Rick Warren Asks Obama and McCain to Define Marriage

[Pilgrim812]

Someone should ask Rick Warren to define bigotry.

[TriniArabGirl]

Obama's a "Christian"???? Damn i didn't know Christians could beleive in things that are against God and them legalise them!! liar

[dekatko]

Very good answers, even though McCain isnt coming across too well.

[tlwolf86]

Homophiles fight tooth and nail to prevent the people from being allowed to vote on the subject, because when democracy prevails, homosexualism loses. In every jurisdiction where homophiles failed to prevent a referendum, homosexual marriage was easily defeated. The next step for homophiles is court shopping for an activist judge to thwart democracy and overturn the will of the people.

[Richy15251]

@tlwolf86 get an education

[SovereignBeing]

The Illuminati’s Council on Foreign Relations has enlisted the services of evangelicals, Pastor Rick Warren and Richard Land, to marshall tens of millions of evangelical Christians in a global crusade to convert humanity to the 'New Global Spirituality'.

These are 2 agents of Rockefeller's Council on Foreign Relations, a subversive org. working towards the destruction of a free America & installation of the One World government.

Rick Warren are working towards a one "unified" spiritual "body".

[Neanderthalcouzin]

within 10 seconds, bigoted statement precedes ignorant applause, and in the words of Herod in I Claudius "Posterity will call you an ass."

"Define marriage"

To polyandrous Nepalese woman: "between one woman and multiple men."

To most other cultures: "between one man and multiple women."

To racist from last century: "between same race man and same race woman."

To politician pandering to current religiously based homophobic mentality: "Between one man, and one woman."

[NCMan28025]

@Neanderthalcouzin Notice in your comment none say man/man or women/women? Why is that?

[Neanderthalcouzin]

@NCMan28025 Ah, thats easy to answer: I was giving examples of heterosexual marriages that are not within their definition, to try and show that their same-old dialogue they have every time, where they repeat this one-man one-woman idiotic mantra, is not even true for other heterosexual marriages across cultures and history.

My point was to show that marriage is fluid in definition, open to negotiation/change.

[NCMan28025]

@Neanderthalcouzin No, marriage has been defined for centuries. Without heterosexuality, humanity wouldn't exist, since 2 men can't reproduce. You are talking about mulitiple marriages, such as those that happen in the Muslim culture. Here, we are speaking of what we, in the US, define marriage. One man and one woman. Now if you can find a law that defines it differently, please provide the source. I'd love to read it.

[Neanderthalcouzin]

@NCMan28025 It is an ephemeral arbitrary definition,not absolute and historically as well as culturally non-universal and negotiable.That was the point, the point stands.So you’ve missed the point there,which was to show that it is culturally relative,historically relative, and again, negotiable.I dont take sole dictate from a written law or religious edict,in fact written law takes dictate from the exercise of reason and civil inclusion,used as a crucible to burn falsehood and inequity, cont...

[Neanderthalcouzin]

@NCMan28025 Goodbridge vs. Department of Public Health, MA, recognized same-sex marriage and exclusive heterosexual marriage as unconstitutional. They now recognize same-sex marriage, pending federal recognition. Stuff like this has also happened in DC, Connecticut, Vermont, etc.

Onto your reference to reproduction: plenty of infertile or post-reproductive, or through choice non reproductive, couples may marry. Should we deny them? This is not a logical argument.

[NCMan28025]

@Neanderthalcouzin Those are state issues, as it should be. Let the voters of each state decide. I like the 10th amendment.

[NCMan28025]

@Neanderthalcouzin Those are state issues, as it should be. Let the voters of each state decide. I like the 10th amendment. By they way, thanks for the links and thanks for keeping it civil.

[Neanderthalcouzin]

@NCMan28025 When they say *marriage is between one man and one woman* they factually, culturally, historically incorrect, even according to their book of fables. So if its not true as a statement of fact, why are they saying it? They repeat it as a brainwashed prescription, with essentially zero critical thinking. When we force politicians to study anthropology, and lift the education of the population, perhaps their narrow view of marriage would widen, making room for gay marriage.

[dukeljk]

No special Rights for gays. You made a choice live with it.

[idaman12345]

@dukeljk no gays want equal rights

its you bible thumpers that want special rights

[RobbytheLion]

Obama ought to know better than this. It's the same bigoted asswipes that are telling gays they cant get married that told his ancestors they couldn't marry ouside their race.

I'm still waiting for an athiest president. This country isn't going to make progress until then.

[bigbenforever1]

@RobbytheLion U mean the country will get DESTROYED when that happens this nation waz founded upon by GOD and the BIBLE!!! NOT ATHEISM!

[RobbytheLion]

@bigbenforever1 Actually it was founded upon SECULARISM with a few Biblical principles borrowed upon, like the 10 commandments. You need to read up on American history. I recommend anything on Thomas Jefferson.

[bigbenforever1]

@RobbytheLion If it wasnt founded upon the Bible then plzz explain y every inauguration day the president has to place his hand on the Bible and 2. how did we have so many revivals that made this country once great and3.I pledge alleigance to the flag.......................ONE NATION UNDER GOD

[RobbytheLion]

@bigbenforever1 They never specify which "God" they mean. Jesus? Allah? Vishnu? Odin? and using the Bible in the inauguration, or in court is a violation of the first amendment. Like I said, read up on the history of the consitution. We are guaranteed freedom of religion and freedom FROM religion. TJ was a secularist, possibly a Deist, but not a Christian. And BTW, that "under God" part of the pledge was not in the original, it was added in the 70s.

[idaman12345]

@bigbenforever1 1, not entirely sure but maybe because most of said presidents are religious not sure about 2 and 3: you do realize that was created to fight communism

america was not founded on christian brainwashing

if it was we would all be brainwashed christians

[kuroe702]

Marriage is between a man and a woman. That doesn't mean people are not free for gay partnership. So what if in the future people love their pet and say they want to marry them?? should we redefine marriage as a union between two living being? I do not wish to offend homosexual, I'm just saying maybe they can come out with a term for their own union term.

[hugiaino]

See my "Hugiaino" tube channel "How to Get Saved" - under "Religious Invitation". NO ONE CAN BEAT THIS!

tlk

[tighttritenight]

It is absolutely unbelievable that homosexuals are still not allowed to marry one another in some states. They are tax paying, law abiding citizens and yet they are banned from doing something which every free person should be able to do. It doesn't matter if you believe if they are immoral or not. Most christians believe that alcoholics are immoral, but they do not try to prevent them from getting married. Its 2009 people! Open your minds!

[ukimonkey9]

okay homosextual unions bad.. man+Woman Good.. End of story Sheesh!

[luckliberty]

I hate fags

[213grant]

@luckliberty me too. everyone that voted your comment down is a homo.

[joachimsallstrom]

I just want to comment about these cut videos of Warren, Obama and McCain. I think it gives a wrong view on both Obama and McCain when the clips gives McCain most space and the editor of the cut puts him at the end. It's been like that for some videos now that I've seen put up on youtube. I think that is very near to documentarism which means that you mix fiction with reality. Don't we want a full picture of Obama's/McCain's views on different issues instead of just making action hero trailers?

[paigelz04]

oh snap.. thought you said that your for gay marriage mr. brack husan oboma.. I cant believe hes going to be our president.. omg..

BARACK.. HUSAN.. OBAMA. that doesnt sounds right

[roullettechick]

He never said that, it was just gossip propaganda. Ppl do your homework next time, this isnt a freakin football game! Vote green next time!!

[paigelz04]

yes he did. and he is still actively saying it. Listen to his conferences.

[kwadruple]

it doesn't sound right because you can't spell it correctly you half-wit.

[impulse981]

Why do some people support laws that govern an entire superpower society based on a Bible and 'faith based' when we don't even know if these foundings are accurate? Look what happens when those who devote themselves to Allaha become extreme and bomb buildings in the name and honor of their God - yet they say the Koran (or Quran) are 100% accurate and from God! Is that next for us, for all you religious freaks that believe 100% that the Bible is the governing soul of the entire earth? Freaks.

[AmosPressley]

In his famous novel "1984," Orwell talked about how a population can be manipulated and the opposition can be nullified through changing the meaning of words. The homosexual community has been very successful at using media to make this happen.

The very word "gay" does not mean what it meant 50 years ago. We all know that. Now, they are going after the word "marriage."

Hebrews 13:4 says "Marriage is honorable in all, and the bed undefiled..." Will that include homosex for our grandkids?

[dehdehsac323]

that was a good book with an interesting sex scene but i dont think the gays are conspiring like you think they are for a new "Word" order

lol.

[AmosPressley]

I understand your skepticism, but I have been following this for a long time, my friend. I used to have a list of periodicals at the local university library I would read simply because I did not agree with them. One was a radical academic underground "Queer" magazine whose name I cannot remember. I do remember thinking as I read their rage against me and the church that it was a good thing that they could never be taken seriously enough for their agenda to succeed.

I was very seriously wrong.

[PokemonTrainerRachel]

Bad editing!

Here's a quote from Obama's full answer: "I do believe in civil unions.. That for a gay partners to want to visit eachother in the hospital, for the state to say 'that's alright' has nothing to do with my core beliefs about marriage.I can afford those civil rights to others. Even if I have a different perspective or different view."

Fifty years ago, a bartender could not serve a homosexual. Look how far we've come since then. A civil union would sitll be a tremendous vicotry.

[starclassics]

I think that a civil union is ok. I think the main thing is...is this a nation that holds Christianity as its main religion, or do we disregard it completely? that..is the main argument.