Letsplaychess.com: Are kids getting stronger at chess ?! - Center Counter (Scandinavian)

[Mwuesse]

I guessed at Qxc8 because if the bishop takes whites queen then white can win blacks queen with Bb4.

[daemonowner]

Magnus Carlsen is another person who showed incredible ability at a young age.

[sweffe96]

Ray robson was GM in 2009, pretty impressive. Almost as young as Magnus Carlsen.

[CapnSeggy]

Yes, kids are getting stronger...the youngest GM at the moment is 12 years old!

[galeck]

yes kids are getting strong at chess like you mention Ray Robson and the new sensation the son of Viktor Kortchnoi name nikita

[924142707]

I think it's a combination of technology and the fact that it's been done before. Once Fisher established himself at such a young age then other parents and kids realized they could do it too. Kind of like how the 4 minute mile was considered impossible until some one did it, and then with in a month like 300 other people did it.

[issiac360]

beggining the kid was using scandanavian defense that was pretty cool

[gologram]

ray looks somewhat like kotov's proponent who prefer precise calculation to intuitive play. Is this coincidence that alekhine, who had demonic combinative talent, beat a king of intuitive play capablanca?

[YsnipezYMw2]

im 13 and i watch a lot of your videos and i am pretty strong, and i think you are right about kids getting stronger. L O L I think kids once they learn chess, dominate the competition.

[xxxIronLeexxx]

I think kids once they learn chess through a program or otb, then will actually play programs at full strength, as thier parents probably won't allow much internet access at that age, thus they play a super strong opponent time and time again, then finally get online and go from there.

Also I think the mind of a kid learning chess is easier, like learning a language, it just comes to them through playing like language comes to them through just hearing it.

Whatever. That's my bs "theory".

[music7adore]

when you commentate games like this it renews my love for chess

[AbdalaElSusi]

he is a GM now

[iPLAYgb]

well, im pretty sure kids are becoming stronger because i've been playing chess for less than a year at 14 and my rating is 1530 now i believe

[samuelzhang332004]

why cant he take with his bishop at 9:35 at c8?o nvm

[samuelzhang332004]

why cant he take with his bishop at 9:35 at c8?

[JohnnySkillish]

I do think kids are getting better because every new generation has new technologies that kids are taught to use from a younger and younger age. One funny example from my childhood is that to "Go to your room!" USED TO BE a punishment! NOW, kids don't come OUT of their rooms! EVERYTHING IS THERE! Wide-screen TV's, cell phones, land lines, computers, hi-fi stereos, etc...I had an 8 track, PERIOD! It WAS a punishment! NOWADAYS, you discipline children by taking away their cells, and computers! lol

[TheDraxxor]

I myself am 14 and I play chess for 2 years now and i can say that this guy is f***ing brilliant o.O

[luke19631963]

Thanks for sharing. Bobby Fischer himself felt that people, kids included I'm sure, are getting stronger. With the advent of the internet we now have the ability to quickly learn and study vasts amount of theory, opening and otherwise. This is one reason he came out with his Random chess game.

[OathOfOdium]

ya, i'm pretty good....

[studybuddydave]

I was there I was in the u1300 lol

[Mdl013]

at 8:30 i would have played Qxc8, seeing as how blacks light square bishop could not re-capture, because that would be met with bishop G5+, a discovered attack on blacks queen.

[sutomaraj]

the move i saw was queenxc8 bxc8 then bishop b4check getting the queen back

[fresniak]

very nice game. Just a remark you did not outline that Bb4 move also threatens mate in 1 on e7, and that's I think the real beauty of the move. Both defensive and offensive in so many different ways.

[GenghisClown]

Not sure you can compare the kid to Fischer and still support the conclusion that kids in general are getting stronger at the game.

Either way, that's a lot better than I could have done at age 13.

[chrism216]

kids are stronger because they grow up with chess -and the modern techonolgy which was not available before- so their brains actually develop and adapt to chess. its the usual phenomena: you learn better as a kid than as a grownup.

[UnderDog988]

Wat is happen is the parent are push kids in chess at much younger ages and are pushing them more ( make them focus primily on chess). And since ther computer program it very easy for any parent to teach his sons. Witch is a change for the past were the kids didn't learn that much form the parents they need to perform on ther own and went they get a little old if they did well then they would be thought by a IM or GM. All this make it so kids are now insane in chess at very young ages.

[thefellowww]

I'm thinking maybe kids may be getting better at chess because their math skills are improving. Kids are learning more advanced math faster and faster and chess is like math. For example, after after you learn 9 times 6 you don't forget it. It's the same in chess when you learn openings or pawn games or whatever it never changes.

[kl1172]

Sergey Karjakin at 12 years and 7 months

[EricSmyth14]

what is the youngest grandmaster in the world

????

[CanadaMMA]

Are kids getting better at chess? I think all players are getting better at chess. All these tools we have now weren't there 50 years ago. Your average player couldn't go and review every single game the worlds geatest players ever played. Now they can.

Thanks to the internet players of today could probably mop the floor with players of the same rank from 20-30 years ago.

[mavaddat]

Ray Robson has guts. I found the solutions to the positions you highlighted, but I seriously doubt I'd play them in any sort of real game.

[JackBauerRulez2008]

very good vid!!!

[numbcore]

good commentary, only a little fast at times

[PMorphy65]

Thanks for posting this...just amazing!

[gavrila87]

the 9 years old kid Hetul Shah beat GM Nurlan Ibrayev(2407) couple of days ago in Parsvanth turnament in New Delhi(India).It would be interesting to post a video with the game!

[Zyrog]

jrobi already did

[hayeder]

seriously, communication can't be had eloquently or even pleasantly the state of your grammar. Rather than attempting to dismiss the situation with something like "who cares?" why not just improve your grammar - then you're good if someone does care. As for the business about the sole use of grammar being just a means for people to get themselves nice jobs, why not use it if it is so true? why not exploit good grammar?

[proxpero]

wtf? "communication can't be had eloquently or even pleasantly the state of your grammar?" Physician, heal thyself! Had your own pedantic eructation itself been grammatical, it would have been neither eloquent nor pleasant. This is youtube, numbnuts, not the Loeb Library.

[sodayodadude1]

?? haha

[haluceN8]

I think you missed a comma in the opening sentence,...

[Warriorawesome17]

Around 10:02 after the white knight moves to the square f3 why doesn't black consider taking the pawn on f2 therefore threatening the knight on f3?

[infinitusfron]

the knight is protected by the g2 pawn. if ...Qxf2; Q-c8 ch ...K-e7; Qxh8 gaining the advantage. black can't take f3 because it is still protected by the g2 pawn. if now ...Qxg2; now the knight can simply move away perhaps N-d4?? threatening the bishop on e5.

[doublerook]

I've been watching your videos and finally subscribed. Thanks for all your postings and I really enjoy your analysis.

[Mossflower1994]

Ofcourse

I am 1605 FIDE and I can even vote.

[firedwired]

wow great video, what a kid!

[jeaok]

hmmm..Bb4 was actually the first move i even considered

[bajen3]

To tell the true, the bishop moves i find it directly. Prob beacuse luck ore kingkruscher say it that it was awesome draw and give us 10 second :)

[trixapete]

i know i usually dislike people being anal about spelling and grammar. but i feel compelled to put that one right since it occurs SO much that i think they must be teaching kids wrong.

[trixapete]

LOSE NOT LOOSE!

[KNIGHTSTALE22]

ofcourse younger players are getting stronger. Its due to internet access more than anything. look at all the hype about A levels becoming easier because of higher pass rates when really people just have more info at thier fingertips. Imagine what material morphy had to study with to practise combinations, not much. Now there are tons of books and websites to study from

[samirhossain]

no ego, great will power,concentration, and practice..if u do all that...doesnt matter how old you are you will get good..as we get older, our body deteriorates not our brain....Victor Korchnoi is a good example....i beat my math teacher who was 2000ish in his prime, and he didnt even shake my hand after the game....that type of an ego problem will definately cause him to stay that level...but this GM was incredible

[savis99]

i played my first tournament and came third so i must thank you for your videos, I played a few 9 year old children who would give many masters a run for their money

[jj32768]

To answer the question, yes, very much so!

[GreenCastleBlock]

Yes, kids are getting stronger at chess. I am 26, just broke 2000 a few months ago, and the number of high school players in my state 10+ years younger than I who have already broken 2000 or come close to it, makes me feel like an old fart sometimes.

Unfortunately the college chess situation in the US is a joke, designed to reward US schools who recruit foreign titled players. We need to take more of our 1800ish high school seniors and turn them into 2300ish young adults.

[MAfr3ak]

well im 14 and my USCF rating is around 1800

[buffguy86]

i think they are getting better for the EXACT reasons you stated!

[nightenglow]

I think the internet has helped a lot by just being able to access more information. If Bobby Fisher had the internet when he was a boy, he prob would have been even more dangerious

[arb05ajc]

i think the most crucial point in a chess player's development is when they are first exposed to the game. i was shown the game when i was about 7 by my uncle and didn't take very seriously at all. now i'm 21, and am finding it very difficult to improve! i think if i was given the resources i have available now when i was 7, i'd be a much stronger player.

has anyone read josh waitzkin's 'art of learning'? he talks about approaching things with the mind set of a beginner.

[grumour]

I disagree about young peoples brains being more receptive. My very first game of chess was september 27th 2007 and I'm 21. Along with lots of practice and lots of KC's videos I'm now beating people around the 2100 mark online and about to join a local club. Fair enough if you want to be a top GM you'd prob have to start young, but being concerned at starting at 11 seems a bit silly, I would have loved to been shown chess then.

[grumour]

lol altho i hasten to add i am a uni student and do have plenty of spare time on my hands

[alexholowczak]

I've just left "child" status behind me, but I know from playing juniors that they're bloomin' good! That said, I don't think there is much depth. Fewer children in the UK play nowadays (that goes for people generally, though). I started at 11, and in 7 years, I've got to 1700 ELO. If I'd started younger, as many leading youngsters do, then I may even be better than that. I think it's easier for young people to improve than old people, because their minds are more receptive to new concepts.

[marticus42]

Amazing, the pinning of the white bishop alone with 22. Bb4!! is amazing. Lets hope it's another Fischer.

Q: Are kids getting stronger?

A: Strong players with always appear no matter what their age. However modern advantages allow strong players to achieve much more in less time.

[alru24]

I am sure the kids use Youtube videos for instruction

[shinyninetales999]

@alru24 I am sure, also because I am one of these

[Tomasovich15chess]

@alru24 is better than reading books :D

[sweffe96]

@alru24 I sure as hell do :P

[OrangeSpam]

Great game! Thanks kingscrusher!

But the comment about the "new Fischer" reminded me of the constant search for the "new Maradonna" in football :)

[Fupper16]

I got it! Haha!

[fLowKnows]

Great game... for white.

[shayeeX]

My lord...13?...it's just incredible. Well Kingcrusher, we may just have another Fischer about to shake the chess world again.

[trixapete]

13.. wow!

[herbs4mike]

On the Bxc2 variation. I believe Whites next move would have been 0-0. With the idea of then overloading the center with overwhelming development especially with his Queen's location.

Cause after white castles, white only has the rook in it's original position. Whereas after Black's turn, Black still has 3 pieces undeveloped. Also, White can gain another tempo (if wanted) by QR-c1. So I think Ray's immediate punishment was far superior development which later in the game would be overwhelming

[DamnControl2]

I thought taking on c8 is the right move.

[heltok]

With strong engines like rybka3 human just plowing through theory, I think there will be some exceptional players who learn from intuition and not from calculating. If they later learn calculating and opening theory the can be really strong, but very few people have that kind of dedication and chess isn't the most profitable way for them to use their talent so all of them wont have the chance to grow into their full potential.