rather then putting up pointless demonstrations like these, film an actual match/spar where you put it to real use. If Hapkido can engage in real spars, you should be able to do something similar. I hope your students didn't buy into your "skill" based on your showmanship.
@thehymner The point of a demonstration is to show something. You may not like or understand what is being demonstrated, but that doens't mean its pointless. Maybe it is to you, but then again, some people might argue your posting is pointless and not a bit disrespectful at that. It is not so much a question of can I engage in real spars ( what is a "real" sparring match, if not a contradiction in terms if related to "real use or fighting") but do I want to. Not really. I have nothing to prove.
@aikistok Sorry but I agree with everybody else that your demonstrations suck and that you're only good in slow motion against an opponent who is allowing himself to be easily taken down.
@JohnnyBoyCali At least I'm good at something. Once again, and I know reading is a bit difficult if you have your opinion already set: these clips were made in making a book. In shooting photographs for it. Having an opponent fight me at every turn would make for a not so good book. But if you want to close your mind, be my guest. See how far that flies.
Wonderful how every expert gets involved.....cross train..go try it. Every martial art has something to offer....people should learn to shut up....and ....well learn. Aikido is not the be all end all....it is an approach. Most people who yap, haven't even tried aikido....some who have, trained for a month......when you get to shodan....you only start to learn...then you appreciate what it is. Is it the magin pill? No it isn't.......the pill my friends does not exist. Only training does.
drogi " mistrzu taekwondo" nie mów nic o tym czy coś sie uda czy nie jeżeli nie ćwiczysz aikido przynajmniej pare lat bo ja równie dobrze moge powiedzieć że takwondo jest do dupy, ale nie mówie bo szanuje sztukę.powiedz czemu w taekwondo kopie sie STOPAMI? to jest bat taki jak twoje baty na aikido. Ja nie wiem czemu tak, a ty nie wiesz czemu tak. pozostawmy to ,nie komentujmy ( a tak szczeże ten film faktycznie jest do dupy, ci senseie to racze czarne plastry a nie czarne pasy )aikido to nie to!
its not easy to capture a mwashi geri (a kick ) from an opponent as it looks in this video, I left Aikido and joined daido Kodo instead ( Kyokushing & BJJ ) cos its the real thing, Im not against any style but one thing for sure is an opponent is unpredictable & you gotta be a direct hitter
Dear Taekwondo Master. As it says in the info, what is shown are images made during the maing of the book. It isn't real-time. So the performance a such is different and the application. But avoiding a kick, yes, that is not that difficult.
Actually, in aikido, aikijujutsu, & hapkido, we're taught to face every kind of strikes in every conditions (you'll find this mainly in Ki/Shin Shin Toitsu Aikido). The basic conecept are: "Defeat the opponent/s by their own power/s" & "Defeat the opponent/s before being touched."
I study aikido. just got into a bad fight with a drunk guy. He punced and missed then came at my throat, arms out streched like you see in all those aikido videos people laugh at. I threw him Irimi nage into a wall. then kicked his head clean through it knocking him out. Thankfully Aikido works.
Thank you for the compliment ;-). A number of the techniques have worked in Jiu Jitsu fighting system matches (these matches are similair to karate kumite but include nage waza and ne waza), and have worked quite well.
I am quite impressed. I am truly happy to see more people like yourself contributing to what I feel is a very unexplored region of Aikido practice. In fact, I always felt that there was a gap in our practice that needed filling and am doing my best to contribute to filling that gap also. Once again, Congratulations and keep up the good work.
For years people have resisted the application of Aikido techniques to Kicking attacks. My feeling has always been, that even if you are more interested in Aikido as an Art or Way, it must still retain it's Martial integrity to remain current, viable and relevant. If you are interested you can check a clip of the video presentation that I am currently working on. Also a work in progress.
I could not agree more. I checked out your clip. A lot of stuff looks quite similar though the approach varies. I do not work as much on the foot (or ankle joint) at the moment anyway. But the rest is clearly quite similar. Interesting irimi nage option.
(Continued) An example from the BB Magazine article: A TKDist may first begin with a fake kick as a bait which an aikidoka tries to dodge/catch. The very split second the aikidoka tries to catch/dodge the fake kick, the TKDist in a flash replants his starting leg and using his another leg, launches the real, decisive full-force kick to the unexpecting aikidoka, smashing the aikidoka's head or rib or any unguarded body part, thus finishing the aikidoka off.
Thanks for the reaction. I guess it depends on the aikidoka facing the Taekwondoka. The techniques are there and can work. It's up to the practitioner to make them work.
I study a particular style of Aikido and can say it doesn't exactly work like that. It would make sense if Aikido were like baseball and you just stand in one place waiting to catch the ball and are still standing in the same place after it's caught...and/or ball throw is faked and then you are still in the same place for the real ball to hit you in the head... but in Aikido this stuff usually takes place while in motion.
The taisabaki movements we practice teach us to change positions constantly so by the time you have replanted for another kick he could be behind you. In other words, there is no real way for the attacker to know when/if/where an Aikidoka is gonna move if he even knows who he is fighting to begin with. In all fairness, that doesn't discount the attacker getting lucky. :-)
Nice defense techniques. Thumbs up! In the other hand though, there are some articles in past editions of Black Belt Magazine (US) showing some ways how offensive stylists (eg. karate/TKD) can deceive and defeat defensive stylists' eg. an aikidoka's kick defenses.
Thanks Mark! Leuk dat je kwam kijken. Het filmpje geeft een idee van wat we hebben gedaan maar is eigenlijk te vluchtig om echt recht te doen aan het boek. Was wel leuk om te maken.
Interesting techniques but, blocking a mawashi-geri with what seems to be your knee is never a good idea, you might end-up with your kneecap flying.
flooddrop 8 months ago
@flooddrop Its not the knee, the shin, as they do in muay thai. And it is not a block essentially.
aikistok 7 months ago
rather then putting up pointless demonstrations like these, film an actual match/spar where you put it to real use. If Hapkido can engage in real spars, you should be able to do something similar. I hope your students didn't buy into your "skill" based on your showmanship.
thehymner 1 year ago
@thehymner The point of a demonstration is to show something. You may not like or understand what is being demonstrated, but that doens't mean its pointless. Maybe it is to you, but then again, some people might argue your posting is pointless and not a bit disrespectful at that. It is not so much a question of can I engage in real spars ( what is a "real" sparring match, if not a contradiction in terms if related to "real use or fighting") but do I want to. Not really. I have nothing to prove.
aikistok 1 year ago 3
@thehymer And thanks for worrying about my students. They are OK though. Maybe you would like to join the one day.
aikistok 1 year ago
@aikistok Sorry but I agree with everybody else that your demonstrations suck and that you're only good in slow motion against an opponent who is allowing himself to be easily taken down.
JohnnyBoyCali 1 year ago
@JohnnyBoyCali At least I'm good at something. Once again, and I know reading is a bit difficult if you have your opinion already set: these clips were made in making a book. In shooting photographs for it. Having an opponent fight me at every turn would make for a not so good book. But if you want to close your mind, be my guest. See how far that flies.
aikistok 1 year ago
Wonderful how every expert gets involved.....cross train..go try it. Every martial art has something to offer....people should learn to shut up....and ....well learn. Aikido is not the be all end all....it is an approach. Most people who yap, haven't even tried aikido....some who have, trained for a month......when you get to shodan....you only start to learn...then you appreciate what it is. Is it the magin pill? No it isn't.......the pill my friends does not exist. Only training does.
Karbouchard 1 year ago
@Karbouchard 3 years
mmakid1980 1 year ago
drogi " mistrzu taekwondo" nie mów nic o tym czy coś sie uda czy nie jeżeli nie ćwiczysz aikido przynajmniej pare lat bo ja równie dobrze moge powiedzieć że takwondo jest do dupy, ale nie mówie bo szanuje sztukę.powiedz czemu w taekwondo kopie sie STOPAMI? to jest bat taki jak twoje baty na aikido. Ja nie wiem czemu tak, a ty nie wiesz czemu tak. pozostawmy to ,nie komentujmy ( a tak szczeże ten film faktycznie jest do dupy, ci senseie to racze czarne plastry a nie czarne pasy )aikido to nie to!
MoriheiUeshiba100 1 year ago
@MoriheiUeshiba100 Maybe you could translate that...? I am curious about your comments.
aikistok 1 year ago
its not easy to capture a mwashi geri (a kick ) from an opponent as it looks in this video, I left Aikido and joined daido Kodo instead ( Kyokushing & BJJ ) cos its the real thing, Im not against any style but one thing for sure is an opponent is unpredictable & you gotta be a direct hitter
mmakid1980 1 year ago
@mmakid1980 How long did you do aikido?
Karbouchard 1 year ago
Sorry.....with all respect for Aikido....i'm a taekwondo master.....Do u really think that u can avoid a kick with that performance?????
troisibenigni 2 years ago
Dear Taekwondo Master. As it says in the info, what is shown are images made during the maing of the book. It isn't real-time. So the performance a such is different and the application. But avoiding a kick, yes, that is not that difficult.
aikistok 2 years ago
a master huh?? and so very humble
Dovemagician 2 years ago
I'm impressed. Actual kick defense instead of the "catch the foot in midair" theories.
The instructor must have had prior Karate training.
brickshooter 2 years ago
Actually, in aikido, aikijujutsu, & hapkido, we're taught to face every kind of strikes in every conditions (you'll find this mainly in Ki/Shin Shin Toitsu Aikido). The basic conecept are: "Defeat the opponent/s by their own power/s" & "Defeat the opponent/s before being touched."
Zulog1 2 years ago
you could break somone in half using akido! damn thats impressive!
kiwikarateguy 2 years ago
I love Aikido as a technique , but what i hate about it is , i have never seen anything other than a demonstration about it...
psonio3d 2 years ago
I study aikido. just got into a bad fight with a drunk guy. He punced and missed then came at my throat, arms out streched like you see in all those aikido videos people laugh at. I threw him Irimi nage into a wall. then kicked his head clean through it knocking him out. Thankfully Aikido works.
poopedinyourmouth 2 years ago
looks pretty. but have a well-trained karateka throw a few kicks at you and see if these techniques are as realistic as they seem.
thehymner 2 years ago
Thank you for the compliment ;-). A number of the techniques have worked in Jiu Jitsu fighting system matches (these matches are similair to karate kumite but include nage waza and ne waza), and have worked quite well.
aikistok 2 years ago
To Aikistok
I am quite impressed. I am truly happy to see more people like yourself contributing to what I feel is a very unexplored region of Aikido practice. In fact, I always felt that there was a gap in our practice that needed filling and am doing my best to contribute to filling that gap also. Once again, Congratulations and keep up the good work.
SenseiColin54 2 years ago
Thank you for the kind words. It is indeed, a work in progress.
aikistok 2 years ago
For years people have resisted the application of Aikido techniques to Kicking attacks. My feeling has always been, that even if you are more interested in Aikido as an Art or Way, it must still retain it's Martial integrity to remain current, viable and relevant. If you are interested you can check a clip of the video presentation that I am currently working on. Also a work in progress.
SenseiColin54 2 years ago
I could not agree more. I checked out your clip. A lot of stuff looks quite similar though the approach varies. I do not work as much on the foot (or ankle joint) at the moment anyway. But the rest is clearly quite similar. Interesting irimi nage option.
aikistok 2 years ago
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SenseiColin54 2 years ago
Great job exploring possibilities outside the box!
aiki3d 3 years ago
(Continued) An example from the BB Magazine article: A TKDist may first begin with a fake kick as a bait which an aikidoka tries to dodge/catch. The very split second the aikidoka tries to catch/dodge the fake kick, the TKDist in a flash replants his starting leg and using his another leg, launches the real, decisive full-force kick to the unexpecting aikidoka, smashing the aikidoka's head or rib or any unguarded body part, thus finishing the aikidoka off.
kepundengz2003 3 years ago
Thanks for the reaction. I guess it depends on the aikidoka facing the Taekwondoka. The techniques are there and can work. It's up to the practitioner to make them work.
aikistok 3 years ago
kepundengz2003
I study a particular style of Aikido and can say it doesn't exactly work like that. It would make sense if Aikido were like baseball and you just stand in one place waiting to catch the ball and are still standing in the same place after it's caught...and/or ball throw is faked and then you are still in the same place for the real ball to hit you in the head... but in Aikido this stuff usually takes place while in motion.
H4I2I2EE 3 years ago
Hi, thanks for your explanation. It helps my understanding.
kepundengz2003 3 years ago
The taisabaki movements we practice teach us to change positions constantly so by the time you have replanted for another kick he could be behind you. In other words, there is no real way for the attacker to know when/if/where an Aikidoka is gonna move if he even knows who he is fighting to begin with. In all fairness, that doesn't discount the attacker getting lucky. :-)
H4I2I2EE 3 years ago
Nice defense techniques. Thumbs up! In the other hand though, there are some articles in past editions of Black Belt Magazine (US) showing some ways how offensive stylists (eg. karate/TKD) can deceive and defeat defensive stylists' eg. an aikidoka's kick defenses.
kepundengz2003 3 years ago
Thanks Mark! Leuk dat je kwam kijken. Het filmpje geeft een idee van wat we hebben gedaan maar is eigenlijk te vluchtig om echt recht te doen aan het boek. Was wel leuk om te maken.
aikistok 3 years ago
Gefeliciteerd Mark
Leuke, enthousiastmerende film over je boek en aikido. Ik hoop op veel positieve reacties voor je.
Groetjes Mark Bette
judoarbiter 3 years ago