"ki" aikido shouldn't even be called aikido! sensei would have heart attack at such an insult, "Tohei' went rouge years ago leaving the aikido federation to start his own art shortly after the death of founder ueshiba(surprised?).
@Wolfsbane909 Tohei was Uyeshiba's head instructor. When Uyeshiba died, his son took over as head of the Hombu dojo. Uyeshiba's son disliked Tohei's position as head instructor and a turf battle essentially started. Tohei left when it became evident to all that there was not going to be an amicable solution to the problem. It was hardly "going rogue." Tohei's introduction of Ki instruction was his attempt to make the art more accessible to others. Hardly something Uyeshiba would have an MI over
@taiji218 fact: Ki Aikido is recognized in EUROPE but not in Japan; the country of origin. There are similarities but different interpretations of thoese techniques.
@Wolfsbane909 "Recognized" by whom? The Hombu dojo? Why would the Hombu dojo recognize an organization it sees as a competitor? There are some 30,000 Ki-Aikido practitioners in Japan and some 100,000 world wide.
By the way, why did you put "Europe" in all-caps?
I believe in encouraging people to think for themselves. Find the art that you're happiest with and go for it. Don't let somebody else do your thinking for you. There's no need to put others down who don't do it your way.
@taiji218 I am not putting u down, what i simply stated was fact. The founder of Ki Aikido broke away from the original Aikido of o sensei and started his own Ki Aikido. You have your own believe I have my own. I have always held belief that Ueshiba should be honoured & respected as thoese of his kin, he was the original founder after all.
I am not putting u down, just stating facts. Aikido isn't about competition it was what O sensi would've wanted. However do whatever u want.
ok, all of you people that say aikido is fake or to old, or inaffective, have you ever actually done a technique, have you ever been to a single training with a real sensei???? i myself got thrown 5 meters by a little girls who is 4 times lighter than me and 12 years younger (im 24) in training, so tell me which part of that is fake or obsolete???? don't trash something you know nothing about, if you could learn aikido by watching it on youtube, everyone would be a master, silly people.
@morbidni3 I did learn a little bit aikido from the tube but mostly I learned bjj and judo and I must say it is great. i can now compete with black belts and stand my own and sometimes score an ippon:) but aikido takes many years to master and like I said I learned in 3 months like a normal practitioners would in 3 years,the techniques I mean.tc bye bye
Ki Aikido is for people who don't get Aikido. You can be very soft and extremely dynamic with Aikido itself.
In the 21st century Ki Aikido is obsolete as there are many beautiful Aikido Senseis who know how to teach well. Their bobbing up and down is silly and embarrassing.
Working through the centre, grounding the body can put delayed recoil on the upper torso, which gives the Ki Aikido dynamics.
If someone says that Aikido is not effective, then they don't know it well.
@fudo9 The "bobbing up and down" utilizes the inherent power of skipping to generate tremendous effortless power. It is utilized in less obvious fashion in a number of other arts, including taijiquan and baguazhan. If you wish to experience the power of "bobbing up and down" in person, check out John Ely in the Chicago area. He' s the softest martial artist I know of, next to Vladimir Vasiliev. He's even softer than Tohei was.
The guy says he took up Aikido to defend himself against aggressive knife-wielding passengers in his taxi. That is ridiculous. A can of pepper spray would have been way more useful for that purpose.
Yes but you must understand that practicng Aikido allows you to use your can of pepper spray(Illegal in many countries)
in a more effective way and disarm the person with the knife more safely as well.
However most people learn Aikido and never get taught the correct way to apply what they learn in the dojo to real life, they try to do the practice techniques in a situation and can't. Using what Aikido teaches you in a real fight means improvising and it looks nothing like Aikido.
"ki" aikido shouldn't even be called aikido! sensei would have heart attack at such an insult, "Tohei' went rouge years ago leaving the aikido federation to start his own art shortly after the death of founder ueshiba(surprised?).
Wolfsbane909 1 year ago
@Wolfsbane909 Tohei was Uyeshiba's head instructor. When Uyeshiba died, his son took over as head of the Hombu dojo. Uyeshiba's son disliked Tohei's position as head instructor and a turf battle essentially started. Tohei left when it became evident to all that there was not going to be an amicable solution to the problem. It was hardly "going rogue." Tohei's introduction of Ki instruction was his attempt to make the art more accessible to others. Hardly something Uyeshiba would have an MI over
taiji218 1 year ago
@taiji218 fact: Ki Aikido is recognized in EUROPE but not in Japan; the country of origin. There are similarities but different interpretations of thoese techniques.
Wolfsbane909 1 year ago
@Wolfsbane909 "Recognized" by whom? The Hombu dojo? Why would the Hombu dojo recognize an organization it sees as a competitor? There are some 30,000 Ki-Aikido practitioners in Japan and some 100,000 world wide.
By the way, why did you put "Europe" in all-caps?
I believe in encouraging people to think for themselves. Find the art that you're happiest with and go for it. Don't let somebody else do your thinking for you. There's no need to put others down who don't do it your way.
taiji218 1 year ago
@taiji218 I am not putting u down, what i simply stated was fact. The founder of Ki Aikido broke away from the original Aikido of o sensei and started his own Ki Aikido. You have your own believe I have my own. I have always held belief that Ueshiba should be honoured & respected as thoese of his kin, he was the original founder after all.
I am not putting u down, just stating facts. Aikido isn't about competition it was what O sensi would've wanted. However do whatever u want.
Wolfsbane909 1 year ago
ok, all of you people that say aikido is fake or to old, or inaffective, have you ever actually done a technique, have you ever been to a single training with a real sensei???? i myself got thrown 5 meters by a little girls who is 4 times lighter than me and 12 years younger (im 24) in training, so tell me which part of that is fake or obsolete???? don't trash something you know nothing about, if you could learn aikido by watching it on youtube, everyone would be a master, silly people.
morbidni3 2 years ago 14
@morbidni3 I did learn a little bit aikido from the tube but mostly I learned bjj and judo and I must say it is great. i can now compete with black belts and stand my own and sometimes score an ippon:) but aikido takes many years to master and like I said I learned in 3 months like a normal practitioners would in 3 years,the techniques I mean.tc bye bye
MrUFClaw 7 months ago
Ki Aikido is for people who don't get Aikido. You can be very soft and extremely dynamic with Aikido itself.
In the 21st century Ki Aikido is obsolete as there are many beautiful Aikido Senseis who know how to teach well. Their bobbing up and down is silly and embarrassing.
Working through the centre, grounding the body can put delayed recoil on the upper torso, which gives the Ki Aikido dynamics.
If someone says that Aikido is not effective, then they don't know it well.
fudo9 3 years ago
@fudo9 The "bobbing up and down" utilizes the inherent power of skipping to generate tremendous effortless power. It is utilized in less obvious fashion in a number of other arts, including taijiquan and baguazhan. If you wish to experience the power of "bobbing up and down" in person, check out John Ely in the Chicago area. He' s the softest martial artist I know of, next to Vladimir Vasiliev. He's even softer than Tohei was.
taiji218 1 year ago
Nice vid! I have practice with teacher Soren in Florence and he did a class of Iaido in my/our dojo.
I appreciate him really much!
Hope to see him later
Shinaikido 3 years ago
Aikido is hard to understand.
Aikido is different to most martial arts as the practice techniques are NOT to be used as a form of self-defence or fighting system.
People who teach Aikido as self-defence and then teach it as "if they do this you do this technique" have no idea.
You don't use Aikido in a real fight you use the principles and body conditioning that practicing Aikido in the dojo have given you.
You do NOT try to do a textbook Aikido technique, it won't work 99% of the time
astiagogo 3 years ago 3
The guy says he took up Aikido to defend himself against aggressive knife-wielding passengers in his taxi. That is ridiculous. A can of pepper spray would have been way more useful for that purpose.
Derukugi2 3 years ago
Yes but you must understand that practicng Aikido allows you to use your can of pepper spray(Illegal in many countries)
in a more effective way and disarm the person with the knife more safely as well.
However most people learn Aikido and never get taught the correct way to apply what they learn in the dojo to real life, they try to do the practice techniques in a situation and can't. Using what Aikido teaches you in a real fight means improvising and it looks nothing like Aikido.
astiagogo 3 years ago
It looks like acting
juankFTW 4 years ago
it looks so relaxed and slow...
CJLgirx 4 years ago
bull shit
shangrila107 4 years ago
meu nome tbm é dalsgaard , sou do brasil
fuckmeeenice 4 years ago
Interesting documentary. Congratulation and best regards from Ki-Aikido in Berlin Marzahn-Hellersdorf
askerde 4 years ago