The only way you can go to basic officer course without basic is if your a lawyer, doctor or another profession or lastly currently be in the U.S Army, but if your rotc you do not have to got to ocs.
@Runaholism Expirenced butter bars, you see those ribbons? That means they wer prior enlisted. And you should mind your manners because they are going to be your C.O. one day if you join the army. So watch it.
OMG!!! you sorry bunch of F@@#!"S. You have just been inducted as an Army Officer, You BETTER SOUND THE F%$# OFF, AT LEAST DISPLAY SOME KIND OF MOTIVATION!!!!
Why are civilians (assuming family members,etc.), or anyone, being allowed to move among the candidates as they are taking their oath or even during the ceremony at all? It is undignified, disrespectful, and distracting. Unbelieveable. They can get formal pictures or take video from the stands, but to have that kind of behavior during the ceremony is ridiculous and insulting to the candidates, the oath, its meaning, the Army, and the nation. This is a solemn ceremony, not a circus.
Please tell me your opinion if you think that the US Flag's shape and colors R very close or very distant to the inner "hidden" working colors of a gun or a rifle. The upper corner of a gun or rifle is where the triggering mechanism is located: which is either a very sad dark blue enclosed chamber or (color representation) white compression sparks when firing. The barrel of a gun or rifle has either white light coming into the barrel, or (color representation) red fire from burning of gun powder
I am prior service marine, if i go to army officer training, graduate, will i be allowed to wear the ribbons i collected while i served in usmc. i am combat decorated.
im looking to try and become an officer for the army, what do you exactly need to do? I did hear from my step dad who is a sgt Major that i go to a 4 year college and do rotc in which thats basically all i need to do? is there anything else?
4 year college is correct, but you do not need ROTC. You will need 4-6 letters of recommendation from people who know you, might want to not use mom and dad though. Need to be physically fit, or fit by the time you go to MEPS. Go by a recruiting station and talk to them about applying for Commissioned Officer.
Wow...interesting debate & personally I agree with falconflyer - be able to laugh at yourself & lighten up....after all - none of us makes it outta here alive. What do I know?? Just a child of the KING.
I am as well. I leave Jan. 22nd. I have already been given the OCS Officer Candidate manual with the tasks and standards list and a breakdown of the training schedule if you'd like me to send that to you. The most difficult physical thing that you'll encounter is a 10mi road march with 35lbs and you have 3hrs and 50 min to finish, so, it shouldn't be too bad. Also, you spend less than 2 weeks on OPORDS.
Looking to obtain a C-3-1 Graduation Book for March 26, 1981. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance ... Lead the way! Infantry All The Way!
A: I was standing up for these guys, saying they deserve a nicer place to get a commission.
B: If my comment about a BUILDING hurt your feelings, you're a puss, and obviously aren't in the Army, because the U.S. Army would't take a pansy like you
C: The dozens of families whose loved ones are still alive today because I saved their life in a search and rescue mission care about my commission.
"I'm an officer and I'm laughing at your post." doesn't sound anything like you're "...standing up for these guys, saying they deserve a nicer place..." to anyone rational. Again, you using profanity and making inflammatory statements in a public forum is certainly not the sort of behavior for any kind of officer in the armed forces. Your immature statements and lack of professionalism make it obvious that you are indeed NOT a commissioned officer.
Yeah, because I'm not so full of myself that I can laugh when an enlisted person pokes a little fun at us. You need to lighten up. You're not even an officer yet from what I can tell, so you have no right to comment either way. "leaving for OCS" and finishing OCS are two different things. And here's some free advice, you better be able to laugh at yourself, or you'll earn the respect of none of your subordiantes, peers, or seniors.
The last thing I need is your worthless advice on leadership. Especially from someone who hasn't led in combat. Don't you have some sort of JuniorROTC event you're supposed to be at right now instead of being on youtube?
lol, and here's a newsflash for you: Chances are you will also never lead in combat. You'll possibly "train" to do it, but not actually. I see a good future urinalisys program mananger in you Duke. So by your own def. you too won't be a leader. Oh, and one final note, about a THIRD of our helo pilots are former Army, both warrant and regular, and the regulars even gave up at least 1 paygrade (some 2) to do it. And they love it. Yet curiously, you won't find the opposite. Hmmmmm...
No, there is no newsflash. I have already led in combat several times as an NCO. You're conversations are unstructured and transparent. You are not rational or factual and I am no longer going to continue this silliness with you.
This just keeps getting better. So let me get this straight; You didn't like it that I thought a smart ass comment made by a(presumably) enlisted guy about O's was funny, and you're enlisted?!!! El Duque, you're killing me! Oh man, how soon we forget where we came from. Anyway, I know you wanted the last word, so I'll honor that and let you make another comment if you like, and I will no longer respond. My point will be clear to any sane E or O who reads this entire thread. Hasta luego.
Is that the most scenic place they can think of to commission you at Ft. Benning? A parking lot (or something that looks like one) in front of a nondescript building? Isn't there a parade field? It's not a very photogenic location. I'll bet the West Point grads don't stand in a parking lot.
I'll bet you're just happy to get the hell out of there and really don't care what it looks like at your graduation. I really did find it to be an odd background though. Thanks for your service.
OCS isn't hard to get into per-se. There are, however, a ton of variables to consider. Are you a prior service civilian? Civilian with no prior service? Non Army prior service? All of these things raise or lower the level of difficulty in being selected by DA. A 4 year degree is more than enough.
no...im going 09S in the army guard...you will go to basic as an E1 then drill for a couple of months if you are guard wherever they do the OCS prep and then go to OCS as an E4 then be a 2nd luey...im doing the fast track and someone correct me if im wrong but thats the way I understand its going to work for me.
Great video thanks! I was in ROTC through my JR year of college but papers fell through the cracks, really put a damper on things so I left on a good note with them. However after 3 years, I really miss what I got to do in the Army and am seriously considering going in January after my current classes will end (Yah Im a sucker for them college classes) lol Thanks for the video! I hope I can be there sometime next year. I look forward to using the officer skills in my current job!
I was an infantryman during the Cold War, 81-85, 2 years Crailsheim, Germany, and 2 at Ft Polk, LA. You officers will have an impact on the lives of soldiers, long after many of them leave the service. Be fair, be tough, but most of all, be competent, and earn their respect, and keep the standards high. God bless the infantry!
Thanks for the video. My son is now going through OCS. He served our country already...4 years in the Navy and after 9/11, two years in the Reserves. He went to college and graduated with honors. I was hoping he was done with the military but he wasn't...we plan on attending graduation ceremonies next month.
Being prior enlisted does not make you a better soldier. You are either good or a piece of shit. You can be a piece of shit as an E5 just as easy as you can O3. But I know what you mean - when I was a Captain some of the most arrogant little fuck's I knew were Butter Bar's.
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Any officer that didn't serve as enlisted is fucking worthless...look at the way they sound off at the end of OSC and then look at enlisted at the end of boot...big difference. There's always an exception to the rule but for the most part...worthless.
@wafflecushioned For clarification to something I wrote 3 years ago,.. If somebody is attending OCS then they are either prior service (they went to Basic Training at the beginning of their enlisted years) or a college option MOS 09S, which those candidates will have just completed Basic Training immediately prior to their OCS. Hence, all OCS candidates will have completed Basic Training at some point. All "candidates" are technically enlisted during the course being paid at least E-5 pay.
@zewad Zewad for some reason lately alot of kids are being told that they don't have to attend basic training, I actually fell out with an old friend when I told him he still needed to attend. He whined like a lil bitch and told me when he gets his bar he's gonna fuck my world up... I'm an E-5 now and he's doing ROTC and still believes what he told me to this day. "His recruiter" Gave him this false knowlege...
@WarfighterCapable Officer Basic Course is not the same as Basic. There are a few ways you can become an officer and a few of them involve no basic training. And by basic, I mean the training that enlisted go through.
@wafflecushioned Okay, Your wrong i'm right : D , I hope you don't wanna be an Infantry officer cause if you believe everything your told we'll tear you a new on...
@WarfighterCapable I'm just speaking off of what I've heard from people I know who have been officers in the military. But they became officers a long time ago and they probably changed process. If I could join the military, and I would if I could, I wouldn't want to be an officer anyway.
Just the type of comment you would expect from a stupid Aryan piece of shit(Look at his profile)! As a former Enlisted Soldier, and Army Infantry Officer I can definitely say this asshole doesn't know shit. I know many Excellent Officers that have never spent a single day as an Enlisted soldier! Just because you are too stupid, or racist, to educate yourself enough to become an officer is no reason to put down those that aren't. Move out and draw fire dick head!
The only way you can go to basic officer course without basic is if your a lawyer, doctor or another profession or lastly currently be in the U.S Army, but if your rotc you do not have to got to ocs.
stl21moore 4 months ago
They should seriously use a microphone next time.
Runaholism 9 months ago
@Runaholism Expirenced butter bars, you see those ribbons? That means they wer prior enlisted. And you should mind your manners because they are going to be your C.O. one day if you join the army. So watch it.
McDogginified 8 months ago
@McDogginified I must have been asleep when I wrote that comment. What I meant was, "the announcer," not the squad.
Yeah, if the Army is willing to even accept me. :oP
Runaholism 8 months ago
Great, more butter bars...
doncroswhite 10 months ago
@doncroswhite alot of these butter bars were former enlisted... a good chunk of OCS grads are former enlisted
jchen012 10 months ago
i didnt get my paper work in on time and didnt meet one requirement by april30
to start basic and then start OCS.
but its all good i go back to MEPs this week to get the next OCS date
and become an officer
honeyb1227 10 months ago
OMG!!! you sorry bunch of F@@#!"S. You have just been inducted as an Army Officer, You BETTER SOUND THE F%$# OFF, AT LEAST DISPLAY SOME KIND OF MOTIVATION!!!!
00Gorge00 11 months ago
This may be the most awkward ceremony I have ever seen.
bw01a 1 year ago
There sure are a lot of OCS folks who don't know how to wear that 'awesome' black beret.
apacheguy34 1 year ago
About how hard/long is OCS?
PloK00nsClone 1 year ago
@PloK00nsClone OCS is 12 weeks long. its not as bad as basic i dont think!!
saywhaat09 1 year ago
all different shapes and sizes
punhoss 1 year ago
Why are civilians (assuming family members,etc.), or anyone, being allowed to move among the candidates as they are taking their oath or even during the ceremony at all? It is undignified, disrespectful, and distracting. Unbelieveable. They can get formal pictures or take video from the stands, but to have that kind of behavior during the ceremony is ridiculous and insulting to the candidates, the oath, its meaning, the Army, and the nation. This is a solemn ceremony, not a circus.
cg321 1 year ago 5
Please tell me your opinion if you think that the US Flag's shape and colors R very close or very distant to the inner "hidden" working colors of a gun or a rifle. The upper corner of a gun or rifle is where the triggering mechanism is located: which is either a very sad dark blue enclosed chamber or (color representation) white compression sparks when firing. The barrel of a gun or rifle has either white light coming into the barrel, or (color representation) red fire from burning of gun powder
trader0108 1 year ago
damn! the "platoon sergeant" in the back of the formation was SF and has earned a bronze star.
killme1990 1 year ago
are jump boots authorized during graduation?
gravity5 1 year ago
@gravity5 No jump boots because OCS personnel are not on jump status.
apacheguy34 1 year ago
If i decide to go, i have to go be an army offcer because usmc is super strict on tatoos. Funny thing is, i got them all when i was in.
dakofoed 1 year ago
the hardest course i've ever been in. OCS Class 49!
casper79usa 2 years ago
I am prior service marine, if i go to army officer training, graduate, will i be allowed to wear the ribbons i collected while i served in usmc. i am combat decorated.
dakofoed 2 years ago
Some of them. You'll have to check the reg.
acabe 2 years ago
@dakofoed
yep!
OakIslandBandit 1 year ago
why not go Marine OCS?
vwguyaz87 1 year ago
im looking to try and become an officer for the army, what do you exactly need to do? I did hear from my step dad who is a sgt Major that i go to a 4 year college and do rotc in which thats basically all i need to do? is there anything else?
deathhax 2 years ago
4 year college is correct, but you do not need ROTC. You will need 4-6 letters of recommendation from people who know you, might want to not use mom and dad though. Need to be physically fit, or fit by the time you go to MEPS. Go by a recruiting station and talk to them about applying for Commissioned Officer.
ZeRoC2001 2 years ago
alright man, thanks alot, so then rotc is just a pre OCS training course then?
deathhax 2 years ago
Wow...interesting debate & personally I agree with falconflyer - be able to laugh at yourself & lighten up....after all - none of us makes it outta here alive. What do I know?? Just a child of the KING.
TroyDiva 2 years ago
I will be attending OCS soon, does anyone know what it is like, how hard is it?
Th34gent 2 years ago
I am as well. I leave Jan. 22nd. I have already been given the OCS Officer Candidate manual with the tasks and standards list and a breakdown of the training schedule if you'd like me to send that to you. The most difficult physical thing that you'll encounter is a 10mi road march with 35lbs and you have 3hrs and 50 min to finish, so, it shouldn't be too bad. Also, you spend less than 2 weeks on OPORDS.
DukeOfBattles 2 years ago
I'll appreciate it if you send me the training breakdown and schedule manual, thanks.
Th34gent 2 years ago
I graduate Jan 14th. It was very challenging but if your attitude is right and in shape, you can make it.
steven4068 2 years ago
Looking to obtain a C-3-1 Graduation Book for March 26, 1981. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance ... Lead the way! Infantry All The Way!
njneopatriot 2 years ago
Pretty bad ass, grats everyone.
Deovindice2001 2 years ago
ughh .. more officers :-(
CujoTheMadDawg310 2 years ago 2
I'm an officer and I'm laughing at your post.
falconflyer34 2 years ago
A: If you are an officer, that comment was pretty unprofessional.
B: Nobody cares about your coast guard commission if indeed you do have one.
DukeOfBattles 2 years ago
what the hell are you talking about??
A: I was standing up for these guys, saying they deserve a nicer place to get a commission.
B: If my comment about a BUILDING hurt your feelings, you're a puss, and obviously aren't in the Army, because the U.S. Army would't take a pansy like you
C: The dozens of families whose loved ones are still alive today because I saved their life in a search and rescue mission care about my commission.
D: Put that in your pipe and smoke it!
falconflyer34 2 years ago
"I'm an officer and I'm laughing at your post." doesn't sound anything like you're "...standing up for these guys, saying they deserve a nicer place..." to anyone rational. Again, you using profanity and making inflammatory statements in a public forum is certainly not the sort of behavior for any kind of officer in the armed forces. Your immature statements and lack of professionalism make it obvious that you are indeed NOT a commissioned officer.
DukeOfBattles 2 years ago
Yeah, because I'm not so full of myself that I can laugh when an enlisted person pokes a little fun at us. You need to lighten up. You're not even an officer yet from what I can tell, so you have no right to comment either way. "leaving for OCS" and finishing OCS are two different things. And here's some free advice, you better be able to laugh at yourself, or you'll earn the respect of none of your subordiantes, peers, or seniors.
falconflyer34 2 years ago
The last thing I need is your worthless advice on leadership. Especially from someone who hasn't led in combat. Don't you have some sort of JuniorROTC event you're supposed to be at right now instead of being on youtube?
DukeOfBattles 2 years ago
lol, and here's a newsflash for you: Chances are you will also never lead in combat. You'll possibly "train" to do it, but not actually. I see a good future urinalisys program mananger in you Duke. So by your own def. you too won't be a leader. Oh, and one final note, about a THIRD of our helo pilots are former Army, both warrant and regular, and the regulars even gave up at least 1 paygrade (some 2) to do it. And they love it. Yet curiously, you won't find the opposite. Hmmmmm...
falconflyer34 2 years ago
No, there is no newsflash. I have already led in combat several times as an NCO. You're conversations are unstructured and transparent. You are not rational or factual and I am no longer going to continue this silliness with you.
DukeOfBattles 2 years ago
This just keeps getting better. So let me get this straight; You didn't like it that I thought a smart ass comment made by a(presumably) enlisted guy about O's was funny, and you're enlisted?!!! El Duque, you're killing me! Oh man, how soon we forget where we came from. Anyway, I know you wanted the last word, so I'll honor that and let you make another comment if you like, and I will no longer respond. My point will be clear to any sane E or O who reads this entire thread. Hasta luego.
falconflyer34 2 years ago
And if you think "hell" is profanity, or that officers don't ever use profanity, you're entering the wrong line of work.
falconflyer34 2 years ago
Is that the most scenic place they can think of to commission you at Ft. Benning? A parking lot (or something that looks like one) in front of a nondescript building? Isn't there a parade field? It's not a very photogenic location. I'll bet the West Point grads don't stand in a parking lot.
falconflyer34 2 years ago 3
I just graduated basic (enlisted) and AIT at Ft. Benning, and yes, that's pretty much as scenic as it gets. lol
metallmayhem 2 years ago
I'll bet you're just happy to get the hell out of there and really don't care what it looks like at your graduation. I really did find it to be an odd background though. Thanks for your service.
falconflyer34 2 years ago
yep, you've got that right, just glad to be gone, lol. and don't thank me, It's an honor to serve amongst the US Infantry.
metallmayhem 2 years ago
Infantry leads the way.
DukeOfBattles 2 years ago
all the way
frankylongballs 2 years ago
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phidelt85 2 years ago
It's not a parking lot. It is the walkway that faces some of the OCS barracks and is surrounded by special OCS monuments.
It is not the most beautiful but is a historically significant area of the campus.
steven4068 2 years ago
does anyone know how long the school is ?
bsc1959 2 years ago
12 weeks
arabbalqis87 2 years ago
is it hard to get into ocs if you have a 4 year degree...
quest8899 2 years ago
Having a degree is only one part of the equation. They will review your entire background.
AndJusticeForMe 2 years ago 2
OCS isn't hard to get into per-se. There are, however, a ton of variables to consider. Are you a prior service civilian? Civilian with no prior service? Non Army prior service? All of these things raise or lower the level of difficulty in being selected by DA. A 4 year degree is more than enough.
Robway034 2 years ago
I'm doing the blue to green program and hopefully I will be accepted into the OCS Army program :)....too bad its in a year and six months
rgunitx 2 years ago
no...im going 09S in the army guard...you will go to basic as an E1 then drill for a couple of months if you are guard wherever they do the OCS prep and then go to OCS as an E4 then be a 2nd luey...im doing the fast track and someone correct me if im wrong but thats the way I understand its going to work for me.
KnightOfTheAbyss1 2 years ago
Obviously some straight up legs in that group from the way they are wearing those berets.
speedtrapp28 3 years ago
Man that one dude in the middle of the first Plt is gigantic.
stnewton09 3 years ago 3
Great video thanks! I was in ROTC through my JR year of college but papers fell through the cracks, really put a damper on things so I left on a good note with them. However after 3 years, I really miss what I got to do in the Army and am seriously considering going in January after my current classes will end (Yah Im a sucker for them college classes) lol Thanks for the video! I hope I can be there sometime next year. I look forward to using the officer skills in my current job!
Niche79 3 years ago 2
I was an infantryman during the Cold War, 81-85, 2 years Crailsheim, Germany, and 2 at Ft Polk, LA. You officers will have an impact on the lives of soldiers, long after many of them leave the service. Be fair, be tough, but most of all, be competent, and earn their respect, and keep the standards high. God bless the infantry!
rexanater 3 years ago 15
Hope some of you are going to be fine infantry soliders the rest of them can be support.Sgt us army infantry
ambersbiggaylover 3 years ago
Thanks for the video. My son is now going through OCS. He served our country already...4 years in the Navy and after 9/11, two years in the Reserves. He went to college and graduated with honors. I was hoping he was done with the military but he wasn't...we plan on attending graduation ceremonies next month.
deniserobin 4 years ago
Wman74,
Being prior enlisted does not make you a better soldier. You are either good or a piece of shit. You can be a piece of shit as an E5 just as easy as you can O3. But I know what you mean - when I was a Captain some of the most arrogant little fuck's I knew were Butter Bar's.
bamadawgsc 4 years ago 2
haha wow Butter bar's is an old school term lol
blahonyou123 3 years ago 3
Butter bar is still a term that's used.
steven4068 2 years ago
why are there girls at the graduation? umm fort benning is strictly for boys. i know my dad works there
twinkletoesbitch098 4 years ago
It's OCS, not BCT. BCT at Ft. Benning is strictly male only. OCS, along with many of the other schools at Ft. Benning, is coed.
spzero414 4 years ago
Can't wait... going there in Jan for BT
phrozenghost 4 years ago
Fort Benning, HOME OF THE INFANTRY! The best soldiers in the world. I was here for BCT.
allanstrada 4 years ago
My brother's there as well. But today's his first day...so, he won't be home for a while...:(
OhSnapProductions 4 years ago
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Any officer that didn't serve as enlisted is fucking worthless...look at the way they sound off at the end of OSC and then look at enlisted at the end of boot...big difference. There's always an exception to the rule but for the most part...worthless.
Wman74 4 years ago
Nobody can attend OCS without having completed Basic Training.
zewad 4 years ago 9
@zewad Basic training is for enlisted.
wafflecushioned 1 year ago
@wafflecushioned For clarification to something I wrote 3 years ago,.. If somebody is attending OCS then they are either prior service (they went to Basic Training at the beginning of their enlisted years) or a college option MOS 09S, which those candidates will have just completed Basic Training immediately prior to their OCS. Hence, all OCS candidates will have completed Basic Training at some point. All "candidates" are technically enlisted during the course being paid at least E-5 pay.
zewad 1 year ago
@zewad Zewad for some reason lately alot of kids are being told that they don't have to attend basic training, I actually fell out with an old friend when I told him he still needed to attend. He whined like a lil bitch and told me when he gets his bar he's gonna fuck my world up... I'm an E-5 now and he's doing ROTC and still believes what he told me to this day. "His recruiter" Gave him this false knowlege...
WarfighterCapable 7 months ago
@wafflecushioned You can't attend OCS without graduating basic training.... I dunno who told you differently...
WarfighterCapable 7 months ago
@WarfighterCapable Officer Basic Course is not the same as Basic. There are a few ways you can become an officer and a few of them involve no basic training. And by basic, I mean the training that enlisted go through.
wafflecushioned 7 months ago
@wafflecushioned Okay, Your wrong i'm right : D , I hope you don't wanna be an Infantry officer cause if you believe everything your told we'll tear you a new on...
WarfighterCapable 7 months ago
@WarfighterCapable I'm just speaking off of what I've heard from people I know who have been officers in the military. But they became officers a long time ago and they probably changed process. If I could join the military, and I would if I could, I wouldn't want to be an officer anyway.
wafflecushioned 7 months ago
Just the type of comment you would expect from a stupid Aryan piece of shit(Look at his profile)! As a former Enlisted Soldier, and Army Infantry Officer I can definitely say this asshole doesn't know shit. I know many Excellent Officers that have never spent a single day as an Enlisted soldier! Just because you are too stupid, or racist, to educate yourself enough to become an officer is no reason to put down those that aren't. Move out and draw fire dick head!
bvguyy 4 years ago 4
My brother is at Ft Benning right now. I'll get to see him next month though I can't wait I miss him so much
Kayleigh27 4 years ago
I was in BIOCC 1-80. Great memories!
ordc80 4 years ago
I was in Class 05-03. Brings back some memories.
record06 4 years ago