Complete garbage. That "sword" would be better off being sent to the scrap yard and smelted into something that isn't worthless. You need a blacksmithed sword comprised of hard and soft materials mixed together by hammer and folded to create a strong durable sword that won't bend, crack or shatter.
a very general tip:If you want to buy a real sword, breathe onto it when it's cold. If you see a pattern that looks like waves of the ocean it's real. If you don't it's not.
Smithed swords are considerably stronger than this as the grain of the metal is followed and more careful tempering can be achieved resulting in a stronger, more flexible sword
i was searching for a video about a REAL BLACKSMITH making one. not a damn machine. i'm getting educadet as a blacsmith in a half year and i tought it would be funny to learn a few things first xD haha
There you see the swordsmith that makes the designs for Albion swords (in the video above), sure in that two videos he makes a messer (knife) rather than a sword.
That is true for most of history. But this is a late medieval sword and then the pommel usually is a counter weight. This is a kind of sword that is more thrusting oriented than your normal sword.
1:26 . how does he control this process ? i mean this a very complicated task, if you put it with a little wrong angle , the edges will not be geometrically straight and right. when i sharpen blades - this is my main problem ! maybe i lack the skills or something?
@PhilipVII : While smithing is nice, it doesn't make the sword any less of a sword, quality wise, assuming it is made correctly. That being said I would prefer a correctly smithed sword for authenticity sake.
@PhilipVII is sword smithing continued into the present you would be a smith/engineer. Swordsmithing wasn't about tradition, it was about innovation, advancement of technology and keeping ahead of armor and weapons. Making the traditional sword the way they were is a very admirable craft, but swords need to take more avenues, they need to be advanced again what with the advancement of armor they might make a come back!
@effigytormented yes you are right ! i also think the blades are forgotten not fairly. the combat knives , i think should be replaced in some cases with the roman gladiuses . because for a close combat , gladius would be super extra power
@PhilipVII of course , who's ths foolish that cannot make a sword with machines ?? , i wanna see how the anciente swords were maked , any suggestion bro ?
Amazing how much ignorance still surrounds the blade business. Production made blades can never match the quality of handmades-but the way it is made has no affect on the quality. If a sword has proper dynamic and harmonic balancing, proper hardness, and proper edge geometry..it's a quality sword, doesn't matter how it's made. Going by the vid-this is one of the better production mades out there.
@starwalker97 But it is how you make a sword. Smithing is still around-but besides being traditional and to have more design freedom, there is no reason to smith blades. Stock removal allows you to work with higher quality modern steels.
Swords should be made by hand, especially ones that are to medievally accurate. A machined sword can NOT be in any way accurate to a medieval blade, because medieval swords were made by hand. Also, owning a sword that is exactly the same as thousands of others is not the same as having one that was made for you and is UNIQUE.
I wouldent mind useing this blade but id rather have a hand forged blade nothing and no one will be able to forge a sword to fit a person as good as an old smith
@hellwolf882 to an extent i agree, i am a "Smith" leathersmith, blacksmith, tinsmith,allaround craftsman.
when i need a real good sturdy strong blade, i will fire up the kiln and forge one. If i just need a blade that is functional but will be used in the bush(woods) and may end up lost or gone, then i will cut one out of metal and grind an edge on it...
anything made from yout hands and heart has meaning no matter how crappy or good it is its mad by you and you put effort into it, and if you make somthimg most or entirly out of machinery and no matter how good it is it has no meaning a real one you made or that ws truly made has a good feel or bond to it
LOL I imagine if the Medieval Smiths had the modern equipment their swords would have been made like this... You use what you have and the techniques that were the most modern for the time...
The weapons of the time were made for killing and made as fast as possible to provide weapons for the armies... Back then they had to hand make them because that is what the tech level was...
Admit it peoples , machine built is stronger and efficient than handmade , it's the reason machine is built : To build things more efficient . You guys won't be sitting here you guys will be dead because your house will fall on you when strong wind blows if your house's parts is not machine made . (But then if your house is man made it will be not that big to kill you when it falls huh?) Also I believe pummel also acts as counter weight , pummeling is just a useful side function.
@Akirabone : Actually, machines making is no worse than smithing, and in some instances, is better. As long as the materials are good and it's made and put together correctly, it'll still be a fine sword. That being said I would prefer smithed swords, as they simply feel more genuine.
@bansheemopar Well you are mostly right . It is a proper sword, better than most of the original ones because of the better steel!
But you cant say swords are or are not, because there are so many different forms of swords! Some were made for cutting (eg the katana), some for piercing (like the rapier), some for cleaving (like the roman gladius) and everyone was made for a special purpose and against a special foe´s armor.
I'm an avid sword collector. There is a certain je ne sais quois to a handmade sword, a certain beauty that comes from the blood, sweat, and tears of someone who made the blade. That said, let's be completely honest here: The only reason they originally made swords by hand is because they didn't have this kind of technology available to them way back when. If they did, don't think for a second that they wouldn't rather have been using one of these instead of toiling away over an anvil.
@quicke47 Do I honestly have to know you to harass you? And if "defending yourself" includes doing the exact same thing I'm doing to you, then clearly you are as mature as I am.
@quicke47 Oh we're going to have one of these are we? Well, sorry to burst your bubble, but I was using the second meaning of the word "bitch", words can do that, you know.
@quicke47 Sorry to burst your bubble, but that's EXACTLY what a pommel is. Also, this is a sword. It just isn't handmade. Don't be such a little bitch.
@quicke47 like an original katana folded in japan?ok pay it for 6000 usd and you ve got it.i agree but we cant afford such a thing.Maybe you ll find cheaper swords but who said everything is handforged is also reliable?its a matter of blacksmith.i would buy with great hapiness a cold steel for example sword cause i know its not dangerous to "loose my blade on a swing"and WHEN i ll have some thousands of course i ll buy a hand forged.yeah they re not swords,they re machinery-(great) tools for me
strange: the test cuts looked exactly like some i did with a self-made knive some time ago when it wasn't even sharpened. but this CNC shit propably wouldn't hold a real edge. at least the grip and pommel of this sword seem to be wellmade.
@ishouldplayzelda I find it kinda sad that you take the critisism against this video so personal. For me, these are cheap copies, and for "my 900 bucks", there is no doubt about that i would get a hand made sword.
@quicke47 what is the pommel then, a hammer? if the pommel isn't a counterweight then what is? where is the counterweight on this sword? WHERE THE FUCK IS IT???
@ishouldplayzelda It was a counterweight on late-medievil and later swords, but before then it was just to act as a grip so it didn't slip out of the swordsman's hand and as such was made of light materials. And actually the pommel kinda was a hammer - the phrase 'to pummel' literally meant to hit someone with the pommel of a sword.
@clancy6969 they might have just not filmed it. i'm sure a professional sword making company wouldn't forget something as important as that or maybe they're produced a steel that doesn't need to be tempered?
1. swords are made by sword smiths not blacksmiths
2. i make swords by hand, and a write g and m code, i put just as much thought and love into writing code as a do crafting blades.
3. machined quality spring steel and far superior to anything that can be achieved by ye olde methods.
4. buddy, if you have ever made a sword by hand, and experienced wielding it as you progress in its creation you would know that the pommel's main purpose is to be a counterweight.
@13farseer13 For the record,pommels were used as both a counterweight and a functional part of the weapon, specifically when you didn't have room to swing the whole sword.
@MrPdante You're (mostly) incorrect in your statement that pommels were used as a counterweight with swords. Though they were used in light thrusting swords from the 16th century onwards (i.e. modern fencing foils) where quick recovery was needed from parries, heavier swords designed for chopping and slashing would have their effectiveness severely inhibited by a counterweight, as the blade would be both easier to deflect and would not do as much heavy crushing damage upon a strike.
@Nix6p The pommel is the counterweight to the blade matey, it is also a part of the weapon and can be used to deliver blows, you still need a good counterweight on a medieval sword, the point of balance would be tad farther away from the cross guard than a rapier yes, but it would still be there, Don't get trapped into the modern misconception that medieval swords were not effective for thrusting with, it's the best way to get through mail armour, many later sword have an acute distal taper.
Funny how swords made like this tend to shatter or fall apart a hundred times more often than those that are hand made. Machines still can't duplicate the sharpness of hand made Katana. And having the guard hammered on makes it much more likely to come loose during any strenuous use.
it did not chip? right.. look at the blade in 1:45 , xD och ant I wonder WHY they did that test.. as knights never hit directly into the enemies armor, they tried to stab him where there were no armor..geesh -.-
Dude chill its a reproduction, not an exact replica, and besides just cos its not made like an original doesn't make it crap, do you believe everything should be done the same way as it was first done, like a fork or a light bulb, should we still use leeches to cure diseases. But i agree with the pommel thing. :)
I disagree about the pommel thing. In later european swords like the one in the video, pommels was used as counterweights. At this time you wanted more hiltbalanced swords which are easier to thrust with.
some pretty big calls for traditional methods here. i wonder how fast they would change their mind if they were in a shop buying a sword that they would then take to a war.
i can appreciate that people might want to patron traditional makers so the craft doesn't die out.
but when it matters most you get the best you can, idealistic waffle be damned.
how do i get in contac whit one of those factorys i whant my own creation on paper made in to real steal i dont care if its made on this way ore on the old way as long if it can take a hit and dont break but still if someone could help me out pleas
@quicke47 Thing is though if any medival blacksmith saw this lathe he would give his left nut and a daughter for it. no?
and the pommel is shurely a counterweight simple swordscrafting 101 states that a hilt heavier than the blade is a wellbalanced and sturdy sword
ofcoarce i defend the CNC trade because i am in the industry myself and may i say that the programing for that blade is not easy persay so sweat and tears are involved
trust me if i made that sword in a mashine i would be very proud
The pommel IS a counterweight... and one of the reasons a medieval european sword handles so much more beautifully than an axe or katana or other crude, blade-heavy weapon. However I doubt being lopsided would reduce its function as a counterweight, it would just look bad. the size and weight of the pommel makes a big difference in a swords performance, nearly as much as the length of the hilt.
I was actually perhaps naively under the impression that Albions were hand made. The prices and waiting lists seem a bit excessive knowing theyre just thrown into a CNC machine then dressed... hmm
The sword is an Albion forge blade. While I personally prefer hand-forged swords, Albion's blades are exceptionally high quality for the cost (~$1000). Also, all the people who say it has "none of the character" of the original are wrong; the Albion blades handle *exactly* like the weapon they are copying since they have the identical profile and cross-section.
that sword looks nice, but it will never be as sharp, or as skillfull as a blackmith's artisan's handymaded sword. by example an japanese traditional sword take 1 or 2 months to do, and in the end, you can just see a deadly piece of art, sorry, but i just think a machine will never by better than the dedication of an artist.
@quicke47I am a bladesmith who works with both hand forged blades and stock removal bladesand let me tell you its the quality of the final product that matters not the process. as long as the blade is sharp, holds an edge and meets the needs of the owner then it is a quality blade. as for the pommel, it serves several purposes, a counterweight to balance the sword in the hand, a cap to hold the handle on, and as another striking surface.
@WatchdogDisciple : Not quite. Even starting from coarse tamahagane, Japanese masters forge , heat-treat and rough-grind swords in about 10 days or so. They're only allowed by Japanese law to forge 2 katanas or 3 short swords per month, so they will often spend a good part of their time making chef's knives, specialty tools, etc.
If you start with good-quality steel to begin with, you can do the actual forging in 1-2 days, depending. It's the grinding that's a pain.
@WatchdogDisciple : The amount of time to forge a piece of steel into shape is roughly the same whether you're Japanese, German or Italian. Now, certain steps such as refining tamahagane, or building up a composite billet for migration-era pattern-welded blades as made in Europe during the Dark Ages, can add a fair bit of time to the process, but nowheres near a year. Maybe a month of work- and some of that time would be spent trashing "false starts" where welds didn't take properly.
I want to say that this is the River Witham sword made by CAS Hanwei, but the blade is different. Either way, I'm confident that this blade was made by Hanwei and is thus high quality and solidly crafted (I own their Lionheart sword). Everyone who's saying it's a bad sword simply because it's machined is just trying to be a malcontent or sound like a conniseur, both of which are just irritating.
@nivenheim are you thick a king would want his sword hand made just like kings and queens in britain have stonemasons carve the bricks they use to maintain their palace with
Machines have the abilty to make better more precise parts and tools. Would you wantairplane engine parts to be hand made by a guy with a hammer and a coal forge? Mass produced blades tend to be lower quality than custom made but that is only because technology is not focused on antiquated weaponry. If it was machine made swords would be awesome
@ApplesStudios Exactly blacksmiths will never be able to do what modern machines can. If ever that technology was applied to swords they would outdo any blacksmith. Think outside the box. Who makes modern armor and weapons? I knowmachines are used
@quicke47 LOL! I have to agree and disagree with you. This is still a sword and it does function as a sword. This will handle, cut and kill. However, like most swords in today's market, they are production pieces. These swords are made to be available to the masses. I will say that a custom made piece that is unique, made by a master swordsmith, will out perform a production sword any day. However, you will be paying $1K or more for it.
this is not how u make a sword because a sword is made with your own hands this is all technology. technology has no soul a true sword is made with love and sweat and hard work
@DemonicDuelist1 most people can't afford "love and sweat and hard work". hand made swords cost a fucking shitload more than these do yet, these will generally perform the same-ish as hand made ones. the majority of people who want a "sword" aren't rich, get over it
@DemonicDuelist1 personally, if i had the choice of getting a handmade sword or one of these and i only had 900 bucks, i would only be able to get one of these. in fact, i could probably buy 3 of these with the money it takes to buy a single handmade sword. what i'm saying is that people usually opt for the cheaper product because they don't have thousands upon thousands of dollars to spend because they're not rich. with this product, you can have a fully functional sword for a 3rd of the price
@DemonicDuelist1 and another thing, these machine made swords are consistent. handmade swords are not. with these you can buy a sword and know it will have the same integrity, the same cutting edge, the same flexibility and the same weight as the last one. handmade swords are a gamble because you usually don't know the person who made it, they can claim anything they want and they can make a sword that will look great but perform like a brittle wooden stick.
@DemonicDuelist1 i'm not saying that every swordsmith is like that, i'm just saying that buying a sword from one is running a risk of buying crap. the factory can produce something just as crappy but what would they have to gain by doing that? the swordsmith takes less time so it makes sense but the factory is controlled by machines. machines that don't give a damn about time or how many blanks they can pump out in 10 minutes
All this is is a steel stick made with no heart whatsoever. The work put into a sword by a blacksmith is what makes it a true sword! Also, THE POMMEL ISN'T A COUNTERWEIGHT!!!!
@guyontheguitar666 later European swords were slimmer and lighter , and would use counterweights . Unlike japan europe had different version each century .
this sword is perfect, every part of it, exactly, balanced, shinny, like razor, but...I do not think they have a wild and destructive spirit in it, because that is give by a master blacksmith, during forging, when metals are delivered to the fury of fire, where elementals and ethereal beings of destruction are bind to the metal to live in, and when the sword is unsheathed, these creatures are released to destroy... that is the truth of the swords and weapons, and so we must be careful with them
with machines made swords is crap, coes it wount have the soul and your svet (i am not english, if i was i explained more exactly). I think you got the point.
humus
Fickeis 6 days ago
my sword was WAYeasier to make
Huggiebear23456 1 week ago
Complete garbage. That "sword" would be better off being sent to the scrap yard and smelted into something that isn't worthless. You need a blacksmithed sword comprised of hard and soft materials mixed together by hammer and folded to create a strong durable sword that won't bend, crack or shatter.
a very general tip:If you want to buy a real sword, breathe onto it when it's cold. If you see a pattern that looks like waves of the ocean it's real. If you don't it's not.
wackinstack 2 weeks ago
Where I can buy sword like it?
Serhijusz 1 month ago
LAME.
AmyWTFAutopsy 1 month ago
It's nice to see how they make swords in our current time with our current technology.
Although I still prefer weapons smithed the old way.
BloodyArwendar 1 month ago
this is good for live action movies, perhaps... otherwise it's just sad
ashwalk85 1 month ago
why did there have to be gay and annoying ass indian music playing
AfterMath428 1 month ago
Smithed swords are considerably stronger than this as the grain of the metal is followed and more careful tempering can be achieved resulting in a stronger, more flexible sword
minxel16 1 month ago
I'd much rather have one made the old fashion way not some most likely shitty American way lol.
XxBloodxKnightxX 2 months ago
@XxBloodxKnightxX there are americans who do make swords the old fashioned way the right way
MrKarate22 3 weeks ago in playlist how to make a sword
@MrKarate22 some not all :p and woohoo top comment XD
XxBloodxKnightxX 3 weeks ago
@XxBloodxKnightxX yea like i said some do
MrKarate22 3 weeks ago
@XxBloodxKnightxX The same can be said of Europeans and Asians, friend. :/
Spideyfan117 1 week ago
now i can go assassin with my new duel sword they just made :D guess who on the most wanted list????
dragonman9119 2 months ago
sledgehammer my arse thats a lump hammer
SHANDYBOY86 2 months ago
Machines make swords sharper and more balanced but they can never make a sword the way a person does
Techrave1 2 months ago
GGAYY FACTORY MADE SWORD IS GGAAYY..... you need to make a sword out of true smithing not fucking factories...
KevinLivesInHeaven 2 months ago
Where are we gonna get all that stuff?
blackfanger 2 months ago
This softens the peen.
xmileena 2 months ago
Using a computer uh? Well I'll just throw away my 275lbs Peddinghaus anvil and hammer this things circuit boards.
Malafesh 2 months ago
this is how to mill a sword shaped object, not how to make a sword
RLScheurman 2 months ago
This should be how to make a toy sword
archer82633 2 months ago
machine-made swords are far more balanced and sharper, deal with it faggots
KrazieED 2 months ago
i was searching for a video about a REAL BLACKSMITH making one. not a damn machine. i'm getting educadet as a blacsmith in a half year and i tought it would be funny to learn a few things first xD haha
LethalMetalHead 2 months ago
@LethalMetalHead
Then I recommend this two videos:
/watch?v=kOeTeVn1HXc
/watch?v=0ouFGMzCqYk
There you see the swordsmith that makes the designs for Albion swords (in the video above), sure in that two videos he makes a messer (knife) rather than a sword.
gurkfisk89 2 months ago
ripped this off of how its made lol.
H60Ninja 2 months ago
The pummel is NOT A COUNTER WEIGHT.
It's made from light wood, not a heavy metal.
Hasmond 2 months ago
@Hasmond
That is true for most of history. But this is a late medieval sword and then the pommel usually is a counter weight. This is a kind of sword that is more thrusting oriented than your normal sword.
gurkfisk89 2 months ago
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gurkfisk89 2 months ago
1:26 . how does he control this process ? i mean this a very complicated task, if you put it with a little wrong angle , the edges will not be geometrically straight and right. when i sharpen blades - this is my main problem ! maybe i lack the skills or something?
are there any experts here ?
Thefight2012 3 months ago
That sickend me
laboomerpaly 3 months ago
Where's the fun in that?
Avatar230594 4 months ago
This disgusts me as a person who is extremely interested in blacksmithing. This isn't sword smithing, this is just factory making.
PhilipVII 5 months ago 41
@PhilipVII : While smithing is nice, it doesn't make the sword any less of a sword, quality wise, assuming it is made correctly. That being said I would prefer a correctly smithed sword for authenticity sake.
Halofreakanoid 4 months ago
@PhilipVII is sword smithing continued into the present you would be a smith/engineer. Swordsmithing wasn't about tradition, it was about innovation, advancement of technology and keeping ahead of armor and weapons. Making the traditional sword the way they were is a very admirable craft, but swords need to take more avenues, they need to be advanced again what with the advancement of armor they might make a come back!
effigytormented 4 months ago
@effigytormented yes you are right ! i also think the blades are forgotten not fairly. the combat knives , i think should be replaced in some cases with the roman gladiuses . because for a close combat , gladius would be super extra power
Thefight2012 3 months ago
@PhilipVII of course , who's ths foolish that cannot make a sword with machines ?? , i wanna see how the anciente swords were maked , any suggestion bro ?
zakary5 2 months ago
Only thing swords are good for now is preparing for the zombie apocolypse, in which case... fuck that, spas12 and crossbow all the way!
sonicboomish 5 months ago
@sonicboomish but yah gotta think swords are more quiet and never run out of ammo ill take a sword anyday
GoodDamnPie 5 months ago
@GoodDamnPie if it was going to be a melee weapon then i'd use a shaolin spade
sonicboomish 5 months ago
@sonicboomish yeah i know what you mean we have a zombie shop here pretty good blades every one has their own style
GoodDamnPie 5 months ago
wtf? You have buy a million dollar machine just to make this? Come on make it easier!
heavenfilms11 5 months ago
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Ginyru 6 months ago
@Ginyru I own an albion sword and they are far from crap
dietrichvonw 6 months ago
now paper all over the world has to be scared of a 2 edge sword :O
LoneDeathWolf 6 months ago
AMAZING DUDE!!!
brkndng12 6 months ago
Amazing how much ignorance still surrounds the blade business. Production made blades can never match the quality of handmades-but the way it is made has no affect on the quality. If a sword has proper dynamic and harmonic balancing, proper hardness, and proper edge geometry..it's a quality sword, doesn't matter how it's made. Going by the vid-this is one of the better production mades out there.
BladefulArt 6 months ago
@BladefulArt except they milled out the spine that exposes soft steel
snickers763 6 months ago
"how to make a piece of shit that will fall apart and bend on you"
fourpointohh 6 months ago
dis video is from how its made with a different voice
DibDab1997 7 months ago
:O i so wanna buy that
KamikazeHippie027 7 months ago
sorry starwalker but this is hows you make a sword this is how you make a sword MODERN days
cnerle22 7 months ago
thats not how you make a sword u make it with a hammer and other tools if thay wanted to do it the same thay should of got a black smith
starwalker97 7 months ago
@starwalker97 But it is how you make a sword. Smithing is still around-but besides being traditional and to have more design freedom, there is no reason to smith blades. Stock removal allows you to work with higher quality modern steels.
BladefulArt 6 months ago
making a sword is easy as long as I buy this $100,000 carving machine
prettynoose8497 7 months ago
3:01
oybeutu 8 months ago
thumbs up if minecraft took you here
dvdhox 8 months ago
I bet if i made one it would cut right through the barrel
KioKurashi 8 months ago
@KioKurashi Umm... No....
livelifelovedie1 8 months ago
@KioKurashi You keep telling yourself that, buddy.
ChrisRiley93 7 months ago
Swords should be made by hand, especially ones that are to medievally accurate. A machined sword can NOT be in any way accurate to a medieval blade, because medieval swords were made by hand. Also, owning a sword that is exactly the same as thousands of others is not the same as having one that was made for you and is UNIQUE.
MrPdante 8 months ago
I wouldent mind useing this blade but id rather have a hand forged blade nothing and no one will be able to forge a sword to fit a person as good as an old smith
hellwolf882 8 months ago
@hellwolf882 to an extent i agree, i am a "Smith" leathersmith, blacksmith, tinsmith,allaround craftsman.
when i need a real good sturdy strong blade, i will fire up the kiln and forge one. If i just need a blade that is functional but will be used in the bush(woods) and may end up lost or gone, then i will cut one out of metal and grind an edge on it...
marty10123 7 months ago
ok i was like sitting there and then when i heard computer guided thingey i was all like noobs in russia we use our finger nails
randomkrapguy 8 months ago
at least it's full tang hahah.. such a piece of crap..
chaseparker9 8 months ago
the music is nice ^_^
DiamondFalcon10 9 months ago
noob!
Lancewilson1000 9 months ago
anything made from yout hands and heart has meaning no matter how crappy or good it is its mad by you and you put effort into it, and if you make somthimg most or entirly out of machinery and no matter how good it is it has no meaning a real one you made or that ws truly made has a good feel or bond to it
lamppost904 9 months ago
@lamppost904 bad spelling right mesage I'm with this guy!!!
theocarinalegend 9 months ago
@theocarinalegend lol i was probly half asleep when i wrote that, sorry
lamppost904 8 months ago
@lamppost904 I agree with this
Sethanas12 4 days ago
@quicke47
Stop talking nonsense and crap!! It's a really cool video and sword! Show some respect for a change!! Sheesh!
MAD2be1 9 months ago
Cooool! Thanks for the info! That's cool.
MAD2be1 9 months ago
the only thing this is true to is my ass
lonrodo 9 months ago
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lonrodo 9 months ago
LOL I imagine if the Medieval Smiths had the modern equipment their swords would have been made like this... You use what you have and the techniques that were the most modern for the time...
The weapons of the time were made for killing and made as fast as possible to provide weapons for the armies... Back then they had to hand make them because that is what the tech level was...
gomezy3k 9 months ago
@quicke47 well. it is a sword though.
fardinqwert 9 months ago
Admit it peoples , machine built is stronger and efficient than handmade , it's the reason machine is built : To build things more efficient . You guys won't be sitting here you guys will be dead because your house will fall on you when strong wind blows if your house's parts is not machine made . (But then if your house is man made it will be not that big to kill you when it falls huh?) Also I believe pummel also acts as counter weight , pummeling is just a useful side function.
chantakzee 9 months ago
OH WOW THAT SWORD CAN CUT PAPER !!!!!!!!!
MegaHour1 9 months ago
RETARDED! the pommel goes on AFTER the handle. that's what it's for, not a fucking counterweight!!!
teagm003 9 months ago
I suppose, this is how swords with a price under about 1000€ are made.
NightPaddle 9 months ago
@quicke47 I agree, this sword is crap!
EltonJThe 9 months ago
WTF!!!! NOONE CAN BEAT REAL SMITHS!!!!!!!!! FKING MACHINES!!
Akirabone 9 months ago 19
@Akirabone : Actually, machines making is no worse than smithing, and in some instances, is better. As long as the materials are good and it's made and put together correctly, it'll still be a fine sword. That being said I would prefer smithed swords, as they simply feel more genuine.
Halofreakanoid 4 months ago
@quicke47: If you want something to simply cleave, then get an Axe.
A Sword of this Type has to be balanced to be agile.
And swords are not for cleaving, they are mainly for cutting.
If you would have any experience in Fencing with a Broadsword or Longsword you would have known the importance of the swords balance.
Generally I think the sword made in this video is a proper sword.
Just the basic shape of the Blade is mashined, the rest is crafted and finished by hand.
bansheemopar 10 months ago
@bansheemopar
pretty sure you mean slashing, but hey whatever =D
moootzmoootz 9 months ago
@moootzmoootz : I am from Germany, and the translation from slashingn is not adequate.
But it is possible that taht is the correct english word for the motion made with a sword.
bansheemopar 9 months ago
@bansheemopar Well you are mostly right . It is a proper sword, better than most of the original ones because of the better steel!
But you cant say swords are or are not, because there are so many different forms of swords! Some were made for cutting (eg the katana), some for piercing (like the rapier), some for cleaving (like the roman gladius) and everyone was made for a special purpose and against a special foe´s armor.
Glaswalker1001 9 months ago
@Glaswalker1001 With this point I was a bit inaccurate.
I meant that the medieval Broard or Longsword was not designed for cleaving, but for cutting.
bansheemopar 9 months ago
I'm an avid sword collector. There is a certain je ne sais quois to a handmade sword, a certain beauty that comes from the blood, sweat, and tears of someone who made the blade. That said, let's be completely honest here: The only reason they originally made swords by hand is because they didn't have this kind of technology available to them way back when. If they did, don't think for a second that they wouldn't rather have been using one of these instead of toiling away over an anvil.
SuperGoliath89 10 months ago
@quicke47
Back 500 years ago when your life depended on your sword, I think I'd much rather have a perfect machine made sword, without the flaws.
Humans are becoming more advanced, and a sword made by a machine is a lot more effective than one made by hand.
The very motherboard inside the computer you're using is made by machine, if made by hand it would not be as advanced, precise and efficient as it is.
Zelre 10 months ago
@quicke47 Oh, I can learn, you just aren't teaching anything. We are entitled to our opinions, but yours is wrong.
darian76 10 months ago
@quicke47 Do I honestly have to know you to harass you? And if "defending yourself" includes doing the exact same thing I'm doing to you, then clearly you are as mature as I am.
darian76 10 months ago
@quicke47 Oh we're going to have one of these are we? Well, sorry to burst your bubble, but I was using the second meaning of the word "bitch", words can do that, you know.
darian76 10 months ago
@quicke47 Sorry to burst your bubble, but that's EXACTLY what a pommel is. Also, this is a sword. It just isn't handmade. Don't be such a little bitch.
darian76 10 months ago
@quicke47 like an original katana folded in japan?ok pay it for 6000 usd and you ve got it.i agree but we cant afford such a thing.Maybe you ll find cheaper swords but who said everything is handforged is also reliable?its a matter of blacksmith.i would buy with great hapiness a cold steel for example sword cause i know its not dangerous to "loose my blade on a swing"and WHEN i ll have some thousands of course i ll buy a hand forged.yeah they re not swords,they re machinery-(great) tools for me
anestischatzibeis 10 months ago
Commercial crap! Sorry!
EstoniaANTICOMMUNIST 10 months ago
Fuck you moron, this is not the way to forge a sword...
Pestenera78 10 months ago
strange: the test cuts looked exactly like some i did with a self-made knive some time ago when it wasn't even sharpened. but this CNC shit propably wouldn't hold a real edge. at least the grip and pommel of this sword seem to be wellmade.
charivari100 10 months ago
@ishouldplayzelda I find it kinda sad that you take the critisism against this video so personal. For me, these are cheap copies, and for "my 900 bucks", there is no doubt about that i would get a hand made sword.
hernusse 10 months ago
This is like going into B&Q and getting a sword. Sacrilege.
TartanTrouble 10 months ago
@quicke47 what is the pommel then, a hammer? if the pommel isn't a counterweight then what is? where is the counterweight on this sword? WHERE THE FUCK IS IT???
ishouldplayzelda 10 months ago
@ishouldplayzelda It was a counterweight on late-medievil and later swords, but before then it was just to act as a grip so it didn't slip out of the swordsman's hand and as such was made of light materials. And actually the pommel kinda was a hammer - the phrase 'to pummel' literally meant to hit someone with the pommel of a sword.
MGlBlaze 10 months ago
@quicke47 well its a sword but it isn't...the same
blacksmiths put hard work, blood and sweat to make sword but nowadays people make them with these DAMN MACHINES D:<
i find it funny how they think they know about the ways things used to be made :\
Plemith 10 months ago
bah humbug to your dang machinery!
animegirl9217 11 months ago
They completely missed the most important step, the tempering of the steel.
clancy6969 11 months ago
@clancy6969 they might have just not filmed it. i'm sure a professional sword making company wouldn't forget something as important as that or maybe they're produced a steel that doesn't need to be tempered?
ishouldplayzelda 10 months ago
swords came through fire are stronger than man made chemicals!
nickos3211 11 months ago
@quicke47 dude please stfu,
1. swords are made by sword smiths not blacksmiths
2. i make swords by hand, and a write g and m code, i put just as much thought and love into writing code as a do crafting blades.
3. machined quality spring steel and far superior to anything that can be achieved by ye olde methods.
4. buddy, if you have ever made a sword by hand, and experienced wielding it as you progress in its creation you would know that the pommel's main purpose is to be a counterweight.
13farseer13 11 months ago 2
@13farseer13 For the record,pommels were used as both a counterweight and a functional part of the weapon, specifically when you didn't have room to swing the whole sword.
MrPdante 8 months ago
@MrPdante You're (mostly) incorrect in your statement that pommels were used as a counterweight with swords. Though they were used in light thrusting swords from the 16th century onwards (i.e. modern fencing foils) where quick recovery was needed from parries, heavier swords designed for chopping and slashing would have their effectiveness severely inhibited by a counterweight, as the blade would be both easier to deflect and would not do as much heavy crushing damage upon a strike.
Nix6p 8 months ago
@Nix6p The pommel is the counterweight to the blade matey, it is also a part of the weapon and can be used to deliver blows, you still need a good counterweight on a medieval sword, the point of balance would be tad farther away from the cross guard than a rapier yes, but it would still be there, Don't get trapped into the modern misconception that medieval swords were not effective for thrusting with, it's the best way to get through mail armour, many later sword have an acute distal taper.
AngelisMortis01 6 months ago
Arabian swords are better, in my opinion.
Mascew530 11 months ago
the title is "how to make a sword" it should be "how a sword is made" since we don't have anything at all like this at our home!
TheLilaznboi14 11 months ago
@quicke47 i got ya man true true but yes the pommel is a counterweight a sword needs to be balanced
BandCShow11dy6 11 months ago
Wow just like the vikings made swords.... lol
haakis9 11 months ago
Thats just like they did in the 10th century...
haakis9 11 months ago
Funny how swords made like this tend to shatter or fall apart a hundred times more often than those that are hand made. Machines still can't duplicate the sharpness of hand made Katana. And having the guard hammered on makes it much more likely to come loose during any strenuous use.
Thumbs up if you agree <3
WhiteXboxes 11 months ago
it did not chip? right.. look at the blade in 1:45 , xD och ant I wonder WHY they did that test.. as knights never hit directly into the enemies armor, they tried to stab him where there were no armor..geesh -.-
Slotty 1 year ago
poorly made not time tested, forged steel is stronger, cold rolled is harder though but sword making is an art.
manga12 1 year ago
@quicke47 PS its not made by a black smith, its made by swords smith but every thing else you said is 100% true
rockstartay 1 year ago
excellent
now i could be a blacksmith just incase i survive a zombie apocalypse
leotheloser 1 year ago
@quicke47
Dude chill its a reproduction, not an exact replica, and besides just cos its not made like an original doesn't make it crap, do you believe everything should be done the same way as it was first done, like a fork or a light bulb, should we still use leeches to cure diseases. But i agree with the pommel thing. :)
Mnemonicide 1 year ago
@Mnemonicide
I disagree about the pommel thing. In later european swords like the one in the video, pommels was used as counterweights. At this time you wanted more hiltbalanced swords which are easier to thrust with.
gurkfisk89 11 months ago
some pretty big calls for traditional methods here. i wonder how fast they would change their mind if they were in a shop buying a sword that they would then take to a war.
i can appreciate that people might want to patron traditional makers so the craft doesn't die out.
but when it matters most you get the best you can, idealistic waffle be damned.
stupidnamenoonecares 1 year ago
@quicke47 as long as their not calling it a forged sword then there should be no criticism, this is still "making" a sword.
frozenwalkway 1 year ago
how do i get in contac whit one of those factorys i whant my own creation on paper made in to real steal i dont care if its made on this way ore on the old way as long if it can take a hit and dont break but still if someone could help me out pleas
dragonforce750 1 year ago
@quicke47 Thing is though if any medival blacksmith saw this lathe he would give his left nut and a daughter for it. no?
and the pommel is shurely a counterweight simple swordscrafting 101 states that a hilt heavier than the blade is a wellbalanced and sturdy sword
ofcoarce i defend the CNC trade because i am in the industry myself and may i say that the programing for that blade is not easy persay so sweat and tears are involved
trust me if i made that sword in a mashine i would be very proud
nemo125cc 1 year ago
@quicke47
And whilst I hate to "go contemporary" on you, it's the most definitive way to settle something.
Liechtenauer via Dobringer:
"For the sword is like a scale. If the sword is large and heavy then the pommel must also be large and heavy...".
Novantii 1 year ago
a true sword wouldnt be made by macine if it takes u back to medieval when pepol didnt have macines like this
fireacdc 1 year ago
@quicke47
The pommel IS a counterweight... and one of the reasons a medieval european sword handles so much more beautifully than an axe or katana or other crude, blade-heavy weapon. However I doubt being lopsided would reduce its function as a counterweight, it would just look bad. the size and weight of the pommel makes a big difference in a swords performance, nearly as much as the length of the hilt.
Novantii 1 year ago
I was actually perhaps naively under the impression that Albions were hand made. The prices and waiting lists seem a bit excessive knowing theyre just thrown into a CNC machine then dressed... hmm
Novantii 1 year ago
The blade cut through a steel drum and didn't chip. It's a good damn sword. What matters in the end is the quality. I would buy this sword.
luismelhernandez1974 1 year ago 2
The sword is an Albion forge blade. While I personally prefer hand-forged swords, Albion's blades are exceptionally high quality for the cost (~$1000). Also, all the people who say it has "none of the character" of the original are wrong; the Albion blades handle *exactly* like the weapon they are copying since they have the identical profile and cross-section.
brendanloconnell 1 year ago
that sword looks nice, but it will never be as sharp, or as skillfull as a blackmith's artisan's handymaded sword. by example an japanese traditional sword take 1 or 2 months to do, and in the end, you can just see a deadly piece of art, sorry, but i just think a machine will never by better than the dedication of an artist.
xxxNaXoxx 1 year ago
@quicke47I am a bladesmith who works with both hand forged blades and stock removal bladesand let me tell you its the quality of the final product that matters not the process. as long as the blade is sharp, holds an edge and meets the needs of the owner then it is a quality blade. as for the pommel, it serves several purposes, a counterweight to balance the sword in the hand, a cap to hold the handle on, and as another striking surface.
edge90012 1 year ago
@quicke47 Exactly. They make about 100 lumps of metal in a couple days. Where as a legit forge master will take about a whole year to make 1.
WatchdogDisciple 1 year ago
@WatchdogDisciple : Not quite. Even starting from coarse tamahagane, Japanese masters forge , heat-treat and rough-grind swords in about 10 days or so. They're only allowed by Japanese law to forge 2 katanas or 3 short swords per month, so they will often spend a good part of their time making chef's knives, specialty tools, etc.
If you start with good-quality steel to begin with, you can do the actual forging in 1-2 days, depending. It's the grinding that's a pain.
althesmith 1 year ago
@althesmith Ah correct but I wasnt talking about Japanese forge masters.
WatchdogDisciple 1 year ago
@WatchdogDisciple : The amount of time to forge a piece of steel into shape is roughly the same whether you're Japanese, German or Italian. Now, certain steps such as refining tamahagane, or building up a composite billet for migration-era pattern-welded blades as made in Europe during the Dark Ages, can add a fair bit of time to the process, but nowheres near a year. Maybe a month of work- and some of that time would be spent trashing "false starts" where welds didn't take properly.
althesmith 1 year ago
I want to say that this is the River Witham sword made by CAS Hanwei, but the blade is different. Either way, I'm confident that this blade was made by Hanwei and is thus high quality and solidly crafted (I own their Lionheart sword). Everyone who's saying it's a bad sword simply because it's machined is just trying to be a malcontent or sound like a conniseur, both of which are just irritating.
tendoking48 1 year ago
@nivenheim how would i write this without the ability to comprehend written text
alexchinatown 1 year ago
@nivenheim are you thick a king would want his sword hand made just like kings and queens in britain have stonemasons carve the bricks they use to maintain their palace with
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alexchinatown 1 year ago
Machines have the abilty to make better more precise parts and tools. Would you wantairplane engine parts to be hand made by a guy with a hammer and a coal forge? Mass produced blades tend to be lower quality than custom made but that is only because technology is not focused on antiquated weaponry. If it was machine made swords would be awesome
MrOttmandus 1 year ago
@MrOttmandus black smiths are for swords and armor retard not fucking air plane parts
ApplesStudios 1 year ago
@ApplesStudios Exactly blacksmiths will never be able to do what modern machines can. If ever that technology was applied to swords they would outdo any blacksmith. Think outside the box. Who makes modern armor and weapons? I knowmachines are used
MrOttmandus 1 year ago
@quicke47 LOL! I have to agree and disagree with you. This is still a sword and it does function as a sword. This will handle, cut and kill. However, like most swords in today's market, they are production pieces. These swords are made to be available to the masses. I will say that a custom made piece that is unique, made by a master swordsmith, will out perform a production sword any day. However, you will be paying $1K or more for it.
mlkendall6529 1 year ago
this is not how u make a sword because a sword is made with your own hands this is all technology. technology has no soul a true sword is made with love and sweat and hard work
DemonicDuelist1 1 year ago 27
@DemonicDuelist1 its only for decoration
thierryxxthierry 1 year ago
@DemonicDuelist1 yes instead a long and inefficient process should be taken , how economical . Swords are just tools not some magic fetish .
sewagedweller 1 year ago
@DemonicDuelist1 most people can't afford "love and sweat and hard work". hand made swords cost a fucking shitload more than these do yet, these will generally perform the same-ish as hand made ones. the majority of people who want a "sword" aren't rich, get over it
ishouldplayzelda 10 months ago
@ishouldplayzelda how is that my problem if someone wants a sword that badly they should do it by the book
DemonicDuelist1 10 months ago
@DemonicDuelist1 personally, if i had the choice of getting a handmade sword or one of these and i only had 900 bucks, i would only be able to get one of these. in fact, i could probably buy 3 of these with the money it takes to buy a single handmade sword. what i'm saying is that people usually opt for the cheaper product because they don't have thousands upon thousands of dollars to spend because they're not rich. with this product, you can have a fully functional sword for a 3rd of the price
ishouldplayzelda 10 months ago
@DemonicDuelist1 and another thing, these machine made swords are consistent. handmade swords are not. with these you can buy a sword and know it will have the same integrity, the same cutting edge, the same flexibility and the same weight as the last one. handmade swords are a gamble because you usually don't know the person who made it, they can claim anything they want and they can make a sword that will look great but perform like a brittle wooden stick.
ishouldplayzelda 10 months ago
@DemonicDuelist1 i'm not saying that every swordsmith is like that, i'm just saying that buying a sword from one is running a risk of buying crap. the factory can produce something just as crappy but what would they have to gain by doing that? the swordsmith takes less time so it makes sense but the factory is controlled by machines. machines that don't give a damn about time or how many blanks they can pump out in 10 minutes
ishouldplayzelda 10 months ago
@DemonicDuelist1 i'm pretty sure a guy making a sword isn't thinking about "love" so much as he is thinking about killing a mf'er
firehide 9 months ago
@DemonicDuelist1 It's funny that actual sword users think you're a retard.
TheKingdomofErnor 8 months ago
@TheKingdomofErnor ok
DemonicDuelist1 8 months ago
when you're fighting and you breake a sword is because she's done like that.. only because it's brilliant and perfect.. but it sucks
bacchiomorboso 1 year ago
All this is is a steel stick made with no heart whatsoever. The work put into a sword by a blacksmith is what makes it a true sword! Also, THE POMMEL ISN'T A COUNTERWEIGHT!!!!
guyontheguitar666 1 year ago 4
@guyontheguitar666 later European swords were slimmer and lighter , and would use counterweights . Unlike japan europe had different version each century .
sewagedweller 1 year ago
this sword is perfect, every part of it, exactly, balanced, shinny, like razor, but...I do not think they have a wild and destructive spirit in it, because that is give by a master blacksmith, during forging, when metals are delivered to the fury of fire, where elementals and ethereal beings of destruction are bind to the metal to live in, and when the sword is unsheathed, these creatures are released to destroy... that is the truth of the swords and weapons, and so we must be careful with them
hunnol 1 year ago
this sword will not be a sword, it will be a mass production of pointy sticks...
bookercreator 1 year ago
this makes baby jesus cry.
iandegia 1 year ago
also,the pommel was not a counterweight!check lindybeige's video to see why.
(i am not adveritizing,its just he gets his point through so good that i wanted to tell people)
coreman24680 1 year ago
"they smite a metal barrel with it." who the fuck does this narrorator think she is?
Rossowens 1 year ago
with machines made swords is crap, coes it wount have the soul and your svet (i am not english, if i was i explained more exactly). I think you got the point.
DiRsPLeSis 1 year ago