Wong Fei Hung Iron Wire Form Part 1-4 ( 鐵線拳 1-4 段)

[Haledesu]

1:47 dem muscles lol

[narutodx360]

how he learn it

[lolahoopie]

brolic!



[makamlong]

好想學~ 可以教我嗎?

[TH3aznEmperor]

some places boast doing this form over and over will eventually increase your strenght by 9 times. is it true?

[supercnman]

Yes but it depend on the years of practice.

[TH3aznEmperor]

@supercnman i got the time, im only 15 my goal ever since i was a little kid was to be as strong as i can to prevent sickness and become a better person overall

[ukguy]

@TH3aznEmperor rather than do it over and over 9 times probably better to do it much slower and hold the important postures for aminute each, you will definately feel it then.

[shadowazun]

@ukguy he didnt mean do the form 9 times. he meant your strength could increase by 9 times ur original strength.

[osdeus777]

No Instructional Dvd???? This is a Must Have!! Infact Which is better in anyone's opinion, Iron Wire, Tai Chi, Bagua, and Xing yi????

[bobogazungaaa]

@osdeus777 it all depends on what it is you are looking for and wish to acheive through the art

[bobogazungaaa]

@osdeus777 it depends on what u wish to achieve through the art Iron wire is great for diveloping strength tai chi is great for sensitivity, ba qua and xing yi I don't have enough experience in them to speak for but it's all broken down as yin and yang in all arts

[osdeus777]

@bobogazungaaa I appreciate that, I ask because I just wanted to know a Good Internal Martial art, because the External I practice is of Course Hung Ga Tiger Crane. I would think Irone wire would go best with that now that I'm more learned!! 

[bobogazungaaa]

@osdeus777 I practice kwan yin do under sifu dave cial, it's a mix of choy li fut, hung gar, shaolin long+short fist, as well as southern preying mantis and the tai chi I practice is yang style, chen man ching's as well as grandmaster feeman Ong's... internally I would say to do more qi qong internal qi qong like daoist meditation, healing sounds, and sensitivity, as well as external like iron thread, tiger set, and such to gain strength as well as sensitivity

[osdeus777]

@bobogazungaaa Is it any examples on youtube of "kwan yin do"? What is the purpose of meditation? What exactly do you mean by sensitivity? Are you aware of the 5 Tibetans? Thanks!!

[bobogazungaaa]

@osdeus777 no there isn't it's kept pretty close to the students, kinda like an honor thing. there's many purposes of meditation it depends on what u want to acomplish, complete and total awareness is seen as some to be meditation. sensitivity to others movements, qi and energy. they sound familiar but no

[osdeus777]

@bobogazungaaa Hmmm, I appreciate your Wisdom sir!!

[bobogazungaaa]

@osdeus777 not a problem man here to help all

[gabrielc94]

this is proof that the kung-fu ever died in the heart of his warriors

[MoDukYan]

very good!

[patdaochi3140]

HAO HAO. props to all for giving respects.

[binxia]

i have been training kung fu for 4 years. But my sifu still doenst want me to train this form because i am not 21 years old... I will learn with this video then :P

[Greatsocratesghost]

What was the hand-wave thing he did at 4:25?

[mrroboto888]

While stances and techniques our a key to iron thread here is a warning for anybody new to iron thread. The most important attribute of doing iron thread is propper breathing. if you are not propperly breathing in inhales and exhales along with certain exhale technigues with certain movments you could severly damage your body. Before your stances or techniques are right please make sure you are breathing properly. It is a hard thing to learn without a good well knowleged teacher.

[lobermanboaz]

hello

this video is amazing....

i teach kung fu in israel... i practice more than one style but my mine-stream and my favorite is hung gar....

i would like to know.... if master ng bing kuen teach these days?

where does he live/teach?

i would love to come in the future to train under him....

thank you

[supercnman]

Please contact me by E-mail.

[SuperTutorialKing]

nice video

[savageangel12000]

each move itself, is a self defence technique on it's own. Also as I believe that if you have a good foundation you care able to learn certain froms on youre own, a teacher can help correct small but vital things, like proper posture, and hand and foot placement, wich is verry important in a form like this, but none the less I am thankfull to be able to study this video with the hope of learning this form.

thank you.

[savageangel12000]

The difference is the efficence on the breathring, and the concentrated tensing of the muscles, to cultivate the ability to move youre chi( energy).

[savageangel12000]

From what I know of the Iron wire form as a Hung practitioner it is not only for health, it is also for self defence. Many of the movements, in the wire form, are also present in many of the other Hung hand forms.

[sheunghoi]

邊個耍鐵線拳？後面個呀伯呀？

[kelvin198837]

唔係你以為鐵線拳係咩?

[tqken]

Thank you for teaching this , Hung Gar form with the wolrd , thank you SiFu.

[coolmastertobe]

good work

[front131]

I had to stop Hung Kuen training due to injury with the Iron Wire the last form to learn, always annoyed me I didn't learn it. I was always told that one couldn't learn it alone though, does Mr Ng teach it separately from Hung Kuen?

[Yarwer]

i don't think it is true that you have to be taught by someone, the person who knows you best is yourself . . . maybe check out shaolinlibrary . com and find the iron wire book wrote by venerable grandmaster lam sai wing, take care and enjoy your learning.

[ayotechnology5050]

rezpect

[pissdchris]

is the bit where he waves his hands by his head? is it for exersize? or to distract an attacker?

or is it a helth form not for self defence?

[theshadowboy607]

I think the set is about health and body-strengthening..

not self-defence

[supercnman]

If no strength and power,how to fight with others.

[theshadowboy607]

exactly!

(I wasn't tryin to offence!)

[hgearangler]

hi supercnman & theshadowboy607,

in seeing both of your msg, I feel much easy and happy as:

1.boy607 can opbserve tht NgBingKeun is performing an internal practice kung-fu

2.NgBingKuen is top good as he can do proper this intenal kuen

We understand internal training can develope the power multiple the strength of an external strike----so let's cheer that chinese kung-fu can be saved !!!!!!!!

Excellent demo !! thank you NgBingKuen sifu

[supercnman]

Ng Sifu had discovered the short cut to iron wire power training named "佛送蓮花 2 "

[ugeneizdope]

@supercnman wa shortcut~

Sifu is genius

[jalil124]

1:37 the waving of the hands,ive seen that in a gordon liu flick(the martial club)he did this style,what does the waving mean?

[supercnman]

long time ago ,chinese people wore long sleeve clothes.When the long sleeve was held by the enemy.Waving the hand can loose the holding of the sleeve by the enemy.

[safraan]

This is great! I'd love to see more of you. Thanks

[supercnman]

This business will be happened between sunrise and sunset only.

[PeaceTLC]

ok this is a serious question. I'm very open minded. so I tried this with the sound and all. I went straight to the toilet!! does it do that in the beginning or did I do it not right. Hilarious but the truth

[supercnman]

you will go straight to the toilet twice or thrice after meal everyday. The digestive system had been improved. There will be good effect ,if the breathing is making correct.

[PeaceTLC]

you might be right. ok say for instance you are. how long will this toilet business last for. I actually have better sleep. I have been studying hungga for 5 years. My teacher was very traditional. he didn't have names. but the sounds are familiar as he used to do them. he passed on before I could learn more. very slow learning

[supercnman]

This business will follow you forever.Also you will find your voice and reproductive system improving to good conditions.

[easyrider9999]

indeed a good form of internal exercise,my father is 82 yrs old and pratice qigong,he looks younger and a lot of energy...: )

[knt4cne]

Sifu what different Tiet kieusam ironwire.

[supercnman]

This iron wire form is same as Tit Kiu Saam's.

Tit Kiu Saam (Iron Wire Form)> Lam Fuk Sing > Wong Fei Hung >Hon Shui Hoi > Ng Bing Kuen

[OsDeus7]

Lam Sai Wing is this his style or was he taught this??

[supercnman]

Tit Kiu Saam (Iron Wire Form)- Lam Fuk Sing -Wong Fei Hung - Lam Sai Wing - .....

Tit Kiu Saam (Iron Wire Form)- Lam Fuk Sing -Wong Fei Hung - Hon Shui Hoi - Ng Bing Kuen who is teaching iron wire form in hong kong now.

[OsDeus7]

Okay I appreciate that so this isn't you?

[supercnman]

Mr Ng is my uncle.He taught me the Iron wire Form .After practicing the iron wire form,the muscles are harder then before and the digestive,respiration and reproductive system are improving.

[OsDeus7]

How long did it take you to learn because I will be studying this soon??

[supercnman]

I had learnt this form about 10 months.A HK student learning the 4th lesson of this form now told that the digestive and reproductive system had been improved. It takes about 5-6 lessons to complete the whole form.

[OsDeus7]

hmm Okay My Friend I most appreciate you answering my questions!!! I Got some good material that will teach me much on this Form!!!!

[1acroyear1]

...your reproductive system...?

[Realmasterorder]

Respect !

[theshadowboy607]

I searched his name in yahoo and found out he's a police?

[supercnman]

Mr Ng is 59 going on 60 . He is not policeman.

[supercnman]

Invincible Breathing of Iron Wire Form :

Inhale & Exhale

1/ Modify speed of movement

2/ Improve heartbeat

3/ Stronger Organs

4/ Create good health & long life

[illyong]

this is one of the hardest things to learn. respect. how old is he?

[myfacefirst]

How long did it take for you personally to see results from these exercises, and what were they?

[supercnman]

At least 10 years exercise of Iron wire Form ,your internal respiration ,digestive and reproductive system will be upgraded to stronger. The external muscles will become iron .If you are clever ,you can learn the form at 7-8 days.

[myfacefirst]

10 years to see results?! So if i incorperated this into my training now for something in... lets say six months, it wouldn't make much of a difference within that small span of time?

[hoisamscomment]

with respect - who was the teacher of master ng ?

[supercnman]

Master Hon shui Kai who learnt the iron wire form form Wong Fei Hung was the teacher of Ng .

[hoisamscomment]

thank you for this respons - wong fei hungs hung kar is magnificent - iron wire makes you real strong !

[zigsauer]

interesting but does the hand shake for or do

[hoisamscomment]

nice and solid footwork - good focus - handmovements clear and firm - A+++++

[onedorki3boi]

hmm... I only have one criticism/question. The sounds that he's making, does it sound like it is done correctly? I'm not trying to disrespect him, I'm just asking. I was told that the sounds are used to work the chi flow in specific parts of the body according to the sound. If not done correctly, it would either do nothing practicing the form or cause harm. I hear some people sound slightly different from others but as long as it works then it should be fine right?

[supercnman]

Mr Ng got 35 years experience of iron wire form.The sound must be correct so as to make the best effect .

鐵線拳利用了人類的各種身體自然情態表現，包含喜、怒、哭、哈，­快樂、難過，打嗝、咳嗽，反胃、憋氣等方式，有效的調控了人體非­自主神經所主導的功能，將人體的生理功能大幅度的產生變化，依此­快速的流動氣血，達到活血通絡的目的。

[supercnman]

This iron Wire Form was the state-of-art in Hung

Kar fist.If you practised incorrectly ,you would

feel heart burn and head ache .You must stop practising at once.

[onedorki3boi]

yes I know, I do hung gar =]

[hgearangler]

Yes, I believe this symptoms apply to all the rest 2 sets too !!!!

[hgearangler]

認同~~認同~~

多謝傳承

[evildrgo]

Sounds right to me. At some stage, you'll tailor the sounds to your body. Most of the variations you'll hear is from tonal differences. I am impressed with this video. Most Iron wire I've seen is done for show and missing the real energy flow. I think this is the only demo I've seen where it's the real deal....

[hgearangler]

yes evildrgp,

we are all lucky guys having the chance to view a real good internal TitSinKuen~~

thx sifu NgBingKuen, respect !!

[FuManAh]

I'm just surprised that there are some clips available on Tid Sin Kuen. I was always under the impression that it's a highly guarded set? I just hope there aren't some dishonourable people out there who'll learn the moves and then teach it at their McKwoon...the wrong way :(

[FuManAh]

Wow! He's in great shape!

[supercnman]

Mr Ng is my father's younger cousin and he is my teacher of Iron Wire Form.

[hoisamscomment]

you are lucky with such fine master

[supercnman]

Mr Ng is 59 going on 60 .

[satoh59]

Way to go, Man ! how old are you now ???