own 50 acres , and live no where any airspace can you still launch a rocket that size?
blueeyes2015 1 year ago
@blueeyes2015
No. Regardless, if it flies above 3000' ASL you still need a permit and clearance from your Civill Aviation Safety Authority. If it's flying that high, even if it's not in airspace It can display a radar signature and is unsafe.
JetJockey87 1 year ago
@thudec HOLY CRAP!
NewChicago 8 months ago
Where is this location?
joykillyou 2 years ago
joykillyou- Black Rock Desert, NV
Mysticlambo 2 years ago
Frank Kosdon ROCKS!!
SteveKasian 2 years ago
For those of you who didn't read my last comment here is the info again on this rocket and the launch.
The launch BALLS 13 September 11, 2004 - Black Rock, NV: The mighty Q-motor powered vehicle designed and constructed by Dave Triano and Frank Kosdon of ShadowAero for the Mike Hobbs/Randy Helmond team successfully achieved a spectacular 100,000' altitude with full deployment.
RocketMan8911 2 years ago
So how is ol' Frank Kosdon these days?Does he still have Tripoli's boot print on his azz?Not that this wasn't a spectacular flight though.
anviltoss 2 years ago
They are actually bring back his motors.
RocketMan8911 2 years ago
So I assume his "lifetime ban"(that's the way I heard it) wasn't so "lifetime" after all?
anviltoss 2 years ago
maybe this is liquid fuel
RicardoGarciaPino 2 years ago
Thats the first civilian made rocket to reach space
conkeresyn 2 years ago
nope, its already been done by a model rocket team, it flew 70 miles up
elgranto7 2 years ago
No. A model rocket has never reached space.
'space' is considered past all of the atmospheric layers of earth, which is about 88 miles up.
do more research, kid.
worldslayer 2 years ago
CSXT First Civilian Rocket Launch to Space
elgranto7 2 years ago 2
Incorrect, the official designation of space begins at 100km up, also known as 62 miles.
Do more research, kid.
LINKedup101 2 years ago
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No you fuckin retard, actually its not the official boundary of space. The earth's exosphere extends hundreds of miles above sea level if you want to get technical, prick.The line is 62.1 miles above sea level because any vehicle at this altitude would have to travel faster than orbital velocity in order to derive sufficient aerodynamic lift from the atmosphere to support itself. YOU DO RESEARCH FUCKHEAD!!!!!!!!!!!
HaxYoToast 2 years ago
Well as the poster of this video I would like to clarify once and for all. The Internationaly recognised altitude of space is 100 km or exactly 62.137 mi above sea level , HOWEVER the United States is the sole country in the world that recognises space as exactly 50 mi or 80.467 above sea level. Its called the Karman line and its greatly debated. Please will everyone remain civil, you sound oh so intelligent screaming "YOU DO RESEARCH FUCKHEAD"
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@HaxYoToast shut the fuck ass fucking piss monkey
mrkil132 1 year ago
@HaxYoToast oooo your soo smart
peekabooikillu 1 year ago
@HaxYoToast You sound upset.
steviep1871 1 year ago
@HaxYoToast Because its worth getting this upset over a rocket.....
KD0IDB 1 year ago
I was using Rocksim and decided to mess around, and found a O8000 motor by Cesaroni Technologies inc. i made something it went to 61000 ft. haha it was cool. but ahh this is such an awesome motor!
crzyHiPpQ 2 years ago
this is so damn powerfull.... could you see the blasting just before launch ??!?!?!? its like a controlled explosion inside the rocket. very good. 5*
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every one is a fucking NIGGER THAT WASTES TIME COMMENTING TO ME GROW THE FUCK UP YOU FUCKING NIGGER BITCHES
kickbush666 2 years ago
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jmar1371 2 years ago
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jmar1371 2 years ago
thats a goddam cruise missile
parissiren 2 years ago
um thats going to be hard to go get...
TopGunMan 3 years ago
sometimes they put GPS locaters in them.
3IDLukeK 2 years ago
holy crap!!
GlitchGuy01 3 years ago
WOW! nasa on the way!
grandtheftauto4123 3 years ago
sounds like a jet plane.... holy crap!
RCking93 3 years ago
or its normally called a P motor 20,500 psi and i got 20 of them
kickbush666 3 years ago
Hmm utterly wrong?
r0ck3tsm0k3 3 years ago
Your ignorance is showing.
They don't run at 20K psi, and you don't have any of them, let alone twenty.
Grow up.
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kickbush666 2 years ago
hey i my not in NRA and i can buy a the 50-80k feet dubble Q engine
kickbush666 3 years ago
You have to be 18 to enter in this?
NearSpace01 3 years ago
Yes.
r0ck3tsm0k3 3 years ago
Supersonic lol!
plisko1978 3 years ago
Its called hydrogen and oxygen, nasa use it.
BBCMicrocomputer 3 years ago
were can u even get one like that?
alexg188 3 years ago
Q motor is the biggest motor u can get, u need a level 3 certification in order to get this powerful motor.I think most of this rockets are homemade.
nguyentuan1990 3 years ago
No. You can't buy a Q motor, at least commercially. The largest motor you can buy (with a TRA or NAR L3 cert) is an O motor. This motor is 4 times that size and was "homemade". I'm not sure homemade is the right term, though. Frank Kosdon knows what he is doing... he owns a propulsion company and has a PhD in aerospace, I believe.
doverdx 3 years ago 2
How do you get a permit for these motors?
FreeMessyMARV 3 years ago
first of all you have to be 18 years of age, second you have to be a member of the NRA( nation rocketry association)after becom a member, you then have to build a level 1 rocket to get the level 1 certification,after level 1 you then get level 2,after level 2 is after level 3 . At level 3 you can buy the most powerful rocket engine out there.Just do a little research and u'll know how.
nguyentuan1990 3 years ago
Damn that sounds like a lot of work. Definitely worth it though!
FreeMessyMARV 3 years ago
yeah, if you want to use the motor this powerful and this big. You can buy the G80T( the new one) this engine is very powerful too.
nguyentuan1990 3 years ago
This is an amateur motor. The NRA and Tripoli do not regulate motors over O impulse. So you need to be over 18, have tons of BATF and other regulations met, have proper equipment, and tons of money.
r0ck3tsm0k3 3 years ago
DAMN!
NearSpace01 3 years ago
dude, it is NAR, NRA is national rifle association, IDIOT. you can also get a cirt with TRA.
tuxracer123456 3 years ago
Typo dude, I belong to the NAR... Sorry! Dont confuse me with the people who dont know what they are talking about here, check the name of my youtube account. Then go to my web page called highpowerrocketry.blogspot...
r0ck3tsm0k3 2 years ago
Ok! sorry but there is a lot of people who do not know what the *^&@ they are talking about..
tuxracer123456 2 years ago
Exactly and they are really annoying :)
I still cant get over this Q motor...
r0ck3tsm0k3 2 years ago
I'd like to see onboard video.
DTHRocket 3 years ago
and i thought my C, D and E engines were good =D
gibsies13 3 years ago 6
Btw... The biggest rocket to fly at balls so far as I know would be the OuR rocket - and R Motor. One S motor attempt was done, but it failed, along with at least one other R attempt that also failed.
The CSXT Go fast rocket was a unique launch event and doesnt really fit in under balls.
r0ck3tsm0k3 3 years ago
I forgot what motor the CSXT rocket was. Was that an S?
DTHRocket 3 years ago
Yeah it was an S motor... I dont remember thrust but probably an S-25,000 or so?
r0ck3tsm0k3 3 years ago
My mistake, an S 55,000. Huge rocket with huge thrust. I think it was supersonic in just the first 2 or 3 sec.
r0ck3tsm0k3 3 years ago
Why no Walston radio in it?
r0ck3tsm0k3 3 years ago
i want one.......
driftingdonuts 3 years ago
that thing is a missle
nguyentuan1990 3 years ago
no it isnt
Atevra 3 years ago
It looks like that, though.
dawson01912 3 years ago
I have a fastination for Q motors. Have there been any motors larger than Q at BALLS launch before?
DTHRocket 3 years ago
I believe there has been, although not often successful :(
Atevra 3 years ago
Se "Go Fast" rocket. Used an "S" motor :-O
FelixA9 3 years ago
I vaguely remember an article about this in a rocketry magazine... I think the goal was 110k feet, just barely into space
chrisleav 3 years ago
space is over 300k feet
Atevra 3 years ago
It depends on what you call space.
DTHRocket 3 years ago
I hear it did around 90K Or was at least simmed out to 90K.
r0ck3tsm0k3 3 years ago
this is cool
neelespn 4 years ago 2
That launch was at the BALLS 16 "Desert" i guess in california
HoBoMoBob 4 years ago
BALLS
Wrong it was BALLS 13 September 11, 2004 - Black Rock, NV: The mighty Q-motor powered vehicle designed and constructed by Dave Triano and Frank Kosdon of ShadowAero for the Mike Hobbs/Randy Helmond team successfully achieved a spectacular 100,000' altitude with full deployment.
RocketMan8911 3 years ago
where was that launch?
Twinsfan2009 4 years ago
Does Anyone know if they ever found that thing? I recall that it remained unfound as the launch closed. Too bad...
Fejoalollies 5 years ago
yeah, it's in my backyard.
ssapebut 5 years ago 3