What does this have to do with Obama? Remind me, who's been talking about using that stimulus money to promote 'green jobs' for almost 3 years now? Are you really this fucking dumb?
This company just folded. They never got any private investors involved. It was started up with gov't money. The city of Salinas, CA. gave Ryan $540,000 of taxpayers money; he got more from the state of CA. also. And when the gov't money ran out and there was no private investors coming in, the company folded.
Over $40,000 for a 3 wheeled piece of crap. A 5-16 hour charge time and you have to charge daily. Fucking dipshits. Why not just get a motorcycle for $7,000?
Liberals despise corporate handouts when said handouts result in the companies actually creating products that people want to use. But throw the money down the well of a left wing pipe dream and somehow they forget about "evil corporations".
@loetzfan You would think liberals might realize their mistake, but I can already hear them cry because the company did not get the other $2.7m state govt money they wanted to produce this thing. If there was every remote chance this would make a dime, private guys would have been all over it.
@TajiTJ I personally love electric cars, but we are much better off without hideous vehicles like this. Give me more Tesla Roadsters Model S and Nissan Leaf type electrics and people will buy them. This thing was a joke.
im so glad I still have my 206 H2 Hummer..lol...with my "Global Warming is a Hoax" Bumper sticker.lol....AHHHHH libs!!!!!!!!!! = losers!!!!! lol.....ahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!lol...
HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! Suckerssssssss. BANKRUPT, BIOTCH. Liberalism fails every time. Look at that thing. It's a fricking automated wheelbarrow to push cow manure in the field.
A Salinas car manufacturing company that was expected to build environmentally friendly electric cars and create new jobs folded before any cars could run off the assembly line.
The city of Salinas had invested more than half a million dollars in Green Vehicles, an electric car start-up company.
Damn the fed.. if you actually take the time to research it.. you'll discover most of the woes of rising fuel prices go back to the fed which is monitizing the debt and inflating the U.S. dollar. Oil, being sold in dollars, is adjusted by OPEC according to inflation, so they don't lose their profit margin.... I'm not defending OPEC, but this problem is closer to home... with low oil prices/more efficiency there isn't really an ermergancy that requires an immediate altarnative energy source.
Obama says are demand for fuel is dropping because we are more efficient. Wrong. We just can't afford it. Why do you think new small electric car manufacturers are popping up all over the U.S..
I sold my New Chevy Truck for a 3 wheel Electric car and I love it. I was only using it to go to work and @ $3.85 a gallon I'm saving $256 a month now and my electric bill has gone up $7. Now I'm driving twice as much as I use to. It is true freedom! Going to the park more to feed the ducks and Mountain biking way more cause it was a 75 mile trip and then I went to the store after and that would have cost me $20 just for that one day of driving.
Wake up people! A electric car is True freedom! You have no Idea how much more you drive when you know it’s not costing you and arm and a leg just to Live and Work. Be good little Americans an do what the Big Brother tells you. wikipedia OPEC, and terrorist countries. US government is making a mistake supporting terrorist countries Americans don't care about oil. We just want to get from A to B. Oh and by the way! A 3 wheel car hits everything on the road. Live or Dead! : )
i'll better make my own conversion instead of paying for this 25k.What is wrong with people creating 25k 3 wheeled electric vehicles?ugly and expensive
@liviooo18 there nothing wrong in there, electric powered vehicle still in developpement, this one is a "prototype" however, rome didn't build in one day, so the will be beautiful and unexpensif vehicle, or you the one don`t care about nature and the impact on use oil and other stuff like that that are really bad for not the environnement but for the humain himself.
The whole issue of "burning coal that creates more pollution" is simply not true. It's like a lot of things on paper that some people try to work out, but in the real world it's quite different.
The key point of this is that the pollution is being emitted at ONE location instead of thousands. The ability to control the emissions at one location is going to be much more standardized. Having thousands of "power plants" dripping oil and spilling fuel is much harder to quantify.
For that they have a protector but as evidenced by the explosive case of notebooks, that may fail (also happened with a batch of Nokia batteries for some time).
Of course, you are correct Li-Ion batteries have a fire risk. However, if you think about it for a while, I don't think the risk is as great as you fear. Firstly, I have on my person two Li-Ion batteries and another one under the palms of my hands. This is pretty common and yet incidents of fires are low. It can be managed. Secondly, current cars have gasoline in them. This is very dangerous and burns. We are just used to that risk.
It is contradictory to the concept because we still using electricity and consumed , imagine several million of these cars uses electricity ,I think the concept would be more interesting if using solar energy
Electric cars are not going to solve any environmental problem or the problem of dependence on oil, because most of the electricity produced on the planet is with oil, electric cars and the only thing we would do is move this consumption
The problem of electric cars are the batteries. There are currently no batteries capable of fulfilling that role. Hopefully in the next few years things have changed but for now there are two alternatives:
1) Nickel batteries (NiMh or NiCd old). The problem is that take a long time to load and wait to be unloaded to reload. If the recharge before affects the memory effect and are ruined.
2) lithium batteries (Li-Ion and Li-Polymer). Store more energy and can be recharged at any time, but have another problem: its lifetime is very short. Between 200 to 500 recharges and their performance falls below 20%. Another problem we have is that they are very dangerous.
It is well known that the issue of exploding notebook batteries. And if heated to explode .. and is that overheating is very easy: simply excessive use or not to stop the load when overheated. For that they have a protector but as evidenced by the explosive case of notebooks, that may fail (also happened with a batch of Nokia batteries for some time).
Some chinese batteries have exploded yes but you get what you pay for. There are video's in youtube of batteries being drilled through, cooked etc for those that have safety concerns.
It is very difficult to get cycle life data on batteries, but here is what I have found. Doing 100% DOD (depth of discharge) testing on modern Li-Ion batteries show a life of about 2000 cycles. Failure is generally counted when capacity drops to 80% of nominal capacity. So even after 2000 cycles, 80% of the battery capacity is still available.
Even more interesting is some testing done by Japan's NASA. Apparently low earth satellites experience many day/night cycles per day. So batteries are cycled many times a day. They have tested Li-Ion batteries for six years cycling them 25,000 at a 40% DOD and the batteries survived. So the good news is that high cycle life is possible, the bad news is that you cannot fully discharge your battery pack each day.
a123 batteries are fine. Problem is that oil and big car manufacturers are stifling competition from electric cars by purchasing patents to battery technology.
Well for long trips, charging time is an issue. But for commuting, the charging time is not a problem. Plug the car in at home and/or at work and you will spend less time per week than going to the gas station.
If we are to leave the house and we find that we have 20% of battery can not charge it because it ruins, but we can make a long stretch because it reaches us.
Only a small percentage of electricity is made with gasoline. Most is made from dirty USA coal, nuclear, clean USA natural gas, and hydro. So if the concern is foreign oil, EV's are a fix. The really cool thing about EV's is that electricity can be made from a variety of sources, wind, solar, etc. So it provides at least the hope of a clean energy future.
Lunar energy is stable. The French Rance Tidal Power Station proves that energy can be generated from tides at a cost of 1.5 cents per kwh instead of the 4 to 15 cents per kwh for gas, coal or nuclear technologies.
So far, nobody has been able to make a storage system that even comes close to the amount of energy contained in chemical fuel, even with the low yields of gasoline engines.
Hopefully in the future that will change but for now nothing
I think you are missing the point. Don't think of an EV as a direct replacement of the car, yet. Personally, I can get to work in many ways. I can bicycle, walk (a little far though), take public transport, or drive my gasoline car. For me, an EV is a perfect commuting car. 10 miles to work, 10 miles back home. I don't need the 400 mile range offered by my gas car.
That's the best point that most people don't yet realize. Most average driving is about 25-30 miles daily. If you plug in every night you're never going to miss the range of the petrol car. If you can plug in at work in addition, you're going to have plenty of juice for running around town after work.
People don't think about being able to "fill up" at home every day.
@JohnCBriggs That's interesting. I've heard that there are a few states that have issues with vehicles like this. Hopefully they are on track to make some changes in that regard.
@Arthurb06 Sad but true. As I have been bicycling to work lately, I have to breath the exhaust from such vehicles. I have also newly found respect for CNG (compressed Natural Gas) vehicles. They may be fossil fuel burners, but the exhaust is pretty clean.
wow shitbox and a half.. i'd love to see it go in a corner a tad faster lol. this shit would flip like crazy. 25k for that.. i'd rather get a decent bike.
it cant be more green than a bicycle
kammenosgr 1 month ago
This thing is perfect. can I still get one?!?!?
dragonamt 6 months ago
What does this have to do with Obama? Remind me, who's been talking about using that stimulus money to promote 'green jobs' for almost 3 years now? Are you really this fucking dumb?
Wulfgardson 7 months ago
This company just folded. They never got any private investors involved. It was started up with gov't money. The city of Salinas, CA. gave Ryan $540,000 of taxpayers money; he got more from the state of CA. also. And when the gov't money ran out and there was no private investors coming in, the company folded.
Wulfgardson 7 months ago
HaHa They apparently did not kiss a kenyan communist ass to get unlimited tax payers subsidies, like the pieces of crap Volts.
alwaysright5 7 months ago
Company went belly up taking tax payer Cash
ChemicalBurn123A 7 months ago
Company went belly up taking tax payer
ChemicalBurn123A 7 months ago
Hey, Salinas I can get you a good deal on a bridge in Manhattan if you'd like! LOL! Suckers!
RadioFreeCanada1 7 months ago
Why would anyone pay $25k for a trike?!?!
MrIdontcarewhatever 7 months ago
Loser!
batfly 7 months ago
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batfly 7 months ago
Another success for the 0bama economy. LOL
Over $40,000 for a 3 wheeled piece of crap. A 5-16 hour charge time and you have to charge daily. Fucking dipshits. Why not just get a motorcycle for $7,000?
jackzero99 7 months ago
@jackzero99 what does this have to do with obama? Get a life.
lifeismasked 7 months ago
@lifeismasked 0bungholes green economy is a failure. Even with $7500 taxpayer subsidies for electric cars, the companies cannot survive.
jackzero99 7 months ago
@jackzero99 I think you may have some deep seeded mental issues that you keep mentioning Obama. Losers just find people to blame for being losers.
lifeismasked 7 months ago
@lifeismasked The facts hurt, don't they boy?
jackzero99 7 months ago
not to bad actually, only the price is way high
lytealight 7 months ago
YEAH, i REALLY WANNA CHARGE MY CAR EVERY HOUR. FUCKIN STUPID
TEHTYMEKITTEH1 7 months ago 2
NOT EVEN GAY GREEN DOUCHEBAG LIBERALS BOUGHT THIS PIECE OF CRAP.
TEHTYMEKITTEH1 7 months ago 2
Suckas! Salinas - you deserve to lose $500,000 for falling for the "green jobs" mythology pushed by D'ohbama and his minions.
63utuber 7 months ago 2
Liberals despise corporate handouts when said handouts result in the companies actually creating products that people want to use. But throw the money down the well of a left wing pipe dream and somehow they forget about "evil corporations".
loetzfan 7 months ago
@loetzfan You would think liberals might realize their mistake, but I can already hear them cry because the company did not get the other $2.7m state govt money they wanted to produce this thing. If there was every remote chance this would make a dime, private guys would have been all over it.
TajiTJ 7 months ago 2
@TajiTJ I personally love electric cars, but we are much better off without hideous vehicles like this. Give me more Tesla Roadsters Model S and Nissan Leaf type electrics and people will buy them. This thing was a joke.
jason1973tl 5 months ago in playlist T - Electric 3-wheels
im so glad I still have my 206 H2 Hummer..lol...with my "Global Warming is a Hoax" Bumper sticker.lol....AHHHHH libs!!!!!!!!!! = losers!!!!! lol.....ahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!lol...
IdiotsForObamaCom 7 months ago 2
lmao...LIBS FAIL AT EVERYTHING!! LMAO...!!! HAAAAAAAA!!!!!!! lol...see IDIOTS4OBAMA COM for more idiots.
IdiotsForObamaCom 7 months ago
the city of Salinas deserves everthing it gets
.. This is why cities should stay out of investing in business. Greed , Greed , Greed
no free lunches here Mr Governmnet pension man.
have fun explaining this one to the Sheeple/voters
canyonrafters 7 months ago 2
HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! Suckerssssssss. BANKRUPT, BIOTCH. Liberalism fails every time. Look at that thing. It's a fricking automated wheelbarrow to push cow manure in the field.
KickDownDoors 7 months ago
A Salinas car manufacturing company that was expected to build environmentally friendly electric cars and create new jobs folded before any cars could run off the assembly line.
The city of Salinas had invested more than half a million dollars in Green Vehicles, an electric car start-up company.
RBEglobal 7 months ago
$ 25 K for this to much , $ 27 K new mercedes C class
people can not afford this , only if u drop the price on 11 K
vdxx 7 months ago
UGLY!
cmfluteguy 8 months ago
Why is so ugly?????
propalismo 9 months ago
Damn the fed.. if you actually take the time to research it.. you'll discover most of the woes of rising fuel prices go back to the fed which is monitizing the debt and inflating the U.S. dollar. Oil, being sold in dollars, is adjusted by OPEC according to inflation, so they don't lose their profit margin.... I'm not defending OPEC, but this problem is closer to home... with low oil prices/more efficiency there isn't really an ermergancy that requires an immediate altarnative energy source.
Warcauser 10 months ago
Obama says are demand for fuel is dropping because we are more efficient. Wrong. We just can't afford it. Why do you think new small electric car manufacturers are popping up all over the U.S..
cyberjackoff 11 months ago
I sold my New Chevy Truck for a 3 wheel Electric car and I love it. I was only using it to go to work and @ $3.85 a gallon I'm saving $256 a month now and my electric bill has gone up $7. Now I'm driving twice as much as I use to. It is true freedom! Going to the park more to feed the ducks and Mountain biking way more cause it was a 75 mile trip and then I went to the store after and that would have cost me $20 just for that one day of driving.
cyberjackoff 11 months ago
Wake up people! A electric car is True freedom! You have no Idea how much more you drive when you know it’s not costing you and arm and a leg just to Live and Work. Be good little Americans an do what the Big Brother tells you. wikipedia OPEC, and terrorist countries. US government is making a mistake supporting terrorist countries Americans don't care about oil. We just want to get from A to B. Oh and by the way! A 3 wheel car hits everything on the road. Live or Dead! : )
cyberjackoff 11 months ago
i'll better make my own conversion instead of paying for this 25k.What is wrong with people creating 25k 3 wheeled electric vehicles?ugly and expensive
liviooo18 1 year ago 2
@liviooo18 there nothing wrong in there, electric powered vehicle still in developpement, this one is a "prototype" however, rome didn't build in one day, so the will be beautiful and unexpensif vehicle, or you the one don`t care about nature and the impact on use oil and other stuff like that that are really bad for not the environnement but for the humain himself.
TheWillsono 1 year ago
3 wheels would make harder to run over already dead road kill.
eugenestrawberry 1 year ago
The whole issue of "burning coal that creates more pollution" is simply not true. It's like a lot of things on paper that some people try to work out, but in the real world it's quite different.
The key point of this is that the pollution is being emitted at ONE location instead of thousands. The ability to control the emissions at one location is going to be much more standardized. Having thousands of "power plants" dripping oil and spilling fuel is much harder to quantify.
Keveeee2000 1 year ago
2:58 This EV is manufactured by Xinming Group in China, not the USA. Same applies with the batteries.
nznev45 2 years ago
would be awesome only if it were 4 wheels instead of 3.
JUKIO01 2 years ago
For that they have a protector but as evidenced by the explosive case of notebooks, that may fail (also happened with a batch of Nokia batteries for some time).
vendavalgran 2 years ago
Of course, you are correct Li-Ion batteries have a fire risk. However, if you think about it for a while, I don't think the risk is as great as you fear. Firstly, I have on my person two Li-Ion batteries and another one under the palms of my hands. This is pretty common and yet incidents of fires are low. It can be managed. Secondly, current cars have gasoline in them. This is very dangerous and burns. We are just used to that risk.
JohnCBriggs 2 years ago
if they halve the price with better design and more performance then it will be the iPod of the automotive industry.
nurbsenvi 2 years ago
It is contradictory to the concept because we still using electricity and consumed , imagine several million of these cars uses electricity ,I think the concept would be more interesting if using solar energy
vendavalgran 2 years ago
@vendavalgran
it's idiots like you stopping the evolution of automotive.
1. Electricity is more efficient then gas regardless of it's source.
2. Electricity is generated away from city and residential area.
3. Electricity will not always come from carbon fuel in the future.
4. you should STFU
nurbsenvi 2 years ago
Electric cars are not going to solve any environmental problem or the problem of dependence on oil, because most of the electricity produced on the planet is with oil, electric cars and the only thing we would do is move this consumption
vendavalgran 2 years ago
The problem of electric cars are the batteries. There are currently no batteries capable of fulfilling that role. Hopefully in the next few years things have changed but for now there are two alternatives:
1) Nickel batteries (NiMh or NiCd old). The problem is that take a long time to load and wait to be unloaded to reload. If the recharge before affects the memory effect and are ruined.
vendavalgran 2 years ago
2) lithium batteries (Li-Ion and Li-Polymer). Store more energy and can be recharged at any time, but have another problem: its lifetime is very short. Between 200 to 500 recharges and their performance falls below 20%. Another problem we have is that they are very dangerous.
vendavalgran 2 years ago
It is well known that the issue of exploding notebook batteries. And if heated to explode .. and is that overheating is very easy: simply excessive use or not to stop the load when overheated. For that they have a protector but as evidenced by the explosive case of notebooks, that may fail (also happened with a batch of Nokia batteries for some time).
vendavalgran 2 years ago
Some chinese batteries have exploded yes but you get what you pay for. There are video's in youtube of batteries being drilled through, cooked etc for those that have safety concerns.
0urGaia 2 years ago
think a123 cells are 4000 cycles or more.
0urGaia 2 years ago
It is very difficult to get cycle life data on batteries, but here is what I have found. Doing 100% DOD (depth of discharge) testing on modern Li-Ion batteries show a life of about 2000 cycles. Failure is generally counted when capacity drops to 80% of nominal capacity. So even after 2000 cycles, 80% of the battery capacity is still available.
JohnCBriggs 2 years ago
Even more interesting is some testing done by Japan's NASA. Apparently low earth satellites experience many day/night cycles per day. So batteries are cycled many times a day. They have tested Li-Ion batteries for six years cycling them 25,000 at a 40% DOD and the batteries survived. So the good news is that high cycle life is possible, the bad news is that you cannot fully discharge your battery pack each day.
JohnCBriggs 2 years ago
a123 batteries are fine. Problem is that oil and big car manufacturers are stifling competition from electric cars by purchasing patents to battery technology.
0urGaia 2 years ago
Well for long trips, charging time is an issue. But for commuting, the charging time is not a problem. Plug the car in at home and/or at work and you will spend less time per week than going to the gas station.
JohnCBriggs 2 years ago
If we are to leave the house and we find that we have 20% of battery can not charge it because it ruins, but we can make a long stretch because it reaches us.
N addition to that, they are bulky and heavy.
vendavalgran 2 years ago
No doubt, batteries are bulky and heavy. Perhaps worse, they are expensive. But is the alternative to continue with the pollution of gasoline?
JohnCBriggs 2 years ago
Only a small percentage of electricity is made with gasoline. Most is made from dirty USA coal, nuclear, clean USA natural gas, and hydro. So if the concern is foreign oil, EV's are a fix. The really cool thing about EV's is that electricity can be made from a variety of sources, wind, solar, etc. So it provides at least the hope of a clean energy future.
JohnCBriggs 2 years ago
Well oil plants are rarely used today. Neither wind nor solar can replace coal or oil, for the simple fact that they are not stable.
vendavalgran 2 years ago
Lunar energy is stable. The French Rance Tidal Power Station proves that energy can be generated from tides at a cost of 1.5 cents per kwh instead of the 4 to 15 cents per kwh for gas, coal or nuclear technologies.
0urGaia 2 years ago
So far, nobody has been able to make a storage system that even comes close to the amount of energy contained in chemical fuel, even with the low yields of gasoline engines.
Hopefully in the future that will change but for now nothing
vendavalgran 2 years ago
I think you are missing the point. Don't think of an EV as a direct replacement of the car, yet. Personally, I can get to work in many ways. I can bicycle, walk (a little far though), take public transport, or drive my gasoline car. For me, an EV is a perfect commuting car. 10 miles to work, 10 miles back home. I don't need the 400 mile range offered by my gas car.
JohnCBriggs 2 years ago
@JohnCBriggs
That's the best point that most people don't yet realize. Most average driving is about 25-30 miles daily. If you plug in every night you're never going to miss the range of the petrol car. If you can plug in at work in addition, you're going to have plenty of juice for running around town after work.
People don't think about being able to "fill up" at home every day.
Keveeee2000 1 year ago
@Keveeee2000 Unfortunately for me, Massachusetts will not let me register one of these vehicles.
JohnCBriggs 1 year ago
@JohnCBriggs That's interesting. I've heard that there are a few states that have issues with vehicles like this. Hopefully they are on track to make some changes in that regard.
Keveeee2000 1 year ago
@JohnCBriggs Yet gas guzzling hummers are legal.
Arthurb06 1 year ago
@Arthurb06 Sad but true. As I have been bicycling to work lately, I have to breath the exhaust from such vehicles. I have also newly found respect for CNG (compressed Natural Gas) vehicles. They may be fossil fuel burners, but the exhaust is pretty clean.
JohnCBriggs 1 year ago
Wow, what a great concept. I can't wait to see one in person.
tyheyn 2 years ago
Spectacular automotive achievement. I suppose the future is here.
JosephNicholasCarey 2 years ago
wow shitbox and a half.. i'd love to see it go in a corner a tad faster lol. this shit would flip like crazy. 25k for that.. i'd rather get a decent bike.
psy06 2 years ago
peacie of shit truck kills it in crash
Mr1dc2KR3W3 2 years ago
A truck kills anything in a crash, make a real argument or don't bother commenting...
spinycrayfish 2 years ago
WOW... you guys need to get a test drive video up NOW!!!
nriqueog 2 years ago
love the car
007mrbilly 2 years ago