Clearly social justice is an evocative phrase. It is a concept often misunderstood and needlessly feared in the US due to the mistaken association of 'collectivity' with 'communism' or even 'fascism'. This is a total fallacy. In actual fact social justice envisions a future not only with greater equality but also less crime, broader citizenship, reduced societal exclusion/disengagement, heightened democracy and more extensive public services. If it matters, I'm working class, white, male from UK
Tragically, what Dr. King did not know (COULD not have known ) was that the future republican candidate, Richard Nixon would later come to undertake covert action(s) designed to intentionally & needlessly escalate the bombing (thus significantly prolonging the war) with an eye to winning his candidacy for the presidency.He was able to accomplish these acts via his informal envoy, Henry Kissinger. U MUST all view the.Hitchens documentary about Henry Kissinger here on Youtube for details on this
i watched a long enough to hear a point about the exploitation of the memory of MLK in marketing his image in merchandise stores like kmart would sell... i was writing a racist comment but i heard that it and it was well put though i thought i was already understood by intellectuals that big business will sell anything use anything for the generation of profit., they would sell their own mothers and daughters if it was profitable. maybe he did get to that point, but ah im racist or something
Be sure you get to the end - Jesse Jackson to inmates of Cook County Jail: Will you help me close down this jail?
Inmates: (shouting) Yeah!
Jesse Jackson: Here's what you do - Don't come back no more!
My point is, we have the power to stop recidivism.
There is prison industrial complex. But there is also the responsibility to make choices...I cannot avoid being responsible. I cannot avoid being responsible.
HAHAHAHAHAHA These guys should be ashamed of themselves. Especially Jessie Jackson who knew Martin Luther King, Jr. personally. I have yet to see any writings or hear any speeches in which MLK Jr. looked for or asked for SOCIAL JUSTICE.............................EQUALITY was what he was after.
@Beesh03 then you don't know anything about Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and his Poor Peoples' March and his strong stance against war (see A Call to Conscience). He was killed during a visit supporting striking city sanitary workers.
The only reference the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. ever made about social justice was to talk about "it's evil" as he put it. Dr. King spoke of how "social justice" is not the same as "equal justice." Dr. King fought for EQUAL JUSTICE, not social justice. Social Justice goes back to the birth of Communism. Lenin, the founder of communism and first leader fo the Soviet Union. Now, they are those today who want to mislead Americans into thinking social justice is the same as equal justice.
@guyfroml Wow. Well i would ask where you got your 'facts', but since you practically quoted Glenn Beck there, theres probably no need. And yes, Martin Luther King never said the words social justice? So? Does that mean he didnt believe in it, just because he called it another name? Here is a very good quote from MLK-"A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual doom."
@shifty1367 You are correct...MLK Jr. did NOT believe in "social justice", he believed in "individual justice." And I'm not just quoting myself, I'm quoting his niece Dr. Althea King. And as she further explained, his advocating for improved social programs does NOT mean to dimish the individual right and replace it with "collective" rights - of which there is no such thing. This nation is solidly founded on the individual right, not collective or social right, endowed by his/her creator.
@guyfroml How can you state that this nation is solidly founded on individual rights when this white nation landed on and murdered individuals and groups of native Americans, enslaved murdered and raped individuals and groups of Africans. I wouldn't discuss ML K or any other A.A. luminary for social justice with any European. focus on telling your people about eugenics practiced by your people daily, on poor colored nations of the world.
@MyQuarterback I believe you just answered your own question. If the nation's founders had been concerned with rights other than their own individual ones...they might have thought about what was good for the collective society which was already in place.
“I think with all of these challenges being met and with all of the work, and determination going on, we will be able to go this additional distance and achieve the ideal, the goal of the new age, the age of social justice.”--MLK
@guyfroml Now i have one simple question, what do u think MLK meant by programmes of social uplift? I dont know about you, but i dont get tax cuts for the rich from that. But dont worry, im sure Beck can tell you otherwise, and put you back to sleep.
@shifty1367 who other than Beck has "any" degree of credibility? I was taught by my teachers (some of them even liberals) that "credibility" is established by clearly showing your sources - which Beck CONSTANTLY does. I wish the same could be said for some of these progressive intellectuals - a contradiction in terms.
@guyfroml d again, look at what you have just written, you have stated no facts, but most importantly, you have not answered the question that i posed to you, being what did MLK mean when he said 'programmes of social uplift'? But, assuming a bit about you, i doubt that you can even see that quote. It probably brushes off you like the countless other facts showing that when you give all power to corporations, it does nothing but harm the people.
@guyfroml beck has alot of credibility amoung drug addicts and alcoholics. only an idiot would listen to a moron with a high school degree and is recovering from his addictions...
Any one who chooses to critices Martin King, Malcolm X, Marcus garvey, ans other such great, true and genuine leaders, should first ask themselves. would i have the guts, courage, boldness, braveness, etc to do what they did. ultimately give their lives.
I implore you to spend 10 minutes watching my video called, "Social Justice - Behind the Propaganda". You may not agree with me on many points, but I spent a lot of time researching what it is.
If you believe in social justice, you obviously don't understand what "Social Justice" stands for & is the begining of!!! You need to ask my mother(My mother was born in Germany in 1928) She can tell you first hand what "Social Justice" is as thats what Hitler gave to the Germans. You need to wake up & read The "Real" history of Social Justice. God bless you & I hope you will realize the bad things that this can bring. "Those who don't learn history, Are doomed to repeat it!"
Social Justice is the ideology which claims that people that have, haven't earned and people that don't have, deserve that which others have. Essecially, the idea of social justice makes the claim that I (the person who believes in social justice) has the right to decide who deserves to have and who deserves not to have. I see that there is inequalities in society and I should have the right to play "Robin Hood" with other people's personal property.
As far as I know, Martin never called himself God, Jesus, a saint or perfect. He was an ordinary person like anyone else who found the inner strength to stand up for his convictions. And he had it particularly rough the last 13 years of his life.
I'm not excusing his mistakes but I feel I understand him as a human being. People who make a saint out of him aren't doing him any favors. Look at what happened when we turned an ordinary man named Jesus into God Incarnate. :-/
I'm not saying Martin Luther King didn't plagiarise, but I'm tired of people completely discrediting him as a person simply because of his imperfections rather than seeing the good with the bad.
Is it really fair to only focus on the bad when referring to MLK? I mean, seriously - where would this country and world be today without his courageous contributions and sacrifices?
It isn't fair to only focus on the bad, you are right. But the bad was dishonestly obscured for a long long time, and it took a great deal of courage for people to reveal who King truly was.
I think the bad was dishonestly obscured for a long time in order to avoid having a negative impact on the Civil Rights Movement during Martin's lifetime and then Martin's legacy after he died.
However, I do think it's appropriate for people to know the whole story. It gives me a sense of hope that people can strive towards great change despite their personal flaws.
I wouldn't be surprised if people like Jesus and Mother Teresa had scandalous secrets under wraps.
I mean, Jesus was offering an otherworldly, mystical cult, based around himself- while the Romans were offering law, engineering, literature, institutions of state etc- real progress to humanity.
Funny you should state that in the form of a question, because somehow just looking at Jesse Jackson moving his lips can bring that out in people. He swings from brilliant to idiot in a heartbeat.
Because he too is human. Just like me. I can say some really dumb things when the spirit is upon me.
But I know my blood boils when all that is corrupt is referred to as "White America" if these guys are so wise couldn't they come up with a less offensive term?
So...Kennedy was whoremaster, Nixon was a crook and cheat, Reagan spied on his friends, George W. was a drunken incompetent...the list goes on and on...Its called human nature!
@Foxyarse2 "human nature"? What a weak, easy cop-out to make. I suppose you believe without fear of God or the law we'd all murder friends and/or strangers? Rape anyone we can, even our children? Steal indiscriminately? Sad sad sad. You poor SINNER. What a horrible limiting view of our spices you have. You live in a mind trap. You have a viral meme infection lol. IMO Human nature is extremely mailable; families and broader society raise ppl to have certain values and attitudes.
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Clearly social justice is an evocative phrase. It is a concept often misunderstood and needlessly feared in the US due to the mistaken association of 'collectivity' with 'communism' or even 'fascism'. This is a total fallacy. In actual fact social justice envisions a future not only with greater equality but also less crime, broader citizenship, reduced societal exclusion/disengagement, heightened democracy and more extensive public services. If it matters, I'm working class, white, male from UK
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Tragically, what Dr. King did not know (COULD not have known ) was that the future republican candidate, Richard Nixon would later come to undertake covert action(s) designed to intentionally & needlessly escalate the bombing (thus significantly prolonging the war) with an eye to winning his candidacy for the presidency.He was able to accomplish these acts via his informal envoy, Henry Kissinger. U MUST all view the.Hitchens documentary about Henry Kissinger here on Youtube for details on this
shieldsff 11 months ago
i watched a long enough to hear a point about the exploitation of the memory of MLK in marketing his image in merchandise stores like kmart would sell... i was writing a racist comment but i heard that it and it was well put though i thought i was already understood by intellectuals that big business will sell anything use anything for the generation of profit., they would sell their own mothers and daughters if it was profitable. maybe he did get to that point, but ah im racist or something
standalonesolid 11 months ago
Be sure you get to the end - Jesse Jackson to inmates of Cook County Jail: Will you help me close down this jail?
Inmates: (shouting) Yeah!
Jesse Jackson: Here's what you do - Don't come back no more!
My point is, we have the power to stop recidivism.
There is prison industrial complex. But there is also the responsibility to make choices...I cannot avoid being responsible. I cannot avoid being responsible.
I have the right to fight for the right.
I must sharpen my tools to win the fight
petalumafirst 1 year ago
HAHAHAHAHAHA These guys should be ashamed of themselves. Especially Jessie Jackson who knew Martin Luther King, Jr. personally. I have yet to see any writings or hear any speeches in which MLK Jr. looked for or asked for SOCIAL JUSTICE.............................EQUALITY was what he was after.
Beesh03 1 year ago
@Beesh03 then you don't know anything about Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and his Poor Peoples' March and his strong stance against war (see A Call to Conscience). He was killed during a visit supporting striking city sanitary workers.
isteemaen 5 months ago
Racist Bastards. MLK fought for equality but this fuck refers to multiracial as every ethnic group but white. Hateful son of a bitch.
dikwiked 1 year ago
yep... all these people including the satan and the joker agree with social justice ;)
nnlamb25 1 year ago
Why do black people not want to work!?!?!
comotose762 1 year ago
@comotose762 Slaves from 1619 to 1865 could n,t ask white people that question could they !
MyQuarterback 1 year ago
The only reference the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. ever made about social justice was to talk about "it's evil" as he put it. Dr. King spoke of how "social justice" is not the same as "equal justice." Dr. King fought for EQUAL JUSTICE, not social justice. Social Justice goes back to the birth of Communism. Lenin, the founder of communism and first leader fo the Soviet Union. Now, they are those today who want to mislead Americans into thinking social justice is the same as equal justice.
guyfroml 1 year ago
@guyfroml Wow. Well i would ask where you got your 'facts', but since you practically quoted Glenn Beck there, theres probably no need. And yes, Martin Luther King never said the words social justice? So? Does that mean he didnt believe in it, just because he called it another name? Here is a very good quote from MLK-"A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual doom."
shifty1367 1 year ago
@shifty1367 You are correct...MLK Jr. did NOT believe in "social justice", he believed in "individual justice." And I'm not just quoting myself, I'm quoting his niece Dr. Althea King. And as she further explained, his advocating for improved social programs does NOT mean to dimish the individual right and replace it with "collective" rights - of which there is no such thing. This nation is solidly founded on the individual right, not collective or social right, endowed by his/her creator.
guyfroml 1 year ago
@guyfroml How can you state that this nation is solidly founded on individual rights when this white nation landed on and murdered individuals and groups of native Americans, enslaved murdered and raped individuals and groups of Africans. I wouldn't discuss ML K or any other A.A. luminary for social justice with any European. focus on telling your people about eugenics practiced by your people daily, on poor colored nations of the world.
MyQuarterback 1 year ago
@MyQuarterback I believe you just answered your own question. If the nation's founders had been concerned with rights other than their own individual ones...they might have thought about what was good for the collective society which was already in place.
farriberri 1 year ago
@guyfroml
“I think with all of these challenges being met and with all of the work, and determination going on, we will be able to go this additional distance and achieve the ideal, the goal of the new age, the age of social justice.”--MLK
Yeah so you're wrong.
Whatchagonado 1 year ago
@guyfroml Now i have one simple question, what do u think MLK meant by programmes of social uplift? I dont know about you, but i dont get tax cuts for the rich from that. But dont worry, im sure Beck can tell you otherwise, and put you back to sleep.
shifty1367 1 year ago
@shifty1367 who other than Beck has "any" degree of credibility? I was taught by my teachers (some of them even liberals) that "credibility" is established by clearly showing your sources - which Beck CONSTANTLY does. I wish the same could be said for some of these progressive intellectuals - a contradiction in terms.
guyfroml 1 year ago
@guyfroml d again, look at what you have just written, you have stated no facts, but most importantly, you have not answered the question that i posed to you, being what did MLK mean when he said 'programmes of social uplift'? But, assuming a bit about you, i doubt that you can even see that quote. It probably brushes off you like the countless other facts showing that when you give all power to corporations, it does nothing but harm the people.
shifty1367 1 year ago
@guyfroml beck has alot of credibility amoung drug addicts and alcoholics. only an idiot would listen to a moron with a high school degree and is recovering from his addictions...
kennny732 1 year ago
Any one who chooses to critices Martin King, Malcolm X, Marcus garvey, ans other such great, true and genuine leaders, should first ask themselves. would i have the guts, courage, boldness, braveness, etc to do what they did. ultimately give their lives.
TheLookAtSeries 1 year ago
I implore you to spend 10 minutes watching my video called, "Social Justice - Behind the Propaganda". You may not agree with me on many points, but I spent a lot of time researching what it is.
watch?v=DRZoIXX3cpk
FreedomInAmerica 1 year ago
If you believe in social justice, you obviously don't understand what "Social Justice" stands for & is the begining of!!! You need to ask my mother(My mother was born in Germany in 1928) She can tell you first hand what "Social Justice" is as thats what Hitler gave to the Germans. You need to wake up & read The "Real" history of Social Justice. God bless you & I hope you will realize the bad things that this can bring. "Those who don't learn history, Are doomed to repeat it!"
tkd4zgqg 1 year ago
@tkd4zgqg
Social Justice is the ideology which claims that people that have, haven't earned and people that don't have, deserve that which others have. Essecially, the idea of social justice makes the claim that I (the person who believes in social justice) has the right to decide who deserves to have and who deserves not to have. I see that there is inequalities in society and I should have the right to play "Robin Hood" with other people's personal property.
collins1188 1 year ago
@tkd4zgqg stop letting glenn beck eat your brain cells
hchukuka 1 year ago
As far as I know, Martin never called himself God, Jesus, a saint or perfect. He was an ordinary person like anyone else who found the inner strength to stand up for his convictions. And he had it particularly rough the last 13 years of his life.
I'm not excusing his mistakes but I feel I understand him as a human being. People who make a saint out of him aren't doing him any favors. Look at what happened when we turned an ordinary man named Jesus into God Incarnate. :-/
audiosane 2 years ago
Didn't Martin Luther King plagiarise his doctoral thesis?
What a crook!
Tadeusz598 2 years ago
Tadeusz598:
I'm not saying Martin Luther King didn't plagiarise, but I'm tired of people completely discrediting him as a person simply because of his imperfections rather than seeing the good with the bad.
audiosane 2 years ago
Thay gave the dishonest, whoring cheat a national public holiday. What are you talking about!
Tadeusz598 2 years ago
Tadeusz598:
Is it really fair to only focus on the bad when referring to MLK? I mean, seriously - where would this country and world be today without his courageous contributions and sacrifices?
audiosane 2 years ago 7
It isn't fair to only focus on the bad, you are right. But the bad was dishonestly obscured for a long long time, and it took a great deal of courage for people to reveal who King truly was.
Tadeusz598 2 years ago
Tadeusz598:
I think the bad was dishonestly obscured for a long time in order to avoid having a negative impact on the Civil Rights Movement during Martin's lifetime and then Martin's legacy after he died.
However, I do think it's appropriate for people to know the whole story. It gives me a sense of hope that people can strive towards great change despite their personal flaws.
I wouldn't be surprised if people like Jesus and Mother Teresa had scandalous secrets under wraps.
audiosane 2 years ago
TWe should always be suspicious about personality cults.
I don't doubt for a second that Mother Theresa was an incredible pain in the a.
As for Jesus- I'm on the Roman side myself.
All the best,
TD
Tadeusz598 2 years ago
Tadeusz598:
I agree. Groups that focus too much on any one person should be watched closely to determine whether or not inappropriate behavior is going on.
You're on the Roman side yourself? What do you mean by that?
audiosane 2 years ago
I mean, Jesus was offering an otherworldly, mystical cult, based around himself- while the Romans were offering law, engineering, literature, institutions of state etc- real progress to humanity.
Tadeusz598 2 years ago 3
Tadeusz598:
Oh okay. What kinds of things was Jesus teaching people?
audiosane 2 years ago
Mostly otherworldly nonsense about heaven and hell.
Tadeusz598 2 years ago
@audiosane How many do you have?
TheLookAtSeries 1 year ago
Funny you should state that in the form of a question, because somehow just looking at Jesse Jackson moving his lips can bring that out in people. He swings from brilliant to idiot in a heartbeat.
Because he too is human. Just like me. I can say some really dumb things when the spirit is upon me.
But I know my blood boils when all that is corrupt is referred to as "White America" if these guys are so wise couldn't they come up with a less offensive term?
RondoRaven 2 years ago
So...Kennedy was whoremaster, Nixon was a crook and cheat, Reagan spied on his friends, George W. was a drunken incompetent...the list goes on and on...Its called human nature!
Foxyarse2 2 years ago 5
@Foxyarse2 "human nature"? What a weak, easy cop-out to make. I suppose you believe without fear of God or the law we'd all murder friends and/or strangers? Rape anyone we can, even our children? Steal indiscriminately? Sad sad sad. You poor SINNER. What a horrible limiting view of our spices you have. You live in a mind trap. You have a viral meme infection lol. IMO Human nature is extremely mailable; families and broader society raise ppl to have certain values and attitudes.
Tuathalful 1 year ago
@Tuathalful You talk absolute and total shite...keep taking the haldol
Foxyarse2 1 year ago
@Foxyarse2 What is Haldol? Somehow I think you know what that is? lmao!
trufflesrheaven 7 months ago