CULT of the PUBLISHING CORPORATION II- Ordained Ministers I

[joyinlife100]

I can say the are brainwashed, my aunt disowned me because Im a christian, and says she is not allow to see or hear anything that might convert her..yeah,so I have a aunt that chooses j.w. over all her family, sad...

[ComicJoeRoberts]

Its not dishonesty. Its seems many younger people are not paying attention to there own teachings.

[PublishingCult]

Nathan Norr even had printed the blatant lie that “ALL baptized JW’s are FULLTIME ministers”. Blatant lie. This series of vids does something no other presentation has done- expose the semantic games JW’s are taught to play with themselves and outsiders. Plainly, genius, the issue is not whether a JW is a minister or not. The issue is how they spin their version of “ordained minister” and how they put such a title to use in the distribution of their publications.

[PublishingCult]

@sbgrox11, The WT brainwashes JW’s to believe their ordination as ministers comes from god himself. The WT publicly denies any special titles given to their ministers and rejects recognition from “Satan’s legal and political system”, yet calls their ministers publishers, pioneers, ministerial servants, PO’s, CO’s, Governing Body, etc, and has fought hush-hush court battles behind JW’s backs in an attempt to gain legal and political status in the eyes of “Satan’s legal and political system”.

[PublishingCult]

@sbgrox11, you really strike me as a man who is about 12 years old emotionally, confused, and not fully awake and aware of what he just experienced living in a religious cult. Good luck to you.

Ad homenem attacks are more douche baggier than what you're wrongly accusing me of. lol

[PublishingCult]

@sbgrox11, You are the first person to not get that the whole "ordained minister" concept in the organization of JW's is a euphemism for "unpaid wt publication peddler", and you are the first person to accuse me of attacking individual people. You are sort of a dull blade not to understand that we are exposing the tactics of the wtbts and how they exploit these people to distribute their publications.

What are you doing, btw? you are sitting on your fat ass wining and bitching. Nice.

[PublishingCult]

You're kind of pathetic and bitter. Anyone can sit on their ass, bitch, complain, whine, and talk dime store philosophy. That's you.

[PublishingCult]

@sbgrox11, Isn't a putz one who speaks before he has heard the entire matter? Hey, that would be you, right? :)

I really wish I could condense down 30 minutes of information into a five minute vid just for really smart guys like yourself. But, alas, I have to set the stage and show the steps mandated for a "minister" of the WTBTS, and the responsibilities that follow pending shunning and banishment.

Or let me put it this way: duh

[PublishingCult]

@sbgrox11, blah bluh bluh, what? lol "Sorry bro" followed by "putz"? Classy. Intelligent. So down to earth and trailer parkish.

How the hell would you know how God works, first of all . . .? Do you know him personally? Ever meet him?

If you viewed and paid attention to the next couple of vids you would see what we are doing here, how this vid sets the stage for the WTBTS's hypocrisy in the ordination of ministers as a front for peddling their crappy mags and publications.

[eternityandforever]

LISTEN to the bible, and STOP listening to the liars on the internet. JW's really follow Jesus. THEY follow Our Dear Lord Jesus Christ in Heaven!They made predictions,then corrected them when new insight was given from Jehovah.The early disciples kept thinking the kingdom was going to come at THEIR time-Matthew 24:3,Acts 1:6. They also had fights between them about who was the greatest among them. Judas turned in Jesus to be killed. Peter denied Jesus 3 times. They were IMPERFECT men.

[PublishingCult]

@eternityandforever, they are imperfect men who claim to be God's only channel of communication with mankind on earth today, and will label "apostate" any JW for openly disagreeing with their "current understanding of scripture", which has not just been wrong, but DEAD WRONG many many times, and they will dictate and sanction the shunning of another human being by all other JW friends and family for incongruity of thought.

They still have not corrected the 607 and 1914 lie.

Nice try.

[PublishingCult]

@eternityandforever, if they were really God's true channel, they would not have ever been wrong. 

[PublishingCult]

@eternityandforever, now if you would like to address a specific point made in this video, you are welcome to.

But you do not get to spam my channel with your mindless canned WTBTS bullshit, you don't get to preach your lies, and you don't get to defend the evil conduct of a group of Satanists.

[mrbarthoss1]

@PublishingCult BAM! I LOVE direct rhetoric like that!

I often wonder what Watchtower apologists like eternalandforever (nice, right?) hope to accomplish by posting in response to videos like yours.

It has been more than a year that I have made this observation, but it seems more accurate now than ever: The rank and file of The WT is thinning with regard content of comments and tetorts (which they are forbidden to do by "The Slave" anyway). Younger and less informed posters all the time.

[eternityandforever]

@PublishingCult I speak bible truth only,DO YOU?This video is just LIES.YOU say we BLINDLY follow WTS,when we ALWAYS research to be ABSOLUTELY sure we are only being taught BIBLE TRUTH! We have ACCURATE KNOWLEDGE that Jesus and disciples preached.YOU come along, twisting everything around. WE avoid those who don't read bible and follow it. That would be unclean-as the Israelites avoided the nations around them!This is standard from GOD!JW's are more milder now w/ kids than 25 yrs.ago.STOP LYING!

[PublishingCult]

@eternityandforever, really? always research to be absolutely sure you being taught bible truth? When you can present scholarly evidence, not WTBTS evidence, that Jerusalem fell in 607 bce, then I will take all these vids down and replace them with an apology to all JW's and the WTBTS.

[flyinggabriel]

@eternityandforever Do you know the truth about the name "Jehovah" . . . that it was invented by a catholic monk in the 13th century? . . . that's the "truth"

[MrQuad4w41]

Dont know what the vid is for. But i am proud to know exactly the Bible. The true God is Jehovah. No doubt about it. Which organisation in the world uses his name?

Where are those real christians. havent seen any of those standin at my door an talk to me.

Jehovas Whitnesses are the only ones who teach the Bible. I havent seen any other Organisation yet.

So if they are not workin right. Its like in Noahs days. We talk to them but they dont listen.

[PublishingCult]

@MrQuad4w41, lol, with all due respect, if you don't know what this vid is for, then why are you arguing points that weren't even made in the video?

Every JW spews the same canned rhetoric you just wrote above which is not, btw, proof that the JW cult has or teaches the truth, but only that they have a brilliant marketing strategy.

google 607 vs 589. You will find with some real research that the WTBTS only teaches THEIR version of their version of the Bible.

[PublishingCult]

@MrQuad4w41, also, you should google "Cognitive Dissonance And Arrogant Certainty", and I truly hope you don't waste another precious year of your life peddling unhealthy spiritual fast food for the cult of the publishing corporation.

[MrQuad4w41]

@PublishingCult Then tell me where are those real christians? which organisation is it? First tell me where the real followers are. What is the name of god? Why is it wrong in your eyes to preach like JWs do? Where is the problem? What did Jesus for last years before he died? What was the mission? Who serves the real god? I got over 13 Different Bibles here, most got common text inside. Some removed the name of god but thats almost all i can see as difference!

[PublishingCult]

@MrQuad4w41, if you want to preach like Jesus did, then go out and preach. Jesus and the other 1st Century Christians carried neither a Bible nor WTBTS publications. They ALL knew Scripture by heart. JW's are not ministers, they are WT publication peddlers.

How many lies does a religion need to teach before you would call it "false religion"?

Google search "New World Translation errors", then go verify independently. You have to stop sucking on WT tit if you want to learn the truth.

[PublishingCult]

Many religions send their members door to door through outreach programs. How often did Jesus say to do this? Where does Jesus recommend 10 reported hours per month in the ministry and a record of how many publications you sell?

I am going to need some verifiable proof that Jehovah is the "real god".



[MrQuad4w41]

@PublishingCult First of all. Not many Religions doo that. In Europe Asia, Russia, And Afrika there is only JWs known for doin that. No one of the other religions has ever been here at my door. Jesus said it and if you dont know that, then it means you dindt read the bible yet. Read book Mathew in the Bible. 10 hours is no must. its a scale which everyone should try to reach. I report different times and sometimes i do not report and i have my reasons for that. least but not last we dont sell

[PublishingCult]

@MrQuad4w41, you're not answering my questions- like a typical intellectually dishonest JW. JW's, because of their conditioning, cannot and will not answer simple direct questions. It's subterfuge, distraction, obfuscation, misdirection, but it's always LYING.

Example: 10 hours? Nowhere in the bible does it indicate how often.

You don't always report your time and placements? You're going against the direction of God's spirit-directed organization are you not? Who are you to disobey?

[MrQuad4w41]

@PublishingCult Jehovah is the god of Israel. The jewish guys dont use his name anymore they say its a sin to do that.

Even Indiana Jones knows his name. Life of Brian is a comedian movie and they use his name aswell.

Most bibles which wer printed till 1870 used the name jehova. Katholic christians in Africa use the name Jehova aswell. When you sing Halelujah you mean praise jehova Jah is the short name of god.

Each god has a name why not the true one. read mathew

[PublishingCult]

@MrQuad4w41, and of course you totally avoided answering the most important question of all:

HOW MANY LIES MUST ANY RELIGION TEACH BEFORE YOU WOULD CALL IT "FALSE RELIGION"?

[MrQuad4w41]

@MrQuad4w41 avoided? Me?

How many trutz must any religion teach before you would call it the true religion.

You didnt gave me the answers i asked you to do. Which Religion in the world is the right one for you. Whats your guess?

Read Mathew 24:14 then Mathew 24: 37-39

Why JWs publish literature. Mathew 24:45-51

At last why JWs go from door to door. That for read Mathew 28:19-20

Read First. And then tell me who is the one who follows Jesus advice

[PublishingCult]

@MrQuad4w41, you're done.

A man possessing the truth doesn't play these games. A man unconsciously covering lies and deceptions refuses to answer simple direct questions, and Jehovah's Witnesses are conditioned to respond just as you do . . . DISHONESTLY.

You know that the WTBTS teaches that if any religion teaches JUST ONE LIE, that religion is false religion. I can name just a few right off the top of my head.

607

1914

That ALL Baptized JW's are full-time ministers

The UN

Malawi vs Mexico

[PublishingCult]

@MrQuad4w41

1975

Blood

"The end of the system of things is coming any day now (been saying that for over 100 years)

That anything the Governing Body says is to be taken as truth, but the truth often changes conveniently and JW's are required to keep in lock-step with the regime and its ever-changing lies, er um, truth.

You have one more chance to answer honestly or you wont be taking up any more space on my comments page.

[MrQuad4w41]

@PublishingCult Lol what kind of conversation is this? I have answered honestly all the time since we started to talk bout that topic.

It was wrong to say end will come 1975. It was a failure. But like i see JWs learn from their failures. Others dont do. Now JWs teach that no one knows when the end of the system will be. In Mathem 24 Jesus tells us the signs. But these signs are just the Beginning of the deep depression that will come over the whole world. I still try to find out the truth.

[PublishingCult]

@MrQuad4w41, ha ha ha the problem with your story is that if a JW in 1974 had have said, "The bible says nobody knows the day nor the hour, and therefore what the governing body is teaching is false", he would have been disfellowshipped and called "evil slave" and "apostate" . . . right?

There are many more examples of this with the blood doctrine, and MANY OTHER PREDICTIONS OF THE END, just to name two.

Charlse Taze Russell said that if a religion teaches just ONE lie, it is a false religion.

[PublishingCult]

@MrQuad4w41, such insistence on strict loyalty to a man-made organization, and the demand that all members accept current teachings even when they can be proven false are just two small characteristics of a cult.

Lie: 607 bce (1914)

Lie: Said the end would come - 1914, 1918, 1925, 1940, 1975, & more recently inferred the end will come in 2034. (Noah preached 120 years, then the flood came. 1914 + 120 yrs = 2034)

For god's true channel, they learn their lesson ridiculously slow.

[essy111]

Compare Jehovahs witnesses and the MoD go to benthejrporters channel to watch

[tudostein]

LOL. I like how you producers of this introduce the same quotes everywhere and then inject what you think it says. Too funny.

[PublishingCult]

@tudostein, would you like to provide the class with a specific example . . . ?

Thank you for watching :)

[sovern009]

Has anyone REALIZED the Legal Ramification Publising Cult may have Exposed In this video? Is It possible they EXSPOSED an inner trade secret (WBTS) dont want out? Has the WBTS been flying under the TAX RADAR in this country maintaining their TAX EXEMPT status with ruthless Mind Control techniques?Think about it.. They have 90% of its employees working for scott FREE at their own expense. I wonder how that upper 2 to10% is living? Humm bet you thats a secret.

[sovern009]

Dude, I wouldnt worry about the people at the bottom of that Organization. Most of them dont realize that the (WTBS) has it own LEGAL dept to whom you may have TUBE-LOCKED! DUDE! Ive Read most of these posting and realized that no ones realized the LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS of this LEGAL EXPO'SE. I do Know this much; (WBTS) loves LAWYERS, that is, employing them.

If anyone wants a FAST-TRACK in (WBTS) BE A LAWYER .! The S.E.C. may be interested in this Info dude!

[De5054]

"When asked a simple straightforward question, it would appear the unity and oneness of mind claimed by 7m JWs falters" "We'll take a look at the reasons why so many JWs answer differently when asked about their status as a minister" Platinum. Just platinum. 1,25 "We don't carry titles" 1,39 "Uhh" 1,47 "Oh of course" 1,57 "No!" 2,03 "Yes" 2,15 "I wouldn't call myself that" 2,21 "Nooo" 2,27 "Yes" 3,25 "Confused?" - *Nods vigorously* :o| So much for Zeph 3;9's "Pure language"

[eternityandforever]

@De5054 OF COURSE YOU can nit-pick all YOU want! All the people were answering the correct answer. WE are ordained ministers, but we don't go around acting all PROUD and self-important like the other churches. Other churches have to study THEIR OWN literature to PASS their test to be an ordained minister, how come YOU don't show them, and make us STAND OUT? We don't usually say, " I'm a minister, and BRAG about it! We avoid undue attention as other religions brag=Matthew 23:1-12 -We are humble!

[PublishingCult]

The WT brainwashes JW’s to believe their ordination as ministers comes from god himself. The WT publicly denies any special titles given to their ministers and rejects recognition from “Satan’s legal and political system”, yet calls their ministers publishers, pioneers, ministerial servants, PO’s, CO’s, Governing Body, etc, and has fought hush-hush court battles behind JW’s backs in an attempt to gain legal and political status in the eyes of “Satan’s legal and political system”.

[PublishingCult]

@eternityandforever, Nathan Norr even had printed the blatant lie that “ALL baptized JW’s are FULLTIME ministers”. Blatant lie. This series of vids does something no other presentation has done- expose the semantic games JW’s are taught to play with themselves and outsiders. Plainly, genius, the issue is not whether a JW is a minister or not. The issue is how they spin their version of “ordained minister” and how they put such a title to use in the distribution of their publications.

[spudgebomb]

I love you.

I love the amount of time and effort spent on your videos.

If I still believed in god, I would pray for his/her blessing to be bestowed upon you forever.

Instead, if I ever run into you, I'll buy you a beer. Or tea. Whatever.

Cheers.

[k2sweet]

Thank you for this!

[DawnofMorning]

what i wanna know is how they keep cranking this crap out? i mean do they have a computer program that takes random paragraphs from older stuff and compiles them into a "new" magazine then spits it out?it all sounds the same to me... i cant wait till they start publishing Dianetics hahahaha evil lord Xenu is the antichrist or something heh heh

[jhweh2007]

simply awsome

[ah0386]

Sad really, that these poor saps are completely ignorant whether or not it's proper to describe themselves as "Ordained ministers".

I had pair of JW's squirming at the gas station earlier this week, trying to explain the numerous changes to the "generation". "We always had the TRUTH! We just understand it a little different now. And we appreciate God's Advancing light!"

WTF?! Now it's called "advancing light"?

OXYMORON OF THE YEAR= "WITNESS TRUTH"

[PurpleHoneyBear]

I assume a kid is being spanked in the bathroom during the meeting. If so, that's EXACTLY what happens. It was an embarrassment to sit there and have to listen to the whacking and wailing. Some people have no shame.

I don't take the ordained minister thing very seriously. The truth is that most people have associations in their mind as to what certain terms mean, and however they choose to name themselves, the point to them is that they are doing their work.

[PublishingCult]

@PurpleHoneyBear, we are simply taking what the WTBTS asserts in their literature and in their public talks and letting the average JW answer to it. The point here is semantics, yes, but also evasiveness, uncertainty, confusion, and lack of harmony.

[sovern009]

@PublishingCult Dude, I wouldnt worry about the people at the bottom of that Organization. Most of them dont realize that the (WTBS) has it own LEGAL dept to whom you may have TUBE-LOCKED! DUDE! Ive Read most of these posting and realized that no ones realized the LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS of this LEGAL EXPO'SE. I do Know this much; (WBTS) loves LAWYERS, that is, employing them.

If anyone wants a FAST-TRACK in (WBTS) BE A LAWYER .! The S.E.C. may be interested in this Info dude!

[PublishingCult]

@VerySimplePerson, but if you deny that you BELIEVE you are an ordained minister, then your qualifications can never be challenged.

[VerySimplePerson]

@PublishingCult Thank you for your response...just one follow up question brother...speaking in a broad sense now..by what authority does a man become an "ordained minister"? Who in this unrighteous and unjust world makes the rules up? Is it not a subjective and biased thing? I personally do not believe in the religious establishments as having the authority to determine anything about anyone. I believe that privledge solely belongs to God.

[PublishingCult]

JW's claim to be God's ONLY TRUE MINISTERS TODAY, possessing and promulgating 'the truth" about God's Word. They claim, as do all minsters, that their ordination comes from meeting the requirements as set forth in the Bible. The question is not "who ordains" but whether or not they are, as they claim, adequately qualified to teach others about an ancient compilation of books written in a time and place and in languages they do not understand. To begin challenging their assumed authority . . .

[PublishingCult]

we must first find out whether or not they actually meet these qualifications. The first test of Jesus footstep followers, by the WTBTSs own standards, is that true worshipers of God worship Him in spirit and TRUTH (John 4:23-24). Asking the simple direct question, are you an ordained minister, and hearing differing replies of avoidance, deceptiveness, subterfuge, and outright denial, does more than suggest a lack of unity, and that JWs are not worshiping their God in spirit and truth.

[VerySimplePerson]

@PublishingCult I appreciate your explanation, it is very reasonable. I think though you have struck at the heart of this debate with the question you unwittingly posed .Who is "adequately qualified to teach others about an ancient compilation of books written in a time and place and in languages they do not understand"? This is a more profoundly universal question. Than the one aimed at the JW's.

[VerySimplePerson]

@PublishingCult.. I mean If you,  and I can just put our predjudices aside for one moment?... You will probably see that the real issue is much much greater than the JW's. The ultimate fundamental issue is the Bible itself? That is the root of the problem! [ May I please ask why you do not permit my comments to displayed on your video? Thanks]

[PublishingCult]

@VerySimplePerson, all comments are pending approval to filter out comments that are not relevant, and the harassment of internet trolls. All of your comments get posted, except for the first one. I had actually approved it then when trying to respond accidentally deleted it.

Why do you say the Bible is the root of the problem?

[VerySimplePerson]

@PublishingCult"Why do you say the Bible is the root of the problem"? Answer 38000 christian religions! C'mon man! The book is literary can of worms! It is not a user friendly book. It is a God damn nightmare to understand . Surely you of all people must know that? I mean the ransom? What the hell is that? Christ died momentarily for your sins ( 3 days and 3 nights) thats nothing! Death should be permanent for it to be a true sacrifice on Gods part. Who gives a gift and then takes it back?

[PublishingCult]

I see your point, and I won't argue. In these videos, however, we are attempting to address topics, issues, and doctrine that pertain specifically to a religious cult that is destructive to families, children, critical thinking, etc.. My personal views about God and the Bible have been set aside for this purpose. We are simply attempting to expose some of more subtle facts hidden from the eyes of those who are outside the organization or who are just beginning to study with JW's.

[VerySimplePerson]

@PublishingCult I understand what your saying. I'd like to thank you for all your polite responses and for giving me your time and attention. I deeply appreciate it. Okay, well if right is on your side brother, and your motives are pure, then I wish you all the best. Once more thank you:)

[PublishingCult]

Again, if you deny that you BELIEVE you are an ordained minister, then your qualifications can never be challenged. Are JWs secret ministers? Is that why 7 million JWs claiming unwavering unity cant answer simply what their own publications state emphatically? The qualifications of anyone professing to be a teacher of the Bible, simply must be challenged.

[PublishingCult]

Hopefully it will cause others such as these young men to ask themselves, are we really ordained ministers? What IS an ordained minister and what are the qualifications for being an ordained minister? If you, for example, saw a program on the Discovery Channel about brain surgery, does that somehow make you competent or qualify you to operate on another human's brain? So, does reading and peddling WT publications make such a person qualified to teach others about the Bible?

[PublishingCult]

@VerySimplePerson, thank you for your comment and perspective. Your question, however, was not a criticism, but simply a question. If you privately, and among other religious members, claim to be an "ordained minister", the question matters in as much as it to pertains to the denial/contradiction/lie a JW will obviously tell when speaking to an outsider. Simple. It also matters because it calls directly into question the qualifications of someone claiming authority to teach the Bible.

[ah0386]

@PublishingCult It's not a LIE, it's theocratic warfare! XD

[luv4u351]

@GinNoKiri I was raised in the so-called truth and am GLAD to be out of a cult! my family r prisoners 2 jw org. for they refuse to b called apostates if they leave the jw org. the WTS owns these DECEIVED people! My family Has shunned me. my Mom has tried too, but its hard 4 her cuz she loves me & i am good 2 her.  that cult is not love! WT twists Scripture 2 shun & love only jws.

[laffy4christ]

typical contradictions....

[brandybeckydoc]

Just a note about JW's and child abuse, I was raised as a JW and let me tell you , it's so much worse than the world knows. I have PTSD, directly related to my JW UPBRINGING>>>>>>

[Asoldier1844]

There is nothing wrong with spanking children, it's in the bible!

[Reaver77x]

@Asoldier1844 "spare the rod discipline the child" ??? You do not need to use acts of violence to get a child to obey their parents....... rather talk calmly and discover the root of their problem as to why they are acting out the way they are. 2 hours of sitting still and meant to pay attention I ask you what child would ever sit still for 2 whole hours without getting up to some sort of mischief...... answer? None. There are other methods of discipline.

[THEBEREANZ]

@ 7:40 PARENTS LOSING IT AND SPANKING CHILDREN IN THE RESTROOM!

AFTER 2 boring hours-TWAS PRETTY STANDARD AT OUR KH!

[WATCHTOWERKILLS]

bloody brilliant video, was this you speaking to the people on the street?

[PrintedTruth]

I've done some study on the spanking issue and the watchtower definitly encourages parents to hit their children. In fact in one hall a young brother was told by an elder that he didn't have control over his baby(10 months) and should start spanking him if the father wanted to be a servant.

[amathenia123]

This video is well produced but after watching it I'm not sure what the point of it was. You approach JW's and all that you can ask is some technical question on whether or not they consider themselves ministers? What's the point? Also the end with a crying child being spanked has no relationship to the video and only serves to make tenuous implication that Jehovah's Witnesses are child abusers.

[PublishingCult]

The question posed was not simply a technical question, but one that goes straight to the heart of what Jehovah's Witnesses are actually doing when out in their "ministry". Even the "by the book" answers are evasive and misleading giving testimony to the level of intellectual dishonestly automatically practiced by those who claim to have and promulgate "truth".

These videos, unfortunately, can only be offered in segments of 10 minutes. This video is laying the ground work for more . . .

[PublishingCult]

important information to follow in the proceeding presentations.

Perhaps others may add to what I have written here in order to help explain. Please be patient for we are unfolding a very complex narrative that should give unique insight into the JW religion.

Thanks for watching.

[PublishingCult]

"the end with a crying child being spanked has no relationship to the video and only serves to make tenuous implication that Jehovah's Witnesses are child abusers."

Anyone who was born and raised in the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses and escaped will tell you there is nothing tenuous about the implication.

[PublishingCult]

Emotional, mental, spiritual, sexual, and physical abuse abounds in the organization of JW's. It's not uncommon to be at a JW meeting and hear a mere toddler being spanked in the bathroom for not sitting still and listening to "the spiritual food" being presented by the Watchtower.

[CODEBAR111]

OMG this is brilliant, hands down you make THE best videos in relation to this topic.

[Ribcagehacksaw]

This is absolutely brilliant. Great editing, class act all around. 5* and a new sub!

[akashafuhr]

very nice!

[JAKEV25]

The facts are that all Baptized JW are ministers and are expected to obey Jesus' commandment to go throughout the entire world and make disciples for him.

And of course we use literature as bible aids...most churches do also.

[PublishingCult]

Bible aids? Interesting.

Your response is appreciated and the points you make will be addressed in an upcoming video.

[JAKEV25]

@PublishingCult Are you another cry baby apostate?

[PublishingCult]

I'll simply invite you to review The Awake! 2000 June 22 p.4 article "The Manipulation of Information" which discusses 1. Lies 2. Generalizations 3. Name calling (Ad Hominem Attacks) 4. Playing on emotions 5. Slogans and symbols

and ask that you pay attention to what it says regarding name calling:

[PublishingCult]

"Some people insult those who disagree with them by questioning character or motives instead of focusing on the facts. Name-calling slaps a negative, easy-to-remember label onto a person, a group, or an idea. The name-caller hopes that the label will stick. If people reject the person or the idea on the basis of the negative label instead of weighing the evidence for themselves, the name-callers strategy has worked."

Please be respectful and civil.

[JAKEV25]

Maybe you should look up an article on lying......I haven't called you any names.

[PublishingCult]

what was "cry baby apostate"?

As one of Jehovah's Witnesses, you seem to lend support to the argument that JW's are practicers of intellectual dishonesty and rhetorical fallacy.

[JAKEV25]

i ASKED YOU IF YOU WERE.....I didn't call you that. READ.

Did I hit a sore spot?

Enough of this...Let's get down to the nitty gritty......

Instead of tearing down the WBTS.....(I have really heard it ALL...you can bring nothing new to the table).....Let's talk about your new found faith....

Tell me about it.

[PublishingCult]

Sure . . . just as soon as you explain how JW's do not hold titles.

The nitty gritty, as you put it, isn't my faith. As I said, the issues you initially brought up will be discussed in the next videos.

[PublishingCult]

"i ASKED YOU IF YOU WERE.....I didn't call you that."

You sound like the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses when they say, "We only said Armageddon was POSSIBLY coming in 1975. You took it the wrong way."

Intellectual dishonesty.

[JAKEV25]

No....I think you mean.more like trinitarians when you show them what the bible states and their defense is the hypostatic union...

"No no that was Jesus the man"...."NO no that was Jesus the god"

We are all still awaiting to hear what you have found that is so much better than the WBTS........

Who knows maybe you'll find some followers and you can start your own organization.

[TALIAFERRO69]

This guy is a 47 year old Watchtower loser probly on disability or welfare like the vast majority are! Go get your GED you uneducated Watchtoiwer moron! Higher education is a sin so contiue to be a dumb Watchtower clone!

[JAKEV25]

Well..this was yet another worthless video....What the producer does not understand is this...The JW's do not hold titles..they are not paid clergy like in christendom...So when someone that is not a JW asks-- Are you ordained ministers?.....They say NO because they think that you may feel they are like "Ordained Priests" and they don't want you to go away thinking that.

Simple explanation...

[PublishingCult]

Publisher, Ordained Minister, Pioneer, Ministerial Servant, Elder, Presiding Overseer, Circuit Overseer, District Overseer, Zone Overseer, Annointed, Governing Body . . . aren't nicknames.

You're right about one thing. When a JW answers the question, he/she's actually thinking, "yes, I'm an ordained minister, but not like those other guys".

Your reply is standard WT surface canned rebuttal stuff, subterfuge, distraction . . . which will be addressed in the next video. Thanks for watching.

[JAKEV25]

@PublishingCult Jesus' disciples were not theologians.......

[TALIAFERRO69]

Which makes them doubly STUPID because atleast the other fools are getting paid for there work. They got you fools using your own gas and vehicle and money ahahhahahhahah doesn't get any dumber than that....Enjoy Watchtower Slave/Fool!

[TALIAFERRO69]

So you lie to them! enough said! That's called theocratic warefare and you Jdubs will lie to hide the truth from those who are not on the inside! Enjoy Watchtower slave!

[PublishingCult]

Yes, JW's are conditioned to be downright insulting intellectually sometimes. JAKEV25's supposition is to demand that if the JW's don't have the truth then who does? That isn't the issue. If JAKE would just step back and think for a minute about the lies and false doctrines of the WTBTS and let it sink in, it would be enough for the time being just to know and accept that the WTBTS really IS NOT promulgating the truth, but an ever changing clever variation of it.

[TALIAFERRO69]

The guy is a troll and to argue with him about any subject is pointless. Your video speaks volumes so for this guy to insult you and the video shows how brainwashed Jakev25 is.. I never knew how blind they were until i woke up myself and tried to show them the facts. They would not even look that's how brainwashed they are.....they hid like little children. I thought they wanted truth and how surprised i was they don't. Best video ever.......keep up the good work.

[PublishingCult]

Thanks for watching. Not sure what your question regarding the US Army and killing kids pertains to . . .

[TheMenenkoFiles]

Seems like not all J-Dubs are on the same page.

[canpeace40]

once you are out..."normal" jw things, like the way they baptize is very cultish. This video is nicely done!

[robfs52]

Good video. You could actually do the same thing with 100 different questions. The fabled unity of JWs is built on the fact that most rank and file members - and many elders and MS - have no in-depth understanding of WTS doctrine and theology.

As a JW elder at one time, I was well aware that most JWs are seriously ignorant of what they purport to believe.

[um4real]

This is great!

[dhamamy]

They fell asleep during the Baptismal talk...LOL

[21crosscheck21]

Excellent video.... so much for unity in what they believe

[amathenia123]

No. It simply showed how Jehovah's Witnesses are not all fully educated about their own beliefs. The older ones who seemed like elders had by the book explanation and positively asserted they were ordained ministers. The younger ones had some confusion and were not able to explain - confusing the interviewer's question with one about having religious titles.

[PublishingCult]

Yes, the confusion about religious titles does exist. JW's claim, as you saw, not to carry any titles.

A new segment will be posted soon to explain the confusion and the assertion that all JW's are "ordained ministers". We appreciate you watching and commenting.

[PublishingCult]

"Jehovah's Witnesses are not all fully educated about their own beliefs."

Precisely the point. Has the WTBTS ordained a person as "one who is adequately qualified to teach" others about the Bible when they are hardly equipped to do so? Or, are these professed "ordained ministers" simply peddlers of Watchtower Society publications and have no real qualifications for the work they claim to actually be doing?

[inspirediam]

This is a very good video for those whom are not within this organization. However, those within this organization would not like how this is presented, even though it is all true...

[MentallyDeadKev]

nicely done