Pro Wrestling was certainly more different back then, made to look like a competitive sport, rather than a soap opera with pantomime looking guys. A todays audiance just wouldent accept this now.
Why can't wrestling be like this? No storylines, no over-the-top gimmicks, no hardcore extreme bullshit, no face-heel dichotomy; just two wrestlers putting up a realistic-looking wrestling match. Maybe then wrestling will begin to be respected again, instead of being looked down upon.
Pro wrestling isn't like this anymore because it wouldn't sell to save its life. I would definitely love to see more shootish-style matches, more athleticism, less promos, and all that. But modern day professional wrestling represents a natural evolution from then to now. I think that professional wrestling gets respect except from the people who don't understand it but they don't matter
@tuvaluman its a work but its still a very scientific wrestling match...its fake but it looks a lot more like a real fight than pro wrestling you see these days
@AmericanCombatAssoc Nobody has ever argued that Masahiko Kimura invented the Ude-hishigi ude-garami with which he beat Helio Gracie.
Not only that, you're mistaken on the technique. It's a Top Wrist Lock or a Keylock. It's more similar to what BJJ guys call an Americana, not a Kimura. However, it's for an entirely different purpose-- here, being utilized to secure the pin fall, rather than being a concession hold.
@AmericanCombatAssoc LOL!!! God I feel the same way. I was watching a old school western ad they had a wrestling match between a german cowboy and an Apache Indian and there was a double wrist lock, head scissors and even a guard pass and a guy in the room couldn't believe it, he just could not wrap his mind around that this movie was filmed before the Gracies "invented" submission wrestling...lol
O_O.... I thought that Riki Choshu invented the Sharpshooter!!!!.... towards the end of the video, there's a leglock ressembling to the scorpion deathlock
I think wrestling was real up to the 60s or at least most of it was a true. Wrestlers today are show men they would not have a clue of what to do in the ring with guys like this lol
What a great look into the past! Thanks for your work here.
Is there any way you could repost the Ali Baba = Red Brannigan clip? There are other folks I know who would love seeing it. I mentioned it and then it was gone.
Wow!! That w3as Fun!! I'm placing it in My Playlist!!
MrFlashBazbo 1 year ago
Pro Wrestling was certainly more different back then, made to look like a competitive sport, rather than a soap opera with pantomime looking guys. A todays audiance just wouldent accept this now.
xxrobfalconxx 1 year ago
Why can't wrestling be like this? No storylines, no over-the-top gimmicks, no hardcore extreme bullshit, no face-heel dichotomy; just two wrestlers putting up a realistic-looking wrestling match. Maybe then wrestling will begin to be respected again, instead of being looked down upon.
Sanguiluna 1 year ago
@Sanguiluna
Pro wrestling isn't like this anymore because it wouldn't sell to save its life. I would definitely love to see more shootish-style matches, more athleticism, less promos, and all that. But modern day professional wrestling represents a natural evolution from then to now. I think that professional wrestling gets respect except from the people who don't understand it but they don't matter
charterbus3002 1 year ago
@Sanguiluna Haha. You pretty much just described UFC
Rayla840 1 year ago
BJJ guys are shitting their pants right now...Yes, it was all there before Helio
alderopop 2 years ago
@alderopop that doesnt look anything like BJJ other than the fact that both use submissions. The entire approach and strategy is totally different.
Jackthestripper 1 year ago
..was this scripted i hope not it was very interesting and entertaining to watch
much much better than wwe
tuvaluman 2 years ago
@tuvaluman its a work but its still a very scientific wrestling match...its fake but it looks a lot more like a real fight than pro wrestling you see these days
TheDotComKid84 1 year ago
now this is what wrestling is all about, great find.
machinelandtv 2 years ago 4
Holy crap! WWE can tie those guys boots. Coolest bout I've seen in a looong time
PeterTheEvilBastard 2 years ago 2
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AmericanCombatAssoc 2 years ago
I'm pretty sure the kimura lock has been a jiu-jutsu or judo move(forget which) LONG before a wrestler started using it.
NoisyWolfXII 2 years ago
@AmericanCombatAssoc Nobody has ever argued that Masahiko Kimura invented the Ude-hishigi ude-garami with which he beat Helio Gracie.
Not only that, you're mistaken on the technique. It's a Top Wrist Lock or a Keylock. It's more similar to what BJJ guys call an Americana, not a Kimura. However, it's for an entirely different purpose-- here, being utilized to secure the pin fall, rather than being a concession hold.
KungFuJoeMarino 1 year ago
@AmericanCombatAssoc LOL!!! God I feel the same way. I was watching a old school western ad they had a wrestling match between a german cowboy and an Apache Indian and there was a double wrist lock, head scissors and even a guard pass and a guy in the room couldn't believe it, he just could not wrap his mind around that this movie was filmed before the Gracies "invented" submission wrestling...lol
irishclubswinger 1 year ago
O_O.... I thought that Riki Choshu invented the Sharpshooter!!!!.... towards the end of the video, there's a leglock ressembling to the scorpion deathlock
retrogamah 2 years ago
That was a version of the Indian Deathlock.
Lfdjake91 2 years ago
Vic vs Jack, an excellent wrestling match
steveislove 2 years ago
This isnt fake IT GOT fake after the late 1950s it was already rigged
gugenheidtaker 2 years ago
Yes you always see sharpshooters and monkey flips in real wrestling. "Good amateur move" as Heenan would say.
Dan2000 2 years ago
pro wrestling has been a staged performance since waaaayyy before the 50s
mattypooz 2 years ago
Even back then it was still a performance. I wonder how the crowd would have reacted then to someone like Mick Foley or Stone Cold
mattypooz 2 years ago 2
Stone cold would have been arrested and Foley would have been put in an mental assylum, lol.
trendsetter74 2 years ago
I think wrestling was real up to the 60s or at least most of it was a true. Wrestlers today are show men they would not have a clue of what to do in the ring with guys like this lol
humanfly02 2 years ago
is wrestling entertainment fake yet
ninjapenguin1995 2 years ago
Not yet
gugenheidtaker 2 years ago
it has always been a work, get off the gas
trendsetter74 2 years ago
i cant believe people are still asking if wrestling is fake, it's a scripted show ffs just stfu about fake stuff and enjoy the action
mattypooz 2 years ago
Now THIS was when wrestling was WRESTLING!
hcjc57 3 years ago
What a great look into the past! Thanks for your work here.
Is there any way you could repost the Ali Baba = Red Brannigan clip? There are other folks I know who would love seeing it. I mentioned it and then it was gone.
Thanks again!
Ruti
ruti317 3 years ago 2
"Gacek swarming on him" is an interesting phrase, out of context.
jsnt 3 years ago
John Cena would kick their asses!
skiminal 3 years ago
That would be the day
Sprawl1978 2 years ago
John Cena would cry like a fuckass bitch
mattypooz 2 years ago 2
Damn right
digthatsuckah 2 years ago
you got that right. todays wrestlers would be scared to step in the ring with these guys
MrROCKNBLUES79 2 years ago
Great atheletes from the dawn of recorded Professional Wrestling
BREMENMURRAY 3 years ago
Amazing footage - thanks for transferring this vintage wrestling!
flexpin123 3 years ago 5