Since when was something that is fard have to be in the quran?? Muslims pray 5 times a day but that exact number or how to pray wont be found in the quran. As muslims we have two sources of scripture the quran and the hadith. As for you challenge.
Al-Fara'id (obligatory duties) and Al-Hudud (legal laws for the punishment of thieves, adulterers)]; and others not entirely clear. So as for those in whose hearts there is a deviation (from the truth) they follow that which is not entirely clear thereof, seeking Al-Fitnah (polytheism and trials), and seeking for its hidden meanings, but none knows its hidden meanings save Allah. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: ....
The scholars are inheritors of teh knwoledge, they explain the Ayah, not meaning verses , it means signs, meaning there is more to it and it leaves you with no choice but to except the truth of the MEssenger peace and blessings be upon him.
3:7 It is He Who has sent down to you (Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) the Book (this Qur'an). In it are Verses that are entirely clear, they are the foundations of the Book [and those are the Verses of Al-Ahkam (commandments), ....
If you study the HISTORY of the prophets ALL OF THEM said the first part of the Shahadah and then had to accept Noah, Moses, jesus, etc. as the messenger of Allah.
The BURDEN OF PROOF is upon YOU to proof the 1.5 Billion muslims wrong and show your credentials and where you studies YOUR VERSION of Islam....
The Quran tells us to believe in the messenger not to testify him as Allah is sufficient witness. There are no 2 laws ie Quran & Sunna only Gods law.No mention of Muhammad's sunnah in Quran tho he was told to follow Abraham Pbut. Prior to laws from Quran there was the Torah.
3:110 Ye are the best of peoples, from mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, AND Believing in Allah..
47:2 But those who believe and work deeds of righteousness, and believe in the (Revelation) sent down to Muhammad.. 47:3
33:40 Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but the Apostle of Allah, and the Seal of the Prophets: and Allah has full knowledge of all things.
Qur'an and Hadith testify to the Shahadah, Muhamma peace and blessings be upon them both.
The challenge presented in this video is a challenge based upon misguidance or lack of understanding that the Revelation sent down by Allaah to the Prophet Muhammad consisted of two parts: the Qur'an and the Sunnah. You issue the challenge but negate the fact that the challenge is answered in the Sunnah. And Allaah commands us to follow the Sunnah in ayats such as 4:65 and 33:36.
The description of how to pray is not in the Qur'an either. This and other 'hows' are in the Sunnah.
funny you mention. How to pray and ablution ACTUALLY are in the Quran, how dare you call yourself a muslim and declare otherwise? shame on you. oh and You obviously have no knowledge of the sunnah, because hadith give no clear account from start to finish how to perform prayer.
/watch?v=9ppRxGodDCk&feature=related
Simple answer is really dont speak when you have no idea what your talking about. Allahs book supercedes any filth you put next to it SALAM
And another thing, it's really not necessary to attack other Muslims (especially how at the end you show a picture of Dawahworks and refer to him as a Muhammadan. Allah explicitly forbids us to treat each other this way. We should all be unified. If other Muslims treat you in this bad way, it does not mean you should do the same to them.
103:3 Except those who believe (in Islamic Monotheism) and do righteous good deeds, and recommend one another to the truth [i.e. order one another to perform all kinds of good deeds (Al-Ma'ruf) which Allah has ordained, and abstain from all kinds of sins and evil deeds (Al-Munkar which Allah has forbidden], and recommend one another to patience (for the sufferings, harms, and injuries which one may encounter in Allah's Cause during preaching His religion of Islamic Monotheism or Jihad).
Although I definitely understand what you are trying to say in this video, and I believed it my self at one point, I will now have to disagree with this. Although all prophets taught "La ilaha illa Allah" to their people, I believe we as muslims must include that Muhammad is a prophet of Allah in the shahadah so as to distinguish our selves from others who believe in Allah (like Jews, Christians and other monotheists in the world) but do not believe in the prophet-hood of Muhammad (saw).
@initialdrift86 We would be setting up an idol beside God if we would inclde Muhammad to the testamony of belief to distinguish ourselves.
[3:64] Say, "O followers of the scripture, let us come to a logical agreement between us and you: that we shall not worship except GOD; that we never set up any idols besides Him, nor set up any human beings as lords beside GOD." If they turn away, say, "Bear witness that we are submitters."
63:1 When the hypocrites come to you (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم), they say: "We bear witness that you are indeed the Messenger of Allah." Allah knows that you are indeed His Messenger, and Allah bears witness that the hypocrites are liars indeed.
6:104 Verily, proofs have come to you from your Lord, so whosoever sees, will do so for (the good of) his ownself, and whosoever blinds himself, will do so to his own harm, and I (Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) am not a watcher over you.
33:40 Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وسلم) is not the father of any of your men, but he is the Messenger of Allah and the last (end) of the Prophets. And Allah is Ever All-Aware of everything.
Music is also Haram. Be better in what you practice and preech or you will be incomplete.
31:6 And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing, etc.) to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah without knowledge, and takes it (the Path of Allah, or the Verses of the Qur'an) by way of mockery. For such there will be a humiliating torment (in the Hell-fire).
i dont understand why any muslim bothers to converse with hadith rejectors as if they are educated about islam. approach them as u would give dawah to the christians and jews.
If your Shahaada that you fabricated AFTER the death of Prophet Muhammad is true then prove it in the Qur'aan. Thats all we are saying; all you have to do is produce just ONE verse that says your Shahaada. I know that you can't, Allah never revealed a Shahaada that violates Tawhiyd.
Nobody here denies this; that is not the argument at hand. What we are saying is that no body including Muhammad is NOT supposed to be in the Shahaada. The Shahaada bears Allah's name ALONE.
@saanetershuffle see if you can follow this formula,1. Allah gives the command 2. Muhammad demonstrates and instructs the believers how to carry out that command 3. the believers hear and obey . e.g. 1.Allah commands to pray 2.Muhammad instruct the believers "pray as you have seen me pray " demonstrating the practical movements,positions and what is to said and when 3. the believers hear and obey.This is the same formula for zakat,ruling,shahadah,etc....
4onetimeonly I see that you gave a tafsir (explaination) but WITHOUT QUR'AANIC EVDENCE. Muslims that upholds the Qur'aan, we are not interested in explainations that results in ASSUMPTIONS so why don't you transcend your tafsir with a Qur'aanic verse, this is how you prove it. Why don't you admit that there is no such verse in the Qur'aan the declares your sunni sectarian Shahaada.
You sunni Muslims are so blind, the Shahaada is right in the Qur'aan
4onetimeonly FIRST of all 4:64 has nothing to do with the Shahaada and SECOND you did not quote that verse correctly because you made it appear that verse is saying to obey the Messenger by his leave. THAT VERSE CLEARLY SAYS BY ALLAH'S LEAVE OR WILL:
Qur'aan 4:64-"We sent not a Messenger, but to be obeyed, in accordance WITH THE WILL OF ALLAH...."
That is what the verse actually says. Again you have failed to produce just ONE verse that declares your sunni sect shahaada
@saanetershuffle" His Leave" was meant to be understood as Allah's Leave given that i started with"Allah says"and 4:64 was given in response to your claim that i gave tafsir without quranic evidence and not as a response to your still bogus and invalid challenge...sorry if you couldn't keep up and put that together for yourself
@saanetershuffle So1.Allah commands to believe in Him and His Messenger 2.Muhammad instructs the believers of the declaration of faith(shahadah) that there is no god except Allah and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah 3.the believers hear and obey thereby take shahadah.Is NOT Muhammad supposed to demonstrate for and instruct the believers i mean this is after all the meaning of "Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah" .So again your challenge is bogus and invalid
correct. according to the Quran the only ones who place Muhammad's name beside Allah's (which is a gross sin and against the Quran)...are the hypocrites.
it is a serious crime to place anyone's name beside Allah's. God is very clear about this in the Quran. when i discovered the Quran back in January of 2007 i was so happy. the Quran is so clear. i was also so shocked to see how those claiming to follow it had deviated so far from it's clear guidance.
i have posted a video response, if you would like to approve it.
@WhereIsTruth i see you silly kuffar are at it again,okay.The sura/ayat that you point to has nothing to do with muhammad's(saw) name being beside Allah Ta'ala's name.it is addressing the attempts of the hypocrites to patronize and placate muhammad(saw) and the believers with their loaded statement of belief as 63:2 clearly points out.Allah Ta'ala actually commands muhammad(saw) to say to mankind emphatically that he(saw) is the messenger of Allah 7:158...so much for the gross sin thing,huh?
There is no doubt that you Sunni Muslims exalt, worship Prophet Muhammad. For example DawahWorks in his video on the problem with the Shahaada mentions your sunni hadiyth that says
"Allah created this universe/world for Muhammad"
this right here is PURE SHIRK and its a concept borrowed from Christianity so that verse that you commented on was definately appropriate for the context of your idol worship of Prophet Muhammad.
@saanetershuffle Your challenge is bogus and invalid being that it sits far beneath the long standing (as in 1400 plus yrs) challenge for you and all the likes of you to prove Allah Ta'ala is not the God and Muhammad(saw) is not the Messenger of Allah 2:23 this is the real question,this is the real challenge
If you Sunni Moslems teach that you need to declare "I bear witness that there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah" to become a Muslim, then the CHALLENGE that I offer to you Sunni Moslems is very much valid. Why don't you quite SHUFFLEN and produce just ONE verse that declares your man-made Shahaada which was fabricated again AFTER the death of Muhammad or just admit there is no Qur'aanic verse.
The people of the Nation of Islam clearly no nothing. They are something alien to Islam. They are not Muslims.
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Since when was something that is fard have to be in the quran?? Muslims pray 5 times a day but that exact number or how to pray wont be found in the quran. As muslims we have two sources of scripture the quran and the hadith. As for you challenge.
quran 33:40
desiboyh 4 months ago
Greetings and Peace, all
Want the true Shahaada? Look no further than AQ 2:131!
AQ 2:131 When his Lord said to him: "Submit," he said: "I submit to the Lord of the worlds."
ServantofTheGuide 4 months ago
"We believe in it; the whole of it (clear and unclear Verses) are from our Lord." And none receive admonition except men of understanding.
hbk711x 6 months ago
Al-Fara'id (obligatory duties) and Al-Hudud (legal laws for the punishment of thieves, adulterers)]; and others not entirely clear. So as for those in whose hearts there is a deviation (from the truth) they follow that which is not entirely clear thereof, seeking Al-Fitnah (polytheism and trials), and seeking for its hidden meanings, but none knows its hidden meanings save Allah. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: ....
hbk711x 6 months ago
The scholars are inheritors of teh knwoledge, they explain the Ayah, not meaning verses , it means signs, meaning there is more to it and it leaves you with no choice but to except the truth of the MEssenger peace and blessings be upon him.
3:7 It is He Who has sent down to you (Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) the Book (this Qur'an). In it are Verses that are entirely clear, they are the foundations of the Book [and those are the Verses of Al-Ahkam (commandments), ....
hbk711x 6 months ago
LOL
Jabreel1978 9 months ago
If you study the HISTORY of the prophets ALL OF THEM said the first part of the Shahadah and then had to accept Noah, Moses, jesus, etc. as the messenger of Allah.
The BURDEN OF PROOF is upon YOU to proof the 1.5 Billion muslims wrong and show your credentials and where you studies YOUR VERSION of Islam....
aaamotorsports 9 months ago
The Quran tells us to believe in the messenger not to testify him as Allah is sufficient witness. There are no 2 laws ie Quran & Sunna only Gods law.No mention of Muhammad's sunnah in Quran tho he was told to follow Abraham Pbut. Prior to laws from Quran there was the Torah.
timetothink01 10 months ago
Simple
3:110 Ye are the best of peoples, from mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, AND Believing in Allah..
47:2 But those who believe and work deeds of righteousness, and believe in the (Revelation) sent down to Muhammad.. 47:3
33:40 Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but the Apostle of Allah, and the Seal of the Prophets: and Allah has full knowledge of all things.
Qur'an and Hadith testify to the Shahadah, Muhamma peace and blessings be upon them both.
hbk711x 11 months ago
The challenge presented in this video is a challenge based upon misguidance or lack of understanding that the Revelation sent down by Allaah to the Prophet Muhammad consisted of two parts: the Qur'an and the Sunnah. You issue the challenge but negate the fact that the challenge is answered in the Sunnah. And Allaah commands us to follow the Sunnah in ayats such as 4:65 and 33:36.
The description of how to pray is not in the Qur'an either. This and other 'hows' are in the Sunnah.
twincitiesdawah 1 year ago
@twincitiesdawah
Your perceptions of 4:65 and 33:36 are misguided.
Peace.
MesMorial 11 months ago
@twincitiesdawah
funny you mention. How to pray and ablution ACTUALLY are in the Quran, how dare you call yourself a muslim and declare otherwise? shame on you. oh and You obviously have no knowledge of the sunnah, because hadith give no clear account from start to finish how to perform prayer.
/watch?v=9ppRxGodDCk&feature=related
Simple answer is really dont speak when you have no idea what your talking about. Allahs book supercedes any filth you put next to it SALAM
AlboDibran 8 months ago
And another thing, it's really not necessary to attack other Muslims (especially how at the end you show a picture of Dawahworks and refer to him as a Muhammadan. Allah explicitly forbids us to treat each other this way. We should all be unified. If other Muslims treat you in this bad way, it does not mean you should do the same to them.
initialdrift86 1 year ago 5
103:3 Except those who believe (in Islamic Monotheism) and do righteous good deeds, and recommend one another to the truth [i.e. order one another to perform all kinds of good deeds (Al-Ma'ruf) which Allah has ordained, and abstain from all kinds of sins and evil deeds (Al-Munkar which Allah has forbidden], and recommend one another to patience (for the sufferings, harms, and injuries which one may encounter in Allah's Cause during preaching His religion of Islamic Monotheism or Jihad).
hbk711x 6 months ago
Although I definitely understand what you are trying to say in this video, and I believed it my self at one point, I will now have to disagree with this. Although all prophets taught "La ilaha illa Allah" to their people, I believe we as muslims must include that Muhammad is a prophet of Allah in the shahadah so as to distinguish our selves from others who believe in Allah (like Jews, Christians and other monotheists in the world) but do not believe in the prophet-hood of Muhammad (saw).
initialdrift86 1 year ago 6
@initialdrift86 Do not add anything to Muhammad's (saw) sunnah, for then it becomes not his sunnah.
AliYourBrother 2 months ago
@AliYourBrother I wasn't aware that I was adding anything to the sunnah. In fact, I thought I was just stating the obvious.
initialdrift86 2 months ago
@initialdrift86 We would be setting up an idol beside God if we would inclde Muhammad to the testamony of belief to distinguish ourselves.
[3:64] Say, "O followers of the scripture, let us come to a logical agreement between us and you: that we shall not worship except GOD; that we never set up any idols besides Him, nor set up any human beings as lords beside GOD." If they turn away, say, "Bear witness that we are submitters."
GongFuWushu 1 month ago
The Sunni Sect cannot meet the CHALLENGE in the video
saanetershuffle 1 year ago
@saanetershuffle
LOLZ did you know your challenge is incorrect first of all because you didn't even transalte the shahadah properly.
hbk711x 11 months ago
@saanetershuffle
63:1 When the hypocrites come to you (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم), they say: "We bear witness that you are indeed the Messenger of Allah." Allah knows that you are indeed His Messenger, and Allah bears witness that the hypocrites are liars indeed.
hbk711x 6 months ago
@saanetershuffle
More then too easy, accept guidance for yourself.
6:104 Verily, proofs have come to you from your Lord, so whosoever sees, will do so for (the good of) his ownself, and whosoever blinds himself, will do so to his own harm, and I (Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) am not a watcher over you.
33:40 Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وسلم) is not the father of any of your men, but he is the Messenger of Allah and the last (end) of the Prophets. And Allah is Ever All-Aware of everything.
hbk711x 6 months ago
Music is also Haram. Be better in what you practice and preech or you will be incomplete.
31:6 And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing, etc.) to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah without knowledge, and takes it (the Path of Allah, or the Verses of the Qur'an) by way of mockery. For such there will be a humiliating torment (in the Hell-fire).
hbk711x 6 months ago
Good video thanks for sharing. Shaluwm Laka.
nubic 1 year ago
nubic
Salaam and thanks for stopping by
saanetershuffle 1 year ago
i dont understand why any muslim bothers to converse with hadith rejectors as if they are educated about islam. approach them as u would give dawah to the christians and jews.
traitor323 1 year ago
4onetimeonly and all Sunni Moslems
If your Shahaada that you fabricated AFTER the death of Prophet Muhammad is true then prove it in the Qur'aan. Thats all we are saying; all you have to do is produce just ONE verse that says your Shahaada. I know that you can't, Allah never revealed a Shahaada that violates Tawhiyd.
saanetershuffle 1 year ago
4onetimeonly you said
"Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah"
Nobody here denies this; that is not the argument at hand. What we are saying is that no body including Muhammad is NOT supposed to be in the Shahaada. The Shahaada bears Allah's name ALONE.
saanetershuffle 1 year ago
@saanetershuffle see if you can follow this formula,1. Allah gives the command 2. Muhammad demonstrates and instructs the believers how to carry out that command 3. the believers hear and obey . e.g. 1.Allah commands to pray 2.Muhammad instruct the believers "pray as you have seen me pray " demonstrating the practical movements,positions and what is to said and when 3. the believers hear and obey.This is the same formula for zakat,ruling,shahadah,etc....
4onetimeonly 1 year ago
4onetimeonly I see that you gave a tafsir (explaination) but WITHOUT QUR'AANIC EVDENCE. Muslims that upholds the Qur'aan, we are not interested in explainations that results in ASSUMPTIONS so why don't you transcend your tafsir with a Qur'aanic verse, this is how you prove it. Why don't you admit that there is no such verse in the Qur'aan the declares your sunni sectarian Shahaada.
You sunni Muslims are so blind, the Shahaada is right in the Qur'aan
saanetershuffle 1 year ago
@saanetershuffle 4:64 Allah says He does not send a Messenger except that this Messenger be obeyed by His Leave
4onetimeonly 1 year ago
4onetimeonly FIRST of all 4:64 has nothing to do with the Shahaada and SECOND you did not quote that verse correctly because you made it appear that verse is saying to obey the Messenger by his leave. THAT VERSE CLEARLY SAYS BY ALLAH'S LEAVE OR WILL:
Qur'aan 4:64-"We sent not a Messenger, but to be obeyed, in accordance WITH THE WILL OF ALLAH...."
That is what the verse actually says. Again you have failed to produce just ONE verse that declares your sunni sect shahaada
saanetershuffle 1 year ago
@saanetershuffle" His Leave" was meant to be understood as Allah's Leave given that i started with"Allah says"and 4:64 was given in response to your claim that i gave tafsir without quranic evidence and not as a response to your still bogus and invalid challenge...sorry if you couldn't keep up and put that together for yourself
4onetimeonly 1 year ago
@saanetershuffle So1.Allah commands to believe in Him and His Messenger 2.Muhammad instructs the believers of the declaration of faith(shahadah) that there is no god except Allah and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah 3.the believers hear and obey thereby take shahadah.Is NOT Muhammad supposed to demonstrate for and instruct the believers i mean this is after all the meaning of "Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah" .So again your challenge is bogus and invalid
4onetimeonly 1 year ago
Lol The Picture At The End Is Priceless. Peace Brother How You Been?
AkeemHaleem 1 year ago
Salaam & Hotep AkeemHaleem
You was off youtube for a while, Its nice to see my Nubian brother
back in action.
saanetershuffle 1 year ago
peace to you,
correct. according to the Quran the only ones who place Muhammad's name beside Allah's (which is a gross sin and against the Quran)...are the hypocrites.
Surah 63:1,2
WhereIsTruth 1 year ago
WhereIsTruth
Alhamdulillah
Its nice to see people who represents Pure Islaam
saanetershuffle 1 year ago
@saanetershuffle
it is a serious crime to place anyone's name beside Allah's. God is very clear about this in the Quran. when i discovered the Quran back in January of 2007 i was so happy. the Quran is so clear. i was also so shocked to see how those claiming to follow it had deviated so far from it's clear guidance.
i have posted a video response, if you would like to approve it.
peace upon you brother
WhereIsTruth 1 year ago
@WhereIsTruth i see you silly kuffar are at it again,okay.The sura/ayat that you point to has nothing to do with muhammad's(saw) name being beside Allah Ta'ala's name.it is addressing the attempts of the hypocrites to patronize and placate muhammad(saw) and the believers with their loaded statement of belief as 63:2 clearly points out.Allah Ta'ala actually commands muhammad(saw) to say to mankind emphatically that he(saw) is the messenger of Allah 7:158...so much for the gross sin thing,huh?
4onetimeonly 1 year ago
4onetimeonly
There is no doubt that you Sunni Muslims exalt, worship Prophet Muhammad. For example DawahWorks in his video on the problem with the Shahaada mentions your sunni hadiyth that says
"Allah created this universe/world for Muhammad"
this right here is PURE SHIRK and its a concept borrowed from Christianity so that verse that you commented on was definately appropriate for the context of your idol worship of Prophet Muhammad.
saanetershuffle 1 year ago
@WhereIsTruth also 48:29 Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah
4onetimeonly 1 year ago
@4onetimeonly
yes, Muhammad was one of God's Messengers. so was Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Noah, just to name a few, peace upon them all.
we are not to put any of these Prophet's names in our Shahadah. was are also not to make distinction among God's Prophets according to Surah 3:84
Allah does not have any partners....including Muhammad.
WhereIsTruth 1 year ago
@saanetershuffle Your challenge is bogus and invalid being that it sits far beneath the long standing (as in 1400 plus yrs) challenge for you and all the likes of you to prove Allah Ta'ala is not the God and Muhammad(saw) is not the Messenger of Allah 2:23 this is the real question,this is the real challenge
4onetimeonly 1 year ago
@4onetimeonly
of course Allah is God, and Muhammad was one of His Messengers.
you are making a complete false accusation to imply we don't believe that.
you have no grounds for you idolization of Muhammad, and placing his name beside Allah's...so you resort to ridiculous false accusations.
WhereIsTruth 1 year ago
4onetimeonly You said:
"Your challenge is bogus and invalid being"
If you Sunni Moslems teach that you need to declare "I bear witness that there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah" to become a Muslim, then the CHALLENGE that I offer to you Sunni Moslems is very much valid. Why don't you quite SHUFFLEN and produce just ONE verse that declares your man-made Shahaada which was fabricated again AFTER the death of Muhammad or just admit there is no Qur'aanic verse.
saanetershuffle 1 year ago