I thought the EXACT SAME THING! I've seen this movie dozens of times and JUST noticed the bullet hole to the head, or at least the after effects of them trying to patch it up.
"I feel them, but I can't remember them," is probably the saddest line in the movie. I'm surprized at how moving this film managed to be, even in the midst of satire and violence.
@Thagomizer I know, right? That's why it got such good reviews. Amongst all that and plus it's basically a robot/sci-fi movie, which is usually targeted toward kids. Except it was one of the most violent movies of the 80's lol. Dad letme watch it with him. I think I was 8, when it came out.
Delta could represent the Eternal Kingdom with Robocop (Jesus) ushering it in by fighting crime (sin). The recession/depression could be looked upon as the gates of Hell opening up upon the people of Detroit in the film with the criminals being the demons that inhabit the underworld.
@WhosTheMorley Of course it's realistic, it's material form. It's literally on his face, on his body, so it is a real physical item. Not after effects or CGI, which are all added on by editing cameras and computers. This stuff is latex, rubber, plastic, silicone, spray paint, laquer, glue. It's really there. Something CrapGI will never be able to fulfill and claim that it does. : )
@WhosTheMorley I know, how good am I? No really, how good? I really don't know. Sorry, God I'm a dickhead. BTW Do I know from somewhere? Is that your surname? Morley? Are you female and Australian?
I read some where that the film executives did not want to pay for the damaged Robocop armour seen in this scene becuase of the huge cost and time used to make it. The director and Peter Well had to argue to have it brought into the film because it was crucial to re-humanizing Murphy. With the compromised armour, Robocop was more or less vulnerable to gun fire like he was before being converted into a machine.
Dick is Robocop's version of Satan and the Old Man/CEO is God. Notice that Jones is driven by pride and jealousy towards Bob Morton, a common man in OCP. The end of the film is similar to the biblical fall of Satan in which he, or in this case Jones, rebells against God, or the old man, and is stripped of power and thrown out of Heaven, or OCP, and falls to the earth.
Robocop is one giant religious allegory, and notice the director of film, Paul Verhoven, has a history of making films that have a strong sense of humanity and Christianity.
Also, Robocop is a sci-fi version of Jesus Christ. Murphy's death at the middle part of the film is quite similar to the crucifixtion of Christ. The blasting off of his hand by Boddicker represents being nailed to the cross. The severed right arm represents the bairing of the cross. Being hammedred by the shotguns is Murpghy being whipped (notice the laceration during the ER scene). Finally, the gunshot to Murphy's head is his crown of thorns.
The creators of this film should have never mentioned how Murphy was converted into Robocop in order to add impact to the character by allowing the viewer to interpret how it happened for themsleves.
@kytim89 That was the only way for them to make the audience feel totally emotionally connected to Murphy. To show all the stages of his fruition, was to also make the audience feel empathy for him and also a fair bit of anger toward the establishment. To show how they so cruelly tried to 'blank his memory' like it was nothing, like he was now just property of the Government and Corporation, made us just feel for him more. Otherwise it would've just been Boddicker as the badie. Boring!!
At this point in the novelisation, Murphy copes with the trauma of his death and former life by rededicating himself to being the best cop he can be. It is not just Murphy's body that is made of titanium now, it is his will and strength of character to carry on with his duty.
Compare that to the suicidal RoboCop 2 prototypes.
This was amazing in how subtly acted it was. Armand asante did an audition for the film, and was doing this scene screaming and howling in anguish... compare that to the brilliance of Peter Weller's performance.
@starsiegeplayer Armand Assante? Oh no, could you imagine with that accent? Hahaha just kiddin I love Mandy. But he would've kinda sucked had he had won the role. Pete was just right for it. The perfect fit. Think Ray Liotta in Goodfellas...that same wild eye inthusiasm and passion for the part. Just throwing yourself in the deep end and going for it. Brilliant.
The technology to create a real life Robocop already exsists, but the servo motors depicted in this film and the articulation of the robotic limbs are not yet advanced to the stage of what Robocop has in the movie.
A pretty touching scene. Murphy goes through a bit of numb and bitter moment knowing that his wife and kid has started over since his death, but there is nothing he can do about it. Kind of makes it understandable whenever he is shown ruthlessly devastating the bad guys -- the only thing left for him to do is seek revenge.
Is Robocop purely robotic with a human brain, or does he have internal organs inside the robotic body? It would seem that since brain tissue has to be consistently oxygenated then he would need a heart and blodd vessels. So, I figure that he is a torso and head with internal organs and a brain interfaced into a computer to control the body.
@kytim89 He definitely has a heart and certain internal organs, his brain as well since the human brain is its own computer and in this case enhanced with cybernetics. I hate to mention anything past the 1st film, but the 3rd has him getting a replacement artificial heart (It could be that he already possessed an artificial one)
As was mentioned in the 1st, he needs only basic nutrition to support his internal system(s). In the form of something like baby food, which Johnson was really into.
@DireAxis In real life, the brain requires more oxygen than any other organ in the human body. So he must have the ability to keep his brain highly oxygenated. Whether he has an actual organic heart or not is never states ( I do not consider RC 3 as canon). In a way Robocop is much like the Tin Man from Wizard of Oz and he is desperatly searching for his heart.
@kytim89 IIRC there is schematic (I think fan made) of at least part of his systems, including some of the workings in his brain. Inconsistences are part of sci-fi films, though in the sense of the film it is likely has proper support for his brain to function, especially since it it is now interacting with cybernetics all the time. I see a little tin man, but at the core the human factor is conflicting with the machine, but at the same time creating something that is better than both.
@kytim89 According the the writers... I think they said only his brain is organic, so me might have an artificial digestive system. Apparently his "face" is supposed to be a death mask, a silicone impression of his face made after his death, to give him a human identity..
@visceralgristle Yes, I remember reading about that. However, this is just a film, but sustaining a brain without actual organs would be nearly impossible. Having a face is important though because without it Murphy would have went insane because he still had the memories of being human, just not of his full identity by thsi time.
@MrSorroW1000 Agreed. You should see her in DePalma's film, I think it's called Body Double, can't remember. But, *WOLF WHISTLE* Ohhhhh Yeaahhh!!! She reminds me of Linda Blair, from The Excorsist, because both have naturally curvaecous bodies and cute chubby faces. Just gorgeous.
@bursegsardaukar A very conscious act by actor Peter Weller. He says it's to show how Murphy slowly changes and becomes more and more human again. By the end of the film, he's more or less sounding the same as Murphy before the shooting.
Also note how RoboCop for no reason whatsoever is back to his robo voice for the sequel...-___-
Rediscovering the man within the machine....great film.
CinemaPassion5 2 weeks ago 2
Sol sad. I think she loves Murphy.
CSavageSr 2 weeks ago
This movie is till ahead of its time No Robocops in 2012 yet. :D
Finnishdude107 1 month ago
OMG I just noticed the bullet hole where Clarence Boddicker shot him, I can't believe I never noticed that before! After 21 years!
JCVDbaby 1 month ago
@JCVDbaby
I thought the EXACT SAME THING! I've seen this movie dozens of times and JUST noticed the bullet hole to the head, or at least the after effects of them trying to patch it up.
BigYellow9999 3 days ago
maybe this is wrong of me, but Lewis doesn't half look sexy in that bit where she says 'Your gun'...
nanarockband 1 month ago
Leave me alone.
xanderdude123 1 month ago
24 years of watching this movie and it still irks me that the chin piece disappears when Robo takes off his helmet.
Engelvonreue 1 month ago 7
"I feel them, but I can't remember them," is probably the saddest line in the movie. I'm surprized at how moving this film managed to be, even in the midst of satire and violence.
Thagomizer 1 month ago 2
@Thagomizer I know, right? That's why it got such good reviews. Amongst all that and plus it's basically a robot/sci-fi movie, which is usually targeted toward kids. Except it was one of the most violent movies of the 80's lol. Dad letme watch it with him. I think I was 8, when it came out.
ViceCityVacation 1 month ago 2
1:20 - "fuck me..."
SuperMaximus1000 1 month ago
are you guys prepared for that probably awful Robocop remake?
wishingW3L 1 month ago
"It's really good to see you again, Murphy." Best scene of the whole film.
SpaceHopperCopter 1 month ago
More religous analogies:
Delta could represent the Eternal Kingdom with Robocop (Jesus) ushering it in by fighting crime (sin). The recession/depression could be looked upon as the gates of Hell opening up upon the people of Detroit in the film with the criminals being the demons that inhabit the underworld.
kytim89 2 months ago
That make up for an 80's film look's very realistic to me
WhosTheMorley 2 months ago
@WhosTheMorley Of course it's realistic, it's material form. It's literally on his face, on his body, so it is a real physical item. Not after effects or CGI, which are all added on by editing cameras and computers. This stuff is latex, rubber, plastic, silicone, spray paint, laquer, glue. It's really there. Something CrapGI will never be able to fulfill and claim that it does. : )
ViceCityVacation 1 month ago
@ViceCityVacation Good Point!
WhosTheMorley 1 month ago
@WhosTheMorley I know, how good am I? No really, how good? I really don't know. Sorry, God I'm a dickhead. BTW Do I know from somewhere? Is that your surname? Morley? Are you female and Australian?
ViceCityVacation 1 month ago
He looks alot like Nicholas Cage, :o
itachiu37 2 months ago
I like the woman so much
typical americaness she's got
ilmedico13 2 months ago
I read some where that the film executives did not want to pay for the damaged Robocop armour seen in this scene becuase of the huge cost and time used to make it. The director and Peter Well had to argue to have it brought into the film because it was crucial to re-humanizing Murphy. With the compromised armour, Robocop was more or less vulnerable to gun fire like he was before being converted into a machine.
kytim89 2 months ago
Any body says that the terminator is better than ROBOCOP can go FUCK THEMSELVES
cobra1982ify 2 months ago 4
I meant to say Dick Jones in the previous comment.
kytim89 2 months ago
Dick is Robocop's version of Satan and the Old Man/CEO is God. Notice that Jones is driven by pride and jealousy towards Bob Morton, a common man in OCP. The end of the film is similar to the biblical fall of Satan in which he, or in this case Jones, rebells against God, or the old man, and is stripped of power and thrown out of Heaven, or OCP, and falls to the earth.
kytim89 2 months ago
@kytim89 I like this analogy a lot.
TheHeroTutorials 2 months ago
Robocop is one giant religious allegory, and notice the director of film, Paul Verhoven, has a history of making films that have a strong sense of humanity and Christianity.
kytim89 2 months ago
Also, Robocop is a sci-fi version of Jesus Christ. Murphy's death at the middle part of the film is quite similar to the crucifixtion of Christ. The blasting off of his hand by Boddicker represents being nailed to the cross. The severed right arm represents the bairing of the cross. Being hammedred by the shotguns is Murpghy being whipped (notice the laceration during the ER scene). Finally, the gunshot to Murphy's head is his crown of thorns.
kytim89 2 months ago
@kytim89 the best analogy to that is when he was being attacked by the police (by his own people) because he was framed even though he was innocent.
i'm talking about that scene when all the police shoots and him and he crawls away.
he was "hunted and beaten like a criminal"
CIarKent 2 months ago
@CIarKent What analogy?
kytim89 2 months ago
@CIarKent thats not an analogy.
Mistaken4starz 1 month ago
The creators of this film should have never mentioned how Murphy was converted into Robocop in order to add impact to the character by allowing the viewer to interpret how it happened for themsleves.
kytim89 2 months ago
@kytim89 That was the only way for them to make the audience feel totally emotionally connected to Murphy. To show all the stages of his fruition, was to also make the audience feel empathy for him and also a fair bit of anger toward the establishment. To show how they so cruelly tried to 'blank his memory' like it was nothing, like he was now just property of the Government and Corporation, made us just feel for him more. Otherwise it would've just been Boddicker as the badie. Boring!!
ViceCityVacation 1 month ago
It has been reported that Peter Weller will be in the next Star Trek movie. But it is unknown what role he will play.
ChrisCa1601 2 months ago
At this point in the novelisation, Murphy copes with the trauma of his death and former life by rededicating himself to being the best cop he can be. It is not just Murphy's body that is made of titanium now, it is his will and strength of character to carry on with his duty.
Compare that to the suicidal RoboCop 2 prototypes.
SeanMaccaUK 3 months ago
This was amazing in how subtly acted it was. Armand asante did an audition for the film, and was doing this scene screaming and howling in anguish... compare that to the brilliance of Peter Weller's performance.
starsiegeplayer 3 months ago 5
@starsiegeplayer Armand Assante? Oh no, could you imagine with that accent? Hahaha just kiddin I love Mandy. But he would've kinda sucked had he had won the role. Pete was just right for it. The perfect fit. Think Ray Liotta in Goodfellas...that same wild eye inthusiasm and passion for the part. Just throwing yourself in the deep end and going for it. Brilliant.
ViceCityVacation 1 month ago
That gun looks HUGE on Nancy Allen.
CorporalDwaynHicks 3 months ago
The technology to create a real life Robocop already exsists, but the servo motors depicted in this film and the articulation of the robotic limbs are not yet advanced to the stage of what Robocop has in the movie.
kytim89 3 months ago 2
this is like the saddest part in robo cop
evilwillie011 3 months ago 2
0:20 I've not seen screws that long since I built my Ikea wardrobe three years ago.
HerbieZ 3 months ago 2
A pretty touching scene. Murphy goes through a bit of numb and bitter moment knowing that his wife and kid has started over since his death, but there is nothing he can do about it. Kind of makes it understandable whenever he is shown ruthlessly devastating the bad guys -- the only thing left for him to do is seek revenge.
Waterflux 3 months ago
80s adam jensen right here... or should i say, adam jensen is a copy of robocop... sortof.
tohtorigyro 4 months ago
@tohtorigyro lol Deus Ex fan!
ChaosSolider1 3 months ago
@ChaosSolider1 yeah, and a fan of robocop! :D
tohtorigyro 3 months ago
@tohtorigyro Glad to see some Deus Ex fans are Robocop fans due to that none of them know what Robocop is. ._.
ChaosSolider1 3 months ago
Is Robocop purely robotic with a human brain, or does he have internal organs inside the robotic body? It would seem that since brain tissue has to be consistently oxygenated then he would need a heart and blodd vessels. So, I figure that he is a torso and head with internal organs and a brain interfaced into a computer to control the body.
kytim89 4 months ago
@kytim89 He definitely has a heart and certain internal organs, his brain as well since the human brain is its own computer and in this case enhanced with cybernetics. I hate to mention anything past the 1st film, but the 3rd has him getting a replacement artificial heart (It could be that he already possessed an artificial one)
As was mentioned in the 1st, he needs only basic nutrition to support his internal system(s). In the form of something like baby food, which Johnson was really into.
DireAxis 3 months ago
@DireAxis In real life, the brain requires more oxygen than any other organ in the human body. So he must have the ability to keep his brain highly oxygenated. Whether he has an actual organic heart or not is never states ( I do not consider RC 3 as canon). In a way Robocop is much like the Tin Man from Wizard of Oz and he is desperatly searching for his heart.
kytim89 3 months ago
@kytim89 IIRC there is schematic (I think fan made) of at least part of his systems, including some of the workings in his brain. Inconsistences are part of sci-fi films, though in the sense of the film it is likely has proper support for his brain to function, especially since it it is now interacting with cybernetics all the time. I see a little tin man, but at the core the human factor is conflicting with the machine, but at the same time creating something that is better than both.
DireAxis 3 months ago
@kytim89 According the the writers... I think they said only his brain is organic, so me might have an artificial digestive system. Apparently his "face" is supposed to be a death mask, a silicone impression of his face made after his death, to give him a human identity..
visceralgristle 2 months ago
@visceralgristle Yes, I remember reading about that. However, this is just a film, but sustaining a brain without actual organs would be nearly impossible. Having a face is important though because without it Murphy would have went insane because he still had the memories of being human, just not of his full identity by thsi time.
kytim89 2 months ago
When I was young and saw this, this freaked me the fuck out, how his face was just like......on there.
GreatestMKfighter 4 months ago
Nancy is HOT!!!
MrSorroW1000 4 months ago
@MrSorroW1000 Agreed. You should see her in DePalma's film, I think it's called Body Double, can't remember. But, *WOLF WHISTLE* Ohhhhh Yeaahhh!!! She reminds me of Linda Blair, from The Excorsist, because both have naturally curvaecous bodies and cute chubby faces. Just gorgeous.
ViceCityVacation 1 month ago
how much guts do you need to live your life like that....
qwuezalothus 5 months ago 21
@qwuezalothus More than most of us will ever have. Figuratively OR literally....
brownblair98 2 months ago
@qwuezalothus Guts of steel.
I'm sorry, it was too damn easy.
TheSpiderByte 2 months ago
@qwuezalothus Apparently... A lot.
mikeymarshful 2 months ago
@qwuezalothus
No guts, just wires and steel. You'd have to be nuts to live your life like a bunch of bolts.
adamgferguson 1 month ago
Sad part
bigboy6969100 5 months ago 2
that screws reach to each other :P
thejimmydee 6 months ago
my favorite film.
deathstate1 6 months ago
This film will live for a thousand years
gruad999 6 months ago 52
@gruad999
Like maybe the protagonist too.
qwuezalothus 4 months ago
I find it strange that Robocop's voice changes from a mechanical to a more or less human one.
bursegsardaukar 9 months ago
@bursegsardaukarI always thought that his helmet, somehow, changed his voice to sound more threatening.
ganonpr 5 months ago
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@ganonpr i thought that too best film ever!!!!
weds9994 4 months ago
@bursegsardaukar A very conscious act by actor Peter Weller. He says it's to show how Murphy slowly changes and becomes more and more human again. By the end of the film, he's more or less sounding the same as Murphy before the shooting.
Also note how RoboCop for no reason whatsoever is back to his robo voice for the sequel...-___-
HarpoTheVillain 5 months ago
reminds me of darth vader's unmasking!
xDaNiEldrummerx 11 months ago