Debate: Is Biblical Christianity a religion of peace? part 2

[hishamchicko]

he says that he is being with two muslims,because he loves everyone"Then what about those two muslims who being with you? Even in Al Quran says to show the path way who goes in wrong way,because of love to take them to path way not to be punished by doing wrong way.

"Enemy" mean not the other religions.He must see the dictionary properly that what is the meaning of that......

[hishamchicko]

Mr.Daniel did not understand what Mr.Nadir said.That's why he is repeating the same thing that he will love enemy.If someone trying to kill Daniel ,he may have died before he say I LOVE YOU.Because that person want to kill him.Is there anyone has magic like Daniel has to stop a person who gonna kill.

[mohdjamlimustafa]

You always take muslim terrorists to prove Islamic hatred for others.These terrorists have cause to fight for.What about the KKK they hate others for no reason except for colour,creed and religion.

If Jesus is the saviour of mankind who died for the sins of mankind what purpose is the second coming.

You say Jesus will punish those who do not accept Christ in the second coming.

Lucky are those who died before the second coming.They escape punishment.

[mohdjamlimustafa]

You always take muslim terrorists to prove Islamic hatred for others.These terrorists have cause to fight for.What about the KKK they hate others for no reason except for colour,creed and religion.

If Jesus is the saviour of mankind who died for the sins of mankind what purpose is the second coming

[mohdjamlimustafa]

You always take muslim terrorists to prove Islamic hatred for others.These terrorists have cause to fight for.What about the KKK they hate others for no reason except for colour,creed and religion.

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This Pastor simply destroyed by Nadir Ahmed

[nirvana34534]

A lot of hyperbole here, but simply put... BOTH religions in question have examples of violence. (One much more then the other) It is pretty silly to have one point a finger at the other while their own book preaches killing infidels. It is wrong in BOTH places.

[tryingtobegood1]

no its actually not, you clearly don;t read your quran or the hadiths that go along with the verses, nor did you study islamic history, its clear.

nowhere does the quran condone killing innocents, you can go into war in self defense but no more and no less then that.

bring me ONE verse that condones insane violence for NO REASON in the quran i DARE you. i DAAAREE you. bring the context as well

[mumswording]

@tryingtobegood1 KE'DAR KILLED A INNOCENT BOY. A CHILD WHO DID NOTHING WRONG! KIDAR KILLED HIM THEN CUT MEAT FROM HIS SHOULDER. WHY? BECAUSE HE FEARED SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE. THIS MEANS THE BOY DIDNT DO ANYTHING! ALSO THE WORD IS FEARED MEANING THEY WERE SCARED IN THE FUTURE THE BOY MIGHT DO SOMETHING BAD. THIS WAS A INNOCENT KID THAT YOUR RELIGION KILLED FOR NO REASON AT ALL.

[atomac23]

Quotes from Qur'an that contradict each other . Do not just say there is.

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@atomac23

1-Heavens or Earth? Which was created first? First earth and then heaven [2:29], heaven and after that earth [79:27-30].

2-What was man created from? A blood clot [96:1-2], water [21:30, 24:45, 25:54], "sounding" (i.e. burned) clay [15:26], dust [3:59, 30:20, 35:11], nothing [19:67] and this is then denied in 52:35, earth [11:61], a drop of thickened fluid [16:4, 75:37]

[GoodBinGood]

Jesus not even fits as small god..

[ABAisSCIENCE]

Eve said, "I have gotten a man from the Lord" upon birthing Cain because she thought Cain was the seed to bruise the serpent and not because she was some sort of idiot thinking pregnancy was from God.

[ABAisSCIENCE]

God also completely obliterated all of man aside from the family of Noah.

It is likely that the people of that time would slaughter any person who sacrificed as it reminded them they should not be sinning.

God gave the flood so that Noah could sacrifice again thus teaching his children the religion of sacrifice.

God made promises to Adam and Eve in the garden while sacrificing as He clothed them in animal skins which aren't given up lightly.

[mojoman64]

kudos to nadir for sticking to the debate topic!

[ABAisSCIENCE]

100 yrs warning before Flood with Noah.

40 yrs warning for Canaanites during wandering in the wilderness.

God is long suffering.

If they won't leave after 40 yrs seeing a pillar of fire & cloud then if they don't leave after Jews enter Canaan then kill them all seems logical in certain circumstances as opposed to let them live & grow among you to get their revenge.

[bindumas]

How would woman, old people, and babies be responsible for not leaving out of Canaan if they where dependents ?

[ABAisSCIENCE]

Well, I can't speak for God bindumas, but there was a case of God asking for complete abliteration of a people called the Amelikites. The Jews didn't follow that command, but the logic goes something like this.

The Amalekites heated up metal gods & placed their infants in the metal hands to be burned to death. This is because a perfect sacrifice must be an individual who has not sinned.

God desired their perversion of His instituted religion of sacrifice in the Garden of Eden to be judged.

[transwarp100]

Christianity is man worship, whats the point debating these fools...

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@transwarp100 Islam is Satan worship according 2 Muhamed

Sahih Muslim Bk 24 #5277

Bells R the musical instrument of Satan

Sahih Muslim Bk 24 #5279

Theres a devil along w/ each bell

Sahih Bukhari Vol 1 Bk 1 #2

Hows the divine inspiration revealed to u?

Muhamed replied : Sometimes it is revealed like the RINGING OF A BELL Sahibh Bukhari vol 4 bk 54#438

The angel somethimes comes 2 me w/ a voice that resembels the sound of a RINGING BELL.

[boardplaya]

The Old Testament israelites were punished as well as any other sinner or rebel. Jesus Is the Same Yesterday Today and FOREVER he punished unrighteousness. Islam Supports the raping and beating of women AN ABOMINATION TO THE LIVING GOD how can you then with your carnal and lust filled mind say that paridise is full of virgins and sex WHERE IS THE HOLINESS IN CARNAL PLEASURES IN A SPIRITUAL PLACE???? Islam was created by the devil to lure away those who do not want the truth. Jesus IS LORD!!!

[gagnashdiak]

Actually OT also encourages rape.

Check for example Exodus 22.16.

[boardplaya]

It does not. It says if a man entices a woman and they fornicate. If the woman was enticed then that means she wanted it too. to entice is to appeal to a desire; something that was already there. And in actuality this scripture discourages fornication and encourages marriage.

[gagnashdiak]

No. The text exactly says, if you go and rape a woman it isn't a crime, if the victim is virgin.

And if you don't like the woman (who has no word in the matter anyway) you can go separate.

[boardplaya]

My friend do not fool or lie to yourself look it up in the lexicon for the actual literal translation. What you just did was take your preconcieved notions and applied them where u saw fit to discredit what u want Look at the word for word translation for yourself dont let word of mouth be your source it says nothing of rape or force of any kind

[boardplaya]

You might be confusing the Koran with the bible

[gagnashdiak]

Nope, I didn't.

I only read a small piece from the Koran (until I found out it is selfcontradictiory too), but a heluva lot of the Bible. Maybe you (and all believers of it) should read it too before saying another word of it.

[bindumas]

Ok lets play the what if game- what if Islam supports rape and beating woman - the bible supports all that plus cold blooded murder of women and their children! so why would it be wrong in Islam and ok in the Bible? please explain .

[boardplaya]

This guy fails to realize is that Chronicles and The books of Kings is not teaching at all it is the history of the Israelites like he said killing the evil doers in the land. If This guy read further he would have seen that the people that the israelites were ordered to kill were people who sacrificed their children in fire in honor to a false god, an ABOMINATION before God. These people also were unrepentant just as Sodom and Gamora. The old testament Israelites were as stubborn as this guy!

[bindumas]

ALL scripture is profitable says Paul wouldn't include Kings, Chronicles and others?

[hezb786]

thank you brother nadir ahmed for your great works..and much thanks to you also naliakbar for posting this video...but all thanks is due to Allah..

[muslim9x9x]

Shut your mouth daniel scot, ure outnumbered by 140 million and follow your master's religion (anglo saxons). may GOD rebuke you for attacking the Holy Prophet (pbuh).

[musliminshallah]

truth is, nomater what anyone says, islam is NOT a religion of peace!! and this is coming from a muslim!

[deoshah]

you are ?

[murderedboy]

no islam is a religion of peace... and it's not the religions responsibility if people are misguided by worldly belongings... and commit violence in order to claim those worldly belongings... and Islam is more of a religions of peace then any other so far... other then Buddhism maybe but if you are going to take the people of the religion into consideration every single religion has had a figure that has been the worst of his time... you can go look that up.

[musliminshallah]

brother, i have studied quran, bible, guru granth sahib, vedas, and bhuddist teachings i know what im talking about, lisun i had ur mentality at one point aswel but truth is you need to wake up and look at the reality of the world, wake up man!! il post you a link and you will see what i meen, but even that you will make excuses for.. il post it to your inbox...

[hatetospreadhate]

Mister!!! disguised as a Muslim, you are still a christian shit. Don't pretend. you studied so many books, BIBLE, GURU, GRANTH SAHIB.

tell me which one is book of peace???

[musliminshallah]

they all are(well the ones that say there is one God) but you people look at things with a blind eye also you belive everything your parents and teachers tell you.. even your smelly wahhabi teachers seem always to have 1 eye.. and i know exactly what that means!!!

[hatetospreadhate]

there is no such thing wahabi,sunni,shia...REMEMBER!!­! all of the casts in Muslim believe in first five pillars of Islam.1-divinity of Allah,2-Muhammad(PBUH),3-Praye­rs,4-Zakkat(donation to poors),5-Pilgrim to Mecca.

There is no contradiction/conflict among any of the muslim casts.and on top of that all of MUSLIM DENOMINATIONS agree on QU'ran.

Unlike other religions, who have different denominations and different books.

what did your parents teach you by the way?

[musliminshallah]

my parents didnt teach me nothing ive learnt myself, actualy u must remember meslims dont realise but probly 80 percent of islam is hadith and everyone has different haith, no there is not one islam, there is one God yes but believe me there is not 1 islam, why do u 4get even the prophet said there will be over 70 sects of islam.. only 1 of them will go heaven and that will be the smallest one of all of them!! study ur religion bro stop following preachers

[hatetospreadhate]

IF you have learned by yourself. How can you assume that others are taught by the parents? Islam means TOTAL SUBMISSION TO ALLAH. All 72 sects of Islam believe in that which makes them Muslims. There is only ONE Islaam.

And regarding ONE SECT GOING TO HEAVEN and the SMALLEST ONE...than i guess you are AHMADI(Mirzai)...and they are not MUSLIMS.because they don't agree with FIVE PILLARS of Islam.

I myself is from Shia Sect. But overall i'm a MUSLIM and then something else

[musliminshallah]

ohh ur shia, cool i respect that but bro do this go and ask a sunni if you are a muslim ANY sunni and tel me what they say...

[hatetospreadhate]

Alhamdollilah, They all agree.

Even two brothers can have two different opinions about that same issue.

but that doesn't make them BORN BY DIFFERENT PARENTS.they are still brothers. As brother NaliAkbar is doing a great job, he's posting Videos which are a real help to deny the NON MUSLIMS Bullshit against Islam. I can defend my religion very easily after seeing these videos. So i think we should give him a credit for that and try to HELP him by suppourting the video's content which are TRUE!

[musliminshallah]

LOOL.. do u know zakir naik? the shias have put a fatwa on him becuase he said shias r apostates LOL

[hatetospreadhate]

YES, i know what he did. he did call SHIAS APOSTATES. He called YAZID has 'may Allah be pleased with him'. we call YAZID as 'dog'.

But look at Dr.Zakir Naik's contribution towards Islaam. None of his speeches contains any kind of material which promotes SECTism. He's a devoted Muslim and fighting for the RIGHTS of Muslims which have been lost after 9/11.

I already said even brothers have clashes, that's normal, but when it comes to non muslims i'd support ZAKIR NAIK fully

[hatetospreadhate]

my first sentence, HE DID CALL SHIAS APOSTATES should be read as "HE DIDN'T CALL SHIAS APOSTATES"...

typing mistake...thanks

[musliminshallah]

and by the way no its not this is not in mirza or whatever abt the 72 sects this is in sunna.thanks

[be9easy3]

musliminshallah is a non muslim a great example of ppl who want to see muslim fightin each other hadith can be faked but Quran cant be the one sect is the real sect Islam.

And my brothers beware of Quadianies or Ahmadiyya they are an organization made by British in 1900 which says Islam is against Jihad and there organizer claims to be a Prophet and Messiah both. Nauzubillah Prophet Muhammad saw was the last Prophet.

[musliminshallah]

hmmm.. i think you are not aware of what the prophet saws said.. he said there will be 72 sects.. and of them sects 1 of them will be the true believers and only 1 shall enter paradise, maybe u need to learn the prophets teachings a bit more rather than sit on youtube watching debates.. and yes he wasnt sunni,shia etc but the reason we call ourselves sunni is becuz we follow the prophets sunna(what he said) brother do u even know ur religion or u got ur head up ur ass? read quran and read hadith

[hatetospreadhate]

Dear that's what Be9Easy3 wants to tell you , the only sect which is going to be is ISLAM...that's what Muhammad PBUH's religion was/is and will be. Islam is the only sect which is gonna live until the end. rest everything is !!!!!!!!

[be9easy3]

you are right Islam doesnt have any sect the teachings are clear the rules are clear prophet Muhammad saw wasnt a sunni shia etc beware of Zionist Freemasonries who are trying to bring hate within us eg in Iraq: no Muslim will ever bomb a mosque.

We need to unite now and break this boundaries of nationalism and became 1 Ummah and I grantee you no one will ever think to attack us like they did in Iraq or Afghanistan and Pakistan.History shows us together we stand and alone we fall divide and rule

[musliminshallah]

also what is the point sayin 2 keep it 1 umma? when the prophet himself said there will be 72? do u think u can stop it? and stop coming up with ur conspiracy theorys.. the only way muslims will ever get themselves out of this shit is if u stop blaming other pple all the time.. hypocrites.. muslims will never be anything until they get their head out der fukin asses and stop blaming evry1 else!!! peace