also, we often judge great champions by their opponents. even ali had some setups, but not almost every bloody so called championship fight. derek chisora worthy of a title fight? i don't think so. a game lad, but undeserving. didn't tyson fury beat him clearly?
the only fight that klitschko will be remembered for is the one he lost to lennox lewis. a full on brawl, but lennox did the business, as they say. klitschko was unlucky with the cut, but lennox gutted it out when the going got tough.
quit on the stool against chris byrd ... no ali. would ali have quit on the stool? Boxing is as much about the mental and skills as it is about height and size. mike tyson proved that.
i watch many many times this fight and.ali haved won this match,ali haved won 9 rounds and joe 6.butt knock down play role?......i dont know?butt two fights of two real warriors is all time ////greats fights
i watch many many times this fight and.ali haved won this match,ali haved won 9 rounds and joe 6.butt knock down play role?......i dont know?butt two fights of two real warriors is all time ////greats fights///////////
@IllusiveMan23 vs adamek vitali weighed 98 kilos, vs Sosnowski 101.8, Joe vs Ali 101.8 FOR Joe, Ali -Foreman, 99.8 for Ali, If u see them fight in the same weight and you cant appreciate the diffrence in speed, defense, technic,and heart, that's in your head, everybody knows that this fight is one of the best of all boxing time, I dont see that in any Klitschco's fights what make u think that if they could fight vitali would weight 120 and them 100? and you asked ME for brains?
@jinete2420 vitali's avrage weight per match is 105kg and ali's 92, vitali is 2.00m and ali 1.90.. wtf are you talking about... -.- results in sports today go higher, world records get beaten all thanks to modern food diet,proteins and way of training , you cannot compare a car from 1970's and a bmw from 2010... we can only speculate but the facts are clear...
@IllusiveMan23 oh as they used to fight 15 rounds than 12 today, Im comparing their performance in about 100 kgs as they all has fought, I dont understand why u insist in the weight diffrence, height is not all, (Haye-Valuev, Tyson-many boxers etc.) about food and steroids plus point 4 them, sure pal whatever u say, that's just opinions, fact is Klitschko's never gonna get renown or make legendary fights as the 70's heaviweight american boxers that's 4 sure
@jinete2420 Let's be realistic. Let me start by saying that Ali is my favorite boxer ever. But the sport has evolved so much since Ali and Frazier that not only would the Klitschkos win, but so would some of today's lesser fighters. Ali was indeed the catalyst and the mold for the evolution of boxing for the past fifty years, but he was only a small part of where it is today. Boxers today train and fight different due to advancements in the health and science fields involved.
From somebody not studied in boxing, I would guess Ali would have to have undoubtedly won the fight to take the title from Joe. It looked like Ali won several rounds by out boxing Joe, but it also looked like Joe won several rounds with hard hits. Throw the knockdown of Ali in there, and also the frequent clinching by Ali as well, and you can see why the outcome was what it was. Very fun fight to watch =)
Does any one notice that the ref doesn't wear latex gloves, and the announcers don't arm chair quarter back the fight, they actually just tell it like it is rather than act as if they were in the fight as the commentators do today. Oh, the good ol' days. Btw no faint station logo in the corner either. I just love the way T.V used to be good.
(End of 15th announcer) "Joe Frazier seems to be sick in his corner". {Ali almost killed his ass} They say this fight should be judged on a rounds basis, name the rounds Joe beat Ali in. I say Ali won rounds 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 9, 10, 12, and 14. Joe just won rounds 6, 11 (BIG!), 13 and 15 (BIG), and round 8 EVEN: Ali 10, Joe 4, 1 even; Ali is correct; on a point system, on a rounds basis, how does a 15th round knockdown supersede a 10 round Ali advantage? That dispells the Ali Favored MYTH.
I was born in the 60's so I lived through that period and I have to admit i got caught up in the whole ali hype. I have to say though when having looked at the documentary about his relationship with Fraser, the thriller in manilla, I think some of what ali did and said was pretty shitty. He treated Frazier like garbage and for no reason. He was an asshole and he got a lot of decisions that he shouln't have because of who he was.
@elknobomucho I too was born in 1960, &Ali's struggle was as much a human &civil rights struggle as any during that time, &our family followed it, &we know of it &we remember it- & it was not even mentioned in the Thrilla Documentary that unduly casts Frazier as an innocent victim undeserving of Ali's ridiculing, &Ali as an unprovoked ogre calling Joe a gorilla as though Ali was mocking Joe's Africoid features-something Ali would never do. Boxing myths come from such Docs as this telling one-...
...side,incompletions,or misunderstandings of a vast story in order to fit it into a time frame,a budget,or even a political agenda. In most probability the truth wound up on the cutting room floor. Ali's Religious name was Muhammad Ali, his U.S.Government name was Ali, yet to mock him,to disturb &disrespect him,Joe never had the decency to call him Ali; to provoke him Joe publicly called him the now offensive & rejected slave name of "CLAY," an unwarranted,vicious attack upon a proud Muslim &..
...Ali fought back;he called Joe a Gorilla,but no reference to Joe's Black looks as the media portrays it, it was merely a reference to Joe's fighting style as a dumb,vicious, smashed-in nosed,hairy knuckled brute,like boxers of the day were carciatured in cartoons,regardless of race.Plus Ali beat a champ for the title,the U.S.unjustly took it, & Joe gleefully wound up with it without beating a champ? What should Ali have said when Joe called him "CLAY"? Learn the whole story, not the mythe.
Great Joe Frazier is a beast tho. damn he can take punches, he just keep coming. Other fighters will have quit throw jabs out of frustration for not knocking him down. But with the greatness in Ali, he kept going.
How on earth does Frazier take it during the first rounds? No wonder he fell apart so easily against Foreman, the kind of punishment Ali delivered early in the fight would have left a lesser man completely mentally aswell as physicly deranged.
@blutobelushi Stop believing boxing myths;no force on earth was gonna keep Ali on that stool & let the already defeated &destroyed,defenseless,offenseless arche enemy Joe Frazier take his title by default.Listen to Ali's doctor Ferdie who said that Joe would have gotten killed had he come out for the 15th. He's Ali's doctor in the corner & he said Ali was coming out.Don't believe the boxing mythology. Ali worked his whole life to prove he was all man;he wasn't quitting even tho he felt like it.
@MrPerryrice Experts say both men were near death.Joe was beating Ali for awhile until Angelo Dundee RIP altered the battleplan."defeated,destroyed,defenseless offenseless" proves you have no respect for a late great champion and are a mutt.RIP Joe .....Ali respected Joe.he said neither one of them would have been the men they were without each other.what you dont know about boxing would fill the ocean.
@blutobelushi Both were near death,but Ali had a doctor in his corner (more qualified to speak on their conditions than you) who said he feared only one man's death, Joe's, had Joe come out that corner for the 15th. In rounds 13 &14 Joe couldn't hit Ali, or stop being hit, he couldn't see anymore, had no more energy, &was offenseless, defenseless &destroyed (what fight were you watching?), & the 15th would have killed him according to Ali's doctor & apparently Joe's trainer too who stopped it.
jeryd203: Alright, omnipotent one. In whut year did Joe Frazier lose 63% of his vision in one eye? Do Frazier fans use that excuse? In 71', Ali hd fawt sev'l. bouts & hd EVERY opp 2 bring best vs Joe. Ali ws in vry good condition, sport. A 1 & 1/2 eyed JF kicked his ass! 10-5 JF. Wld've been wider if ref had taken pts away (as is dun today, btw) 4 Ali's consnt holdng/grabbing @ holdng around neck. Ali did same shit in othr 2 bouts between them.
@3244gorilla Do you not know that Ali admitted that he had underestimated Joe's ability, & gone into the fight prepared to go just 10 rounds with Joe crumbling inside of 10? And that he was not conditioned for more? And that Ali promised next time he'd have staminia to beat Joe's ass for 15, and did it twice (the last a TKO)? And Joe was so hysterical about ducking the much called for rematch,that he foolishly ran headlong into George Foreman rather than risk his title again against the1972 Ali?
AllanHelpsKlitshko: All I can say is, "seriously, sport"??? U r either doing polydrug use, undr the age of 30, know nothng of our involvement in Vietnam, r clueless as 2 the multipliciity of factors tht spurred withdrawal, or ur "Ali ws the main reason" tht ended our participation in Vietnam claim is simply a reflection of ur STUPIDITY! Take "Intro. to American History 101 again (ltfol).
Muhammad Ali was the main force that turned the USA population against the war! Of course Ali managed to get his boxing license back in 1970 and just a few yrs later(1973) Ali managed to make the USA pull out of the Vietnam war!
If it wasn't for Ali, then the reatrded USA would have supported the Vietnam war, just like today they supported the war against Libya, Africa etc
As a matter of a fact even Angelina Jolie supported the war against Libya
people question how frazier was able to absorb alis punches, the answer lies in the 3 & 1/2 years off without trainning. alis strength was less and his quickness was less. in fact frazier look stronger and quicker.
this is an uncomfortable fight to watch towards the end. So much damage! Nobody can shrug off that kind of damage, so many blows, and we saw this later in their lives. How Frazier was so tough I'll never understand.
how did Frazier take so much punishment? The sheer number of solid hits to the head he absorbs is ridiculous. Its incredible, almost scary - like the Terminator, he can't be stopped!
@perseus07 Thats more because Ali lost his speed and amazing reflexes after the lay-off. Not to mention came in rusty and somewhat out of shape as he lost steam in the middle rounds so he used the ropes to rest and thats when Frazier landed.
smokeweed11: Yeah, that's correct. It's actually the most accurate scoring of this fight, invlvng vital elements to win rounds. 1) Aggressor in EVERY rnd. 2) Twice the amt of brutal powr punches landed. 3) Judge prbly fctrd in Ali's incessnt holding/grabbng Joe's neck & clinchng/hldng 2 slow down attax (by today's stndrds, Ref wld dedct mltple pts aftr sev'l. warnngs). 4) 11th rnd is10-8 - cnstnt, brutal powr punches & near KD/KO 5) 15th rnd is 10-8. 11-4 & 10-4-1 (my score) are approprte score
Ali had a better chin than joe but I don't think having a good chin is anything to brag about. It just means you'll have a higher chance of long term brain damage in the log run cause you never stay down. Brain and kidneys can't be toughened up to absorb punishment like other parts I the body. When they get hit you loose. Period.
Ali jacked up frazier's face but the damage was more superficial, it eventually healed back to somewhat normal like a human being. Ali suffered permanent damage from his fights, although it wasn't evident until late 76 early 77.
2:53, Ali feels Joe's power for the 1st time 4:00, for the 2nd time. I think Ali thought he was going to be much stronger than Joe. I think it suprised him that the smaller man could be so strong.
@Triangulove Are you saying Ali won this fight? I think that's already been settled, even Ali admitted that Joe won this fight. Maybe Ali landed the more flashy punches but if you turn up your volume, you will hear Joe lands the much heavier punches.
To me it looked like ali landed more punches, especially in flurries. And that is kind of evidenced by the condition of fraziers face after the fight. He didn't even look that way after the foreman fight. Heavier punches or not ali landed more of them, it seems. But I am not disputing the decision, as it would be pointless, I mean this fight was long before I was even born, but I find it historically curious.
@blite13 Have you forgotten that Ali and the announcers admitted, and even when I view it, I say Ali won at least 10 rounds? How does 1 knockdown and 4 rounds win a 15 round fight? Right. It ain't supposed to.
@Triangulove Because he damn well did. Are you blind. Ali clearly won 10 rounds to, giving Joe all the ones in doubt, 5. The knockdown is the only thing that saved Joes title. Are you blind? No more of this stupid talk about Ali was gifted fights. Watch superfight and judge round by round. Ali 10, I say, Joe 5 (though I judge rnd 8 even).
People wonder why Ali didn't dance...just watch Rd 5 ...Joe was cutting him down, Ali HAD TO FIGHT, Joe made him fight. No way Ali would have made the distanhce if he tried to dance all night.
@blite13 This whole fight happened for one stupid reason: Ali's arrogance to think he didn't have to train for 15 rounds, that Joe would crumble inside of ten, &he could prove to the world he could stand flat footed in four rounds and out slug a slugger. That's it. Had Ali been in his right mind, he would not have exhausted himself flat footed slugging with Joe rounds 1 through 5; he'd have stayed away and boxed his ears off just as he did in the 1974 fight where Joe couldn't touch him.
Ali's punches look good and have a snap, but Joe's punches do heavy damage. Joe was hurting Ali right from Rd 1. Ali slapping a lot...I've watched this fight many times but always see it different each time. This version is one of the cleanest as far as recognizing the power and of the punches and who lands cleanly. Dunphy is scoring punches for Ali that are being deflected or slipped by Frazier. In RD3. Dunphy also forgets to mention that most fighters would have been KOed by those lefts of Joe
@Triangulove Joe was a puffer, his face was puffed after most his fights. But Ali punished his face....also, back then, they didn't use enswell and it would let Joe get puffed. Joe also shot mucus out of his nose between Rds, Angelo said that causes the face to puff up. If you watch the fight closely and not listen to Dunphy give his onesided account of Ali's punches landing, you can see Joe catches a lot with his gloves and rolls with a punch.Joe also was dehydrated=kidney problem.
But ali's face didn't look nearly as bad after the fight. I know not all of his punches landed, but a considerable amount of them did. I would say, of all the punches ali threw, about 80% of them appear to have landed. Of all the punches Frazier threw, 60% of them appeared to land.
I'm not sure about that, but I do know that I see ali landing a heck of a lot of punches. That's not to say frazier did not win or have the upper hand here, but ali definitely bombarded him quite a few times.
@Triangulove Yeah, but was he hospitalized on his damn death bead? The announcer said Fraizier was sick in his corner; you excuse makers are the pits; but was Joe in the hospital for months after those fights as he was against Ali? Not even Foreman beat Joe as Ali did. Why discredit Ali this way? I do not understand you guys. Even in defeat Ali whipped his ass terribly, outpointed him, and won more rounds in the first fight. You all are pathetic, and don't know scoring.
I think you misquoted, I was the one speaking against those who try to discredit or reduce the stature of Ali I think, despite the one loss to frazier, that Ali still got the better of him in that fight, with the exception of round 11.
@Triangulove Oh No! You are absolutely right, I messed up. I meant to aim that comment at blite13. My Bad. Plus I outright misunderstood an earlier comment of yours and foolishly shot at you that time too. Let me off the hook, OK?
@MrPerryrice Joe was in the hospital for weeks after this fight because of a kidney problem. Joe had the problem during this fight and was totally dehydrated at the end of the fight.
@blite13 Funny, Joe wasn't in the hospital for all these ailments before the fight was he? I guess his needing treatment for all these things afterwards had nothing to do with Ali giving him the worst beating of his life (dispite Joe getting the decision),restructuring his face & reshaping his head? I suppose all that damage wouldn't have run his pressure up, exacerbated his kidney problems, or dehydrated him to the point of hospitalization and near death? Sure, Ali had nothing to do with it.
@MrPerryrice So the Dr's who said joes Kidney's were all messed up, were lying? When did they have to restructure his face?, Joe was a 'puffer', his face always puffed up, mainly because he would shoot air through his nose to clear his sinus. Dundee even said that, it would cause the swelling. Add to the fact that they didn't use enswell back then and Joe always had a swelled face after a fight. 15 RDs of bruising action would swell even Ali's face? Ali took the beating of his life2
@blite13 Fair enough, Joe had kidney problems, but they didn't have him hospitalized until after the fight. I wonder why? Joe was a puffer for one reason, he lead with his head and absorbed punches that puffed him up; he even took beatings in many of his victories, he puffed from punches, not his breathing. Ali didn't use enswell either and only his haw swelled...from Joes punches, not Ali's breathing. Yes,15 rounds swelled & damaged both their faces, & yes, Ali took the beating of his life too.
@MrPerryrice How does getting punched in the face cause high bood pressure and kidney problems? Ali never once punched Joe in the midsection, how could Ali cause Joe's kidney problems?
@blite13 Any injuries, stress, wounds, swelling, like both of Joes eyes, both sides of his head was knotted up, & the huge knot on his left jaw, the busted lips and cuts inside his mouth all can cause high blood pressure. Plus I never said Ali caused Joe's high blood pressure, although he did raise it to the deathly rate it reached that night;how is it even debatable that fighting Ali caused his hospitalization? Jeez. Healing wounds require a raise blood pressure; Joe had plenty wounds that nite
...and all of that stuff would exacerbate an already bad set of kidneys because the kidneys would really suffer trying to strain all that waste generated by so many injuries all at once. Injuries fill the blood with waste material &Joe's already bad kidneys simply couldn't handle the job of filtering the overload out of Joe's blood system. This is not rocket science you know? Ali put Joe in the hospital for 3 weeks- it's not that big of a deal to accept. Why all these excuses for Joe denying it?
@MrPerryrice Are you gay? How can you think you can score a HW championship if you are gay? You are too busy watching Ali's ass to even see that Joe is putting a hurting on Ali every round. You give Rds to Ali when he is on the ropes and holding? I'm glad you aren't allowed to score fights as a judge, then everyone would know that it is a sham. You just some assclown trying to be a man...you have a long way to go, girly boy.
@blite13 Is your old ass gay? How can you think you can score a championship fight if you are too busy looking for gays rather than concerning yourself with the number of punches landed and the damage Ali caused Frazier on a rounds and points basis? You'd have noticed if you weren't watching Ali's ass, you old queen (you actually brought up Ali's ass?). And as wrinkled, puckered, and sunken-in as your ugly old face is I'm glad to know you don't have very long to go, 'ole girly boy.
@MrPerryrice Get your own material, I checked your page and you liked a vid of gays who danced around in women's clothes...so, it seems that you like them for some reason?
@blite13 You obviously enjoy talking about gays since you raised the issue twice; and you obviously enjoy your discussions with me even though you think I am gay; therefore let me put it this way: If I am gay and my liking a gay video reveals it, then you are gay for engaging me in these conversations and liking it, and for raising the gay issue in a boxing conversation in the first place. And maybe you even liked the video too. All I know is it "seems" you're too interested in gays yourself.
Its unbelievable how Ali walked through those heave Frazier left hooks like they didn't hurt. And how he is able to stand up after that vicious knockdown. He had the best heart of all champs in my opinion.
This will forever be known as the greatest fight in boxing history. They gave us everything they had. Blood, sweat, tears the whole nine yards. After the fight, Ali said, "it was the closes to death I've ever been". Now here we are thirty something years later. Ali just recently turned forty. And the late great Joe Frazier has passed away. Like I said. This will be known as the greatest fight in boxing history. Ali said that Frazier was the only boxer to talk back. Best boxing fight.
@GreenLantern771 RECENTLY TURNED 40???? THAT MUST HAVE BEEN A TYPO. ALSO, THE "CLOSEST TO DEATH" STATEMENT THAT ALI MADE WAS AFTER THE 3RD FIGHT. THE THRILLA IN MANILLA.
@GreenLantern771 I do like thrilla a little better; could be cause of the outcome though. Far as I'm concerned, on a rounds by rounds basius, Ali is 3 and o versus Joe.
I like how around 19:17 the commentator is praising Frazier, completely oblivious to the rapid succession of jabs and rights Ali is landing on Frazier's face.
is it me or do you just not see boxing styles like these anymore? they move, they stick, they back up, they weave. not like today's street thug punks who just stand there and wail on each other's head like it's a streetfight in Compton.
such off the hook talent" both these fighters were so dam good" boy what a show they put on for the world so much excitement " talk about giving it everything you got and then some I met Muhammad Ali what a class acted nice guy all smiles:)
should give ali more credit , i mean everyone was like fraziers a tank and yea he did take a beating, got hit by some beautiful combos did u see his face he looked like he got implants , but ali was the man for taking so many of them strong left hooks to the face and still fighting like that the mans got the heart of a lion . cheers for this uploader
I was a little boy at the time and when I woke the next morning for school and ran to the TV for the news I was devestated! Superman was beaten! My whole family cried. But did you see Ali's manhood, refusing to go down in the 11th? And when he did go down in the 15th, how he woke straight up and banged back in the 15th? This dude is truly the GOAT. Had it not been for the layoff, Joe would have had to do this in the 1960s and Ali would have got his azz.
Oh God! After comming back from the 11th round battering look at Ali make that tremendous mistake lowering his right hand for the uppercut and Joe luckily take advantage by happening to throw the hook at the same time! Dammit!!!! History would have been different otherwise!
You can play fight night 4 Ali vs. Frazier and it doesnt even compare to the real battle. This fight is probably the best fight I've ever seen. And I wasn't even born yet when this was going down.
@bradfordpestservices. Agreed. You're hittin the nail on the head in every one of your posts. @stk0789 No offense but Ali never wanted his gloves cut or to quit a fight...ever. Not even his last two fights in 1980 when the symptoms of parkinsons had already started taking effect on him and when he was gettin beaten particularly hard from a much younger and brain damage-free Larry Holmes...Angelo Dundee had to call it for him for the safety of and the saving of his life.
@breastmilkgaysexs I agree. Ali would never ask to have his gloves taken off. If he went 14 rounds with Joe in the 3rd fight, whats 1 more round?! A serious prime Ali was the best heavyweight ever, and would have beaten any other heavyweight of any era. People talk about Holmes. No way Holmes wouldve beaten a prime Ali. Ali knew all the tricks, and wouldve used every one of them, if necessary, to beat Holmes, Tyson, or any other heavyweight ever.
@WingnutDishwasher If Max Schmelling could beat Louis, Ali could. Louis moved in slo-mo compared to Ali. Ali wouldve thrown rapid shots against Louis. In fact, I bet it wouldve been a mismatch. I think a prime Ali wouldve made Louis look foolish.
@bradfordpestservices Well Louis figured out right away why Schmelling beat him, and we all know what happened when he corrected it. Look it Billy Conn, he was quick and fast. Granted, nowhere near as good as Ali, but look what an out of shape, exhausted Joe Louis did to Billy Conn. I don't know, it would be a hell of a fight either way. If Ali won it sure would be close.
@WingnutDishwasher slo mo Louis wouldnt have a chance the way i see it. Ali wouldnt just stand there and let Louis hit him. His speed, reflexes, footwork, great ability to tie opponents up, iron jaw, etc would be too much for Louis. Just my opinion
@bradfordpestservices. I 100% completely agree with you. Holmes? please, get all the boxers in their prime, Ali will beat them all. especially before the 3yrs break
wow, frazier is the man for beating the bigger opponent. when you have a shorter reach, it's really tough to beat your opponent. especially an opponent like Muhammad Ali!
Some people don't know this, but if the 3rd fight had gone to the 15th Ali wanted his gloves cut off because he was exhausted from hitting Joe all night to no avail. Joe Frazier... BLIND mind you... was telling his corner not to stop it, and that he could get him. Had the ref and doctors not called the fight for the fear of Joe's safety, it would have been a Frazier TKO. RIP Joe Frazier, you crazy, courageous, hard mother fucker.
@stk0789 You're trippin. Ali wasnt a quitter. Ali was never knocked out for a count of 10 his whole career, so why would he be TKO'd against Joe in Manila?! Had it gone to the 15th, Ali probably wouldve KO'd or TKO'd Joe. Or at the very least continue to give Joe a beating.
@bradfordpestservices The fight in Manilla was a bruising battle. Joe lost but he went out partying afterwards while Ali spent a week recovering from his beating Joe laid on him.
@34craigjan Joe and Chuvalo partying after their fights with Ali?? Yeah, right. Look at what Ali did to their faces. If they went partying i bet they wore sunglasses or a mask. Im sure they both spent some time with a doctor themselves.
@bradfordpestservices Man you are right! After this fight everyone knows Joe went straight to the hospital (not no party) for a 3 week stay for high blood pressure and kidney problems complicated by a closed eye and knotted up left jaw. Joe was messed up. A party? Whoa! never heard this lie before. Wasn't no party for Frazier.
Classsic fight. I love Ali, but this is what happens when you don't respect your opponent and take him seriously. I don't think this fight was ever as close as history wants to make it. Ali was in serious trouble several times, almost was out on his feet in the 11th, just took a beating by Frazier. Joe was never really in trouble. Ali racked up many points with his trademark jab but Joe was the aggressor throughout the entire fight he won it hands down.
jerzeyhustla23: No "split" amongst Judges, Mercante, MSG crowd, bxng critics, Ring Mag, & Ali HIMSELF - stated sev'l. x's in early/mid 80's in i-views w/ NBC & ABC - said Joe clearly won the fight. Notice the holdng, neck-grabbng, clinching by Ali...by today's rules, Ali would've lost by bigger gap &
also, we often judge great champions by their opponents. even ali had some setups, but not almost every bloody so called championship fight. derek chisora worthy of a title fight? i don't think so. a game lad, but undeserving. didn't tyson fury beat him clearly?
TheAtchey 6 hours ago
the only fight that klitschko will be remembered for is the one he lost to lennox lewis. a full on brawl, but lennox did the business, as they say. klitschko was unlucky with the cut, but lennox gutted it out when the going got tough.
TheAtchey 6 hours ago
quit on the stool against chris byrd ... no ali. would ali have quit on the stool? Boxing is as much about the mental and skills as it is about height and size. mike tyson proved that.
TheAtchey 6 hours ago
Why are we comparing klitschko to ali? klitschko couldn't have beaten a prime george foreman!
TheAtchey 6 hours ago
who won
LegoUltimateFighter 2 days ago
that was boxing!!!!!!!!!!!
zaostrog 3 days ago
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i watch many many times this fight and.ali haved won this match,ali haved won 9 rounds and joe 6.butt knock down play role?......i dont know?butt two fights of two real warriors is all time ////greats fights
jedigujjar01 4 days ago
i watch many many times this fight and.ali haved won this match,ali haved won 9 rounds and joe 6.butt knock down play role?......i dont know?butt two fights of two real warriors is all time ////greats fights///////////
jedigujjar01 4 days ago
this is a great fihgt of all time
jedigujjar01 4 days ago
Great Great fight. Saw it in downtown Los Angeles at the Olympic Auditoriam.
Pay per view. Both Ali and Frazier had great hand speed in their prime. The
lay off hurt Ali, and so did Joe. Their third fight was even better. The hand speed
of both these guys was remarkable for heavyweight boxers. The two Greatest of
all Time!!
50Smyth 5 days ago
thumbs up if u think that Joe and Ali would kick Klitschkos asses if they still around today, yeah
jinete2420 1 week ago 16
@jinete2420 haha they would die in the 1st round , 20 kilos lighter and no stopping power.. get some brains
IllusiveMan23 6 days ago
@IllusiveMan23 vs adamek vitali weighed 98 kilos, vs Sosnowski 101.8, Joe vs Ali 101.8 FOR Joe, Ali -Foreman, 99.8 for Ali, If u see them fight in the same weight and you cant appreciate the diffrence in speed, defense, technic,and heart, that's in your head, everybody knows that this fight is one of the best of all boxing time, I dont see that in any Klitschco's fights what make u think that if they could fight vitali would weight 120 and them 100? and you asked ME for brains?
jinete2420 5 days ago
@jinete2420 vitali's avrage weight per match is 105kg and ali's 92, vitali is 2.00m and ali 1.90.. wtf are you talking about... -.- results in sports today go higher, world records get beaten all thanks to modern food diet,proteins and way of training , you cannot compare a car from 1970's and a bmw from 2010... we can only speculate but the facts are clear...
IllusiveMan23 4 days ago
@IllusiveMan23 oh as they used to fight 15 rounds than 12 today, Im comparing their performance in about 100 kgs as they all has fought, I dont understand why u insist in the weight diffrence, height is not all, (Haye-Valuev, Tyson-many boxers etc.) about food and steroids plus point 4 them, sure pal whatever u say, that's just opinions, fact is Klitschko's never gonna get renown or make legendary fights as the 70's heaviweight american boxers that's 4 sure
jinete2420 4 days ago
@jinete2420 oh i'm afraid it's impossible ;) frazier is dead ;( and ali was suffering from Parkinson's
TheRryy26 3 days ago
@jinete2420 they would make Klitschkos their bitches :)
zaostrog 3 days ago
@jinete2420 Klitschkos doesnt deserve to be in the same sentence as them
GangGreen80 2 days ago
@jinete2420 Let's be realistic. Let me start by saying that Ali is my favorite boxer ever. But the sport has evolved so much since Ali and Frazier that not only would the Klitschkos win, but so would some of today's lesser fighters. Ali was indeed the catalyst and the mold for the evolution of boxing for the past fifty years, but he was only a small part of where it is today. Boxers today train and fight different due to advancements in the health and science fields involved.
FightsFan82 1 day ago
Man I wish boxing organization were able to release old fights with good quality on DVD lol
KoolGNasBlackThought 1 week ago
stupid refs didnt count half of fraziers body shots
vaginaflypaper 1 week ago
1hour orgasm
samlarsson14 1 week ago
@samlarsson14 agree) not that modern box...
RestTonight 1 week ago
This was the Fight of the Century. Dont know why the 3d fight in Manila seems to stick in the public's mind more
loyaldude10 1 week ago
From somebody not studied in boxing, I would guess Ali would have to have undoubtedly won the fight to take the title from Joe. It looked like Ali won several rounds by out boxing Joe, but it also looked like Joe won several rounds with hard hits. Throw the knockdown of Ali in there, and also the frequent clinching by Ali as well, and you can see why the outcome was what it was. Very fun fight to watch =)
Mithuulion 1 week ago
i find this much better than the UFC just saying.
NeroRome 2 weeks ago
@NeroRome its a completely different sport, just saying.....
BiggieSmalls11111 1 week ago
R.I.P Joe,
You won the next 2 fights aswell, people just don't realize
IamKurdSon 2 weeks ago
@IamKurdSon oh ya and the fight against foreman lol
324582782 1 week ago
Does any one notice that the ref doesn't wear latex gloves, and the announcers don't arm chair quarter back the fight, they actually just tell it like it is rather than act as if they were in the fight as the commentators do today. Oh, the good ol' days. Btw no faint station logo in the corner either. I just love the way T.V used to be good.
rrhorse12 2 weeks ago 9
@rrhorse12 No doubt, there is nothing more entertaining than the big boxing matches of yesterday!
FightsFan82 1 day ago
thats you!!!!what are you like 15 years old.get off here and go have momma change them dirty diapers you big baby.stick with video games.
blutobelushi 2 weeks ago
(End of 15th announcer) "Joe Frazier seems to be sick in his corner". {Ali almost killed his ass} They say this fight should be judged on a rounds basis, name the rounds Joe beat Ali in. I say Ali won rounds 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 9, 10, 12, and 14. Joe just won rounds 6, 11 (BIG!), 13 and 15 (BIG), and round 8 EVEN: Ali 10, Joe 4, 1 even; Ali is correct; on a point system, on a rounds basis, how does a 15th round knockdown supersede a 10 round Ali advantage? That dispells the Ali Favored MYTH.
MrPerryrice 2 weeks ago
@MrPerryrice Yeah exactly, I had Ali winning this fight too. I think they didn't want Ali to win this fight.
324582782 1 week ago
I was born in the 60's so I lived through that period and I have to admit i got caught up in the whole ali hype. I have to say though when having looked at the documentary about his relationship with Fraser, the thriller in manilla, I think some of what ali did and said was pretty shitty. He treated Frazier like garbage and for no reason. He was an asshole and he got a lot of decisions that he shouln't have because of who he was.
elknobomucho 2 weeks ago
@elknobomucho I too was born in 1960, &Ali's struggle was as much a human &civil rights struggle as any during that time, &our family followed it, &we know of it &we remember it- & it was not even mentioned in the Thrilla Documentary that unduly casts Frazier as an innocent victim undeserving of Ali's ridiculing, &Ali as an unprovoked ogre calling Joe a gorilla as though Ali was mocking Joe's Africoid features-something Ali would never do. Boxing myths come from such Docs as this telling one-...
MrPerryrice 2 weeks ago
...side,incompletions,or misunderstandings of a vast story in order to fit it into a time frame,a budget,or even a political agenda. In most probability the truth wound up on the cutting room floor. Ali's Religious name was Muhammad Ali, his U.S.Government name was Ali, yet to mock him,to disturb &disrespect him,Joe never had the decency to call him Ali; to provoke him Joe publicly called him the now offensive & rejected slave name of "CLAY," an unwarranted,vicious attack upon a proud Muslim &..
MrPerryrice 2 weeks ago
...Ali fought back;he called Joe a Gorilla,but no reference to Joe's Black looks as the media portrays it, it was merely a reference to Joe's fighting style as a dumb,vicious, smashed-in nosed,hairy knuckled brute,like boxers of the day were carciatured in cartoons,regardless of race.Plus Ali beat a champ for the title,the U.S.unjustly took it, & Joe gleefully wound up with it without beating a champ? What should Ali have said when Joe called him "CLAY"? Learn the whole story, not the mythe.
MrPerryrice 2 weeks ago
thrilla in manila
alboooze 2 weeks ago
Great Joe Frazier is a beast tho. damn he can take punches, he just keep coming. Other fighters will have quit throw jabs out of frustration for not knocking him down. But with the greatness in Ali, he kept going.
aksyn47 2 weeks ago
How on earth does Frazier take it during the first rounds? No wonder he fell apart so easily against Foreman, the kind of punishment Ali delivered early in the fight would have left a lesser man completely mentally aswell as physicly deranged.
MrLoveahl 2 weeks ago
@MrLoveahl Right, Right.
MrPerryrice 2 weeks ago
fuck don king
Moosiah206 2 weeks ago
joe frazier este loko eraa el mejor para mi
chikymerk2 2 weeks ago
Ali was past his prime
Westsidecali13 2 weeks ago
He would have won Manila if not for the great Angie Dundee.RIP I love you Joe...RIP
blutobelushi 2 weeks ago
@blutobelushi Stop believing boxing myths;no force on earth was gonna keep Ali on that stool & let the already defeated &destroyed,defenseless,offenseless arche enemy Joe Frazier take his title by default.Listen to Ali's doctor Ferdie who said that Joe would have gotten killed had he come out for the 15th. He's Ali's doctor in the corner & he said Ali was coming out.Don't believe the boxing mythology. Ali worked his whole life to prove he was all man;he wasn't quitting even tho he felt like it.
MrPerryrice 2 weeks ago
@MrPerryrice Experts say both men were near death.Joe was beating Ali for awhile until Angelo Dundee RIP altered the battleplan."defeated,destroyed,defenseless offenseless" proves you have no respect for a late great champion and are a mutt.RIP Joe .....Ali respected Joe.he said neither one of them would have been the men they were without each other.what you dont know about boxing would fill the ocean.
blutobelushi 2 weeks ago
@blutobelushi Both were near death,but Ali had a doctor in his corner (more qualified to speak on their conditions than you) who said he feared only one man's death, Joe's, had Joe come out that corner for the 15th. In rounds 13 &14 Joe couldn't hit Ali, or stop being hit, he couldn't see anymore, had no more energy, &was offenseless, defenseless &destroyed (what fight were you watching?), & the 15th would have killed him according to Ali's doctor & apparently Joe's trainer too who stopped it.
MrPerryrice 1 week ago
jeryd203: Alright, omnipotent one. In whut year did Joe Frazier lose 63% of his vision in one eye? Do Frazier fans use that excuse? In 71', Ali hd fawt sev'l. bouts & hd EVERY opp 2 bring best vs Joe. Ali ws in vry good condition, sport. A 1 & 1/2 eyed JF kicked his ass! 10-5 JF. Wld've been wider if ref had taken pts away (as is dun today, btw) 4 Ali's consnt holdng/grabbing @ holdng around neck. Ali did same shit in othr 2 bouts between them.
3244gorilla 3 weeks ago
@3244gorilla Do you not know that Ali admitted that he had underestimated Joe's ability, & gone into the fight prepared to go just 10 rounds with Joe crumbling inside of 10? And that he was not conditioned for more? And that Ali promised next time he'd have staminia to beat Joe's ass for 15, and did it twice (the last a TKO)? And Joe was so hysterical about ducking the much called for rematch,that he foolishly ran headlong into George Foreman rather than risk his title again against the1972 Ali?
MrPerryrice 2 weeks ago
AllanHelpsKlitshko: All I can say is, "seriously, sport"??? U r either doing polydrug use, undr the age of 30, know nothng of our involvement in Vietnam, r clueless as 2 the multipliciity of factors tht spurred withdrawal, or ur "Ali ws the main reason" tht ended our participation in Vietnam claim is simply a reflection of ur STUPIDITY! Take "Intro. to American History 101 again (ltfol).
3244gorilla 3 weeks ago
The announcer who shouts "ROUND x" sounds just like Larry David.
davidfox1983 3 weeks ago
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Muhammad Ali was the main force that turned the USA population against the war! Of course Ali managed to get his boxing license back in 1970 and just a few yrs later(1973) Ali managed to make the USA pull out of the Vietnam war!
If it wasn't for Ali, then the reatrded USA would have supported the Vietnam war, just like today they supported the war against Libya, Africa etc
As a matter of a fact even Angelina Jolie supported the war against Libya
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AllahHelpsKlitschko 3 weeks ago
thumbs up if you just skiped to the end :)
jlw851997 3 weeks ago
people question how frazier was able to absorb alis punches, the answer lies in the 3 & 1/2 years off without trainning. alis strength was less and his quickness was less. in fact frazier look stronger and quicker.
jeryd2003 3 weeks ago
this is an uncomfortable fight to watch towards the end. So much damage! Nobody can shrug off that kind of damage, so many blows, and we saw this later in their lives. How Frazier was so tough I'll never understand.
CasparWilson 3 weeks ago
how did Frazier take so much punishment? The sheer number of solid hits to the head he absorbs is ridiculous. Its incredible, almost scary - like the Terminator, he can't be stopped!
CasparWilson 3 weeks ago
Up to this battle, nobody had ever punished Ali so much as Frazier did.
perseus07 4 weeks ago 8
@perseus07 Thats more because Ali lost his speed and amazing reflexes after the lay-off. Not to mention came in rusty and somewhat out of shape as he lost steam in the middle rounds so he used the ropes to rest and thats when Frazier landed.
vladiator100 1 week ago
@perseus07 Well isn't this one of those battles Ali said he would dance less to show everyone that he could take damage? :)
M0RN3R 5 days ago
No doubt the best boxing fight of all times
perseus07 4 weeks ago
@perseus07 Yes, sir. The greatest ever.
mikeythompson7777 3 weeks ago
ali should of worked on body shots
apo123321 4 weeks ago
smokeweed11: Yeah, that's correct. It's actually the most accurate scoring of this fight, invlvng vital elements to win rounds. 1) Aggressor in EVERY rnd. 2) Twice the amt of brutal powr punches landed. 3) Judge prbly fctrd in Ali's incessnt holding/grabbng Joe's neck & clinchng/hldng 2 slow down attax (by today's stndrds, Ref wld dedct mltple pts aftr sev'l. warnngs). 4) 11th rnd is10-8 - cnstnt, brutal powr punches & near KD/KO 5) 15th rnd is 10-8. 11-4 & 10-4-1 (my score) are approprte score
3244gorilla 1 month ago
Ali had a better chin than joe but I don't think having a good chin is anything to brag about. It just means you'll have a higher chance of long term brain damage in the log run cause you never stay down. Brain and kidneys can't be toughened up to absorb punishment like other parts I the body. When they get hit you loose. Period.
IASOU2005 1 month ago
Ali jacked up frazier's face but the damage was more superficial, it eventually healed back to somewhat normal like a human being. Ali suffered permanent damage from his fights, although it wasn't evident until late 76 early 77.
IASOU2005 1 month ago
2:53, Ali feels Joe's power for the 1st time 4:00, for the 2nd time. I think Ali thought he was going to be much stronger than Joe. I think it suprised him that the smaller man could be so strong.
blite13 1 month ago
Why does it appear ali landed more punches?
Triangulove 1 month ago
@Triangulove Are you saying Ali won this fight? I think that's already been settled, even Ali admitted that Joe won this fight. Maybe Ali landed the more flashy punches but if you turn up your volume, you will hear Joe lands the much heavier punches.
blite13 1 month ago
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Triangulove 1 month ago
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@blite13
To me it looked like ali landed more punches, especially in flurries. And that is kind of evidenced by the condition of fraziers face after the fight. He didn't even look that way after the foreman fight. Heavier punches or not ali landed more of them, it seems. But I am not disputing the decision, as it would be pointless, I mean this fight was long before I was even born, but I find it historically curious.
Triangulove 1 month ago
@blite13 Have you forgotten that Ali and the announcers admitted, and even when I view it, I say Ali won at least 10 rounds? How does 1 knockdown and 4 rounds win a 15 round fight? Right. It ain't supposed to.
MrPerryrice 2 weeks ago
@Triangulove Because he damn well did. Are you blind. Ali clearly won 10 rounds to, giving Joe all the ones in doubt, 5. The knockdown is the only thing that saved Joes title. Are you blind? No more of this stupid talk about Ali was gifted fights. Watch superfight and judge round by round. Ali 10, I say, Joe 5 (though I judge rnd 8 even).
MrPerryrice 2 weeks ago
The exchange from 51:55 to the end of the round is just, leaves me speechless. Both these guys had tremendous hearts.
Triangulove 1 month ago
People wonder why Ali didn't dance...just watch Rd 5 ...Joe was cutting him down, Ali HAD TO FIGHT, Joe made him fight. No way Ali would have made the distanhce if he tried to dance all night.
blite13 1 month ago
@blite13 This whole fight happened for one stupid reason: Ali's arrogance to think he didn't have to train for 15 rounds, that Joe would crumble inside of ten, &he could prove to the world he could stand flat footed in four rounds and out slug a slugger. That's it. Had Ali been in his right mind, he would not have exhausted himself flat footed slugging with Joe rounds 1 through 5; he'd have stayed away and boxed his ears off just as he did in the 1974 fight where Joe couldn't touch him.
MrPerryrice 2 weeks ago
Ali's punches look good and have a snap, but Joe's punches do heavy damage. Joe was hurting Ali right from Rd 1. Ali slapping a lot...I've watched this fight many times but always see it different each time. This version is one of the cleanest as far as recognizing the power and of the punches and who lands cleanly. Dunphy is scoring punches for Ali that are being deflected or slipped by Frazier. In RD3. Dunphy also forgets to mention that most fighters would have been KOed by those lefts of Joe
blite13 1 month ago
@blite13
The thing is Fraziers face was always more bruised up at the end of their fights, includhing this one.
Triangulove 1 month ago
@Triangulove Joe was a puffer, his face was puffed after most his fights. But Ali punished his face....also, back then, they didn't use enswell and it would let Joe get puffed. Joe also shot mucus out of his nose between Rds, Angelo said that causes the face to puff up. If you watch the fight closely and not listen to Dunphy give his onesided account of Ali's punches landing, you can see Joe catches a lot with his gloves and rolls with a punch.Joe also was dehydrated=kidney problem.
blite13 1 month ago
@blite13
But ali's face didn't look nearly as bad after the fight. I know not all of his punches landed, but a considerable amount of them did. I would say, of all the punches ali threw, about 80% of them appear to have landed. Of all the punches Frazier threw, 60% of them appeared to land.
Triangulove 1 month ago
@Triangulove Obviously you have a hard time with percentages.
blite13 1 month ago
@blite13
I'm not sure about that, but I do know that I see ali landing a heck of a lot of punches. That's not to say frazier did not win or have the upper hand here, but ali definitely bombarded him quite a few times.
Triangulove 4 weeks ago
@Triangulove Yeah, Ali landed some doozies, but Joe won the fight....glad we agree.
blite13 4 weeks ago
@Triangulove Yeah, but was he hospitalized on his damn death bead? The announcer said Fraizier was sick in his corner; you excuse makers are the pits; but was Joe in the hospital for months after those fights as he was against Ali? Not even Foreman beat Joe as Ali did. Why discredit Ali this way? I do not understand you guys. Even in defeat Ali whipped his ass terribly, outpointed him, and won more rounds in the first fight. You all are pathetic, and don't know scoring.
MrPerryrice 2 weeks ago
@MrPerryrice
I think you misquoted, I was the one speaking against those who try to discredit or reduce the stature of Ali I think, despite the one loss to frazier, that Ali still got the better of him in that fight, with the exception of round 11.
Triangulove 2 weeks ago
@Triangulove Oh No! You are absolutely right, I messed up. I meant to aim that comment at blite13. My Bad. Plus I outright misunderstood an earlier comment of yours and foolishly shot at you that time too. Let me off the hook, OK?
MrPerryrice 1 week ago
@MrPerryrice
Okay, I shall not do the ali shuffle at this time. You are forgiven.
Triangulove 1 week ago
@Triangulove Wheew! Thank God; cuz once the Ali Shuffle appears...death soon follows. Thank you.
MrPerryrice 1 week ago
@MrPerryrice
I wouldn't say death, but damage control will definitely need a call.
Triangulove 1 week ago
@MrPerryrice Joe was in the hospital for weeks after this fight because of a kidney problem. Joe had the problem during this fight and was totally dehydrated at the end of the fight.
blite13 1 week ago
@blite13 Funny, Joe wasn't in the hospital for all these ailments before the fight was he? I guess his needing treatment for all these things afterwards had nothing to do with Ali giving him the worst beating of his life (dispite Joe getting the decision),restructuring his face & reshaping his head? I suppose all that damage wouldn't have run his pressure up, exacerbated his kidney problems, or dehydrated him to the point of hospitalization and near death? Sure, Ali had nothing to do with it.
MrPerryrice 1 week ago
@MrPerryrice So the Dr's who said joes Kidney's were all messed up, were lying? When did they have to restructure his face?, Joe was a 'puffer', his face always puffed up, mainly because he would shoot air through his nose to clear his sinus. Dundee even said that, it would cause the swelling. Add to the fact that they didn't use enswell back then and Joe always had a swelled face after a fight. 15 RDs of bruising action would swell even Ali's face? Ali took the beating of his life2
blite13 1 week ago
@blite13 Fair enough, Joe had kidney problems, but they didn't have him hospitalized until after the fight. I wonder why? Joe was a puffer for one reason, he lead with his head and absorbed punches that puffed him up; he even took beatings in many of his victories, he puffed from punches, not his breathing. Ali didn't use enswell either and only his haw swelled...from Joes punches, not Ali's breathing. Yes,15 rounds swelled & damaged both their faces, & yes, Ali took the beating of his life too.
MrPerryrice 1 week ago
@MrPerryrice How does getting punched in the face cause high bood pressure and kidney problems? Ali never once punched Joe in the midsection, how could Ali cause Joe's kidney problems?
blite13 1 week ago
@blite13 Any injuries, stress, wounds, swelling, like both of Joes eyes, both sides of his head was knotted up, & the huge knot on his left jaw, the busted lips and cuts inside his mouth all can cause high blood pressure. Plus I never said Ali caused Joe's high blood pressure, although he did raise it to the deathly rate it reached that night;how is it even debatable that fighting Ali caused his hospitalization? Jeez. Healing wounds require a raise blood pressure; Joe had plenty wounds that nite
MrPerryrice 1 week ago
...and all of that stuff would exacerbate an already bad set of kidneys because the kidneys would really suffer trying to strain all that waste generated by so many injuries all at once. Injuries fill the blood with waste material &Joe's already bad kidneys simply couldn't handle the job of filtering the overload out of Joe's blood system. This is not rocket science you know? Ali put Joe in the hospital for 3 weeks- it's not that big of a deal to accept. Why all these excuses for Joe denying it?
MrPerryrice 1 week ago
@MrPerryrice Are you gay? How can you think you can score a HW championship if you are gay? You are too busy watching Ali's ass to even see that Joe is putting a hurting on Ali every round. You give Rds to Ali when he is on the ropes and holding? I'm glad you aren't allowed to score fights as a judge, then everyone would know that it is a sham. You just some assclown trying to be a man...you have a long way to go, girly boy.
blite13 1 week ago
@blite13 Is your old ass gay? How can you think you can score a championship fight if you are too busy looking for gays rather than concerning yourself with the number of punches landed and the damage Ali caused Frazier on a rounds and points basis? You'd have noticed if you weren't watching Ali's ass, you old queen (you actually brought up Ali's ass?). And as wrinkled, puckered, and sunken-in as your ugly old face is I'm glad to know you don't have very long to go, 'ole girly boy.
MrPerryrice 1 week ago
@MrPerryrice Get your own material, I checked your page and you liked a vid of gays who danced around in women's clothes...so, it seems that you like them for some reason?
blite13 1 week ago
@blite13 You obviously enjoy talking about gays since you raised the issue twice; and you obviously enjoy your discussions with me even though you think I am gay; therefore let me put it this way: If I am gay and my liking a gay video reveals it, then you are gay for engaging me in these conversations and liking it, and for raising the gay issue in a boxing conversation in the first place. And maybe you even liked the video too. All I know is it "seems" you're too interested in gays yourself.
MrPerryrice 1 week ago
Smokin' Joe Frazier! My favorite heavyweight of the 70s. Best left hook of all time!
SuperStrik9 1 month ago
fought the wrong fight here he got his revenge later....
B04Jordan 1 month ago
Its unbelievable how Ali walked through those heave Frazier left hooks like they didn't hurt. And how he is able to stand up after that vicious knockdown. He had the best heart of all champs in my opinion.
mrhsking 1 month ago
Happy Birthday Clay
naturalthing1 1 month ago
Did one of the judges score it 11-4 for Joe?
smokeweed11 1 month ago
the sequence from 36:30 to 36:45 was a tough 15 seconds for Joe. Look at the double left hook combination by Ali. This was a vicious battle!
Zerrick80 1 month ago
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9:56 THEY JUST CAME OUT IN THE 3RD ROUND AND STARTED THROWING BOMBS AT EACH OTHER! LOOK AT THE LEFT HOOKS THAT BOTH OF THEM CAUGHT RIGHT HERE.
Zerrick80 1 month ago
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Zerrick80 1 month ago
WHY COULDNT WE HEAR ALI & FRAZIER TALKING TO EACH OTHER BEFORE THEY TOUCHED GLOVES? THE MIC WAS DIRECTLY IN BETWEEN THEM
Zerrick80 1 month ago
you really don't get heavyweight boxing like this anymore
angryish 1 month ago
This will forever be known as the greatest fight in boxing history. They gave us everything they had. Blood, sweat, tears the whole nine yards. After the fight, Ali said, "it was the closes to death I've ever been". Now here we are thirty something years later. Ali just recently turned forty. And the late great Joe Frazier has passed away. Like I said. This will be known as the greatest fight in boxing history. Ali said that Frazier was the only boxer to talk back. Best boxing fight.
GreenLantern771 1 month ago
@GreenLantern771 I believe Ali made that statement on their third fight, Thrilla in Manila.
julescost 1 month ago
@julescost Really. Well people do consider this the greatest boxing fight ever. And it was. They just don't have boxing like this anymore. Do they?
GreenLantern771 1 month ago
@GreenLantern771 RECENTLY TURNED 40???? THAT MUST HAVE BEEN A TYPO. ALSO, THE "CLOSEST TO DEATH" STATEMENT THAT ALI MADE WAS AFTER THE 3RD FIGHT. THE THRILLA IN MANILLA.
Zerrick80 1 month ago
@Zerrick80 I didn't say anybody turned 40. And yes. I knew Ali said that. Everybody heard it.
GreenLantern771 1 month ago
@GreenLantern771 I do like thrilla a little better; could be cause of the outcome though. Far as I'm concerned, on a rounds by rounds basius, Ali is 3 and o versus Joe.
MrPerryrice 2 weeks ago
classic
locusp2k 1 month ago
I like how around 19:17 the commentator is praising Frazier, completely oblivious to the rapid succession of jabs and rights Ali is landing on Frazier's face.
lifestraight 1 month ago
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Around 19:12 Frazier taunts Ali, and then gets bopped repeatedly. Ali's too fast to be toying with!! lol
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lifestraight 1 month ago
Legend. Nuff said.
Katfishh 1 month ago
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is it me or do you just not see boxing styles like these anymore? they move, they stick, they back up, they weave. not like today's street thug punks who just stand there and wail on each other's head like it's a streetfight in Compton.
jros83 1 month ago
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jros83 1 month ago
Happy Birthday Champ, there was NO ONE greater.
MrMarcel1956 1 month ago
Happy Birthday GOAT!!! You are the proof, that anybody can achieve his greatest dreams, no matter what others say!! God bless you and your family
FreshnHeysan 1 month ago
@FreshnHeysan thx so much urs 2
Blackjesus3 2 weeks ago
@FreshnHeysan YEAH. That's the title, that's the language GOAT.
MrPerryrice 2 weeks ago
HAPPY BIRTHDAY MAN !!!!!!
ORENGEcarot 1 month ago
@ORENGEcarot thx a lot
Blackjesus3 2 weeks ago
such off the hook talent" both these fighters were so dam good" boy what a show they put on for the world so much excitement " talk about giving it everything you got and then some I met Muhammad Ali what a class acted nice guy all smiles:)
RoyElvisBand 1 month ago
happy birthday
TheGsGClan 1 month ago
@TheGsGClan thx u
Blackjesus3 2 weeks ago
should give ali more credit , i mean everyone was like fraziers a tank and yea he did take a beating, got hit by some beautiful combos did u see his face he looked like he got implants , but ali was the man for taking so many of them strong left hooks to the face and still fighting like that the mans got the heart of a lion . cheers for this uploader
itsfuckedup 1 month ago
he always said he was the greatist and so he was . my sporting hero and walter lindrum both bought me huge entertainment thanx guys
TheHarvey57 1 month ago
I was a little boy at the time and when I woke the next morning for school and ran to the TV for the news I was devestated! Superman was beaten! My whole family cried. But did you see Ali's manhood, refusing to go down in the 11th? And when he did go down in the 15th, how he woke straight up and banged back in the 15th? This dude is truly the GOAT. Had it not been for the layoff, Joe would have had to do this in the 1960s and Ali would have got his azz.
MrPerryrice 1 month ago
Oh God! After comming back from the 11th round battering look at Ali make that tremendous mistake lowering his right hand for the uppercut and Joe luckily take advantage by happening to throw the hook at the same time! Dammit!!!! History would have been different otherwise!
MrPerryrice 1 month ago
muhammad ali is the best!!!
davidsonsk79 1 month ago
The ENTIRE fight is here?!! YouTube is the absolute BEST!
emike1211 1 month ago
You can play fight night 4 Ali vs. Frazier and it doesnt even compare to the real battle. This fight is probably the best fight I've ever seen. And I wasn't even born yet when this was going down.
CHTWillCome723 1 month ago
best fight in history
crazygangstanhl 1 month ago
Im watching this fight as if it was today!!
LADYKEO 1 month ago
Frazier was like a freight train that never stopped coming at you.
34craigjan 1 month ago
ALI IS THE GREATEST, NO ONE WILL EVER BE AS GOOD, EVER! YOU HEARD ME? LIKE DIS SO OTHERS CAN SEE!
rami2095 1 month ago
Legend vs. Legend
odnetnin206 1 month ago
The best 2 boxers of all time. Frazier is incredible and so his ali.
heiio66 1 month ago
But yes, Frazier gave him the best fights of his life. Both these men will always be the greatest champions in history of the sport.
breastmilkgaysexs 1 month ago 18
@breastmilkgaysexs don't forget bruce lee lol
TehFlamed 4 weeks ago
@bradfordpestservices. Agreed. You're hittin the nail on the head in every one of your posts. @stk0789 No offense but Ali never wanted his gloves cut or to quit a fight...ever. Not even his last two fights in 1980 when the symptoms of parkinsons had already started taking effect on him and when he was gettin beaten particularly hard from a much younger and brain damage-free Larry Holmes...Angelo Dundee had to call it for him for the safety of and the saving of his life.
breastmilkgaysexs 1 month ago
@breastmilkgaysexs I agree. Ali would never ask to have his gloves taken off. If he went 14 rounds with Joe in the 3rd fight, whats 1 more round?! A serious prime Ali was the best heavyweight ever, and would have beaten any other heavyweight of any era. People talk about Holmes. No way Holmes wouldve beaten a prime Ali. Ali knew all the tricks, and wouldve used every one of them, if necessary, to beat Holmes, Tyson, or any other heavyweight ever.
bradfordpestservices 1 month ago 5
@bradfordpestservices I don't think he could have beaten Louis. Any other heavyweight, sure.
WingnutDishwasher 1 month ago
@WingnutDishwasher If Max Schmelling could beat Louis, Ali could. Louis moved in slo-mo compared to Ali. Ali wouldve thrown rapid shots against Louis. In fact, I bet it wouldve been a mismatch. I think a prime Ali wouldve made Louis look foolish.
bradfordpestservices 1 month ago
@bradfordpestservices Well Louis figured out right away why Schmelling beat him, and we all know what happened when he corrected it. Look it Billy Conn, he was quick and fast. Granted, nowhere near as good as Ali, but look what an out of shape, exhausted Joe Louis did to Billy Conn. I don't know, it would be a hell of a fight either way. If Ali won it sure would be close.
WingnutDishwasher 1 month ago
@WingnutDishwasher slo mo Louis wouldnt have a chance the way i see it. Ali wouldnt just stand there and let Louis hit him. His speed, reflexes, footwork, great ability to tie opponents up, iron jaw, etc would be too much for Louis. Just my opinion
bradfordpestservices 1 month ago
@bradfordpestservices. I 100% completely agree with you. Holmes? please, get all the boxers in their prime, Ali will beat them all. especially before the 3yrs break
aksyn47 2 weeks ago
@magikko. Lol that was a nice move, and a very smart move if he wants to stick around to ref the rest of the fight :p
breastmilkgaysexs 1 month ago
wow, frazier is the man for beating the bigger opponent. when you have a shorter reach, it's really tough to beat your opponent. especially an opponent like Muhammad Ali!
mrostos 1 month ago
Some people don't know this, but if the 3rd fight had gone to the 15th Ali wanted his gloves cut off because he was exhausted from hitting Joe all night to no avail. Joe Frazier... BLIND mind you... was telling his corner not to stop it, and that he could get him. Had the ref and doctors not called the fight for the fear of Joe's safety, it would have been a Frazier TKO. RIP Joe Frazier, you crazy, courageous, hard mother fucker.
stk0789 1 month ago
@stk0789 You're trippin. Ali wasnt a quitter. Ali was never knocked out for a count of 10 his whole career, so why would he be TKO'd against Joe in Manila?! Had it gone to the 15th, Ali probably wouldve KO'd or TKO'd Joe. Or at the very least continue to give Joe a beating.
bradfordpestservices 1 month ago
@bradfordpestservices The fight in Manilla was a bruising battle. Joe lost but he went out partying afterwards while Ali spent a week recovering from his beating Joe laid on him.
34craigjan 1 month ago
@34craigjan Joe and Chuvalo partying after their fights with Ali?? Yeah, right. Look at what Ali did to their faces. If they went partying i bet they wore sunglasses or a mask. Im sure they both spent some time with a doctor themselves.
bradfordpestservices 1 month ago
@bradfordpestservices Man you are right! After this fight everyone knows Joe went straight to the hospital (not no party) for a 3 week stay for high blood pressure and kidney problems complicated by a closed eye and knotted up left jaw. Joe was messed up. A party? Whoa! never heard this lie before. Wasn't no party for Frazier.
MrPerryrice 1 month ago
Ali might be the greatest, but Frazier's heart is the greatest.
2blown2know 1 month ago
fraizer is a tank
ExodussFTW 1 month ago
00:24:57 referee spin.
magikko 1 month ago
This fight is the reason I got into boxing
BigGayBear2007 1 month ago
Classsic fight. I love Ali, but this is what happens when you don't respect your opponent and take him seriously. I don't think this fight was ever as close as history wants to make it. Ali was in serious trouble several times, almost was out on his feet in the 11th, just took a beating by Frazier. Joe was never really in trouble. Ali racked up many points with his trademark jab but Joe was the aggressor throughout the entire fight he won it hands down.
peteberwick 1 month ago
jerzeyhustla23: No "split" amongst Judges, Mercante, MSG crowd, bxng critics, Ring Mag, & Ali HIMSELF - stated sev'l. x's in early/mid 80's in i-views w/ NBC & ABC - said Joe clearly won the fight. Notice the holdng, neck-grabbng, clinching by Ali...by today's rules, Ali would've lost by bigger gap &